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Green Party Campaign Raises $150,000 in 4 days, shifts gears to Phase II of Ohio Recount campaign.
There will be a recount of the presidential vote in Ohio.

On Thursday, David Cobb, the Green Party's 2004 presidential candidate, announced his intention to seek a recount of the vote in Ohio. Since the required fee for a statewide recount is $113,600, the only question was whether that money could be raised in time to meet the filing deadline. That question has been answered.

"Thanks to the thousands of people who have contributed to this effort, we can say with certainty that there will be a recount in Ohio," said Blair Bobier, Media Director for the Cobb-LaMarche campaign.

"The grassroots support for the recount has been astounding. The donations have come in fast and furiously, with the vast majority in the $10-$50 range, allowing us to meet our goal for the first phase of the recount effort in only four days," said Bobier.

Bobier said the campaign is still raising money for the next phase of the recount effort which will be recruiting, training and mobilizing volunteers to monitor the actual recount.

The Ohio presidential election was marred by numerous press and independent reports of mis-marked and discarded ballots, problems with electronic voting machines and the targeted disenfranchisement of African American voters. A number of citizens' groups and voting rights organizations are holding the second of two hearings today in Columbus, Ohio, to take testimony from voters, poll watchers and election experts about problems with the Ohio vote. The hearing, from 6-9 p.m., will be held at the Courthouse, meeting room A, 373 S. High St., in Columbus. The Cobb-LaMarche campaign will be represented at the hearing by campaign manager Lynne Serpe.

A demand for a recount in Ohio can only be filed by a presidential candidate who was either a certified write-in candidate or on the ballot in that state. Both Green Party candidate David Cobb and Libertarian candidate Michael Badnarik will be demanding a recount. No other candidate has stated an intention to seek a recount and no other citizen or organization would have legal standing to do so in Ohio. The Cobb-LaMarche campaign is still exploring the possibility of seeking recounts in other states but no decision has been made yet.

The Cobb-LaMarche website is  http://www.votecobb.org.

The website for the national Green Party is  http://www.gp.org.

homepage: homepage: http://www.votecobb.org

Way to go Greens and Cobb! 15.Nov.2004 08:11

Brian Setzler

Keep on, keeping on!!!!

I'm proud to be a Green.

Register Green. Vote Green. Give Green. Be Green.

great 15.Nov.2004 08:37


I gave 100.00 of that.

give the corporate fascists in the Democrats and Republicans hell. Without vote assurance--which is what Kerry and Bush have shown they want--this democracy is dead.

Nicely said! 15.Nov.2004 09:10


Without vote assurance ... this democracy is dead

Very sell said!

Congrats to all involved in making the Ohio recount happen. Anyone hear that there will be a recount in Florida too? Or was that just a dream that had the other night?

Florida, here you Go! 15.Nov.2004 11:38


Apparantly there IS a Senator thats going to sign for the Florida recount:

Nader-Camejo Goes Forward with Hand Recount in New Hampshire 15.Nov.2004 12:02


Nader-Camejo Goes Forward with Hand Recount in New Hampshire

Washington, DC: The Nader-Camejo is going forward with a hand recount in New Hampshire. The recount will begin in areas where the vote favored President Bush in anomalous ways.

Nader-Camejo has requested a hand recount of the vote in New Hampshire because of reports of votes favoring President Bush in towns that used the Diebold AccuVote optical scan machines. The Nader-Camejo campaign received more than 2,000 faxes from citizens concerned about the vote count who urged the campaign to request a hand recount in New Hampshire. (Review the request for a hand recount in New Hampshire.)

"A hand recount will either rule out the possibility of machine error or show a discrepancy in the Diebold machine and the actual vote - either way voters need to know," said Nader. "Regardless of whether it changes the electoral outcome, the Democrats should join us in this effort and follow through on their repeated promises to make sure every vote is counted - in Ohio and other states."

Voting-rights groups and others have identified trouble spots and irregularities in several states meriting further investigation. The Nader-Camejo campaign is working with voting rights activists on these concerns.

"Turning over the counting of votes to corporations gives new meaning to the term 'corporate power,'" said Nader. "Three or four proprietary corporations being given the authority to count the vote on trade secreted software undermines the transparency of elections. With other obstructions and massive corporate campaign cash, they threaten the very foundation of our democracy - its elections."

The Nader-Camejo campaign does not view the election to be over merely because concession speeches, which have no legal effect, have been delivered. Rather they are over when every vote is counted and legally certified.

sharing an article of mine, here is what we are up against 15.Nov.2004 12:17


Share this with the people doing the recounts if you find it useful. I wrote this up in FEBRUARY 2004, MONTHS BEFORE THE PRESENT HOOPLA.

I predicted EXACTLY WHERE RECOUTS on questionable votes ARE GOING FORWARD FIRST. In the article I suggest why this is so. It's worthwhile to re-read and share, so I'm posting it as a link here.

newswire article coverage united states 29.Feb.2004 05:45
9.11 investigation | election fraud | police / legal | technology
author: Spartacus

The map of where the voting machines are for 2004 is overlaid on a 10-region block area of predictable voting pattern demographics for the past 30 years. These 10 areas represent how the United States has voted in presidential elections, as blocks, in the past 30 years. This is information that would be common knowledge in any Bush 2004 planning team. What it shows about where the insecure, unverifiable electronic voting machines are: it reveals that Bush is out to get the 2004 vote in a very illegal manner. It reveals that the hideous 'war plan' of the Bushites Neo-cons in power is to introduce electronic voting machine technology only where it will assure a Bush win--in particularly crucial contentious areas—while leaving durable Republican-voting areas as low priority areas for electronic voting machine introduction.

The below article is a description of these 10 durable regional areas, with commentary of how the introduction of voting machine technology differently in them has allowed the option for Bush and his henchmen to remove Bush voter opposition electronically at the polls--through nationally orchestrated vote fraud.

[three maps at the link]

1. Priority areas to place unverifiable electronic voting machines, '00-'04.

2. The durable demographic regions: how America votes--pre Bush, pre 2000.

3. One nation, Under Vote Fraud: How America Votes--post Bush, after 2000.


? 15.Nov.2004 12:19


How will they have a recount in Ohio? I thought the vote machines did not keep a paper record of votes. You can't recount if there's nothing to count!

from the discrepancies alone, the so called "Republicans" (fascists) are toast 15.Nov.2004 12:56


Something from an Ohio investigative reporter may answer your question:

None dare call it voter suppression and fraud--on Ohio vote

Must read: "None dare call it voter suppression and fraud"
author: Bob Fitrakis (reposted by an indymedia reader)

Bob Fitrakis is a Professor in the Social and Behavioral Sciences
Department at Columbus State Community College. He has a Ph.D in
Political Science and a J.D. from The Ohio State University Law School.
He is the author of seven books, an investigative reporter, and Editor
of the Columbus Free Press (freepress.org). He has won ten major
investigative journalism awards including Best Coverage of Politics in
Ohio from the Ohio Society of Professional Journalists. He served as an
international election observer in the 1994 presidential elections in El
Salvador and was the co-author and editor of the report to the United
Nations. He served as legal advisor for eight polling locations on
Columbus' Near East Side for the Election Protection Coalition.

Reposted from the Free Press,
None dare call it voter suppression and fraud
November 7, 2004

Evidence is mounting that the 2004 presidential election was stolen in
Ohio. Emerging revelations of voting irregularities coupled with
well-documented Republican efforts at voter suppression prior to the
election suggests that in a fair election Kerry would have won Ohio.

Democratic hopeful Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts conceded on
November 3, based on preliminary postings by the highly partisan
Republican Ohio Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell. These
unofficial results showed Bush with 136,483 more votes than Kerry,
although 155,428 provisional ballots, 92,672 "spoiled" ballots,
additional overseas ballots, and some remaining absentee ballots
remained uncounted.

The day after his concession, Kerry drew 3,893 votes closer to Bush when
a computerized voting machine "glitch" was discovered in an Ohio
precinct. A machine in ward 1B in the predominantly Republican Gahanna,
Ohio, recorded 4,258 votes for George W. Bush when only 638 people cast
votes at the New Life Church polling site. Buried on page A6 of the
Columbus Dispatch, the story also reported that the voting machine
recorded 0 votes in a race between Franklin County Commissioners Arlene
Shoemaker and Paula Brooks. Franklin County Board of Elections Director
Matt Damschroder told the Dispatch that the voting machine glitches were
"why the results on election night are unofficial."

The right-wing New Life Church voting glitch is interesting. Free Press
reporter Marley Greiner has been tracking Blackwell's relationship with
far right-wing religious forces like Biblical America and Christian
dominionist groups that want to establish theocratic religious rule in
America. Blackwell was campaigning around the state with the Reverend
Rod Parsley as part of a "Silent No More" tour in support of amending
the Ohio Constitution to outlaw gay marriage, on the ballot as Issue
One. Many mainstream commentators claim it was the widely popular Issue
One amendment campaign that brought out Bush voters in record numbers in
rural Ohio. Gay marriage was already outlawed by state statute, and six
of the seven Ohio Supreme Court justices are Republicans.

The nonpartisan Citizen's Alliance for Secure Elections (CASE) is
investigating various other voting irregularities in Ohio, among them:

# In Auglaize County, a letter dated October 21 under the signature of
Ken Nuss, the county's former deputy director, alleges that Joe
McGinnis, a former employee of Election Systems & Software (ES&S),
violated election protocol with his unauthorized use of the county's
central tabulating computer that creates ballots and compiles election
results. Nuss, who resigned on October 21, alleges that McGinnis was
improperly granted access to the computer the weekend of October 16.

# In Miami County, with 100% of the precincts reporting at 9am EST
Wednesday, Nov. 3, Bush had 20,807 votes (65.80%) and Kerry had 10,724
(33.92%). Miami reported 31,620 voters. Inexplicably, nearly 19,000 new
ballots were added after all precincts reported, boosting Bush's vote to
33,039 (65.77%) to Kerry's 17,039 (33.92%). CASE is investigating why
the percentage of the vote stayed exactly the same to three
one-hundredths of a percentage point after nearly 19,000 new ballots
were added. CASE members speculate that it's either a long-shot
coincidence with the last three digits remaining the same, or that
someone had pre-set a database and programmed a voting machine to cough
up a pre-set percentage of votes. Miami County uses an easily hackable
optical scanner with the central counter provided by the
Republican-linked vendor ES&S.

# In Warren County, administrators and election officials locked down
the county administrative building and prohibited all independent
election observers from watching the vote count. County officials cited
"homeland security," according to the Cincinnati Enquirer. WCPO-TV
Channel 9 News Director Bob Morford told the Enquirer that he had "never
seen anything like it." Morford asserted that throwing the media and
independent observers out of the centralized counting area under the
guise of "homeland security" was a "red herring." He said, "That's
something to put up when you don't know what else to put up to keep us
out." In Warren County, Bush picked up an additional 12,000 votes over
his 2000 election total.

# In Franklin County, where Franklin County Board of Elections Director
Matt Damschroder is also the former Executive Director of the county's
Republican Party, the county Board of Elections building looked like a
bunker. Scores of city buses blocked parking spaces on the street
outside, numerous concrete barricades surrounded the parking lot, and a
metal detector was stationed at the only entrance. A phalanx of armed
deputy sheriffs swarmed the only site where provisional voters could
cast a guaranteed ballot. The Columbus Dispatch confirmed an Election
Day Free Press story that far fewer voting machines were present in
predominantly black Democratic inner-city voting wards than in the
recent primary election and the 2000 presidential election, with their
lighter turnouts. The reduced number of machines caused voters to wait
up to seven hours and wait an average of approximately three hours. One
Republican Central Committee member told the Free Press that Damschroder
held back as many as 2000 machines and dispersed many of the other
machines to affluent suburbs in Franklin County.

# In rural Drake County, Kerry received 78 less votes than Al Gore in
2000, but Bush received 3000 more votes. Drake is the only county in
Miami Valley where Kerry's votes was less than Gore's and where Bush's
vote rose dramatically.

Prior to the discovery of these irregularities, investigative reporter
Greg Palast, who exposed the systematic disenfranchisement of Democratic
voters in Florida in 2004, wrote an article entitled, "Kerry won."
Palast and numerous other observers point to the fact that the exit
polls showed Kerry winning. Palast concludes that the exit polls were
correct, but Kerry votes were far more likely to remain uncounted on
election night.

Unofficial Ohio presidential results provided by the Secretary of
State's Office show 155,428 provisional ballots cast. Blackwell was all
over the national news telling everyone who would listen that these
ballots were randomly distributed and not disproportionately for Kerry.
As former New York Mayor Rudolph Giuliani raved on national TV demanding
Kerry's concession, a basic analysis of the provisional ballots
suggested that they were disproportionately for Kerry.

Historically, provisional ballots are far more likely to be cast by poor
and minority voters, who live in the urban centers and move more often.
Ohio has 88 counties, the vast majority of them rural. Kerry won 15
counties in Ohio, virtually all large urban centers. In those counties,
85,096 provisional ballots remain uncounted. Past elections point to the
fact that these provisional ballots are hardly ever cast in the
affluent, primarily Republican municipalities, but are overwhelmingly
from the central city. Also, an additional 17,038 provisional ballots
are from Hamilton County and Wood County. Bush won Hamilton with 53% of
the vote and Wood County with 53.5%. Traditionally, the provisional
ballots in Hamilton County come from Cincinnati and its poor central
city areas. These are areas where John Kerry won handily on Election

Thus, 102,134 of the provisional ballots, nearly two-thirds (65.7%) in
all probability come from solidly pro-Kerry areas and are most likely
cast by pro-Kerry supporters such as African Americans and the poor.
These fit the same socio-economic demographics and racial profiles of
voters targeted by the GOP for challenges in Ohio.

Palast also points to the 92,672 so-called "spoiled" ballots in Ohio
that have yet to be counted, and may never be tallied. The most famous
spoiled ballots were the 2004 Florida punch cards that could not be
machine read, but when looked at manually the voter's intent could be
determined. Expert statisticians who investigated spoilage in the 2000
election in Florida found that 54% of these discarded ballots were cast
by blacks. In Ohio, most of the spoiled votes were lost through punch
card ballots in 2004.

By Blackwell directing county Boards of Elections not to count the
provisional ballots for 11 days, it benefited the Bush campaign since an
immediate counting would have no doubt made the race tigher between
Kerry and Bush, and perhaps prompted Kerry to request a recount. This
would have the 92,672 discarded "spoiled" ballots that were also likely
to favor Kerry.

Daniel Tokaji, Professor of Law at the Ohio State University College of
Law commented: "One other point. Ohio Secretary of State Ken Blackwell
has reportedly said that provisional ballots won't be counted for 11
days. I'm not sure where he's getting this, but he may be relying on ORC
3505.32. This statute provides that the boards of election are to begin
canvassing election returns between 11 and 15 days after the election
and 'continue the canvass daily until it is completed.' Perhaps I'm
missing something, but I don't see how this precludes provisional votes
from being counted earlier than that, even if the canvass doesn't begin
until the 11th day."

Spoiled ballots will only be counted if someone with standing, such as
five Kerry electors or the Ohio Democratic Party, demands and legally
qualifies for a recount. Thus, the exit polls may have been correct. A
majority of people voted for Kerry in Ohio; but 250,000 votes were not
counted, most favoring Kerry over Bush. If Kerry had won by even one
vote in Ohio, he would be the next President of the United States.

Irregularities in other key battleground states have prompted three U.S.
representatives to urgently request that the Comptroller General of the
United States David Walker and the General Accounting Office
"immediately undertake an investigation of the efficiency of voting
machines and new technologies used in the 2004 election." Tom Hartmann,
in his post election article on CommonDreams.org ("Evidence mounts that
the vote was hacked"), reminds readers that Bev Harris, who started
blackboxvoting.org, showed Howard Dean how to hack a county "central
tabulator" computer in 90 seconds live on CNBC.

The Diebold Corporation, which helped count the Ohio vote with e-voting
machines and optical scan machines, is run by a notoriously
pro-Republican CEO, Wally O'Dell. Last year O'Dell wrote a letter to
Ohio Republican donors telling them that he is "committed to helping
Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the President next year." O'Dell is
a proud member of Bush's Pioneer and Ranger team of major donors who
visit the Crawford ranch. The other major election vote counting firm is
ES&S, which is being investigated for allegedly having a machine that
subtracted votes when the totals surpassed 32,000.

On Election Day, the Election Protection Coalition observers who covered
58 polling places in central Ohio, documented thousands of voter
complaints over long lines and recorded numerous people leaving the
polls for work or because they were elderly or handicapped and
physically unable to wait for hours to vote. Professor James K.
Galbraith, of the Lyndon B. Johnson School of Public Affairs at the
University of Texas, Austin, wrote the following summary of Election Day
in Ohio: ". . . I drove a young African-American voter, a charming
business student, seven months pregnant, to her polling place at Finland
Elementary School in south Columbus. We arrived in a squalling rain to
find voters lined up outside for about a hundred yards. . . . The real
problem was a grotesque shortage of voting machines."

Ohio State University Law Professor Edward B. Foley told the New York
Times, "When your lines get to two or three hours, it's system failure."

Other bizarre tactics emerged in the run-up to the election:

# Under an archaic Ohio law, both the Republican and Democratic Parties,
or any slate of five candidates, may embed official election challengers
inside polling places. The New York Times reported on Oct. 23 that the
Republican Party intended to place thousands of lawyers and other GOP
faithfuls inside the polls to challenge voters. Republican insiders
confide here that the key goal was to jam lines and frustrate new
voters. After two federal judges rejected the GOP challengers,
Republicans got a favorable ruling from the Sixth Circuit, which allowed
them to place challengers in Ohio polling places. Michael Beaver, Deputy
State Commander with the Election Protection Coalition says, "We now
believe that the challengers were a smokescreen to hide the real plan to
orchestrate a machine shortage in Democratic wards."

# The Republican Party sent letters challenging thousands of Franklin
County registered voters who requested absentee ballots. Franklin County
is home to Columbus, the state's largest city and its capitol. Though it
is also home to Ohio State University, thousands of local students go to
schools outside the county or state. The GOP targeted young voters for
challenges. The GOP pre-challenged an estimated 35,000 voters and rented
arenas in Cleveland and Columbus to conduct the challenges. The GOP sent
registered letters to registered voters' addresses and when they failed
to pick up a letter from the Republican Party in primarily Democratic
areas, they were challenged for fraud. A federal judge disallowed the
challenges less than a week before the election.

# The Franklin County Board of Elections has called or written an
undetermined number of voters who obtained absentee ballots, challenging
their addresses. In at least one case, after a series of angry phone
calls, the Board admitted there was nothing wrong with the address in
question and re-instated voting rights. The voter in question was a
registered Democrat. His wife, an independent at the same address, was
not challenged. It is unclear how many others have been wrongly knocked

# Even if they are counted, Franklin County's absentee ballot forms are
designed in ways strikingly reminiscent of those notorious butterfly
ballots in the Florida 2000 presidential election. On Franklin County
absentee ballot forms, Kerry is the third name on the list of
presidential candidates on the left side of the ballot. But, the punch
card is designed to fit in the middle, so the actual number you punch
for Kerry is hole "4." If you mistakenly punch hole "3" you've just
voted for Bush.

# Damschroder, Franklin County's right-wing Elections Director is
insisting on e-voting machines that have malfunctioned in at least two
Congressional elections. The machines have no paper trail and one
subtracted 3% from former Rep. John Kasich's and added 3% to Ed Brown, a
six-point shift. The November issues of Popular Science and Popular
Mechanics Magazines ran the following headlines on their covers,
respectively: "E-vote emergency: And you thought dimpled chads were
bad'" and "Could hackers tilt the election?" Vigorous protests against
the paperless machines have been staged here, but many will be used,
rendering a meaningful recount impossible.

# Twenty GOP-dominated Ohio counties have given wrong information to
former felons about their voter eligibility. In Hamilton County, home of
Cincinnati and the Republican Taft family, officials told numerous
former felons that a judge had to sign off before they could vote, which
is blatantly false.

# Franklin County, which normally cancels 2-300 registered voters a year
for felony convictions, has sent at least 3,500 cancellation letters to
both current felons and ex-felons whose convictions date back to 1998.
The list includes numerous citizens who were charged with felonies but
convicted only of misdemeanors.

# Republican Secretary of State Blackwell reversed a long-standing Ohio
practice and is barring voters from casting provisional ballots within
their county if they are registered to vote but there's been a mistake
about where they are expected to cast their ballot. In this year's
spring primaries, Blackwell allowed voters to cast provisional ballots
by county, even if they were in the wrong precinct. But this fall,
voters had to leave if they were in the wrong precinct and find their
way to the right one even though they had waited in line two to three
hours. Blackwell hopes to succeed Republican Bob Taft as governor, and
has labored hard to install Diebold e-voting machines with no paper
trail throughout Ohio. Blackwell is being widely compared to the
infamous Katherine Harris, who handed Florida to George W. Bush in 2000
and was rewarded with a safe Congressional seat. Representative
Stephanie Tubbs Jones accused Blackwell of seeking "to disenfranchise
the people of the state of Ohio." Tubbs Jones pointed out that the 2000
census had caused massive redistricting, particularly within inner city
precincts, which would lead to many people ending up at the wrong voting

# The October 22 Columbus Dispatch, which endorsed Bush, and WVKO Radio
have both documented phone calls from people impersonating Franklin
County Board of Elections workers and directing registered voters to
different and incorrect polling sites. One individual was falsely told
not to vote at the polling station across the street from his house, but
at a "new" site, four miles away. Under Blackwell's new rules, such a
vote would not be counted. Nor do the precinct locations make much sense
in the inner city. Someone living on the northwest corner of Bryden and
Wilson, instead of walking half a block to the polling site at Franklin
Alternative School, must vote seven blocks northeast at the Model
Neighborhood facility polling site. The previous polling site for the
precinct was two blocks west before the Republicans consolidated several
inner city polling places in the 1990s.

# In Cincinnati, some 105,000 voters were moved from active to inactive
status within the last four years for not voting in the last two federal
elections. This is not required under Ohio law, but is an option allowed
and exercised by the Republican-dominated Hamilton County Board of

# Secretary of State Blackwell ruled that any voter registration form on
other than 80-pound weight bond paper would not be accepted. This is an
old law left over from pre-scanning days. Many voters who had registered
on lighter paper, had their registration returned, even though the forms
had been officially sanctioned by local election boards.

# On Election Day, fliers littered the inner city telling voters that
Republicans were to vote on Tuesday and Democrats on Wednesday.

No Republican has ever won the presidency without carrying Ohio. The
voting irregularities suggest that Bush is the first Republican
President to win the presidency without winning the actual Ohio vote.
Kerry won the vote in Ohio. The exit polls are correct. The mainstream
media, instead of investigating the massive irregularities, are busy
concocting theories as to how all the exit polls, the safeguards for
fair elections, were all wrong on election night in the Buckeye State.
None dare suggest voter suppression and fraud.


"If they want a recount... let them pay for it themselves...." 16.Nov.2004 10:59


why didn't kerry pay for his own recount????

who knows? 16.Nov.2004 18:34


Kerry may be reimbursing their campaigns afterwards. I mean shit... if recounts favor him or not, I sure hope he does.

Not being in the limelight on this issue is probably a very smart move, but I doubt he's ignoring this. When one concedes, it's not legally binding. Really, the people won't truly know who their "leader" is until January.


Other news: I did my part and donated $10 to Cobb for the recount. Suite.