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Why I disagree with the post below about not voting

Sure, let's question the ruling order, but in the mean time, folks should vote against 36, and other harmful ballot measures!
I can understand not voting for "representatives" if you don't believe in representative democracy, but what about the more direct democracy of ballot measures, where the people actually do decide on things like putting anti-gay discrimination in the Oregon constitution, or putting caps on punitive damages as the insurance companies would like. Sure, these are not the questions that "proletarian" wants addressed, but they are being put to you.

It's not the best system, but I think folks should at least for (or against) Oregon's ballot measures.

I will try to respect people's decisions to not vote, but I really think it's everyone's duty to at least stand up to discrimination--and one important way to do that right now is by voting against Measure 36. I think I will pretty pissed at folks who talk about "questioning the ruling order" and social justice and self-determination and stuff, but refuse to vote against Measure 36, especially if it passes.

basically agree with DJ Shadow 25.Oct.2004 12:16

oregon voter

the State Ballot Measures this year are really important.

it's OK to think that the candidates are all clowns (which they are, really),

and that the voting system/heirarchy is one of DIS-empowerment. I understand, and sympathize, with that argument.

but several of this year's measures could be truly destructive and oppressive if they pass due to an eligible (if not willing) voter's non-participation.

Agree! 25.Oct.2004 12:25

Mistletoe Angel

As with my example of being 1/4 Cherokee Indian and Native American land and culture constantly being vulnerable to Western civilization and diffusion, your example is also a great reason why voting is essential.

As far as voting for candidates to suggest who you want governing you, I completely understand where Anonymous Proletariat is coming from.

Amendments are a different thing. If you were homosexual and wanted to live independently from the government or establishment, but also wanted to get married and raise a family, if 36 passed, the fact is you would ALSO be affected by the law.

Politics is a twisted web that everyone is part of, whether they like it or not. ;(

Sincerely,
Noah Eaton

voting isn't just about yourself 25.Oct.2004 13:31

it's about other people too

On their November ballot, Alabama voters will get to decide constitutional amendment 2 this year, which would strike language in their constitution that requires segregated schools. You read that right: although not enforceable because of supreme court decisions to the contrary, the original language has remained on the books for fifty years after schools were desegregated.

I mention this because *its supporters fear the amendment might not pass,* due in part to Alabama Chief Justice Roy Moore's (of 10 commandments in the courtroom fame) outspoken opposition. Alabama usually has one of these types of amendments on the ballot every year, and they often fail. It was only two years ago that the ban on interracial marriage was taken off the books! Keep in mind that none of these are actually enforceable, since these laws are already unconstitutional, but the good people of Alabama want them to remain as they are.

I can't speak for 'anonymous proletarian,' but I wonder whether it is a principled politics or a sense of profound disempowerment and alienation that drives his/her decision to abstain. I used to agree 100% with abstentionist politics, but in the past couple of years I've begun to realize that whether I like it or not, I'm still a part of the entire community around me, not just one composed of those "with whom I feel some kinship and whose presence I enjoy in order to make our lives together on our own terms." I live in a society populated by racists, bigots, and hatemongers of the worst kind, but also with strong, kind, gentle kindred spirits who are often behind the scenes.

I still respect your right to not vote; as I said I agreed with you at one time. But the more I talk to people who are directly affected by ballot measures or positions taken by elected representatives, the harder I am pressed to justify my principled little abstention. Voting may legitimize a sacred rite of democracy, but now I'm more concerned about practical results to others than having some dogmatically perfect lifestyle and politics.

Voting is the least important part of your duty as a human being 25.Oct.2004 14:20

StevetheGreen

I would take 1 committed social activist over 1000 voters any day of the week!

Voting is often looked at as the "end-all be-all" as it relates to ones duty in a democracy.
Nothing could be further from the truth.

Voting is the last least important piece of the many things one must do if they are to live up to their responsibility in a democracy. The first duty is for people to inform themselves to the truth about the issues, which takes more than a casual glance at the Oregonian or the nightly corporate media.

Getting involved on a grassroots level in your community is so much more important than voting that it embarasses me that it even needs to be stated. But that being said, voting still plays a role in making decisions that can be very important to people who lack the "privledge" that so many of us enjoy.

The same sex couples who won't be able to provide benefits to their children wish you would vote.
The seniors who have to choose between heating their homes and buying the needed medication wish you would vote.
The salmon whose habitats will be further destroyed as a result of unfettered logging wish you would vote.

If I meet one more "dreadlock" who uses the cop-out about the flaws in this bought and sold system as a way to avoid taking the few minutes it takes to possibly make a difference, I'm going to hurl.

So vote, too 25.Oct.2004 17:02

Bison Boy

One activist may well be worth a thousand voters. So be an activist!

But vote, too. After all, 1000.001 > 1000.000. Don't give away any influence you have, no matter how small.

voting is a tactic 25.Oct.2004 20:35

snobby crimethinc hipsters blow goats

voting is a tactic. of course its not going to get the best results, but it is still a useful tactic. just because you vote doesn't mean you can't get involved in activist programs, it doesn't deligitimatize anything you do, and it takes about twenty minutes. so suck it up and vote, it won't make you look dorky.

mock the bote 26.Oct.2004 01:21

poetpiet

value_standard_and_weather_stability
... Mock the vote,
- 72k -

I did this in the middle eighties and it's been online for almost 7 years (hope the background colour trick works):


<body bgcolor="#000066">

</font><font color="#FF6600">democracy featuring crazy demons</font><font color="#FFFFFF">
x x x </font><font color="#FFCC99">orderly and public accounting hubs and
centers held in check by responsible peripheries</font><font color="#FFFFFF">
x x x </font><font color="#FF9900">LETS level square about bottom lines</font><font color="#FFFFFF">
x x x </font><font color="#FFCC00">the multiple means, mindsets, meanings
and media alignment to mint more moderate, measurable and moral monies
may remove morbidly monotone monopolies</font><font color="#FFFFFF"> x
x x </font><font color="#FF9900">fold in, fi(b)re and tell, crease out,
water and swell</font><font color="#FFFFFF"> x x x </font><font color="#FF99FF">secret
secretion secretaries</font><font color="#FFFFFF"> x x x </font><font color="#00CC00">and
now for a crash course in coherent and cosmologically correct commercial

</font><font color="#FFFFFF">x
x x </font><font color="#33CCFF">mystical statuary for monastic unity</font><font color="#FFFFFF">
x x x </font><font color="#FFFF00">from rock to man, from movement of people
to ecolonomikarma of clearly re- and accountably personalized currency,
from harvesting to propagation</font><font color="#FFFFFF"> x x x </font><font color="#FF9900">blended
dusts and distinct digits reflect singular sentience and sussed sociability</font><font color="#FFFFFF">
x x x </font><font color="#FFFF99">the sun saves you and spends itself,
so return the flavor, predeem and prime some rocky time, help it soak up
rain and shine</font></font></font>
<br><font color="#FFFF99">..</font>
<br><u><font size=+2><font color="#FFFF99">The (printed pulp) sources for
</font><font color="#FF9B37">2L
about autonomous, econo(r)mic ethics </font></font></u><b><font color="#FFFF99">Destined
to outgrow the formal fashions of per-, ob-, in- and reversions of secretively
centralist, vantage point, bottleneck, privilege, pace and precedent setting,
defense, pharmaceutical, fossil and fertilizer industry complex condoned
by equally masterful movers of the IMF and world bank.</font></b>

<br><font face="Verdana"><font color="#FF9B37">(3) Robert Graves's
small but truely historical essay: Mammon and the black goddess; (2) George
Gilder----(2) Bucky Fuller+--(2) Unwin---(2) Goux (see App)---(2) Lyotard</font></font><font color="#FFCC00">

</font><font face="Verdana"><font color="#999900">Cato Institute, 224
Second street SE Wa DC 20003 (academic quarterly: The Cato Journal), libertarian
thinktank with freebanking philosophy.</font></font><font color="#FFCC00">

</font><font face="Verdana"><font color="#FF6600">Durrell Foundation,
Box 847 Berryville, Va 22611, USA; inflation fighting thinktank started
with a legacy hailing from the handtoolbusiness,</font></font><font color="#FFCC00">

</font><font face="Verdana"><font color="#FF9B37">American Institute of
economic Research,Great Barrington, 01230, USA LMP, Libertarian Microfiche
Publishing</font></font><font color="#FFCC00">

</font><font face="Verdana"><font color="#33CCFF">John Zube's efforts
at fixing the leaks to float the human rights boat. </font><font color="#CCFFFF">Without
the right to issue private money tokens unemployment can not be abolished
nor can harmless competition (differentiation and open centralisation)
be realized. </font><font color="#33CCFF">c/o John Zube, 7 Oxley st, Berrima,
NSW 2577, tel (61) 48771436. The worlds biggest and cheapest collection
of drafts and deliberation towards social reform legislation (1/2 a million
A4 pages ) inspired by and featuring Ulrich von Beckerath+ yet to become
known as social reformer and matchlessly eminent historian and his friends
Heinrich Rittershausen+ and Walter Zander besides out of print constructive,
nonreactionary nor the bombing varieties of anarchism and monetary freedom
writings like Lysander Spooner, William Butler Greene+: "Mutual Banking",
Benjamin Tucker+ "Liberty", John Dewitt Warner: "The currency famine
of 1893" in Sound currency '95 and'96 ; Thomas Paine, Proudhon, etc, etc.
(<i>all material averages 2$ for 120 pages per fiche, they are called peace
plans, PP 760-765 has the tables of contents of the first 3/4 of the collection</i>)</font></font><font color="#FFCC00">

</font><font face="Verdana"><font color="#FF9B37">Leopold Kohr+- --Judy
Shelton-- --Roland Vaubel --Lewis Hyde---- Donald Mccloskey-- --Mirowski
---Michael Lewis ----Tom Greco- ---E Riegel</font></font>
<br><u><font color="#FFCC00"><font size=+2>here we go</font></font></u>
<br><font color="#FF6600"><b><u>Parable:</u></b> Top down information,
open central, free and accesible as sunlight, augmented by bottom up growth
from inanimate crystaline per-for(m)ated formation thanks to pulling your
weight imperatively and the parallel, equally decentralizing
money emission commitments spell spirit and spunk, without these, there
frankly and in all fairness can be no free trade and certainly no free
migration, let alone full fertility restoration and mutual sustenance
on par.</font><font color="#FFCC00">

<b><u>Credits:</u></b> My studies in search of a juster economics
started with my already mentioned frustrations concerning the causes for
the relative and as I found out very much related general ignorance about
the less verbally admitted and proclaimed than pronounced 'misted mineral
emission' meaning of mother earth's do it herself help for fertility, but
first I encountered efforts by the likes of Kitson, Soddy and Gesell with
sideway glances at conspiracy theorists who habitually point the apathetic
scape goating finger and look at personal causes for long since institutionalized
principles, all of whom make no bones about centralized emissions however,
just wanting a go at the controls themselves I guess. </font><font color="#FFCC99">I
still have a debt owing to the Swiss "freiwirtschaftler, Rohkoestler und
Steinmehlstreuer" besides the in this respect sideways related work of
Arnold Keyserling for the lesson that material and spiritual heritage seek
to reflect and help each other out to achieve balance in the mediating
soul. </font><font color="#66FFFF">Next came Wilken's parity pitch (still
adhered to in Acres USA which celebrated its 25th anniversary in 95), he
maintained that monetization measures must not exceed seven times the price
fetched for raw materials, which leaves one seventh of all wealth in the
hands of landworkers who ideally enhance its beauty through diversification
(he doesn't say this in so many words but the homestead as arc concept
was still very much alive in his day). </font><font face="Century Schoolbook"><font color="#FF6600">Finally,
work by <a href=" link to members.tripod.com
(Unemployment as a problem of turnover credit, etc.)</a>, a popular professor,
befriended and mentored by <a href=" link to members.tripod.com
von Beckerath (Bth) </a>fell into my lap as a stroke of good fortune to
crown my efforts. Bth had the knack of presenting his readership with facts
that allowed 'm to draw and come to conclusions instead of giving them
the customary feeling of having to try translate some perscriptively alien
formula into their own circumstances; he was an unknown insurance mathematician
(some of his work was published in the thirties crisis: "does job creation
take money?", by <a href=" link to members.tripod.com
Milhaud in his Annals of Common Economy, Geneva,</a> but his manuscripts
and library burned up in the war), his thousands of pages worth, personal
letter collection constitutes the core, inspiration, main attraction and
best reason to merit more attention for the worlds largest and cheapest
source of monetary freedom, libertarian and constructive anarchist documents
made available on cheap fiches called Peace Plans by Beckerath's trustee

<a href=" link to members.tripod.com
Zube, who runs LMP, Libertarian Microfiche Publishing from 35, Oxley st,
lot 7, Berrima (near Sydney) NSW2577 Australia. </a>I have little dispute
carrying command over the substance but hope to mend that by going through
closer study. I believe the rockdust saga (mineral cycle awareness) is
not going to make much headway into consciouness til the more mental currencies
are exposed, humbled and literally brought back and put in their proper
place. What one cannot visualize with all its springing points, returns
to chip away at, and/or break through the cracks of our reactionary dealings
with reality til we get it right. </font></font><font color="#CCFFFF">Keynes
versus Beckerath is as Jesus vs Cernunnos (see ch 6)</font>
<br><font color="#999900"><b><u>Democracy featuring crazy demons:</u></b>
Beckerath relates a story about a <B style="color:black;background-color:#A0FFFF">vote</B> for or against restrictions of some
kind, it turned out everybody was for applying these, but to except themselves,
voila the birth of a collectivism and an individualism all at one and the
same time,</font>
<br><font color="#999900">receiving equal amounts of votes.</font><font color="#FFCC00">

</font><font color="#FF99FF"><B style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">Mock</B> the <B style="color:black;background-color:#A0FFFF">vote</B>, clock quadrannual politics
out with your own daily businesscard/ad/valuestandard/moneymint- and minding.</font><font color="#FFCC00">

<u><font face="Courier New,Courier">Here is my attempt at giving you the
gist of what stuck after glancing through 4000 pages worth of Bth inimitable
style of drily conveying information:</font></u></font><font color="#FF99FF"><b><u>We
don't need: </u></b>stampede mood making and breaking, anonymous manipulators
who bribe, tax and dictate the mindless stage pageantry aidience from behind
its theatrical buzzword patchwork facade (roughly with astrologically signature
like newspaperarticle-sequences sometimes, no doubt, but in the big and
wild blanding moneymixer nothing gets out alive), votes for these however
much charisma possesing but almost invariably to active or passive pissing
post degrading figureheads give the sheepishly silent majorities the all
too rare, illusionary and ineffective chance to influence the course of
e-vents, all this keeps us lumped into un- or at most reactionarily criticalherd
mechanisms of imposition.</font><font color="#FFCC00">

</font><font color="#00CC00"><b><u>But we do need:</u></b> diversified
monies as truely specific, daily ballot tickets passing through all hands,
cause they originate from our extent of and capacity for bonding at basic
and bare necessity levels, not from volatile speculative bubble scum on
top, (and make no mistake about it, when a centralized issue is at stake,
the meanest and most ruthless will show off or cover up their fancyest
elbow work depending on how blatantly fashistic they hold power at this
front if we let them) bycause all projects need to have the support and
permission of all the ones entitled to a say (in proportion to the extent
they would be affected by it) about the matter before it ever gets to be,
however local to start with, common currency. This doesn't mean we lose
the equitable equating, balancing, liberating libra quality of a standard
of value as reckoning unit, just as long as nobody can hoard, hog and accumulate
it physically by force or finnageling, that is refuse compensation and
demand the real thing however scarce; by analogy nobody owns the sun, but
all can use their share of light as usuriously as they like and are able
to process and grow away with it, buying and selling the results.</font>
<br><font color="#CCCCCC"><font size=+2>Orderly, transparant and public
tabulating and accounting hubs and centers </font></font><font face="Impact"><font size=+3><font color="#006600">can
and must be kept </font><font color="#33FF33">(a wakeful </font><font color="#CCCCCC">(round
the clock)</font><font color="#33FF33"> eye on)</font><font color="#006600">

and held in check by responsible peripheries.</font></font></font><font color="#FFCC00">

</font><font face="Courier New,Courier"><font color="#999999"><b>Diversity
and decentralization stimulate noncompetitive competence and dispersion
of surplus. Shortage calls for balancing with subsequent avoidance resulting
in abundance.</b> </font><font color="#FFFFFF">Centralization must become
open, honest and simply registering, accessible thoroughfare, nonencrypted,
cooperative, nonsecretive and undistorting.</font></font><font color="#FFCC00">

</font><font color="#FF6600">Fusing the libraries, parlaments, congresses
departments, ministries, media and banks together frees up the spectacle,
socialization and various types of theatrical spaces for more playful functionality.</font><font color="#FFCC00">
</font><font color="#66FF99">Communism (state capitalism) turns to secretive
and private yet nontheless centralized capitalism which in its turn should
give the almighty manipulated means of payment the slip to let its constituents
free for the next step also, if it wants to get and stay ahead again. Which
it does, right?. Logo, no? A move that goes beyond democracy, dropping
majority rule dictates for systemically diversified (alphabetized) to and
fro each all their own hitlists choosings of ads, plans, businesscards,
vouchers, voting slips and every other kind current above board, on the
ledgers, in the papers, through the fibers, all neatly categorized, indexed
and dated, tying emotions to tangibles, which only emitters and associates
must redeem at face value if returned to be cashed back in while valid,
starts with the freedom to emit such money.</font><font color="#FFCC00">
Personalized money (vouchers) were once called promissory notes,in an open
competition of potty training olympics, choosing and championing
from amongst many causes by confidently circulating their specific bills
unanimously rather than anonymously is a colourful, ongoing and therefore
decidedly undecidable but exact score keeping event to which the anonymous
yet exclusive black out and white wash blind, blend and bland, admini-
and demon-stratively crazy democracy, imposing on minorities and nonvoters
alike, as they do in our essentially secretive society, compares unflavor-and
-savorly.
</font><font color="#FF6600">Visit
your card upon the world, show off how well equipt and fit out you wiz.

</font><font color="#FFFFFF">Customized currencies can replace voting ballots
and polls, even dissolve gridlocked, duelling and dichotomous dualities,
simply through (p)articulate and specific attention given to the legitimacy
of choice: currency competition to rule out coercion.</font><font color="#FFCC00">
A truly legal, open, honest and helpful tender is based on updatable, crossreferenced
resume's, both numbered and dated.

</font><font color="#FF9900"><B style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">Mock</B> the <B style="color:black;background-color:#A0FFFF">vote</B> unless you can <B style="color:black;background-color:#A0FFFF">vote</B> constantly
by choosing from amongst the many present and future monies (simple goods
and services after all), which were wanting, wished, hoped for and can
be planned (is printed, publicised, calculated emitted, financed
and executed into existence), so fuck one kind of money, people can only
learn to put their mouths where their monies are, if and when these in
turn teach them where the mouths willing to eat, drink and sing are, the
myriads of metabolic profusion now haunted with starvation and poison.</font>

<br><font color="#FF0080"><b><u><B style="color:black;background-color:#ffff66">Mock</B> the <B style="color:black;background-color:#A0FFFF">vote</B>, unblock the rock, clock
the buck:</u></b> LETS level and square about bottom lines. Money
may evolve to businesscard(called visiting card in Dutch)like ID and means
of payment in one, it will have date and time of birth, eyeball, hair,
nail, tooth, skin, frame and silhouette info; even enumerate, qualify,
categorize and index: tools, capital goods, instruments, toys and arsenals,
in short inventorize everything including talents and predilections, kinda
like the CIA, etc., except, here comes the clincher: open and accesible
like sunshine, serving accurate and reciprocal scrutiny by and for
everybody, processed efficiently into daily scorekeeping.</font><font color="#FFCC00">

</font><font color="#FF6600">Plenty of decentralized every man for (but
not by) himself competition out there, yet relatively negligible amounts
in complementarily representational currency to reflect relative value
thereof and base capital demand (meet ready goods to be moved or plans
to be executed) and corresponding supply on.</font><font color="#FFCC00">
We run into problems from too much money sooner than from too many monies.

</font><font color="#FFFF00">In its socalled golden age the 17th century
Holland had a (valued in but not traded for gold) 1000 kinds of circulating
bills. </font><font color="#FFCC00">Don't hang your most tender feelings
of security, justice and/or equality on "legal" tender. Look, you haven't
even the right to create yours at your own risk and that of those who choose
to deal with you! Money is not the root of all evil, not even the
love of money but the love of any one kind of money alone, which can and
will become a very mis- treat-, guid- and representing one at that. Instead
the love of monies (more than one coherent identity undoing kind) is like
the love of dictionaries and discernment, </font><font color="#FFFF00">the
love of coordinates and success rates of microclimate and bioregional radiance
reception</font><font color="#FFCC00">,

</font><font color="#FF6600">it
also has the ability to buy from and/or go help out with any growing
production that strikes your fancy, even merely projected ones. mellowing
the tides that stretch between abundance and scarcity.</font><font color="#FFCC00">
</font><font color="#FFFF00">Do any of the numberpushing global administrators
and debt reschedulers ever blow soap bubbles and deal in viral rumours?
</font><font color="#FF6600">Start
a viably against all odds one today; cause under open conditions the good
drives out the bad.</font><font color="#FFCC00">
M <b><u>The multiple means, mindsets, meanings and media alignment
to mint more moderate, measurable and moral monies may remove morbidly
monotone monopolies:</u></b></font><font color="#CC6600"><b> see
also: two in one is three (9L), a bit binary, inform and unfold (9B) See
"idee forte" in the september 94 issue of the magazine Wired about
superdistribution (pay for productuse, not info).</b></font><font color="#FFCC00">

</font><font color="#33FF33">Monopoly money must be exclusive, expensive,
sacrificed and competed for to weed out lesser partakers and -ticipants;
it thus dictates for a deep sea politics of take over and swallow ups for
the bigger bullies.</font><font color="#FFCC00">

The belligerently bloated and loafing monopolizers and inflators discourage,
preempt, restrict, ridicule, ignore, even forbid and outlaw small selfhelp-credit
and destroy value and its possible sustabilization insatiably, all dreading
and defusing the day brawn and brute go out for tact, honesty and
agility to come in to better mousetrap power.

</font><font color="#CCFFFF">Just as blind, bland and blend money hides
good and bad alike (to subsidize one with the other), so does who ever
came latest or even better, comes on now, harvest oggling attention while
obscuring perspective like toxic juvenile graffiti signature overlays.
But on the other hand however quite to the contrary, a selective intake
provision due to a no overdraft allowed policy makes all sinning aimed
at it bounce back at equal or greater tilt depending on viberate.</font><font color="#FFCC00">

</font><font color="#FF6600">Just monies need space, time and quantity
specs (specifications) plus an accesible, recent and trustworthy (free
random check) rating, not a too undifferentiated, contradictorily and nonvoluntarily
coerced and collectively conglomerated cover instituted by real eased and
unleashed rock dreading, stuck up-tight-fisted lip serving nincom pact
poopering pseudo fundamentalists.</font><font color="#FFCC00">

<b><u>Soil banking; the save way for economic freedom of all life forms:</u></b></font><font color="#CCCCCC">
Clinton wishes to make change but doesn't know what humble, modest, grassroots,
effective, greatest need of tiny subjects satisfying small change is.</font><font color="#FFCC00">
Put a price on the overhead growth ingredient reduction obstruction

and on biomass diminishing as well, free up and order the infoflow of associability
to the status of priceless preciousness, giving an inch and a hint to a
perceptive (meaning naive and young enough) audience is all it takes. </font><font color="#FFFF00">If
info and sunshine are equally free you can still charge people for what
you have done with it.</font><font color="#FFCC00">
</font><font color="#33CCFF">Fuse post office, library, media and government
together in one networked, unencrypted, open and nonsecret agency with
terminal time slots for every literate body; I bet enough funds would come
in to keep it going even (and probably best), on a voluntary basis with
capacity to spare, arms will then gradually start to be recycled till none
remain and never revive again, turned into toys and tools like nonpolluting
cameras, musical and sporty model rockgrinders.</font><font color="#FFCC00">
</body>


mock the boat! . . I mean rock the moat 26.Oct.2004 01:43

piet

this time I checked for code cognichange, sorry about the above ..
democracy featuring crazy demonsx x x orderly and public accounting hubs and centers held in check by responsible peripheriesx x x LETS level square about bottom linesx x x the multiple means, mindsets, meanings and media alignment to mint more moderate, measurable and moral monies may remove morbidly monotone monopolies x x x fold in, fi(b)re and tell, crease out, water and swell x x x secret secretion secretaries x x x and now for a crash course in coherent and cosmologically correct commercial x x x mystical statuary for monastic unityx x x from rock to man, from movement of people to ecolonomikarma of clearly re- and accountably personalized currency, from harvesting to propagation x x x blended dusts and distinct digits reflect singular sentience and sussed sociabilityx x x the sun saves you and spends itself, so return the flavor, predeem and prime some rocky time, help it soak up rain and shine
..
The (printed pulp) sources for 2L about autonomous, econo(r)mic ethics Destined to outgrow the formal fashions of per-, ob-, in- and reversions of secretively centralist, vantage point, bottleneck, privilege, pace and precedent setting, defense, pharmaceutical, fossil and fertilizer industry complex condoned by equally masterful movers of the IMF and world bank.
(3) Robert Graves's small but truely historical essay: Mammon and the black goddess; (2) George Gilder----(2) Bucky Fuller+--(2) Unwin---(2) Goux (see App)---(2) Lyotard Cato Institute, 224 Second street SE Wa DC 20003 (academic quarterly: The Cato Journal), libertarian thinktank with freebanking philosophy. Durrell Foundation, Box 847 Berryville, Va 22611, USA; inflation fighting thinktank started with a legacy hailing from the handtoolbusiness, American Institute of economic Research,Great Barrington, 01230, USA LMP, Libertarian Microfiche Publishing John Zube's efforts at fixing the leaks to float the human rights boat. Without the right to issue private money tokens unemployment can not be abolished nor can harmless competition (differentiation and open centralisation) be realized. c/o John Zube, 7 Oxley st, Berrima, NSW 2577, tel (61) 48771436. The worlds biggest and cheapest collection of drafts and deliberation towards social reform legislation (1/2 a million A4 pages ) inspired by and featuring Ulrich von Beckerath+ yet to become known as social reformer and matchlessly eminent historian and his friends Heinrich Rittershausen+ and Walter Zander besides out of print constructive, nonreactionary nor the bombing varieties of anarchism and monetary freedom writings like Lysander Spooner, William Butler Greene+: "Mutual Banking", Benjamin Tucker+ "Liberty", John Dewitt Warner: "The currency famine of 1893" in Sound currency '95 and'96 ; Thomas Paine, Proudhon, etc, etc. (all material averages 2$ for 120 pages per fiche, they are called peace plans, PP 760-765 has the tables of contents of the first 3/4 of the collection) Leopold Kohr+- --Judy Shelton-- --Roland Vaubel --Lewis Hyde---- Donald Mccloskey-- --Mirowski ---Michael Lewis ----Tom Greco- ---E Riegel
here we go
Parable: Top down information, open central, free and accesible as sunlight, augmented by bottom up growth from inanimate crystaline per-for(m)ated formation thanks to pulling your weight imperatively and the parallel, equally decentralizing money emission commitments spell spirit and spunk, without these, there frankly and in all fairness can be no free trade and certainly no free migration, let alone full fertility restoration and mutual sustenance on par. Credits: My studies in search of a juster economics started with my already mentioned frustrations concerning the causes for the relative and as I found out very much related general ignorance about the less verbally admitted and proclaimed than pronounced 'misted mineral emission' meaning of mother earth's do it herself help for fertility, but first I encountered efforts by the likes of Kitson, Soddy and Gesell with sideway glances at conspiracy theorists who habitually point the apathetic scape goating finger and look at personal causes for long since institutionalized principles, all of whom make no bones about centralized emissions however, just wanting a go at the controls themselves I guess. I still have a debt owing to the Swiss "freiwirtschaftler, Rohkoestler und Steinmehlstreuer" besides the in this respect sideways related work of Arnold Keyserling for the lesson that material and spiritual heritage seek to reflect and help each other out to achieve balance in the mediating soul. Next came Wilken's parity pitch (still adhered to in Acres USA which celebrated its 25th anniversary in 95), he maintained that monetization measures must not exceed seven times the price fetched for raw materials, which leaves one seventh of all wealth in the hands of landworkers who ideally enhance its beauty through diversification (he doesn't say this in so many words but the homestead as arc concept was still very much alive in his day). Finally, work by Rittershausen (Unemployment as a problem of turnover credit, etc.), a popular professor, befriended and mentored by Ulrich von Beckerath (Bth) fell into my lap as a stroke of good fortune to crown my efforts. Bth had the knack of presenting his readership with facts that allowed 'm to draw and come to conclusions instead of giving them the customary feeling of having to try translate some perscriptively alien formula into their own circumstances; he was an unknown insurance mathematician (some of his work was published in the thirties crisis: "does job creation take money?", by Edgar Milhaud in his Annals of Common Economy, Geneva, but his manuscripts and library burned up in the war), his thousands of pages worth, personal letter collection constitutes the core, inspiration, main attraction and best reason to merit more attention for the worlds largest and cheapest source of monetary freedom, libertarian and constructive anarchist documents made available on cheap fiches called Peace Plans by Beckerath's trustee John Zube, who runs LMP, Libertarian Microfiche Publishing from 35, Oxley st, lot 7, Berrima (near Sydney) NSW2577 Australia. I have little dispute carrying command over the substance but hope to mend that by going through closer study. I believe the rockdust saga (mineral cycle awareness) is not going to make much headway into consciouness til the more mental currencies are exposed, humbled and literally brought back and put in their proper place. What one cannot visualize with all its springing points, returns to chip away at, and/or break through the cracks of our reactionary dealings with reality til we get it right. Keynes versus Beckerath is as Jesus vs Cernunnos (see ch 6)
Democracy featuring crazy demons: Beckerath relates a story about a vote for or against restrictions of some kind, it turned out everybody was for applying these, but to except themselves, voila the birth of a collectivism and an individualism all at one and the same time,
receiving equal amounts of votes. Mock the vote, clock quadrannual politics out with your own daily businesscard/ad/valuestandard/moneymint- and minding. Here is my attempt at giving you the gist of what stuck after glancing through 4000 pages worth of Bth inimitable style of drily conveying information:We don't need: stampede mood making and breaking, anonymous manipulators who bribe, tax and dictate the mindless stage pageantry aidience from behind its theatrical buzzword patchwork facade (roughly with astrologically signature like newspaperarticle-sequences sometimes, no doubt, but in the big and wild blanding moneymixer nothing gets out alive), votes for these however much charisma possesing but almost invariably to active or passive pissing post degrading figureheads give the sheepishly silent majorities the all too rare, illusionary and ineffective chance to influence the course of e-vents, all this keeps us lumped into un- or at most reactionarily criticalherd mechanisms of imposition. But we do need: diversified monies as truely specific, daily ballot tickets passing through all hands, cause they originate from our extent of and capacity for bonding at basic and bare necessity levels, not from volatile speculative bubble scum on top, (and make no mistake about it, when a centralized issue is at stake, the meanest and most ruthless will show off or cover up their fancyest elbow work depending on how blatantly fashistic they hold power at this front if we let them) bycause all projects need to have the support and permission of all the ones entitled to a say (in proportion to the extent they would be affected by it) about the matter before it ever gets to be, however local to start with, common currency. This doesn't mean we lose the equitable equating, balancing, liberating libra quality of a standard of value as reckoning unit, just as long as nobody can hoard, hog and accumulate it physically by force or finnageling, that is refuse compensation and demand the real thing however scarce; by analogy nobody owns the sun, but all can use their share of light as usuriously as they like and are able to process and grow away with it, buying and selling the results.
Orderly, transparant and public tabulating and accounting hubs and centers can and must be kept (a wakeful (round the clock) eye on) and held in check by responsible peripheries. Diversity and decentralization stimulate noncompetitive competence and dispersion of surplus. Shortage calls for balancing with subsequent avoidance resulting in abundance. Centralization must become open, honest and simply registering, accessible thoroughfare, nonencrypted, cooperative, nonsecretive and undistorting. Fusing the libraries, parlaments, congresses departments, ministries, media and banks together frees up the spectacle, socialization and various types of theatrical spaces for more playful functionality.Communism (state capitalism) turns to secretive and private yet nontheless centralized capitalism which in its turn should give the almighty manipulated means of payment the slip to let its constituents free for the next step also, if it wants to get and stay ahead again. Which it does, right?. Logo, no? A move that goes beyond democracy, dropping majority rule dictates for systemically diversified (alphabetized) to and fro each all their own hitlists choosings of ads, plans, businesscards, vouchers, voting slips and every other kind current above board, on the ledgers, in the papers, through the fibers, all neatly categorized, indexed and dated, tying emotions to tangibles, which only emitters and associates must redeem at face value if returned to be cashed back in while valid, starts with the freedom to emit such money.Personalized money (vouchers) were once called promissory notes,in an open competition of potty training olympics, choosing and championing from amongst many causes by confidently circulating their specific bills unanimously rather than anonymously is a colourful, ongoing and therefore decidedly undecidable but exact score keeping event to which the anonymous yet exclusive black out and white wash blind, blend and bland, admini- and demon-stratively crazy democracy, imposing on minorities and nonvoters alike, as they do in our essentially secretive society, compares unflavor-and -savorly. Visit your card upon the world, show off how well equipt and fit out you wiz. Customized currencies can replace voting ballots and polls, even dissolve gridlocked, duelling and dichotomous dualities, simply through (p)articulate and specific attention given to the legitimacy of choice: currency competition to rule out coercion.A truly legal, open, honest and helpful tender is based on updatable, crossreferenced resume's, both numbered and dated. Mock the vote unless you can vote constantly by choosing from amongst the many present and future monies (simple goods and services after all), which were wanting, wished, hoped for and can be planned (is printed, publicised, calculated emitted, financed and executed into existence), so fuck one kind of money, people can only learn to put their mouths where their monies are, if and when these in turn teach them where the mouths willing to eat, drink and sing are, the myriads of metabolic profusion now haunted with starvation and poison.
Mock the vote, unblock the rock, clock the buck: LETS level and square about bottom lines. Money may evolve to businesscard(called visiting card in Dutch)like ID and means of payment in one, it will have date and time of birth, eyeball, hair, nail, tooth, skin, frame and silhouette info; even enumerate, qualify, categorize and index: tools, capital goods, instruments, toys and arsenals, in short inventorize everything including talents and predilections, kinda like the CIA, etc., except, here comes the clincher: open and accesible like sunshine, serving accurate and reciprocal scrutiny by and for everybody, processed efficiently into daily scorekeeping. Plenty of decentralized every man for (but not by) himself competition out there, yet relatively negligible amounts in complementarily representational currency to reflect relative value thereof and base capital demand (meet ready goods to be moved or plans to be executed) and corresponding supply on.We run into problems from too much money sooner than from too many monies. In its socalled golden age the 17th century Holland had a (valued in but not traded for gold) 1000 kinds of circulating bills. Don't hang your most tender feelings of security, justice and/or equality on "legal" tender. Look, you haven't even the right to create yours at your own risk and that of those who choose to deal with you! Money is not the root of all evil, not even the love of money but the love of any one kind of money alone, which can and will become a very mis- treat-, guid- and representing one at that. Instead the love of monies (more than one coherent identity undoing kind) is like the love of dictionaries and discernment, the love of coordinates and success rates of microclimate and bioregional radiance reception, it also has the ability to buy from and/or go help out with any growing production that strikes your fancy, even merely projected ones. mellowing the tides that stretch between abundance and scarcity.Do any of the numberpushing global administrators and debt reschedulers ever blow soap bubbles and deal in viral rumours? Start a viably against all odds one today; cause under open conditions the good drives out the bad.M The multiple means, mindsets, meanings and media alignment to mint more moderate, measurable and moral monies may remove morbidly monotone monopolies: see also: two in one is three (9L), a bit binary, inform and unfold (9B) See "idee forte" in the september 94 issue of the magazine Wired about superdistribution (pay for productuse, not info). Monopoly money must be exclusive, expensive, sacrificed and competed for to weed out lesser partakers and -ticipants; it thus dictates for a deep sea politics of take over and swallow ups for the bigger bullies. The belligerently bloated and loafing monopolizers and inflators discourage, preempt, restrict, ridicule, ignore, even forbid and outlaw small selfhelp-credit and destroy value and its possible sustabilization insatiably, all dreading and defusing the day brawn and brute go out for tact, honesty and agility to come in to better mousetrap power. Just as blind, bland and blend money hides good and bad alike (to subsidize one with the other), so does who ever came latest or even better, comes on now, harvest oggling attention while obscuring perspective like toxic juvenile graffiti signature overlays. But on the other hand however quite to the contrary, a selective intake provision due to a no overdraft allowed policy makes all sinning aimed at it bounce back at equal or greater tilt depending on viberate. Just monies need space, time and quantity specs (specifications) plus an accesible, recent and trustworthy (free random check) rating, not a too undifferentiated, contradictorily and nonvoluntarily coerced and collectively conglomerated cover instituted by real eased and unleashed rock dreading, stuck up-tight-fisted lip serving nincom pact poopering pseudo fundamentalists. Soil banking; the save way for economic freedom of all life forms:Clinton wishes to make change but doesn't know what humble, modest, grassroots, effective, greatest need of tiny subjects satisfying small change is.Put a price on the overhead growth ingredient reduction obstruction and on biomass diminishing as well, free up and order the infoflow of associability to the status of priceless preciousness, giving an inch and a hint to a perceptive (meaning naive and young enough) audience is all it takes. If info and sunshine are equally free you can still charge people for what you have done with it.Fuse post office, library, media and government together in one networked, unencrypted, open and nonsecret agency with terminal time slots for every literate body; I bet enough funds would come in to keep it going even (and probably best), on a voluntary basis with capacity to spare, arms will then gradually start to be recycled till none remain and never revive again, turned into toys and tools like nonpolluting cameras, musical and sporty model rockgrinders.

update 26.Oct.2004 02:12

piet

- being one of the first people to see the above I had an illuminating thought regarding my obvious infatuation with the wheel analogy, the whirlwide twirls and travels of info, currencies etcetera would be 'held in check/honest by responsible peripheries' (I used a big font and bright colour for this part) -

I meant and mean the established, rooted, accountable, responsive and active side of the pole

whereas the center would be stormy but passive, pushed around only from the countless other ends.

Now, I realize there is a perfect analogies with my latest breakthroughs on another old and long cherished, not nearly finished yet, idea of great promise and brilliance: the 'Wessel Kabbelaar' (posted in oct04 already and oct04too soon too), the periphery is analogous to the framework and the air to the information .. .now .. . if only I understood how compressible and bouncy air actually is .. . Better yet, if only Bush understood what his breath escalates and whips up to.

eh, no fair 27.Oct.2004 02:49

piet

my comment at the other recent item on voting  http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/10/300810.shtml was taken off.

catch up at  http://members.lycos.nl/vadercats/logbriefer.htm

most relevant bit:

ps: aint the election circus pathetic? All this deception, empty promising and hype to vote the one time in 4 years? Diversified monies to take its place (and turn deceptive media into truely serving and servicably truthful ones, iow, tame, civilize and auxiliarate that pack of liers) would make those of them designated to ensure turnover and circulation of healthful basics into (and constitute them as) myriads of majority votes answering to feeds-needs all the way down to the very root of all organic life, rock, itself, every living day!!!!!!! Thus would be 'cast' a FUNDAMENTALLY unadulterated expression of people's preference of biggest clout without a doubt and peaceful too, passing more, plus more and more discerningly generous hands all the time.
That says it all .. .for now.