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uh oh: Ohio 2004 = Florida 2000

just as I would have predicted: it comes down to Ohio (and Florida *again*this time, there's no way BushCo. legitimately "won" that state and Florida voters will hit the streets en masse tomorrow to prove it)
Kerry refuses to concede Ohio, US vote projection in question

3 November 2004

WASHINGTON - Democratic challenger John Kerry refused to concede defeat to George W. Bush in the key swing state of Ohio, throwing television projections on Tuesday's hotly contested US presidential election into question.

The Kerry campaign rejected predictions by two networks - Fox and NBC - that called the midwestern state for Bush, saying that more than 250,000 ballots had not yet been counted and the president's only led by 100,000 votes.

"The vote count in Ohio has not been completed," Kerry campaign manager Mary Beth Cahill said in a statement. "We believe when (it has), John Kerry will win Ohio."

Her comments left open the possibility of a re-run of the legal challenges to the 2000 election in Florida which Bush eventually won by only 537 votes after the US Supreme Court ordered a halt to recounts.

The projections by Fox and NBC - which were not repeated by the three other major networks ABC, CBS and CNN - thrust Bush to within one electoral vote of winning re-election.

CNN reported that Ohio was too close to call with Bush leading Kerry by just over 100,000 votes, or 51 to 49 percent, with 93 percent of the vote counted.

If Bush is determined to have won Ohio, and without results from the seven other states not yet called, the president will be sitting on 269 electoral votes.

The winning candidate needs 270 electoral votes and if the Ohio projections stand, a Bush victory in any one of the other states - Hawaii, Iowa, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Mexico and Wisconsin - would put him over the edge

Still, Kerry could tie Bush at 269 votes, forcing the election to be decided by the House of Representatives, if he wins all the 58 electoral votes that those seven states account for.

However, a tie for Kerry would be tantamount to a loss as Bush's Republican party controls the House.

In terms of the popular vote, Bush led with 51.4 million votes, or 51 percent, to Kerry's 47.8 million votes, or 48 percent, with 83 percent of the country's precincts reporting, according to CNN.

In addition to the contested Ohio call, Bush was projected to win Alabama, Alaska, Arizona, Arkansas, Colorado, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, North Carolina, North Dakota, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, West Virginia and Wyoming.

The projections showed Kerry taking California, Connecticut, Delaware, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New York, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington, and the District of Columbia.

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thanks for the post 03.Nov.2004 00:35



Florida is the new Florida, while Dems/Repubs twiddle thumbs, love their frauds 03.Nov.2004 01:03

surprise surprise

Most voting complaints so far are in Fla.

Updated: 8:17 p.m. ET Oct. 31, 2004

MIAMI - Voters in the battleground state of Florida have called in the most complaints over missing absentee ballots, long voting lines and other problems, a group running a hotline said Sunday.

Common Cause, a nonpartisan democracy advocacy organization, reported that of 53,252 calls received nationwide, 8,658 have been from Florida, the state that delayed the 2000 election result for five weeks,

Florida's total was followed by 6,622 in the Democratic bastion of New York, which has not been a focus of either President Bush or Democratic challenger Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts in the neck-and-neck presidential race.

Common Cause, which is operating the voter alert line with a consortium of groups, said thousands of calls also were reported in the key battleground states of Pennsylvania, 5,409, Michigan, 3,831, and Ohio, 1,639. Complaints also were received from California, South Carolina, New Jersey and Bush's home state of Texas.

In Florida, the highest number of calls came from Broward County, where thousands of absentee ballots, mailed to voters unable to vote in person on Election Day, appeared to have gone astray in the mail or on the way to the post office.

While the flood of complaints from Florida could partly be attributed to voter anxiety after the fiasco of 2000, in which thousands of votes may not have been counted, the level of public concern across the nation was alarming, said Common Cause President Chellie Pingree.

"I don't think we expected 53,000 before November 2nd. We were expecting 100,000 calls on Election Day," she said.

Broward, a Democrat-leaning county around Fort Lauderdale in the state run by Bush's brother, Gov. Jeb Bush, said this week that up to 58,000 absentee ballots accounting for more than 5 percent of the electorate were missing.

It later said some had begun to turn up and only up to 15,000 would have to be resent.

A late mailing Saturday gave the Postal Service little opportunity to get them to voters and back by the close of voting Tuesday.

Florida is anxious to avoid a repeat of 2000, when the presidential race in the state was so close it triggered recounts and lawsuits, eventually going to Bush by 537 votes and winning his election in the Electoral College.

With the election this year so close in a handful of swing states, Democratic and Republican Party officials are bracing for a flurry of similar challenges after Tuesday's voting should they become necessary.

URL:  http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6376911/

What's Happening In Ohio 03.Nov.2004 01:08

The Free Press

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Ohio hanging by thread: Questions raised over provisional ballots 03.Nov.2004 01:47


"Questions raised over provisional ballots threaten to delay a final verdict in the US presidential election."

see images with current claimed numbers. The whole country, though, is the "new Florida."