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Florida's Broward County ES&S Vote Machines Programmed to COUNT BACKWARDS at 32,000

Officials found the software used in Broward can handle only 32,000 votes per precinct. After that, the system starts counting backward. Why a voting system would be designed to count backward was a mystery to Broward County Mayor Ilene Lieberman. She was on the phone late Wednesday with Omaha-based Elections Systems and Software. [ES&S is the company that fradulently created the fake vote totals for Gov. Bush of Florida in 2002, says US House of Representative member of Florida's 16th district [see link below.]

AND THE BACKWARDS COUNT CAN BE PROGRAMMED on only specific issues: "They affected only votes for constitutional amendments 4 through 8, because they were on the only page that was exactly the same on all county absentee ballots. The same software is used in Martin and Miami-Dade counties; Palm Beach and St. Lucie counties use different companies."
Broward Black Boxes Counted Backwards
By Eliot Kleinberg
 eliot_kleinberg@pbpost.com
Palm Beach Post Staff Writer
11-6-5

FORT LAUDERDALE - It had to happen. Things were just going too smoothly.

Early Thursday, as Broward County elections officials wrapped up after a long day of canvassing votes, something unusual caught their eye. Tallies should go up as more votes are counted. That's simple math. But in some races, the numbers had gone . . . down

Officials found the software used in Broward can handle only 32,000 votes per precinct. After that, the system starts counting backward.

Why a voting system would be designed to count backward was a mystery to Broward County Mayor Ilene Lieberman. She was on the phone late Wednesday with Omaha-based Elections Systems and Software.

Bad numbers showed up only in running tallies through the day, not the final one. Final tallies were reached by cross-checking machine totals, and officials are confident they are accurate.

The glitch affected only the 97,434 absentee ballots, Broward Elections Supervisor Brenda Snipes said. All were placed in their own precincts and optical scanners totaled votes, which were then fed to a main computer.

That's where the counting problems surfaced. They affected only votes for constitutional amendments 4 through 8, because they were on the only page that was exactly the same on all county absentee ballots. The same software is used in Martin and Miami-Dade counties; Palm Beach and St. Lucie counties use different companies.

The problem cropped up in the 2002 election. Lieberman said ES&S told her it had sent software upgrades to the Florida Secretary of State's office, but that the office kept rejecting the software. The state said that's not true. Broward elections officials said they had thought the problem was fixed.

Secretary of State spokeswoman Jenny Nash said all counties using this system had been told that such problems would occur if a precinct is set up in a way that would allow votes to get above 32,000. She said Broward should have split the absentee ballots into four separate precincts to avoid that and that a Broward elections employee since has admitted to not doing that.

But Lieberman said later, "No election employee has come to the canvassing board and made the statements that Jenny Nash said occurred."

Late Thursday, ES&S issued a statement reiterating that it learned of the problems in 2002 and said the software upgrades would be submitted to Hood's office next year. The company was working with the counties it serves to make sure ballots don't exceed capacity and said no other counties reported similar problems.

"While the county bears the ultimate responsibility for programming the ballot and structuring the precincts, we . . . regret any confusion the discrepancy in early vote totals has caused," the statement said.

After several calls to the company during the day were not returned, an ES&S spokeswoman said late Thursday she did not know whether ES&S contacted the secretary of state two years ago or whether the software is designed to count backward.

While the problem surfaced two years ago, it was under a different Br oward elections supervisor and a different secretary of state. Snipes said she had not known about the 2002 snafu.

Later, Lieberman said, "I am not passing judgments and I'm not pointing a finger." But she said that if ES&S is found to be at fault, actions might include penalizing ES&S or even defaulting on its contract.

 http://www.palmbeachpost.com/politics/
content/news/epaper/2004/11/05/a29a_BROWVOTE_1105.html



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Evidence Mounts That The Vote Was Hacked
by Thom Hartmann


When I spoke with Jeff Fisher this morning (Saturday, November 06, 2004), the Democratic candidate for the U.S. House of Representatives from Florida's 16th District said he was waiting for the FBI to show up. Fisher has evidence, he says, not only that the Florida election was hacked, but of who hacked it and how. And not just this year, he said, but that these same people had previously hacked the Democratic primary race in 2002 so that Jeb Bush would not have to run against Janet Reno, who presented a real threat to Jeb, but instead against Bill McBride, who Jeb beat.

"It was practice for a national effort," Fisher told me.

And evidence is accumulating that the national effort happened on November 2, 2004.

The State of Florida, for example, publishes a county-by-county record of votes cast and people registered to vote by party affiliation. Net denizen Kathy Dopp compiled the official state information into a table, available at  http://ustogether.org/Florida_Election.htm, and noticed something startling. ...

 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/11/302450.shtml
actually, this is easy to answer 06.Nov.2004 23:25

not even a cs major

My guess is that this was a 16-bit integer. A 16-bit signed integer has a range of -32,768 to 32,767. Once it overflows it will register a negative number. Now, in a voting system why would you even bother with a signed integer as opposed to an unsigned (unsigned being 0-65,536) and why in this day and age would you use a 16-bit number when all current architectures are at least 32-bit (with ranges in the millions)? Stupidity? Carelessness? Incompetence? Recklessness? Hubris? All of the above?

Actually 06.Nov.2004 23:42

Andy Seaton, KBOO

It sounds more like planning, with a nice plausible deniability "it's just a bug" out. This whole election software/hardware insanity isn't a disaster at all, but quite a nice hack from beginning to end. They will be exposed. Too many (non-democratic) lawyers, programmers and journalists are working on it.

The role of disinformation agents : keeping the deception flame alive 07.Nov.2004 01:10

Matt Marriott

"many (non-democratic) lawyers, programmers and journalists are working on it. " Yeah, sure

How Michael Moore is used to cover-up the electronic vote fraud

=== QUESTIONS ...
As the results of Florida were announced, do you remember Edwards not rising an eyebrow about it and just repeating, one more time what he had repeated again and again before the elections : "every vote counts and every vote will be counted" ?

Now if you ask yourself : why doesn't Kerry contest this grotesque fraud insted of conceading defeat, try remembering what did you ask yourself as Kerry admitted to be part of the same satanic secret society as his "oppositor" ...

Now if you asked yourself in the three days after the election, where is Michael Moore ... and if ask, when he pops-up again, why does he do his best to distract from the fraud of counting the votes ... try remembering what did you ask yourself as Michael Moore did his best to avoid the question of the "plane that hit the Pentagon", the "detail" that immediately exposes 9/11 as a insider operation, even for a child.

=== ... and ANSWERS

Yes, that was the role of Kerry/Edwards/Moore (and of the stage background painted as "thousands of lawyers and millions of dollars to challenge any fraud") : to make you believe that with electronic machines it's still possible to trust the results of an election
... something that any kid that used a computer for a while knows it is a blatant lie.

Yes, the role of Bush and Gore in 2000, contesting for weeks the results, was to make people believe that it was necessary to "invest" in Diebold machines next time.

But who cares ? The Dow Jones is up and above all, the oil price is down, right ? Poor fools ...
Staging of the "new economy hoax, version II" will not last as long as part I. In fact it won't even last one week ...

Michael Moore is what he appears to be, nothing more. 07.Nov.2004 01:42

me

Moore like Rush Limbaugh is a self-promoting bullshit chef who believes what he shovels and has found a way to make millions from a certain demographic who are eager to purchase his poop stew.

He is a pure capitalist in the Venetian sense of the word, like Limbaugh.

Don't blame him for not picking up every conspiracy theory out there. If he did, he would look like a kook and lose market share of his product. He has to pick and choose his battles to maintain maximum market demand.

the e-vote conundrum cuts both ways: will put Bush away? 07.Nov.2004 01:57

more

Remember, Bush is unable to say that there is verifiable proof that he won an election. There is nothing to appeal to!

"the e-vote conundrum cuts both ways" 07.Nov.2004 03:48

Tony Blair's dog

Exactly.

The important thing is to have the machines deleting votes
where the majority of people would vote for someone
else than Bush.

16 bit number 09.Nov.2004 21:21

b0b

Yes, you're correct that a 16-bit integer in twos complement arithmetic ranges from 32,767 to -32768. In the computer, 32767+1 = -32768.

I believe that it's a simple programming error. Embedded systems often still use 16 bit arithmetic, and that fact is masked by the higher level languages that are used to program them. For example, a compiler option could have been set for 16-bit compatibility mode by default, and the systems programmer might not have even been aware of that fact.

I've seen many programming defects like this in my long career. Conspiracy theories abound because this was election software, but errors like this are not at all unusual in today's highly abstracted development environments.

the whole secret voting framework of the U.S. IS ILLEGIMITE AND FASCIST 17.Nov.2004 12:46

me

If it's only simple error, then why did they let it occur? Note that it would likely be occuring elsewhere, instead of this one machine. Note that it only started to count backwards ON CERTAIN ITEMS OF THE BALLOT!

If it's only simple error, how can anyone ever know with the entirely secret vote counting framework we have in the United States? And these machines were not even analyzed as to how well they could keep out hackers, you dolt.

In short, the above (and very late in the game) comment is a very poor showing from the trolls on this one. Such brushoffs may work on one-directional media like TV though it ain't gonna work here outside of TrollTV land.