INTERVIEWER: Thanks for stopping by to talk with us today, G. First of all, what do you think about Western civilization?
GANDHI: I think it would be a very good idea.
INTERVIEWER: What do you think of our Georgie-boy? Is he the anti-christ or what?
GANDHI: All humanity is one undivided and indivisible family, and each one of us is responsible for the misdeeds of all the others. I cannot detach myself from the wickedest soul.......If it is his privilege to be independent, it is equally his duty to be inter-dependent. Only an arrogant man will claim to be independent of everybody else and be self-contained.
INTERVIEWER: What will be his downfall?
GANDHI: Constant development is the law of life, and a man who always tries to maintain his dogmas in order to appear consistent drives himself into a false position.
INDIRA GANDHI: My grandfather once told me that there were two kinds of people: those who do the work and those who take the credit. He told me to try to be in the first group; there was much less competition.
INTERVIEWER: Oh, Hi Mrs. Gandhi...I didn't know you were standing there. Um....Mr Gandhi....So, you really think once the public understands how fucked up he is, there'll be a social shift?
GANDHI: The moment there is suspicion about a person's motives, everything he does becomes tainted.
INTERVIEWER: But so many here are ignorant, sleepwalking dolts.
GANDHI: A nation's culture resides in the hearts and in the soul of its people.
INTERVIEWER: What do you think about the war in Iraq? Should we have invaded if only to take out Saddam?
GANDHI: Violent means will give violent freedom........For thousands to do to death to few hundreds is no bravery. It is worse than cowardice. It is unworthy of nationalism, of any religion..........Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat, for it is momentary.
What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty or democracy?
Just as a man would not cherish living in a body other than his own, so do nations not like to live under other nations, however noble and great the latter may be.
INTERVIEWER: Nice metaphor, G. There are so many people in the US who think Bush is doing the right thing - who believe in pre-emptive war and the US as a dominant force in the world. How can we stem the momentum of this wave of anger, capitalism and violence?
GANDHI: A small body of determined spirits fired by an unquenchable faith in their mission can alter the course of history.
If we are to teach real peace in this world, and if we are to carry on a real war against war, we shall have to begin with the children.
INTERVIEWER: He claims to be a born again christian; what part do you think this new-found faith plays in his policy-making?
GANDHI: Faith is not something to grasp, it is a state to grow into. As soon as we lose the moral basis, we cease to be religious. There is no such thing as religion over-riding morality. Man, for instance,cannot be untruthful, cruel or incontinent and claim to have God on his side.........I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.
INTERVIEWER: It all seems so useless; the more we talk, the more things seem to stay the same. Why even join in a debate over a political system that is corrupt to begin with?
GANDHI: If I seem to take part in politics, it is only because politics encircles us today like the coil of a snake from which one cannot get out, no matter how much one tries. I wish therefore to wrestle with the snake.
INTERVIEWER: If the Evil Empire prevails and Bush is re-elected, what can we do?
GANDHI: Be the change that you want to see in the world.
When I despair, I remember that all through history the way of truth and love has always won. There have been tyrants and murderers and for a time they seem invincible but in the end, they always fall - think of it, ALWAYS.
INTERVIEWER: Yes but, *how* will they fall? What can we do to make them fall *faster*?
GANDHI: There will have to be rigid and iron discipline before we achieve anything great and enduring, and that discipline will not come by mere academic argument and appeal to reason and logic. Discipline is learnt in the school of adversity.
INTERVIEWER: Are you suggesting revolt?
GANDHI: Democracy is not a state in which people act like sheep.....You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and decrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul.Civil disobedience can only lead to strength and purity.
Mass civil disobedience is like an earthquake, a sort of general upheaval on the political plane.......Non-cooperation is an attempt to awaken the masses, to a sense of their dignity and power. This can only be done by enabling them to realize that they need not fear brute force, if they would but know the soul within.
If co-operation is a duty, I hold that non-co-operation also under certain conditions is equally a duty.
INTERVIEWER: On a lighter note, what are your thoughts about Britney Spears recent brushes with the paparazzi?
GANDHI: I believe in equality for everyone, except reporters and photographers.