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Are the voters stupid?

It is not considered politically correct to point out that an awful lot of voters don't have a clue what they are talking about.
A recent poll from Middle Tennessee State University sheds some light on the subject. For example, when asked which candidate wants to roll back the tax cuts for people making over $200,000 a year, a quarter thought it was Bush and a quarter didn't know. And it goes down hill from there. When asked which candidate supports specific positions on various issues, the results were no better than chance. While this poll was in Tennessee, I strongly suspect a similar poll in other states would get similar results. I find it dismaying that many people will vote for Bush because they want to tax the rich (which he opposes) or vote for Kerry because they want school vouchers for religious schools (which he opposes).

Let's look at why this might be the case 19.Oct.2004 21:59


So we could say that a lot of voters are stupid...or we could say they are mis or uninformed. Let's ask why they are uninformed, or confused.

Of course the first place to look is where they get their information. OK..nuf said...We've all been barraged with confusing messages, posts, mailings, radio ads, etc...Shit I got a call for Measure 36 supporters telling me that in Mass, because gay marriage is legal, the gay lifestyle is now being taught in the schools..So that is one cause of voters being confused..but let's look a the deeper problem.


With families, students, workers, jumping up at 5:30 or 6 am, dealing with families, or perhaps childcare, and then possibly (if they still have one) off to work, home from work, back to daycare, dinner....laundry...exactly when do these people have time to research issues on their own...

And let's just say it's their duty...but they're exhausted, worried about their families, war, money MONEY MONEY, overextended..they're POOPED. And of course that's the ideal situation for these goons to move in and say, "just trust us" we'll tell you how to vote.

That's my take on the problem...No time..there are other reasons for sure, laziness, blind trust, ignorance, fox news. But it takes time to learn about the issues, to uncover the truth, to consider all sides.

The writers of our constitution had plenty of time to consider, ponder, debate...they had slaves to work for them....So people, what does that make us. Who is doing our thinking for us, and why are we giving them our time? So we can have more stuff? Betcha don't have time to enjoy, use, use up, play with, all that stuff you trade for your time.

Take back your time and don't give them your money. Start a trend and tell people you know. Plant the seeds of doubt in a system others know doesnt work, but are afraid to pull out of.

So are voters stupid, some probably are, but I bet most of them are just real tired.

very well said, pix 20.Oct.2004 00:35

anne frank

The only other trait I would add to your description of the average American is "confused". Trying to do the right thing, most sincerely concerned about those with even less resources than they have, worried about their children's futures, and so exhausted from working and driving and getting fucked over by the system while they're trying to follow the rules and be good citizens that they just can not imagine that they have potential political power.

The only alternative is to create an alternate paradigm, as you say. Each one teach one.

yes they are, very stupid, BUT... 20.Oct.2004 09:15


The real tragedy is that they are also very selfish and that makes matters worse. America is not a country full of good people; it selfish, egotistical, immature and thoroughly dangerous for the exalted psoition it pretends to play in planetary affairs. Unfortunately we have made ourselves a cosmic laughing stock because of the huge canyon between who we really are and who we think we are; even more unfortunate, however, is that the cosmos does not let such arrogance and selfishnes go by unattended and we will have to pay a very heavy price for our total absence of humility - we will have to be humbled...

they are lying 20.Oct.2004 11:08


Why would anyone believe the media after they lied to sell a war?
The American people are not as dumb and selfish as they would have us believe. They are lying and setting us up for a stolen election. There are more of us then there are of them...question is, what are we going to do about it?

Playing With Minds 20.Oct.2004 11:21


Some of the subtle promotion is almost undetectable. Yesterday evening, one of the major networks was showing a series of images regarding upcoming election coverage. When flashing pictures of the candidates, Bush was always flashed just before Kerry; what's more, the picture of Bush was nearly always shown a bit larger and with a brighter backing. Whenever campaign coverage is shown, excerpts from Bush's speech of the day are invariably broadcast first.

During the debates, the Bushies got a concession that the height of the podiums would be the same when photographed. However networks went one better by making the TOPS OF THE CANDIDATES' HEADS level. This brought the top of Bush's podium up several inches higher than Kerry's.

casbah: 20.Oct.2004 12:21


I wanna rock you.

I don't like it. 20.Oct.2004 12:24



Yes 21.Oct.2004 11:19

Anonymous or made up

Voters are stupid because voters are people and a good number of people are just plain stupid when it comest to political issues. Its not about being misinformed, its about being stupid.

Not everyone has the same skill set. Comprehension of political issues is a skill set. Just like math or biology or any other subject, you've got people who get it and people who don't. Whether its becasue they don't want to get it, don't have the information to get it, or simply just don't fucking get it even with the information at hand, the majority of the voting population is stupid.