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THINK KERRY IS NOT INVOLVED IN THIS FIGHT? THINK AGAIN.

Most people are assuming that John Kerry opted for the second of these while John Edwards, his runningmate, opted for the first, and since Kerry was the big dog, he won out. But people who think this are thinking in Bush terms, all or nothing, either you are for the war or against it, that either Senator Kerry was for recounting the votes or he was against it.
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When Senator John Kerry (D-MA) talked about how his policy would be different in Iraq , he kept saying, in effect, 'It's the how, stupid.' He said repeatedly he would fight a "smarter" war.

Flash forward to today. Following the election, there was a problem apparent. The exit polling didn't match the ballot count, and many reasons for that began to become apparent.

John Kerry was faced with three options. One, fight on publicly rather than conceding and put the nation into a media frenzied limbo. Two, concede and go on with his life, turning his back on his promise to his supporters to ensure that "every vote will be counted."

Most people are assuming that John Kerry opted for the second of these while John Edwards, his runningmate, opted for the first, and since Kerry was the big dog, he won out. But people who think this are thinking in Bush terms, all or nothing, either you are for the war or against it, that either Senator Kerry was for recounting the votes or he was against it.

The reality is, John Kerry has chosen a third, much smarter course - just as he said he would all along.

John Kerry realized that to launch a public campaign calling the vote into question would be disastrous. In fact, he likely realized he would we walking right into a Bush-set booby trap.

In particular, during our election coverage we talked about the pending battle of Fallujah, about the timing of it being an election ploy, about how it was following in the constant Bush pattern of creating a media event to sway the election, as he did last time by making the run up to the Iraq invasion come to a head exactly on election week.

Well, the battle in Fallujah began hitting the media hard in the week before the election, right on cue. Of course it was billed as the solution, the battle that - if you just keep Bush in office - will wipe out those insurgents and solve the problems over there. This was yet another obvious use of our nation's troops by President Bush as if they were campaign volunteers rather than non-partisan volunteers to defend our nation.

But Fallujah, it turns out, seems to be even more than that. Fallujah, in effect, was the get away car for an election heist.

Following the fiasco in Florida in 2000, Gore was able to battle on for 30 days to try and get a fair accounting. All the while, the Bush camp claimed he should just stop and give up because his delaying of what they were saying was the inevitable end was threatening the nation's security and stability. They said the stock market was suffering, the nation was unstable, and so Gore should just give up and accept the result as is.

This time, John Kerry had made clear he was prepared to fight 100 times as hard and long as Gore did if necessary. In fact, he had solicited fund just for that eventuality so he could battle all over the nation if necessary to ensure that every vote was properly counted.

Enter Fallujah. As we know - and saw on election night, as Bush's people began calling Networks and demanding they call Ohio for their camp - the Bush team's strategy was to try and force all questions to be closed ASAP. Last time, they weren't prepared for that part. This time, they were.

Picture if John Kerry had chosen to call the election into question. Immediately, the Bush camp would talk about how 50,000 of our troops are just about to launch the biggest military operation since the invasion of Baghdad . And, just a couple of days after the election, it was launched.

You can imagine the arguments from the Bushies: "How could Senator Kerry undermine our security while our troops are in the midst of battle." Fallujah was to be the pressure point that would, if not stop Kerry from uncovering all the dirt and getting a fair election count, would at least tarnish his name with much of the nation and, as importantly, create something for the right-wing dominated media to hammer away at him on, making it seem as if he is only caring about himself and not the nation.

It was quite a well-crafted plan. Completely amoral, but smart.

Unfortunately for them, John Kerry was smarter.

As Keith Olbermann of MSNBC, who has been about the only mainstream journalist to actually follow up on the many serious problems with regard to the integrity of the election, has pointed out, a concession speech, in effect, means nothing. It is not legally binding.

So, if you were thinking like a Bush goon, you would expect that either Kerry would stand up to the mischief that went on, not conceding in the meantime, and so your booby trap would work perfectly, or that he would just give up and let it go, as wimpy Democrats are prone to do.

But John Kerry chose a smarter course. Ask yourself the question, what if John Kerry were to do both, concede publicly but, at the same time, look into every instance of mischief, and see if in fact the election was fair or fixed.

This would be a no lose situation for him. The booby trap set up for him would become irrelevant, as he would have done the right thing for the nation, not putting it into turmoil while its troops are in battle.

But at the same time, he is still just as free to look into any voting irregularities as he would have been had he not conceded. Even better, he could do it without the press going insane and the nation being kept on tension-creating edge. All of the lawyers he could have sent to look into things still could be sent to look into things, and if the election is truly called into question, he could then, with ample justification so as to make it legitimate, come out publicly and retract his concession. It is the prosecutor, also one of Kerry's previous jobs, who knows well enough to thoroughly prepare and investigate his case be leveling charges. You may have a real hunch that someone is responsible for a murder, but until you believe you can win that case in court, you do not make the allegation.

This is called fighting smart. And the Bushies, in the same way they failed to plan for the subtleties of doing battle in Iraq , haven't even caught on yet that this is what is occurring, that they are, in fact, being outflanked and attacked after being tricked into looking the other way.

And just in case you don't quite believe John Kerry is on the case, and instead think he just turned out to be a wimp who didn't live up to his word, take a look at this letter from his brother, released privately to his supporters:

CAM KERRY'S LETTER

I am grateful to the many people who have contacted me to express their deep concern about questions of miscounting, fraud, vote suppression, and other problems on election day, especially in Florida and Ohio . Their concern reflects how much people care about the outcome of this election. I want to you to know we are not ignoring it. Election protection lawyers are still on the job in Ohio and Florida and in DC making sure all the votes are counted accurately. I have been conferring with lawyers involved and have made them aware of the information and concerns people have given me. Even if the facts don't provide a basis to change the outcome, the information will inform the continuing effort to protect the integrity of our elections. If you have specific factual information about voting problems that could be helpful to the lawyers doing their job, please send it to (e-mail removed for the story) rather than to me. The election protection effort has been important to me personally, and I am proud of the 17,
000 lawyers around the country who helped. It's obvious that we have a way to go still, but their efforts helped make a difference. Their work goes on. Thank you, Cam Kerry

Notice that he chose to have his brother, who is not well-known to the public, sign the letter. As far as the public is concerned, John Kerry has conceded at that is that.

But now you know that that is not truly the case.

Make no mistake, he will never publicly call the election into question unless enough fraud turns out to truly challenge the end result. And so, in effect, he is not at this point contesting the election. But in reality, he is like the DA who says, "At this time we are not charging President Bush with anything." Evidence first. It is the best strategy for him personally, the best strategy politically, and the best strategy for the nation.

And now stepping in to help is the man who was supposed to be the spoiler, Ralph Nader. As the Washington Post reports (see article: Losing by 335,000 in N.H., Nader Demands a Recount), Nader is using New Hampshire as a staging ground to call the Diebold machine-recorded electronic votes into question.

Why is he doing it in New Hampshire , which Kerry won? Does this mean he is going after Kerry?

Not at all. It is tactically brilliant. In New Hampshire , any candidate can call for a recount as long as he offers to pay for it. And that cost in this small state is only $2,000 dollars. So Nader is choosing to challenge the results there, but only to make the case that, if there turns out to be a problem with the machines there, the votes must be challenged everywhere.

As the WashPost reports, "We have received reports of irregularities in the vote reported on the AccuVote Diebold Machines in comparison to exit polls and trends in voting in New Hampshire," Nader wrote Secretary of State William M. Gardner. "These irregularities favor President George W. Bush by 5% to 15% over what was expected."

So you see clearly he is charging that the machines skewed in favor of President Bush. New Hampshire was just the easiest, smartest, and cheapest place to get a first crack at making the case, and so opening a Pandora's Box that will spread out across the nation.

So enjoy the non-Moderate Independent media's coverage of Fallujah and ignoring of the recount. But rest assured that people are on the case, and that Kerry is taking the fight to them - in such a smart matter they don't even know what's hitting them. And remember, Watergate didn't break the week after the election. No one knew anything was even fishy, but in the end, the devil go his due.

And on another note, the non-M/I media should be given some credit. As one Washington Post reporter told me, you can bet they are looking into all of this. And, as you see with the above Washington Post story, when they get something concrete they are going to print.

But it is the new media - the blogs - that are powering this one as much as the mainstream media.

So rest assured, and feel free to help out in anyway you can. We are the eyes, ears, and analysts of our nation. Support Olbermann at MSNBC, and rest assured, Kerry is on the case.

And lest you not realize what exactly is going on, this today from Olbermann: "With news this morning that the computerized balloting in North Carolina is so thoroughly messed up that all state-wide voting may be thrown out and a second election day scheduled, the story continues."

And, even better, this from a first-hand witness' e-mail being circulated among Kerry supporters:

Subject: Basic report from Columbus

I worked for 3 days, including Election Day, on the statewide voter protection hotline run by the Ohio Democratic Party in Columbus, Ohio. I am writing this because the media is inexplicably whitewashing what happened in Ohio, and Kerry's concession was likewise inexplicable.

Hundreds of thousands of people were disenfranchised in Ohio. People waited on line for as long as 10 hours. It appears to have only happened in Democratic-leaning precincts, principally (a) precincts where many African Americans lived, and (b) precincts near colleges.

I spoke to a young man who got on line at 11:30 am and voted at 7 pm. When he left at 7 pm, the line was about 150 voters longer than when he'd arrived, which meant those people were going to wait even longer. In fact they waited for as much as 10 hours, and their voting was concluded at about 3 am. The reason this occurred was that they had 1 voting station per 1000 voters, while the adjacent precinct had 1 voting station per 184. Both precincts were within the same county, and managed by the same county board of elections. The difference between them is that the privileged polling place was in a rural, solidly republican, area, while the one with long lines was in the college town of Gambier , OH. Lines of 4 and 5 hours were the order of the day in many African- American neighborhoods.

Touch screen voting machines in Youngstown OH were registering "George W. Bush" when people pressed "John F. Kerry" ALL DAY LONG. This was reported immediately after the polls opened, and reported over and over again throughout the day, and yet the bogus machines were inexplicably kept in use THROUGHOUT THE DAY.

Countless other frauds occurred, such as postcards advising people of incorrect polling places, registered Democrats not receiving absentee ballots, duly registered young voters being forced to file provisional ballots even though their names and signatures appeared in the voting rolls, longtime active voting registered voters being told they weren't registered, bad faith challenges by Republican "challengers" in Democratic precincts, and on and on and on.

I was very proud of the way so many Ohioans fought so valiantly for their right to vote, and would not be turned away. Many, however, could not spend the entire day and were afraid of losing their jobs, due to the severe economic depression hitting Ohio .

I do not understand why Kerry conceded and did not fight to ensure that all Ohioans would have a chance to vote, and for their vote to be counted.

Betsy R. Vasquez

Betsy covers media and politics for The Moderate Independent
possesion 9/10th of the law 16.Nov.2004 12:55

note

1. bush claims to have won

2. bushy owned media claims bush won

3. courts occupied by bushies

4. congress occupied by bushies.

5. recess apointments lining up.

6. kerry claimed bush have won

time will tell if the worm will turn

reply 16.Nov.2004 13:07

Jason

What a heaping pile of self serving BULLSHIT!

THis is just more Democratic Propaganda to keep the suckers, uhh, I mean liberals, in party ranks for 2008. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me dozens and dozens of times and I am in total denial.

Kerry quit, walked out, betrayed all the people who voted for him, who held their nose and voted because they know how awful Bush is. Kerry betrayed them all. He had his chance to show some courage and stand up to Republican oppression. He showed his colors and he is a coward.

It is the courageous individuals working tirelessly to bring to truth to light that are the real leaders. Cobb, Nader and Badnarik are also deserving of praise for taking action.

Kerry? He is deserving of scorn and ridicule.

nice creative rationalization 16.Nov.2004 13:13

green

Talk about ipso facto wishful dreaming.

Kerry lovers, rot in hell. You are just the manipulated mirror image of fooled Bush lovers. You guys would sell out everyone, and be happy about it, because YOU ARE SO DESPERATE TO FOLLOW LIKE SHEEP TO THE SLAUGHTER.

And you know this, so you scuplt creative rationalizations as to "why you have not been fooled" to hide from yourself that you were fooled from day one--as you are pushed toward the slaughterhouse chirping about how much you like Kerry, etc., etc.

here's who you kerry fools voted for 16.Nov.2004 13:20

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"Smarter" war 16.Nov.2004 14:08

George Bender

There is no smart way to invade another country, occupy it, and kill people, most of them noncombatants, for their oil. It is grossly immoral and stupid. Kerry voted for it and still supports it. During the debates he said he was going to "win" the war, as if that were possible. Kerry is a worthless asshole, and his followers are morally blind.


Who? 16.Nov.2004 14:09

nomad

Kerry? John Kerry?

Who's John Kerry? Why should I know?

what a load of crap 16.Nov.2004 14:35

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Gee, the John Kerry in this author's mind is sure a lot more shrewd politician than the one who actually gave away the election. Maybe we should have voted for him instead of that other one.

.......NOT! 16.Nov.2004 14:42

noid

sooooo , if Kerry is quietly working behind the scenes to uncover the crime involved in this dog and pony show , why didn't he fork over a tiny chunk of the FITTY MILL. he is sitting on to help those who had the courage to demand a recount ?

What Plan? 16.Nov.2004 16:14

Craigoire

Cam Kerry's letter makes it clear that if Kerry is doing anything, he is not pursuing a sensible course. While Nader, and the Green and Libertarian parties go straight to the heart of the matter, raise the money and engage in the necessary process of demanding accountability in questionable States, Kerry's brother is simply putting out an invitation for anecdotes. Even if he got enough single screwed voters with sufficient evidence to put together a class action suit, chances are it would drag on for years without resolution.

And yes, as far as I can see, Kerry is sitting on the biggest wad of funds and contributing jack shit to the effort.

If anyone knows differently and can explain exactly what Kerry is doing, "bring it on."

Yeah Right. 16.Nov.2004 17:11

Me

At this point, I think John Kerry is just another fucking Israel first Skull and Bonesman and he just took the 50 million dollars that he had left over from the campaign for recounting and laughed all the way to the bank.

Face it folks, we've been had bigger than anyone has ever been had before.

Wouldn't this be nice... 16.Nov.2004 17:46

Colby

...if it were true.

At this point, though, I'm inclined to believe that Kerry is just a stereotypical lazy incumbent, who isn't gonna lift a finger to help himself if he can get someone else to do it for him. 'Cause getting directly involved would hurt his precious career. To which I say, when you're nearly retirement age, who gives a rat's butt about your career? He's so entrenched his seat in the Senate probably has his butt grooves in it. But noooooo, we had to have a "safe, electable" nominee, so Kerry it was, and now look what happened!

Y'all should have voted for Dennis while you had the chance.

Dumbasses.

There's no such thing as "Electable" until you get elected!

the Kerry knot 16.Nov.2004 18:18

jlii

It appears some are still campaigning against John Kerry. Is this a stronger belief in a recount then seems remotely likely? Time to cut the cord.

jlii 16.Nov.2004 18:39

George Bender

Radical revenge.

Also, the campaigns are now permanent -- they never end.


Eh.... 16.Nov.2004 19:17

Colby

I didn't campaign for or against Kerry...but darnit, how did this go from the "most important election ever" to "oh, well, we lost, let's go home and cry?"

Kerry just doesn't seem to care. I hope there's more to the story, that he's cooking something up behind the scenes, but I don't think that's gonna happen.

KUCINICH IN 08!

the good thing about this bizarre fantasy... 16.Nov.2004 22:59

ne1

...is that the passage of a few weeks will debunk it in very short order. Still, it never ceases to amaze me the lengths to which some liberals will go in their wishful thinking. Astonishing. Please explain again how announcing the "ultimate flip-flop" of "unconceding" the election will confer more "credibility" on Kerry in the rightwing media than standing and fighting from the beginning?

The truth will soon be perfectly obvious: that no matter what the evidence, Kerry had no intention of dragging his ass in front of the same Supreme Court that shot down Gore, just to have that charade repeated again. He knows very well that he CAN'T win in the Courts, or the Republican-controlled Congress, especially since it requires challenging such a large number of votes this time around. Face it: the Republicans have had four years of unhindered, nonstop diligent work to perfect their election rigging this time around. Kerry's only hope to challenge them would have been to mobilize and rally his supporters from the very beginning. He STILL wouldn't be able to win in the Republican-dominated courts, but he COULD have sparked a call-to-arms among both grassroots voters and Democratic legislators that would continue to give the Republicans trouble far into the future. This is what someone who actually plans to fight does: he fights -- not demobilizing and demoralizing his supporters with a premature concession.

This is typical of the sort of amusement park "hall-of-mirrors" distorted political fantasies that too many people in this country suffer from. Not having ever participated in a real grassroots political or social movement in their lives, they think that progressive political victories can be gained by clever PR ruses by tricky or "inspired" leaders. This is truly warped thinking. The only thing deceptive PR tactics work for is tricking people into giving away the store to big corporate interests. Progressive political gains, like securing fair elections, are only achieved by an honest-to-goodness, in-the-trenches fight backed up by masses of ordinary people. Do you think Martin Luther King could have somehow dazzled and fooled the Jim Crow South into letting black folk sneak into the voting booths? No amount of clever strategems by crafty political figureheads is ever a replacement for mobilizing millions of real people to care about their rights and fight for them. And Kerry has simply not chosen that route. He has, in fact, DEMOBILIZED people, at exactly the crucial moment, right when everyone's attention was on the elections. And, all fantasies aside, that crucial moment will not be conjured up again.

Let the deprogramming begin 17.Nov.2004 03:05

ehnyah

Nice theory...

Today we live in a world where FACTS are more important then theory though.

Take 9/11 for example.

It is a fact, that FEMA cannot explain how WTC7 "melted", at least not conclusively. Can you? Can anyone? I mean, we are talking FEMA here.

Looks like a controlled demolition to me. Take a look for yourself, you've probably seen it. But don't take my word for it, Larry Silverstein says so himself, "we gave the order to pull the building"...does that mean he used his laser eye rays to melt it, or does that mean, what everyone knows it means...it's demolition lingo when you get ready to demolish a building. Ooops.

See, that's a fact.

Your ananlysis, is not very perceptive, and void of some facts.

1)The democratic party did everything in their power to try and stop Nader(he's not working for democrats), he's working for public awareness and change. The same with Cobb and Badnarik.

2)Badnarik/Cobb were both arrested outside of the presidential debates trying to serve an order to show cause to the CPD. Mr. Kerry, the "smart" guy, made sure to say nothing when they were arrested. How's that for a champion of democracy.

Here's an idea that would have gotten kerry elected. "oh, mr. bush, I feel we should debate all candidates, especially if they are viable candidates like nader, cobb, badnarik. If you do not feel this way, I will boycott the debates and debate them".

This would of made bush illegitimate. As such, Kerry would draw attention. How can you report a presedential campaign runoff...if your only talking about one guy...bush. We need to make what is obvious to us, obvious to everybody. By exposing the corruption, you expose the voting fraud.

Kerry is a lawyer right? But obviously he knows little of the constitution and has not shown he wants to defend it.

3)Do you remember the year 2000, I hope so, because this will slap you in the face. When the black caucus challenged the election...not ONE, read again, NOT ONE DEMOCRAT STOOD UP TO SUPPORT THEM.

4)Once again, the democrats send out their brainwashed minions for damage control and the silly message of, hope is on the way..."we can change a corrupt system from within, trust us".

There is so much more, but unfortunately, you have been programmed to accept the duopoly. I am not and I will deprogram you. I'm done with democrats. Not out of spite, but because they are weak and kerrycrat thinking means putting on rosey colored glasses and only seeing what the democrats want you to see. Try thinking for yourself.

Will I keep monitoring the election, ON MY OWN, support those that want accountability and ultimately that may make kerry president? Yes. But that's only because democrats are weak and that gives us a chance to push an alternate third party in 2006. We see how democrats work, obviously your still in a haze and depressed...don't like people talking bad about someone you believed in. Now you try to analyze and make sense of something...THAT IS OBVIOUS TO A FREE THINKING PERSON.

Kerry's smart, we're smarter, because we want peace and liberty...not more of the same. Not more of the patriot act, not more of the terror war, wake up kerrycrat and force your party to fight for equality...regardless if that means losing some votes. Sometimes things have to get worse, before they can get better.

Kerrycrats want to use bandaids, secrecy, and "smart" tactics. That's great. We want to clean our own house, that starts with exposing the election fraud, getting kerry elected, and working hard to get him out afterwards.

Even your own hillary clinton, dissed kerry for his "knowing what you know now". Sure, sure, we've heard the explanation of that. Guess it didn't work. So you see, by not just telling like it is, by not doing something to make a statement, like he did when he was younger...he has just convinced himself and his supporters that fighting "smart" is better then telling the truth.

We don't want secret societies, back room deals, and explanations from the surrogates. We want accountability, open gov't., and fair representation. Are democrats scared of political backlash...if so, then I need someone who is not afraid to be arrested, defending the constitution.

We WILL keep making noise about the election. We'll make your theory come true...by using facts. Instead of defending Kerry, shouldn't you be writing letters to the editor, shouldn't you be supporting blackboxvoting.org, shouldn't you be analyzing vote counts in counties across the country...because that is what we need.

Not some silly attempt at legitimizing the farce we call a DUH-MOCK-RACY. If what you say is true, then so be it. But this doesn't change anything about how democrats(the elite) work. I feel bad for supporters, because they read too much daily kos and think..."hope is on the way". Here's some fingerpaints you can use for that slogan.

You should be helping to deprogram Americans, not brainwashing them. Where do your loyalties lie...democrats or americans? Regardless if most people don't know...they will never know if you keep spreading disinformation.

Take your damage control, psych-ops, distraction, or excuse tactics over to the Kos blog. They will cheer you on, while we try to get some accountability and work for real change. This means exposing or deprogramming people like you.

Follow the path to enlightenment and truth, escape the chains that you do not recognize your in. Do not fear the unknown...you don't know what's there...there is nothing to fear, but fear itself.

" CONSPIRACY " 17.Nov.2004 15:27

noid

thanx to ehnyah for bringing awareness about the distruction of WTC 7 to this discussion.
this issue is a perfect example of the ability of the power elite to control and misdirect the attention of the masses for their particular purposes.
the use of the word CONSPIRACY has condemed anyone who tries to expose hidden corruption and criminality to the lable of whacko. this is the result of a very successful takeover of the media by those same powerful forces. they have apparently convinced the sheeple that the only conspiracies that exist are the ones that they approve for distribution , ie; Osama and crew.
CONSPIRACY is a very legitamate word , we need look no further than the
" elections " of 2000 & 2004 for proof of that.

The most plausible explanation of this Election fiasco 21.Nov.2004 01:09

Gerry Peters gerry_peters@bellsouth.net

Your explanation is the first one that actually makes sense. I hope you're right. This Election Fraud is the biggest scandal in US history. Any fair minded person who really looks at the Electronic Voting process will see the potential for massive fraud is there. Seeing the connection of the Voting Machine companies to the Repubs connects the dots further.

The strange silence of the Mainstream Media, John Kerry, the DNC, Moveon.org, Al Frankin, Michael Moore, local newspapers, etc could very well mean what you say. Everyone is gathering the facts for a huge onslaught like no one we've seen. This thing may be about to blow like a festering volcano. Hang on to your seats, let's see what happens.

Thanks for the excellent article!

DEMOCRATS AND LIBERALS ARE THE ENEMY ALSO 21.Nov.2004 22:23

antifa

Hey, you are wasting your time with the Liberals and Democrats.

They are just as criminal and as murderous as the Right Wingers.

All this focus on Liberal vs. Conservative or Demcorat vs. Republican is a smokescreen issue.

They all serve the Evil American Empire.

Fight them all.