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CBS - Iraq, The Uncounted: How Many Are Left Off The Pentagonís Casualty Count?

How many injured and ill soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines are left off the Pentagon's casualty count?
Would you believe 15,000? 60 Minutes asked the Department of Defense to grant us an interview. They declined. Instead, they sent a letter, which contains a figure not included in published casualty reports: "More than 15,000 troops with so-called 'non-battle' injuries and diseases have been evacuated from Iraq."

Many of those evacuated are brought to Landstuhl in Germany. Most cases are not life-threatening. In fact, some are not serious at all. But only 20 percent return to their units in Iraq. Among the 80 percent who don't return are GIs who suffered crushing bone fractures; scores of spinal injuries; heart problems by the hundreds; and a slew of psychiatric cases. None of these are included in the casualty count, leaving the true human cost of the war something of a mystery.

"It's difficult to estimate what the total number is," says John Pike, director of a research group called GlobalSecurity.org.

As a military analyst, Pike has spoken out against both Republican and Democratic administrations. He's weighed all the available casualty data and has made an informed estimate that goes well beyond what the Pentagon has released.

"You have to say that the total number of casualties due to wounds, injury, disease would have to be somewhere in the ballpark of over 20, maybe 30,000," says Pike.

His calculation, striking as it is, is based on the military's own definition of casualty - anyone "lost to the organization," in this case, for medical reasons. And Pike believes it's no accident that the military reports a number far lower than his estimate.

"The Pentagon, I think, is afraid that they're going to lose public support for this war, the way they lost public support for Vietnam back in the 1960s," says Pike. "And minimizing the apparent cost of the war, I think, is one way that they're hoping to sustain public support here at home."

60 Minutes asked the assistant secretary of Defense for Health Affairs about that claim - that casualties are being underreported, for political reasons. And we got a flat denial. In a letter, he told us, "We in the Department of Defense categorically reject the notion that we are underreporting casualties from Operation Iraqi Freedom."

He pointed out that he'd already provided us with some figures - the 15,000 evacuations of non-combat injured and ill. Still, Pike says the military is trying to minimize the casualty count. It's an effort Pike believes is misguided, because he says that even if Americans understood the full human cost of the war, public support would not weaken.

"I think that all of the public opinion polling that we're seeing suggests that the public is prepared to sustain far higher casualties than politicians give them credit for," says Pike. "I think that it's basically that the politicians and the Pentagon, don't have confidence in the American people." The Department of Defense did not include non-battle injuries in its casualty reports in other recent wars, either. But that's of little comfort to Joel Gomez, who was riding in the back of a Bradley fighting vehicle, looking for insurgents, when disaster struck.

"Unfortunately, the Bradley was too heavy for the road, a dirt road, and the ground gave way. And we wound up flipping down the mountain. And it landed upside-down in the Tigris River," says Gomez.

His two buddies were killed. Gomez made it out, but he's now paralyzed. "[It's] a horrific change. I can't move my legs. I can't move my arms," says Gomez. "It just totally changes your life in a manner that you could never imagine."

Even though Gomez tumbled into the Tigris while looking for insurgents, he is, by the Pentagon's definition, "non-combat injured."

"They blow it off and say it's just an accident," say Gomez. "I'm sure that somebody getting shot in the back would just be an accident. But that's how they see it."

The Department of Defense says the injuries and illnesses suffered by Gomez and thousands of other troops should not be taken out of context. In their letter to 60 Minutes, they said: "In order to understand rates of injuries and diseases, it is necessary to understand what the normal or usual rates of injuries and diseases might be in other situations."

What does this mean? That there are always going to be a certain number of accidents and injuries, war or no war - though they offer no numbers for comparison.

"Soldiers and Marines are gonna get sick. They're gonna get into accidents. But there's gonna be more disease, more accidents, more psychiatric stress in Iraq than if they were back here," says Pike, who adds that hundreds of troops in Iraq have been so paralyzed by stress that they've had to be medically evacuated - though you won't see them reported in the casualty count. Traditionally, that count has not included combat stress. It was long thought, in the military's macho culture, that psychological trauma is best suffered in silence.

Graham Alstrom has been back from Iraq for over a year, but he's still haunted by what he saw - and what he did to other people. "Some of them I shot. Some of them I blew up with grenades. Some of them were stabbed," says Alstrom.

The memories of killing invaded his mind. Soon after he returned home, Alstrom's life began to unravel.

"The drinking started immediately. I stopped sleeping. And I started getting very angry. I didn't want to talk to my family anymore. I didn't want them to see me. I didn't want to see them. I felt like they were ashamed of me," says Alstrom. "I was partly ashamed of some of the things I had done. ... I couldn't separate the killing people and killing them in combat."

He says he's frustrated that the military says his illness is not combat-related. "I know what I was like before I went to combat. I had a life beyond the Army," says Alstrom. "I talked to my family. I'd share feelings and emotions with people I cared about. I lived a very regular life."

Alstrom won't get a Purple Heart for his service in Iraq. It was only his mind that was wounded in battle. "It doesn't matter what the paperwork says. We know what happened over there. We know what we did over there," says Alstrom. "And no piece of paperwork saying that I'm not a casualty could ever take that away. For any of us."

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This is the saddest story... 22.Nov.2004 22:26


what else can you say...it's soooooo sad...it's heartbreaking to consider the permanent destruction of these peoples lives, the lives of their families....because of this fucking dickhead (no offense to dicks)....I try not to hate them...but it's so hard not to...because they betray us with lies, with deceit, they offend our sense of truth, of justice, of honesty...they are hypocrites espousing the 10 commandments and breaking almost or all of them....assholes!!

Support our troops! Send some more 23.Nov.2004 12:51


Untill they start coming back by the dozens, no one will care, so if takes "american" deaths to wake people up, then support our troops and send some more. McCain is ready.

In fact, bring on the draft, that should test everybody's patriotism. Unless you think we're really going to "win". Against who? the dozen or so guys in caves, sponsored by the cia, calling themselves al-qae-DUH? Or is it the baathist extremists? Maybe it's the insurgents/freedom fighters? or perhaps zarqawi's robin hood squad?, the kurds? Who knows and WHO CARES, as long as their is no threat from Iraq, we'll be going to Iran, to win the war on "errors" in afghanistan.

Support our troops? Sure, send some more. Who's got the made in china magnets?

CBS news complicit 23.Nov.2004 13:33

by repeating the lies

US soldiers are not over in Iraq for constitutional reasons. The pretense of protecting America has been removed. It is curious that the soldiers (despite enormous attempts by the military establishment to control information)are finding out that their mission is a fraud. Remember they are being force fed a daily diet of lies and disinformation. The official "news" being fed to them exclusively is the FOX propaganda channel. Bottom line is they are Americans who were lied to and they are paying quite a price for their ignorance. It makes me angry at the liars and the power they have over our nation.