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PICTURES: ISRAELI whole capital is occult Masonic shrine, like Wash DC, & why this is so

israel was not founded as a jewish state, it's founded as occult state...
1 - The Israeli Supreme Court in Jerusalem.
1 - The Israeli Supreme Court in Jerusalem.
2 - Invert Cross: the only cross here, & you trample on it, w/ Muslim gravesite
2 - Invert Cross: the only cross here, & you trample on it, w/ Muslim gravesite
3 - Only Obelisk, in Rothschild's garden
3 - Only Obelisk, in Rothschild's garden
4 - Bit of Far East symbolism placed here
4 - Bit of Far East symbolism placed here
5 - Rothschild's sign, pointing to the only Egyptian obelisk
5 - Rothschild's sign, pointing to the only Egyptian obelisk
6 - Rothschild's emblem, pointing to the only Egyptian obelisk
6 - Rothschild's emblem, pointing to the only Egyptian obelisk
7 - After passing through security, first thing you will notice: Rothschilds
7 - After passing through security, first thing you will notice: Rothschilds
8 -
8 - "Darkness to Light": Masonic 10 steps x 3 = 30 steps...& get this...(to #13)
9- view; top of 30 stairs,the 'light' of Jerusalem connects with ancient areas
9- view; top of 30 stairs,the 'light' of Jerusalem connects with ancient areas
10- map of occult laylines in Israeli capital buildings extending into city...
10- map of occult laylines in Israeli capital buildings extending into city...
11-...soldered into stone architecture, & metal lines trace BETWEEN buildings
11-...soldered into stone architecture, & metal lines trace BETWEEN buildings
12- ley-line runs up the center of eye-pyramid seen through window
12- ley-line runs up the center of eye-pyramid seen through window
13- ..library, 3 other tiers: topmost PRIVATE,ex-judges only,looks up at pyramid
13- ..library, 3 other tiers: topmost PRIVATE,ex-judges only,looks up at pyramid
14- numerology squares directly below eye-pyramid view in open space below
14- numerology squares directly below eye-pyramid view in open space below
15- courtrooms shaped as ancient Jewish tombs, you enter them, missing keystones
15- courtrooms shaped as ancient Jewish tombs, you enter them, missing keystones
16- Jewish Miskan design brought to plan,eye-pyramid as holy of holies in temple
16- Jewish Miskan design brought to plan,eye-pyramid as holy of holies in temple
17- courtyard brings stone from world's largest natural crater
17- courtyard brings stone from world's largest natural crater
18- going down other 'symbolic' stairs,feminine Gnostic 'womb' fertility symbol?
18- going down other 'symbolic' stairs,feminine Gnostic 'womb' fertility symbol?
ADDED: Washington DC's 33rd degree temple, downtown
ADDED: Washington DC's 33rd degree temple, downtown
ADDED: Masonic Structure
ADDED: Masonic Structure
ISRAEL WAS NOT FOUNDED AS A JEWISH STATE, IT'S FOUNDED AS OCCULT STATE (like the U.S.): This report will shock and upset some; it is one I have put off for over 4 years. After struggling with it I have decided now is the time to write it. Knowing it could be misunderstood as anti-Semitic. God forbid that I a Jew should ever say or do anything that would be remotely considered as such, but I must admit this report does not come easy for me. The fact still remains that an evil force has been put into place in Jerusalem and has spread throughout Israel,...This report will prove that such a move is underway and has been for quiet some time......the architectural design of the New Israeli Supreme Court Building designed and paid for by Rothchilds reflects instead only the presence of Free Masonry & Illuminati architecturally. The Engineers who were chosen for this job by the Rothschilds were grandson & granddaughter of Ben-Zion Guine from Turkey who worked for Baron Rothschild, Ram Kurmi, born in Jerusalem in 1931, and Ada Karmi-Melanede born in Tel-Aviv in 1936. For those who can make something out of the numbers: important to builders to have everything done according to correct numbers: were 1,000 sheets of plans, 1,200 cement posts; worked on building for 3 years or 750 days; 20 workers each day, for 200,000 workdays; 250,000 building stones, each hand placed. Rothschilds made many stipulations with Israeli Government before the building began, among them: Rothschilds would pick the plot of land to align & build Supreme Court; Rothschilds would use their own architects; & no one would ever know how much the building cost. It took four years to build a structure with many secrets built into it. This is where our journey begins as we begin to enter into the building, for this entire journey is intended to bring one from darkness into the light, become an Illuminated one, destroy Christianity and Islam through trampling/mocking their symbols, introduce Hindu, Far Eastern, & Egyptian symbolism, & be a daily reminder of occult power in Israel for those in the know as they move Jews and Muslims like chess pawns against each other, toward a designed Middle Eastern WWIII.




The Roots of Evil in Jerusalem
www.TheGoldenReport.com
11-17-2003

This report will shock and upset some; it is one I have put off for over 4 years. After struggling with it I have decided now is the time to write it. Knowing it could be misunderstood as anti-Semitic. God forbid that I a Jew should ever say or do anything that would be remotely considered as such, but I must admit this report does not come easy for me. The fact still remains that an evil force has been put into place in Jerusalem and has spread throughout Israel, in preparations for the end time and the seat of the anti-Christ. For if we are to believe that the anti-Christ IS TO HAVE HIS SEAT ON THE TEMPLE MOUNT, then we must come to grips with some truths not being preached today. One such truth is the foundation for such a move of the Devil must be underway even as we speak if this is to happen. Or we simply are not in the end days. This report will prove that such a move is underway and has been for quiet some time. It will be accepted by some and rejected by others, but that is the way it goes.

In this report I will use many pictures showing the establishment of the Illuminati and establish proof that there has been a diabolical plot by those we refer to as the New World Order. Showing the architectural design of the New Israeli Supreme Court Building designed and paid for by the Rothchilds reflex the presence of Free Masonry and the Illuminati. I took all but one of the pictures you are about to see so I can assure that what you are seeing is real and in place.

The same families who own and control the Federal Reserve and other major financial institutions have their eyes set on the Temple Mount, and the Holy City of Jerusalem. Just as Scriptures say, the man who will be revealed as the anti-Christ will sit in that place, before the appearance of the Jewish Messiah Yeshua HaMashiach, and many will receive him as their messiah. Just actually how that will come about remains to be seen, but one thing I am convinced of is that Holy men of God will not be the ones to rebuild the Temple, it will be the Illuminati. For God would not send men to that place to perform blood sacrifices. His Son's blood was the perfect sacrifice; there is no need to shed the blood of dumb animals any longer. Yeshua did a perfect work, and it was finished. But He will return and take control of the New Temple that I feel will be built soon. But before He will return this world will have to get in such bad shape that the anti-Christ can be accepted by most as the savior who can bring peace and order to the world. But then you know the rest of that story so lets go on.

For those who may think this article is anti-Semitic I ask you to read an article on (The House Of Satan)  http://www.thegoldenreport.com/articles.asp?id=00135 for there are those who call themselves Jews but who are of the house of Satan. And many have found their way into the Israeli Knesset.

Once again Yeshua will enter into that place, the Holy Mountain of God and cleanse it, but before that happens all hell will break loose in Jerusalem and the world. So with all that said I will now show you some things that have never been published before, for the few who are aware have been afraid to speak of it. So I ask you to pray over this servant of God for protection as we go forth with these truths. These truths must be revealed in order for the Body to know how close we are to the Second Coming of Yeshua HaMasiach (Jesus the Messiah).

As this entire report will be built around the construction of this building order by the Rothchilds I should show you a picture of the building. A friend of mine took this picture as he and his wife flew over the area a couple years ago.

[1] The Supreme Court building sits on a plot of land opposite the Knesset and next to the Foreign Ministry and the Central bank of Israel. It is important to keep in mind that it sits in line with the Knesset, for we will be talking about Ley-Lines that cross under this pyramid running to the Knesset, with other ley-lines that cross in perfect order to the center of Jerusalem and on to the Rockefeller state Museum [Rockefellers were first finanical supporters of establishing a Zionist state--even before Jewish people very interested, in the late 1800s, world's hyper-rich manipulate relative strengths of directions in institutionalized religious movements for their own long-term political economic (occult) goals...]. Everything about this building has been thought out to the very finest detail, and it is diabolical. The Devils plan has been put into place before we ever had an idea of his plan. He knows his final battle will be here in Jerusalem.

The Engineers who were chosen for this job by the Rothschild's were the grandson and granddaughter of Ben-Zion Guine from Turkey who worked for Baron Rothschild, Ram Kurmi, born in Jerusalem in 1931, and Ada Karmi-Melanede born in Tel-Aviv in 1936. For those who can make something out of the numbers. It was important to the builder to have everything done according to the correct numbers. There were 1,000 sheets of plans, 1,200 cement posts; they worked on the building for 3 years or 750 days. 20 workers each day, for 200,000 workdays, 250,000 building stones, each hand placed.



The Israeli Supreme Court in Jerusalem.

[1] The first thing you will notice is the pyramid with the all Seeing Eye just like the one you will see on the American dollar bill, it sits in a circle to the left. We will elaborate on this a little later in this article. The larger circle you see at the bottom of the picture is an inverted-cross designed to walk on. [2] It is the only religious emblem designed to be trampled on under foot. At the top of the picture is a Moslem Gravesite, and just out of view to the right is an Egyptian Obelisk. [3]

To the left just out of sight is a god of the Far East. [4]

And all through the building you will detect Hindu Altars. All of this will make more sense as we go along, keep in mind we are talking about the establishment of a form of Government that will usher in the anti-Christ.

There is little proof on the building itself of the presence of the Rothschilds, but on an outside wall, we find these two items pointing TO THE GARDEN THAT DISPLAYS THE EGYPTIAN OBELISK. [5, 6]

Giving recognition to the Rothschilds, you will notice the Rothschilds emblem at the top. It is the symbol for the founder of the Rothschild Dynasty and his five sons, who established central banks throughout Europe. The Rothschilds made several stipulations with the Israeli Government before the building began, among them were: the Rothschilds would pick the plot of land to build the Supreme Court; they would use their own architects; and no one would ever know how much the building cost. It took them four years to build this structure with many secrets built into it.

After passing through security the first thing you will notice on the left wall is a large picture. [7]

From the left you will see Teddy Kollek, then Lord Rothschild, on the right standing you will see Shimon Peres, and setting at the bottom left Yhzhak Rabin. And others who brought us the Olso death process that we are now faced with.

But this is where our journey begins as we begin to enter into the building, for this entire journey is intended to bring one from darkness into the light, and become an Illuminated one. You first enter into an area with very dim lighting, but as you look up the stairs [8] you see the bright light that comes from a very large window that over looks parts of Jerusalem. [9]

Here it is very important to count the steps; there are three sets of 10 steps, making a total of 30. As you ascend these 30 steps you come from the darkness into the light. And from here you can see the world or in this case the city of Jerusalem like you haven't seen it before. [9]

It is also worth mentioning that on the left side you will see the old Jerusalem Stone, some even believe these same stones were used in the second Temple, but I have no way to prove that. On the other side you will see the smooth modern wall.

There are 6 lamp stands going up that speaks to man in his journey to gain knowledge and become illuminated. But once again I feel it necessary to tell you that it's very important to the ones who built this building that everything be perfect and in their order of things, even numerically.

As we turn to the left and begin to walk towards the Pyramid we notice a metal strip in the marble floor. [10, 11] The Ley-Lines CROSS DIRECTLY UNDER THE PYRAMID, AND RUN FROM THIS PLACE TO DIFFERENT PLACES IN THE CITY. It is where the Judges and others can stand to receive knowledge and power. Standing directly over a piece of crystal with the all Seeing Eye of Lucifer the light bearer above them.

For those who are not aware of the term Ley-Lines, it is lines in geographical places that Witches, Warlock, and Wizards walk claiming for the Devil. If you will notice in every large city all palm readers and such are usually on the same street that is a ley-line.

Here is a map of Jerusalem, [10] you can see that the Supreme Court Building and the Knesset are connected with one straight line, and at a 90 degree angle to that line half way is a Ley-line that runs perpendicular. That line runs straight down the middle of a street known as Ben Yehuda, a place where all the crazies meet, and at any given day you can find at least one who calls himself Elijah or Moses. Israelis call Ben Yehuda the freak show.

THAT LINE RUNS ON TO THE ROCKEFELLER MUSEUM; and from the Rockefeller Museum a line runs through the Moslem Quarters TO THE TEMPLE MOUNT.

I will make this map a little larger to help you out some.

Just before entering under the pyramid there is a window you can look up at the pyramid, you will notice the ley-line that runs to the center of the pyramid. [12]

For a moment lets go back to the top of the 30 steps, as we know there are 33 degrees in Free Masonry but the last three are the ones of higher learning and preparations to enter the Illuminati. So as we move from the top of the stairs [8] towards the Pyramid [11, 12] we see a great library [13] with three tiers to those three levels of higher learning. They are the three final steps in Free Masonry and after that if ones choose to go higher and have been accepted they enter the highest levels of the Illuminati. It is also important in this building to note that the 33rd level ends at the base of the Pyramid. [12]

This is a very large and expensive Library, [13] but there is something else about this one that should be mentioned. The first tier is "only" for Lawyers; the second tier is "only" for setting Judges. The highest and third tier is "only" for retired judges. Which also speaks of the order of things in the Illuminati, as one must be accepted and move to the higher level before the knowledge at that level is available to them. And directly above that third tier is the Pyramid with the all seeing eye of Lucifer. [12] That begins the journey into the Illuminati.

Directly under the Pyramid [12] you see 6 squares. [14] Six being the number of man, and each square has 4 sides speaking to the world. In the center directly under the point of the pyramid a crystal so that when one stand over it he of she is in direct line from the point of the pyramid and the crystal below. [12]

There are five Courtrooms, each has an entrance in the shape of a Jewish Tomb [15], with the opening above the door for the spirit to have freedom to enter or leave. The wall with the courtroom entrances has a [Gnostic?] curve to it, while the outer wall is straight. There are two things said about his, some say it speaks to the straight line of Justice, and the curve line of Mercy, yet others say it speaks of order out of chaos. The motto of the Illuminati. There are three Judges who set in each courtroom [as in court-martial courts of the French Revolution...], AND ABOVE THE SEATS OF THE JUDGES THERE ARE SMALLER PYRAMIDS THAT SHED LIGHT ONTO THE JUDGES AS THEY SIT OVER THOSE WHO ARE BROUGHT UP FROM THE PRISON CELLS BELOW. The Judges chambers are above the courtrooms and they come down to bring light to those who are brought up from below. [12, 13]

I have done a small cut away from the whole plan of the building in order to show you the design of a Jewish Miskan brought into the plan [16], as all the other major religions of the world are represented in one form or another. As you walk from the pyramid you can go either to the courtrooms or towards the Judges chambers. But this is what that part of the building looks like, MAKING THE PYRAMID THE HOLY OF HOLIES in this evil Miskan "Temple".

The bottom part of the above picture is the courtyard [16, 17], and here we find finished stones brought in from the desert near Mitzpe Ramon--where we find the world's largest natural crater. A narrow channel of water [17] that runs continually divides the stones. The architects claim to have been inspired from the Scriptures in Psalms 85:11 Truth shall spring up from the earth; and righteousness shall look down from heaven. For the Judges sit above this courtyard looking down.

When you leave the center Courtroom [15] or main courtroom directly across the opening you find the stairs going downstairs [18], at the base of the stairs you will find the fertility symbol always present in any illuminati structure, often hidden but always there. Much can be said about this symbol and the symbol of the masons with the compass and square with the "G" in the middle, but I will leave that for another time or for someone else.



In Conclusion


We have just lightly touched on the significance of this building for there are literally hundreds of details that point to the Illuminati and their plans for mankind. But more important to this report it ESTABLISHES A BASE FOR THE SEAT OF THE ONE that will be accepted by most as the messiah, before Yeshua returns to set up his reign and rule over the earth. I have no doubt that many will come against this report, and that the messenger rather than the message will be attacked. But I have tried to lay it out with proof and facts much more could be said and I am sure this will provoke others to say them, and possibly that is the intent of this article.

But as we all know God has a plan and it will not be stopped or detoured. Part of His plan is for His people the Jews to return home to Israel. For some Scriptures on that you could read the following verses. Isa. 60:9, Isa. 43:5-6, Jer. 16:14-15, Jer. 16:16, Isa. 49:22, Exe. 36:8 Eze. 36:24, Eze. 37:12, Eze. 39:28 just to mention a few.

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 http://www.rense.com/general44/gikdeb.htm


FOR OTHER OTHER CONNECTIONS, SEE THIS LINK: "After passing through security the first thing you will notice on the left wall is a large picture. [7] From the left you will see Teddy Kollek, then Lord Rothschild, on the right standing you will see Shimon Peres, and setting at the bottom left Yhzhak Rabin. And others who brought us the Olso death process that we are now faced with."

Title: Deliberate EUGENIC RADIATION POISONING of 100,000+ Sephardi/Yemeni by Israel/U.S. in 1950s
Author: angry
Date: 2004.08.18 09:19
Description: oh my god... Deliberate EUGENIC based radiation poisoning of 100,000+ Sephardi children by Israel in 1950s. Israel was paid to do it by the U.S. U.S. supplied equipment. Israel organized the 'experiment' intentionally along eugenic lines. Massive eugenic-based head radiation on children. And in the 1950s, Israel additionally sell thousands of Yemeni children to the U.S., shipped in cages, to be killed in nuclear experiments--after such human expeiementation on U.S. citizens was outlawed. And more on the Transfer Agreement: a Zionist & Nazi co-dependency agreement as allies. NAZIS SIMPLY MOVED AFTER WWII--TO ISRAEL AND TO THE UNITED STATES--THE AXIS FROM WHERE THEY HAVE COME TO RULE THE WORLD TODAY.
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/08/295000.shtml

Very interesting symbology 10.Sep.2004 14:40

reader

You have touched on the crux of what ails the world. Secret Societies have wreaked havoc on all cultures that have not strived to expose and remove them. This has been revealed in history across all cultures and religions down the ages.

We are taught that the devil or satan is a fairy tale and witch craft is just another point of view. But enormously powerful and rich families believe in both. The Illuminati worship Lucifer and practice witchcraft to cast spells and perform black magic to achieve their deception over unsuspecting people.

The timing of the invasion of Iraq was given much urgency pushed on by Saddam's private archealogical discovery of an ancient Babylonian manuscript that was far too revealing of the history of these Illuminati families and the origin of their religious beliefs and practices.
Why do you suppose all archealogical finds of any significance are Rockefellar controlled? We are given only the information they deem useful to their purposes.

Use your own mind and break free of their mind control, especially whenever you hear the clarion call manipulating you to hate some group of people who have never harmed you. Hate and fear the opposite of love and peace are the fuel they use to perpetrate their evil.

They will never get me to hate all: Jews, Muslims, Christians, ....see the pattern?

And so... 10.Sep.2004 15:54

Rendford Davis

And so what does it mean, how does it effect anyone´s life?

Merovingian Dynasty 10.Sep.2004 21:07

anonymous

The subject is important because very powerful people believe it to be, and so centuries of common human beings have been sent to war for these beliefs. The battle is between pagan religions like Gnosticism, Catharism, Sufism, etc., and the various sects of Roman Catholic orthodoxy. The idea was that the R.C. church, which survived for centuries as the dominant political force in Europe, Central Asia, and the Middle East, had betrayed the original teachings of Jesus for their own political power. This gave rise to the Masons and Rosicrucians, the two most influential secret societies/religions in history. Their secrecy was forced for hundreds of years due to the symbiotic relationship that existed between the Vatican Papacy and greater European monarchies, which realized the utility of a fear of an unseen evil (back then it was Satan, yesterday was communism, and today it's terrorism) and ecumenial servitude to the trappings of righteousness, could have on population control.

Number 8 photo, "Darkness to Light" 11.Sep.2004 17:25

ThomasH613 ThomasH613@aol.com

This is incorrect. The Masonic steps are 3,5, and 7 steps to light. Please get your facts straight or what you write is the same as trash. Anyone who can use the internet to reserch the Masonic Order will see your report is based upon garbage.

now, now...calm down there, my dear Mr. 11.Sep.2004 17:35

ThomasH613

the minor point you raise is so meaningless to beg the question...why you raise is?

For your info... 11.Sep.2004 17:49

Another Jew

Jerry Golden is a "Jew for Jesus", believing the Right-wing Christian evangelist view that the Jews who do not accept Christ are destined for Hell, along with all other cultures and peoples that "reject the Truth of His Revelation".

He does not represent Judaism when he speaks of himself as a "Jew" and should not be considered immune from holding and advocating anti-Jewish and anti-Muslim views.

intent of author 11.Sep.2004 19:08

daedalus

so what if the author is 'anti-jewish'? So what if he isn't?
Are you anti-african? Are you anti-german? Get off of it cupcake.

Jerusalem Masonic / Iluminati Layout 11.Sep.2004 19:08

antiUN to Another Jew

Of course Jerry Golden doesn't represent Judaism he represents Christianity. Duh.
And I find it very interesting non believing Jews always describe Evangelical Christians as "Right Wing". They are not nearly as 'Right Wing" as Zionist Jews, who label every one expressing a different opinion than theirs as "Anti Zionist"
and "Right Wing". Sure would be nice if those "Right Wing" Christians would run to the Federal courts and get a law passed every time someone said something they didn't like. But then the Right Wing Zionist Jews have that market sewn up. Along with our government, our military, our tax dollars, our Media, Hollywood, the Banking industry...
But if it makes you feel any better, Washington D.C was also layed out by Freemason. You can get a map with the layout drawn in of the Pentagram, the Horned God, the obilisk we call the Washinton monument, the real meaning of the "Statue of Liberty" etc. at www.cuttingedge.org click archived articles, you'll find alot of interesting reading there.


WashingtonDC Freemason Le-fant Interactive flash download 12.Sep.2004 00:33

Sabbateans and Rosicrucians are the highest Satanic groups

Check out this bands site. They have a pretty cool interactive flash portion that shows in detail the masonic-satanic layout of DC. Israel was founded by zionist jews and they are a Sabbatean- front just like the Bolshevism/Communism/Illuminsm/Jacobism/Neoconism + all equal SATANISM

 http://www.pokerface.com/html/alb_04.html for the page
 http://www.pokerface.com/html/alb_04.html#f for the download

bishop

JESUITS MADE AND RUN IS-RA-EL 12.Sep.2004 04:46

Anunnaki

Please people lets get this straight although IS-RA-EL is a bad place with some ruthless individuals so is AmeriKKKa and England. IS-RA-EL was not created by Zionist Jews but by the New Holy Roman Empire headed by the Jesuit Societ! The Black Pope is the true leader of this world and his society of the Jesuits & vatican run the whole show including their pawns the jews who are just a proxy like the Round Tables of the City of London. Always keep to the shadows and this is what these evil people do. But dont worry they will be shining in public between 2030-50 when they take control of Old Jerusalem and rule from King Solomons temple the 3rd as Papal Ceasar again. Illuminati is another proxy! Lets get real here and see that the Jesuits are running the show and engineering everything for the time when they rule from old Jerusalem under a banner of NEW WORLD ORDER. The Jews will not be having a great time then I assure you

Don't: keep it simple. 12.Sep.2004 06:30

Muehlbauer MMuehlbauer@cfl.rr.com

People would never believe the truth so let's make it complicated then they can find all sorts of symbolism in it, enough to keep them wondering all the days of their lives. Nothing new, just old and used up symbolism, people thinking to themselves I, am the light of the world because I understand the mystery.

The old man understood people, he understood drama, he knew before the rest caught on, whomever controls the money controls the people.

Simple stuff is often rejected as being just too simple. Whomever controls the money controls the armies of men, whomever controls the armies of men controls the future, and, the past. Is able to make night into day, day into night. Is able to make Gods and Devils, real.

Today, humanities money is little more than a line on a piece of paper, all the easier to see, all the easier to manipulate. The true wealth of any peoples is the strength of their army, the only item of value, worth killing for, is the land.

Better that people think they are fighting against Devils and Gods rather than just other men. For, if people understood the truth then they would change history and by this change the future.

Better that men think they have a savior, somewhere, something unseen but all powerful, holding people in place as the land around them is devoured away from them.

Today we have people calling themselves Jews writing about "Jesus" and people who call themselves Christians writing about Jews, the so called "chosen of God." In reality there is no Jesus, there are no Jews, the future is yet to be known, the past, is just a lie, nothing it seems is very important.

Sometime in the future I suppose there will be another big war but nothing will truly change. Sure, the revelations will be changed to meet the need, maybe, the lines on paper will change causing wealth to change directions or even hands.

New faces appear as the old faces die off, the armies of men always restless look for other armies to conquer, the mother's of men producing more and more children. Until, the end.

When will the end come? When the Sun grows huge and devours the planets, or, when a big rock crashes to Earth, or, when the oceans currents change directions and dry up the land, or, when a nuclear war makes the land uninhabitable.

Between now and then wealth will go with the flow and symbolism will hold humanity on the edges of their seats. Nothing else will change, nothing else can change, people are born, people live, people die. It's the money, that's what it is, money is what makes the difference and, nothing else matters.

Remember The Inquisition 12.Sep.2004 16:18

Ted

I've never been able to make up my mind if Rosicruceans and Masons, or even original Illuminists were/are "Satanists." Personally, I don't believe there is a "Satan" or in dualistic spiritualism (nor am I a Mason or other member, just a scientist and hobby-historian). If anything, their symbolism embraces the monotheistic beliefs represented during and after Ankenaten's rule in the Egyption empire. Hence the symbol of the winged sun for Master Masons. "Satansim" was largely a product of the New Testament and the Roman Catholic Church. Now, I'm not a great Bible scholar, so don't excoriate me for any misstatement, I'm just doing what I can to contribute to the topic.

However, it is true that Templars were given office at King Soloman's Temple to protect the trails of commerce between Europe and the Middle East following the first of the Great Crusades. This new passage, as well as the growing trade which would later result in the British Navy and the empire it protected, brought many new concepts of spirituality back to Europe. In time these beliefs became more than mere novelty and were considered a threat to some monarchies and the Vatican. So began the persecution of any outward sign of expression by the Catholic Church, which condemned anything outside its own doctrine to be Satanic.

To peer through the lens of 20th Century dogma and judge entire traditions and cultures as Satanic conspiracy, seems to me a bit myopic. I also don't believe Mayer Amschel Rothschild's rise to wealth from the Jewish ghettos of Frankfurt and philantropic vision of using his wealth to help other Jews (who at that time were like Kurds today, a people without a nation and much public acceptance), is itself conspiratorial. Why shouldn't his heirs continue that vision?

the problem I have 12.Sep.2004 22:11

Failsafe

The problem with conspiray theorists is that many of them take examples of occult on buildings or in media and corporate symbols and declare it proof of an International conspiracy. Certainly the design of that court house and indeed Washington DC appears very occult and rather disturbing, but it doesn't prove anything in any concrete sort of way. Yet people will make websites spinning tales of consipracy deception and satanism, offering only these sort of examples as proof.

I believe there is an evil force at work and I do believe the world is in some ways controlled but there is little I can prove about it. If it's true, there isn't much I can do about it either.

My View 13.Sep.2004 03:38

Sir Boogaloo

My view is this. There are certaily evil folks out there who are intent on a) decreasing the world population thru' wars and famine b)Creating a godless society c) promote new agism, paganism and witchcraft ie satanism.

Yes, the top boys are 'Jews' with a few Anglos.

Now get this, God\ Allah\ Jehaovah (God of Abraham) is in control of the world. Mankind who forget the most high will be sucked into the viod of nihilism and strife.

No harm can touch you, without the permission of the most High.

Be good to each other, worship ONE GOD and follow your in built intuition which is goodness, and turn off that damn TV !

Ameeen.

Thats right, Mr Jerry Golden! 13.Sep.2004 03:58

JMS

What my research have shown, there isnt any jewish conspiracy against mankind, only a masonic-satanic force against mankind and humanity as the free-mason
lodges and b nai b rith a jewish freemason lodge, and there are muslim freemason
lodges too.

A christian jew of origin Rev. Richard Wurmbrand wrote a great book called;
"Marx and Satan", he was imprisoned in Romania by the Communist dark forces
for many years when they ruled Romania after the Second World War!

Prieure de Sion, a Masonic Conspiracy Mowement of ancient origin, have written
the Protocolls of the Elders of Zion and they are in fact using the Protocolls
to promote their own secret ambitions on our Planet, Tellus!

As the terrorists in Russian Beslan town, were many children were killed by
dark forces, we see how the conspiracy goes on and on.

Political forces with secret masonic ambitions are ruling all over the world,
in both former communist and capitalist countries. In America both Bush and Kerry
are in fact educated by Masons and their principles; "The Skull and Bones Society" of Yale University. The Historians Mr. Anthony C. Sutton and Mr. Gary Allen, peace upon them, and Mr. Carroll Quigley have written about these subjects
the Rothschild Klan, Rockefellers and so on!

The Star of David have two meanings! One Occult of devil worship and another
symbol of man and his creator in an meaningful cooperation situation. We see how
the devil are imitating Gods Works On Our Planet!

We know that booth GOD and the Devil are very active on our planet, booth now
and what have happened in past history!

Mr. John S. Torell in Sacramento, California, have done a great job, as a christian preacher to analyse the political and religious situation on our planet, in the books he have written, in booth english and swedish language.

The United Nation mediator count Folke Bernadotte of Sweden, was killed by the
Masonic Jewish Sterngang, in Israel-Palestine 1948, when he was planning for peace between Palestinians and Israelis. These killers shot him dead! Why?
May Gods revenge be upon these killers and their children!!!

How Can Mankind Be Silent To These Masonic Activities???

Masonic Persicution 13.Sep.2004 07:31

Knight_of_the_Violet_Phoenix

There has always been dogmantic narrow minded flat earthers who think the FreeMasons are behind the world government agenda. I am a freemason. I'm sick of being attacked and having the finger pointing at me because we try to show people how to live moral lives and perfect thier spirit. Some people are just to simple minded and caught up in thier own bigotry to recieve the light. Granted, masonry is a nuetral institution and many people have abused this for evil, for power. But those masons who simply use it for thier own gain are violating thier oath and obligations and will pay for that in the end.
It has been the masons who have preserved sciences and philosophy in the times of darkness. It was the masons who where targets of the inqusition and the witch hunts. It was masons who where targets of Hitler, Musilini, Stalin, Mao, Franco, and the Ayatollahs. Masons are agaisnt Skull and Bones, against elitism, tyranny and theocracy, and we are against the NWO.

Architectural symbolism 13.Sep.2004 09:08

Nebt Khut Mau khutmau@gilanet.com

I am amazed, in this day and age, that so much hysteria can be generated by architecture! Of course, if one subscrubes to the absolute rules of Golden Geometry, I suppose you could make a case for a building being the generator of evil vibes etc.

Some pratical points;ley lines are lines of earth current, which must be pre-existing-you cannot create them. They can be discovered by dowsing, a talent that has nothing to do with pledging one's soul to the Evil one or any such other mumbo-jumbo. As to the cross motif, it may represent the four directions. Funny how Xtians are SO hypersensitive, but don't mind trashing other people's symbols!

Those of us who hold to the old religions (and I AM one of those-Egyptian Orthodox Memphis Triad, FYI)many of those symbols pertain to the light of knowledge, the understanding of the universe in which we live, and the manifestation of justice for all. Agreed, this rarely happens anywhere at all, but there are some of us who dream of it.

No doubt, there are those who are evil, and do evil, using symbols that at other times represented good. Welcome to this world, or as one person said "The School of Sorrow." In these days it seems power often resides on the Dark side. However, to always attribute these symbols to the dark side, and to consign those of us who hold to them in their true representations to the Dark side, is also to aid the forces of bigotry and oppression.

It is a quite peculiar construction, surprising in its choice. The important thing is what kind of judgements will be handed down within its courts? Then, judge the Good or Evil of its existence.

Interesting subject 13.Sep.2004 09:26

anyoldmouse

I more or less agree with Muehlbauer.

You could sum it up in one of three ways.

1) The love of money is the root of all evil. 2) He who has the gold makes the rules. 3) Follow the money.

There isn't a conspiracy to bring about a world government, it's completely out in the open.

Misled Masons 13.Sep.2004 10:00

Milo

Knight_of_the_Violet_Phoenix wrote: "Masons are agaisnt Skull and Bones, against elitism, tyranny and theocracy, and we are against the NWO."

Some Masons may well be but Freemasonry is two organisations, if Masonic adepts such as Manly P. Hall and Albert Pike are to believed. We're also told that those Masonic elitists at the top of the Masonic pyramid not only deliberately decieve the public but even their own! Masons who believe that the Institution of Freemasonry is against elitism and the New World Order are obviously deceived and in the outer portico!

Quotes:

"Freemasonry is a fraternity within a fraternity - an outer organization concealing an inner brotherhood of the elect ... it is necessary to establish the existence of these two separate and yet interdependent orders, the one visible and the other invisible. The visible society is a splendid camaraderie of 'free and accepted' men enjoined to devote themselves to ethical, educational, fraternal, patriotic, and humanitarian concerns. The invisible society is a secret and most August (defined as 'of majestic dignity, grandeur') fraternity whose members are dedicated to the service of a mysterious Arcanum (defined as 'a secret, a mystery')." - Manly P. Hall, "Lectures on Ancient Philosophy" (contained in The Secret Teachings of All Ages)

"So Masonry jealously conceals its secrets and intentionally leads conceited interpreters astray... If you have been disappointed in the first three degrees, as you have received them... remember that... symbols were used, not to reveal but to conceal... The symbols and ceremonies of Masonry have more than one meaning. They rather conceal than disclose the Truth" (Albert Pike, Morals and Dogma,pp. 105-106; 148)

"The Blue Degrees [first, second and third] are but the outer court or portico of the Temple. Part of the symbols are displayed there to the Initiate, but he is intentionally misled by false interpretations. It is not intended that he shall understand them; but it is intended that he shall imagine that he understands them. Their true explication is reserved for the Adepts, the Princes of Masonry (the 28th degree and beyond)." [Morals and Dogma, p. 819]

"Masonry, like all the Religions, all the Mysteries, Hermeticism, and Alchemy, conceals its secrets from all except the Adepts and Sages, or the Elect, and uses false explanations and misinterpretations of its symbols to mislead those who deserve only to be mislead; to conceal the Truth, which it calls light, and draw them away from it." [Morals and Dogma, p. 104-5]

"A Spirit that loves wisdom and contemplates the Truth close at hand, is forced to disguise it, to induce the multitudes [that is you] to accept it... Fictions are necessary to the people, and the Truth becomes deadly to those who are not strong enough to contemplate it in all its brilliance. In fact, what can there be in common between the vile multitude and sublime wisdom? The truth must be kept secret, and the masses need a teaching proportioned to their imperfect reason." [Morals and Dogma, p. 103]

SATAN'S PLAN for mankind 13.Sep.2004 12:08

BB Hillman

Whether you are a person who totally disses CONSPIRACY THEORIES or who believes every conspiracy you come across , the fact remains Satan has a plan which will culminate in the antichrist and his reign on earth . That plan is in the workings now and will cause great tribulation in the world for a set number of years . Thsi will take place soon as all the signs of the end of the age are upon us now . JESUS CHRIST WILL THEN RETURN and destroy this kingdom and set up His own .
Bonnie

America is a Nation of Fascists and Fanatics... 13.Sep.2004 17:07

You need a shrink

The flurry of comments on this thread proves one thing and one thing along: America is a nation of fascists and fanatics.

All this crazed ranting about the Masons, Satantic forces, and of course the ever present Illuminati are the provenance of fascist Right and other American patriots. These Right wing nuts live in their own twisted reality in which conpsiratorial and supernatural forces lurk beneath every bed and in every closet. Worse of all, these delusionals also fancy themselves to be the "good guys" who will save humanity by exposing the "truth" which exists only in their own heads.

No wonder people say that America is the Great Satan--a Satan that lives in its own netherworld of occult obsessions and Conservative religious demagoguery.

Responses and Observations 13.Sep.2004 20:43

Bay State Observer

Ladies and gentlemen, permit me some points and comments on this topic.

To "You Need a Shrink": With all due respect, look at yourself when you criticize the "crazed rantings" of those worried over Masonry. They have documentation to back up what they're saying. On the other hand, you seem to rely on emotion-based insults and pro-Socialist jargon as a rebuttal.

That is like attacking a tank with a handful of boiled ramen noodles. Guess who wins?

To "Milo": Many thanks for the documentation, especially from Pike himself. He was a very wicked man.

To "Violet Phoenix": (nice screen name, BTW) please take Milo's words as a charitable response to your concerns.

To "Nebt Khut Mau": Holy Mother Church - not the idiocy we've suffered under since Vatican Two - has had the command from the Savior to preach the Gospel to all nations and baptize them. We are also to defend the Church, giving an answer to all who ask. It is our duty to convert the Earth, no matter how long it takes, to help Jesus save souls from the fate worse than death or poverty --- eternal Hell.

To "Failsafe": There are "conspiracy theories", and there are "conspiracy facts". Regarding Masonry and their influence over the centuries, they are facts, not theories.

To "Anonymous": The Holy Catholic Church has never betrayed the teachings of Jesus -- those who break away from her, or those within her who give grave scandal, are the traitors. The "unseen evil" which you give doubts over is far more real than you perceive. And there have never been "sects of Roman Catholic orthodoxy". There has only been one Church, one orthodoxy, not a multitude.

And finally to all: There is a website based in England called "Freemason Watch", that has greater detail, fact-based detail, regarding this secret society that removes it from the realms of so-called "theory" and "paranoia", placing it in front of us as fact. Do a Yahoo, Google or Webcrawler search for it, and make up your own mind.

Thank you all for your time and attention.

Garbage in - Garbage out. 13.Sep.2004 23:08

Adam Neira moshaich_productions@yahoo.com.au

What a load of absolute rubbish !

Hasn't the author got something better to do with his time ? I suggest he read Maimonides' "Thirteen Articles of Faith."

I have always found it a fascinating aspect of human character that when someone is searching for spiritual sanctuary from their inner demons, they come across a belief system/ideology which they believe is the end of their journey and slump down in a heap. Once they have found this false oasis they usually scream at the top of their voice to anyone and everything that where they have found themselves is where everyone else should be aswell. What they don't realise at the time, is that on the spiritual Mt.Everest, they are only at Base Camp. The view is much better higher up...It really depends on how courageous the climber is after all.

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Balderdash! 14.Sep.2004 10:19

The widow's son.

The allegation that Freemason's are engaged in a worldwide conspiracy and are "ungodly" is simply ludicrous.As a longstanding Freemason,let me say that Freemasonry has over the centuries been a convenient whipping boy for those powerful elements who are afraid of the truth.Freemason's in their Lodges are exhorted to be true and upright men who cherish the "Fatherhood of God" and the "Brotherhood of Man".Freemason's are strictly expected NOT to plot or conspire against the governments of the state within which they reside,to act at all times as law abiding citizens and to help not only a brother Freemason in times of distress, but also humanity at large.No man who does not believe in God can become a Freemason of a regular Lodge of Freemasons.The secrets which Masons through the ages kept to themselves were the ancient secrets of the stone mason's trade,which were scientific and technological.Today,they are mostly the signs or means by which Freemason's recognise each other.Freemason's do not(Harry) Potter around with witchcraft!

As to a worldwide Masonic conspiracy,it is simply hilarious!Any serious student of Masonic history will immediately find that despite the great Masonic principles of "Brotherly Love,Relief and Truth",there are many issues,like "territorial sovereignity","regularity" and others,upon which the various "Grand Lodges" of the world have divergent views,which actually sadly keeps some of them apart.Grand Lodges at times have had "Grand Egos"!Freemason's are not moral superbeings and are as human as anyone else.Their charitable activities are deliberately kept low key,without any fanfare,as they try through their Masonic activities to humbly "build and shape" themselves into becoming better human beings through every moral and social virtue.The "Craft",the word commonly used to describe Masonry,acts as a moral conscience keeper that reminds Freemason's of their duty to God and their fellow human beings.Simply put,to "love God with all your heart and soul and mind and your neighbour as yourself".

Freemasonry and Withcraft 14.Sep.2004 11:06

Milo

FTAO: The Widow's Son

You wrote:

> Freemason's do not(Harry) Potter around with witchcraft!

I disagree. Freemasory, according to Masonic authors, is derived from the Druids:

"The serpent entwined around the egg, was a symbol common to the Indians, the Egyptians, and the Druids. It referred to the creation of the Universe." ("Teaching of the 25 Degree, Knight of the Brazen Serpent" p.496)

Freemasonry does NOT believe that the Universe was created by the God of the Christians. This statement states that the serpent entwined around the egg is a symbol of the creation of the universe! Albert Pike mentioned the Druids in this sentence, above, and other Masons are very forthright in their admission that Freemasonry highly esteems the Druids because their own Mystery Religion is identical to the Druids. Statements that were made by Freemasons:

"... our mode of teaching the principles of our profession [Masonry] is derived from the Druids ... and our chief emblems originally came from Egypt ..." (William Hutchinson, Mason, "The Spirit of Masonry")

Albert Churchward, another Masonic writer, states that Masons are "our present Druids". (Albert Churchward, "Signs and Symbols of Primordial Man: the Evolution of Religious Doctrine from the Eschatology of the Ancient Egyptians", London, England, George Allen and Company, Ltd. 1913, Second Edition, p.189)

Yet another Masonic author, George Oliver, also took note of Freemasonry's connection with the Druids:

"The Druids had a high veneration for the Serpent. Their great god, Hu, was typified by that reptile; and he is represented by the Bards as 'the wonderful chief Dragon, the sovereign of heaven'." (George Oliver, "Signs and Symbols", New York, Macoy Publishing and Masonic Supply Company, 1906, p.36)

"Masons .. admire the Druids and some of them even claim that Masonry came from Druidism. Of course, the Druids were occultic priests, practiced astrology, and offered human sacrifices." Dr. C. Burns, Masonic and Occult Symbols Illustrated, p. 28

To practice the Ancient Religion of the Druids means to carry out the rituals and philosophies of witchcraft.


SERPENT WORSHIP AROUND THE WORLD

Albert Pike also reveals that other Mystery Religions throughout the world worshipped the serpent, in various ways. Let's look at some of the examples) quotes below taken from Morals and Dogma, p. 496-500):

"The Phoenicians represented the God Nomu (Kneph or Amun-Kneph) by a serpent"

"In Egypt, a Sun supported by two asps was the emblem of Horhat the good genius; the serpent with the winged globe was placed over the doors and windows of the Temples as a tutelary God." [Note: "tutelary" means "guardian"] "The portals of the Egyptian Temples are decorated with the hierogram of the Circle and the Serpent"

In ancient Tyre, and India, "a serpent was ... coiled around the trunk of a tree. Python, the Serpent Deity, was esteemed oracular; and the tripod at Delphi was a triple-headed serpent of gold."

The serpent "is found upon the Temple of Naki-Rustan in Persia, on the triubmphal arch at Pechin, in China, over the gates of the great Temple of Chaundi Teeva, in Java; upon the walls of Athens ... The Mexican hierogram was formed by the intersecting of two great Serpents, which described the circle with their bodies, and each a human head in its mouth."

"All the Buddhist crosses in Ireland had serpents carved upon them. Wreaths of snakes are on the columns of the ancient Hindu Temple at Burwah-Sangor."

Yes, all over the World we see the trail of the Serpent and even in the Freemasonry Organization.

Barry Chamish Is A "Jew" That Warns On Evils In Israel 14.Sep.2004 14:00

Concerned About Secret Societies and the NWO

Barry Chamish Is an Israeli "Jew" who reports on NWO and what is going on in Israel. He had written about the evil Shabbateans and their agenda. Check out his articles and you will be surprised about what is really going on. He has his own website with a lot of informative articles:

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British Freemasonry Covet Israel is a good article.  link to search.netscape.com

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British Freemasonry Covets Israel
By Barry Chamish
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Without British Freemasonry there would be no modern state of Israel. In the 1860s, the British-Israelite movement was initiated from within Freemasonry. Its goal was to establish a Jewish-Masonic state in the Turkish province of Palestine. Of course, that would mean dealing with the Turks at some point down the line, but first the country would have to be repopulated with Jews. And the idea wasn't to bring in more of the same religious Jews who already were the majority in Jerusalem and elsewhere, but the kind of Jews who would eventually accept the Masonic view of history.

Initially, British Jewish Masonic families like the Rothschilds and Montefiores provided the capital to build the infrastructure for the anticipated wave of immigration. However, luring the Jews to Israel was proving difficult. They, simply, liked European life too much to abandon it. So Europe was to be turned into a nightmare for the Jews.

This led to the rise of pogroms and Zionism. The leader of Zionism, Theodore Herzl certainly had some British support but he apparently was not thinking in terms of a Masonic state. He died mysteriously in 1905 at the tender age of 43, and the movement fell into British hands under the immoral leadership of one Chaim Weizmann.

Then things began moving quickly. British Masons like Arthur Balfour and Herbert Samuel led the campaign for official British recognition of a Jewish homeland during World War One. At the same time, a million British troops, badly needed in the trenches of Europe, were sent marching to Palestine to oust the Ottomans.

When the war ended, the campaign for a Jewish state went into full speed at Versailles. In 1919, The Royal Institute Of International Affairs was founded in London and two years later, the Council On Foreign Relations began its nefarious activities in New York. Their agendas called for a world governmental takeover and a global religion based in Jerusalem.

So far, so good for the Jews one might think. In fact, the British finagling led straight to the Holocaust, which Mason Winston Churchill refused to prevent or disrupt, right to the next attempt at a Holocaust called the Oslo Peace Accords, which began with a meeting in London in November 1992 between arch-criminals Beilin, Hirshfeld and Pundak and members of the outlawed PLO. Since then, secret meeting after secret meeting have taken place between Israel's "peacemakers" and British Freemasons. The results are there for everyone to see.

The British have turned on Israel, but for reasons very few could even contemplate considering seriously. However, the reasons are deadly serious. What follows is information privy to only the very highest degrees of British Freemasonry and British Royalty. Upon threat of agonizing death, these secrets are to be withheld from the meaningless masses of humanity.

Perhaps only several thousand people in all Britain and Israel are aware that British Freemasonry and Royalty are totally convinced that Jesus was King Of Britain and was stoned to death in London, at Ludgate, the location of St. Paul's Cathedral. This conviction is based on a history many are going to find insulting. Nonetheless, it is vital to understand the thinking that has led to the 20th century slaughter of the Jews and the current attempt to annihilate Israel.

Initiates into the deepest secrets of British Freemasonry are taught that Jesus was born with an identical twin, Judas Thomas. Their mother Mariamne was the granddaughter of King Herod. She was raped by a Roman soldier named Tiberius Julias Abdes Pathera. In his time, Jesus was known as Yeshua Ben Panthera.

The twins had very different personalities. Judas Thomas was violent and irresponsible. He led a revolt of Galileans against the Romans. The Galileans were, in fact, from Gaul, a captured Celtic Roman province with a highly hostile population. Judas Thomas took his revolt to Rome and in his 33rd year was ordered crucified by Pontius Pilate. However, invoking royal Herodian privileges and a large bribe, his uncle Joseph of Arimathea persuaded Pontius to replace Judas Thomas on the cross with another victim. Judas Thomas was sold into slavery and died much later in India.

Jesus, meanwhile took his priestly vows seriously. He was cousin to John the Baptist, the chief Rabbi of the Essenes and second in line to take over the position. With the executions of John and Judas Thomas, Jesus became the chief rabbi of the Essenes.

During much of his youth, Jesus lived in Britain with his uncle Joseph of Armithea, who ran a lucrative tin trading business between Cornwall and Phoenicia. While in Cornwall, Jesus learned the secrets of the Druids, a Celtic religion which was closely allied with the Essenes. Both shared a belief in fraternal love and a strict set of fatal punishments for those who betrayed the mysteries of their faiths. And both demanded a rigorous three stage initiation process for those wishing to be privy to those mysteries.

Jesus was in Rome at the time of his brother's crucifixion. He and his family and followers escaped the city in the wake of the crackdown on Zealots following Judas Thomas's revolt. Most went to Marseilles and from there spread throughout Gaul and Britain. Jesus and his wife fled to Britain.

Yes, wife. According to British Freemasonry, he had four of them. His first, a Nabatean named Cypros produced five children, the most famous being Caradoc, a future king who would fight Rome with savage success.

But it was the second, Mary Magdelene who was even more significant. Her father was an early British Celtic king and she a Celtic princess. Their children and all their descendants produced the British royal lineage. With this marriage, Jesus became a Celtic royal and he was given a suitable new royal name, Jesus Cunobeline.

Shortly after his arrival in Britain, Jesus Cunobeline and his family were given royal jurisdiction over a huge tract of land in southern Wales. It is for this reason that the Prince Of Wales is considered a direct anscestor of the first king of modern Wales, Jesus Cunobeline, with privileges that extend to all of Judaism and Israel.

Just before Emperor Claudius attacked Britain, Jesus abdicated his crown to his son Caradoc, who defeated the Romans at every turn. But through trickery, he and his father, Jesus Cunobeline were captured and shipped in shackles to Rome. Caradoc appealed to the Roman Senate for clemency and was granted it on condition that Britain never fought Rome on its soil again. He accepted the proviso and he and his entourage were given a palace of their own. Jesus lived there for seven years.

Then he sailed to Egypt to learn the secrets of the Egyptian mystery schools. He was an honored student and soaked in the secret handshakes, cryptic messages and graduated revelations. The Christianity of Jesus became Freemasonry.

Jesus wanted to share his new complete Essene/Druidic/Essene religion and that proved his undoing. He was stoned to death in London, aged 63, for betraying his vows and revealing the secrets of the mystery schools.

However, back in Rome, presbyters had combined the lives of Jesus and Judas Thomas to create a rapidly growing religion. The British-born Roman emperor Constantine of York, a direct descendant of Jesus, and his mother Helena saw a great advantage in spreading a publicly accepted story of Jesus to create unity in the empire, while keeping the true story alive amongst the most trusted of British royalty and their closest allies.

Constantine gathered a British army and smashed his way to Rome. Shortly after, in 330, he convened a conference of presbyters in Nicaea to unify Christianity. Final gospels were voted on and a New Testament created. But to assure that his empire's newly official religion never forgot the Israelite roots of Jesus and the British royal line, Constantine tacked the Jewish scriptures onto the New Testament.

As far as British freemasonry is concerned, they are both the true Jews and true Christians. This, they reason, is the right that comes with knowing the secret truth of Jesus.

And when they re-created Israel in their distorted image, the Freemasons had no room in the country for those Jews they considered deluded. Through Chaim Weizmann, they eliminated religious Jews and patriotic Jews from the Zionist movement. They were condemned to die in Europe.

Those who did arrive in Israel were thoroughly inculcated in socialist, secular, occultic values. Israel was to be transformed into a Masonic Jewish state ruled by their rightful leaders, the Freemasons of Britain.

But something unexpected happened during the 1930s. The religious Jews, both of Israel and Eastern Europe, rejected this peculiar Zionism as a foreign growth on G-d's intended Judaism. And non-religious, but patriotic Jews led by the likes of Jabotinsky, Begin and Shamir fought to expel the British from their land. And they fought so well that the British ordered their Jewish Masons like Teddy Kollek (33rd degree) and Yitzhak Rabin (32nd degree) to betray their fellow Jews and turn them over to the British or to murder them outright.

The British Freemasons and their Jewish quislings managed to do the bidding of the British, to the point of joining them in an attack of Egypt in 1956. There was still hope that a British Freemasonic Israel could yet be created by the Ben Gurions, Weizmanns and Dayans they had placed in power. But in 1977, all illusions were smashed by the election of Menachem Begin as prime minister. Since then, Britain has declared a covert war against an Israel that turned to G-d and Jewish patriotism instead of rule by Masonry. The Oslo process begun in London in November, 1992, was their ultimate revenge.



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Beware Mitzneh

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Finally, In Hebrew, the Rabin Documents

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David Orbach's song Who Murdered Yitzhak Rabin, has a new fan. Look at the lyrics to the song followed by Ariel Sharon's letter in response to hearing it:

Who Killed Yitshak Rabin Words and music by David Orbach

Who killed Yitshak Rabin? And Oh my G-d why did he go to Heaven? Its not me said Bill Clinton to Monica Levinsky Its true the Chief of the CIA George Bush killed a Mossad Agent In order to continue to sell weapons to Iran and to finance the Contra in Nicaragua But its not the CIA who killed Yitshak Rabin its the French I didn't want to kill Yitshak Oh please don't kill me Who killed Yitshak Rabin? And Oh my G-d why did he go to Heaven?

Its not me said Jacques Chirac Yes its true when I was P.M. I sold French planes and missiles and a nuclear plant to Adolf Adolf Saddam Hussein Who gave antrax to Ossama Ben Laden But its not me who organized the evening when Yitshak Rabin was killed Its the radio director of Europe no. 1 Jean Frydman I didn't want to kill Yitshak Oh please don't kill me Who killed Yitshak Rabin? And Oh my G-d why did he go to Heaven?

Its not me said the Mayor of Jerusalem Its true I organized all the demonstrations At the Municipality of Jerusalem and it was written on the Placards: Death to Rabin Its true I stabbed Bibi in the back when I said Barak will be better than Bibi But you know its the law of democracy the law of sodomocracy I didn't want to kill Yitshak Oh please don't kill me Who killed Yitshak Rabin? And Oh my G-d why did he go to Heaven?

Its not me said Carmi Gilon in his golden exile in Denmark Its true that three months beforehand I received written information that a law student from Herzelya wants to kill the Prime Minister and I did nothing to prevent it to arrest him on the contrary I helped him They never understood that it ain't no good to take so long to bring Yitshak to Dr. Barabach and Dr. Hiss through King Shaul Blvd. Yes Yitshak went to Heaven like King Shaul I didn't want to kill Yitshak Oh please don't kill me Who killed Yitshak Rabin? And Oh my G-d why did he go to Heaven? I didn't really want to kill Yitshak said Yigal ben Geula I just wanted to stop Oslo the Scandinavian pirates I never understood why they ordered an agent to film the whole scene from the roof They knew that I was going to try something I felt in a trap But I swear I used my right hand and not the left hand like they showed on the falsified video I was just a messenger of G-d Oh please don't kill me Who killed Yitshak Rabin? And Oh my G-d why did he go to Heaven?

Its not us said Shimon Peres and Yossi Belin Its true we began the conspiracy against the President of the State Ezer Weizman You know when Peres wanted to be President instead of Weitzman Its true we blackmailed Rabbi Arye Deri to be sure that Shas would sign Oslo Its true we used the same methods as the Mafia But you know there are people who think Yitshak Rabin was a kind of Messiah Like King Shaul Mashiach Ben Yosef, Mashiach Ben Yosef The Messiah is coming, The Messiah is on the phone.



Dear David and Rachael,

My best wishes and my blessing at the occasion of your son's birth. I regret that I won't be able to participate in the Brit Milah. I wish you lots of simcha and nachat. Thank you very much for your disc I like your music very much especially the poem about the creation of a Kurdistan State in Northern Iraq and a Palestinian State capital Bagdad. I like also the song about Yitshak Rabin.

I bless you,

Ariel Sharon



No, this letter is not a forgery. Prime Minister Sharon actually wrote it. Short of saying he is humming it in the shower, this is quite a plug.



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What a lot of crap!!!! 16.Sep.2004 21:27

Avdeel N Altalef

The only thing that I think I have to say is: The writer of this article is not Jewish is from that stupid christian evangelical originated sect the so called Mesianic Jews or Jews for Jesus!
Read really originated on Jewish Faith Information and you will know that all tha this creazy guy has to say is ridiculos, a shame and dirty lies!
The Jewish State is that and at the same time democratic the Jewish faith do not believe or spects for world domination! The only one that has domain over the World is God! We just want to rebuild our mother land that historicaly belongs to us and was the kingdom of Israel Now is the Nation of Israel! It does not matter who gets upset with that! It is the truth and we will keep waiting until Gof and his real Mesiah rebuild the holly temple! Not Just for us but for all the Humanity!!! Shame on this false acusations!

We are gona conker the F World! 16.Sep.2004 21:47

Darth Vader!

We the Sith in colavoration with the Jews and the Massons and the Illuminati are together in all this!!!! Yeah we are gonna coker the world and we planed to build massons like buildings all over your bloody planet and only the jews the massons and the Illuminaty will have free entrance to the buildings where we aro gonna teach them the atrth of been Sith!!!!! Then all together are gonna take the galaxi! Kill all the jedais but mostly we are gonna go after the guy that wrote this big amount of nonsence and not Even his Yeshua is gonna help him cause he is also with us; You know why??? Cause Jesus was also Jewish and he use to live in Israel before he died and guess what he also use to go to pray to the temple of Jerusalem!!!! I forgot to mention that also the Grey nation, the transformers, the predators and aliens are with us!!!! yeah and we are gonna conker the world thanx to the help of Idiots like this Evangelical clown so called Jew for Jesus! Antisemitic pigggg!!!!!

How Does He Remember to Breathe? 18.Sep.2004 03:37

Me

This "Darth Vader" character is so visibly unintelligent (to put it nicely) it's a wonder he can even remember to breathe. He obviously flunked out of grade school and avoided any higher education because of an intense hatred of knowledge. Now that he is grown (in physical stature at least), he realizes the need for knowledge, but mistakes the watching of countless movies for the pursuit of it. Finally realizing he's completely missed out on what's going on in the world around him, he refuses to accept or admit it for fear of appearing to be unsophisticated. Knowledge is power, and he's so frustrated with his lack of it that he strikes out at those who do possess it with fierce misspellings and razor sharp ramblings, interwoven of course with the usual profane expostulations that so typify the vocabularily challenged. And as is usual with this example of certain lewd fellows of the baser sort, he makes a final desperate attempt at some sort of acceptance in society by adopting a socialist outlook on life. Of course this is inevitable, because with his complete inability to produce or create anything, that is the only pseudo-philosphy that will allow him to acquire any sort of decent existence while he wades through the darkness of being that is his life in fearful expectance of his inevitable death and the terror of hurdling headlong into an eternity of torment and suffering resulting from his aversion to knowledge. I really feel sorry for him, although, if he somehow manages to figure out what a dictionary is (and more importantly how to use it) and read this assessment of his pitiful and miserable life, he will undoubtedly launch back at me with an assult of the same unintelligeable sort of waste material that caused me to write this in the first place, thus proving beyond a shadow of doubt that I am absolutely correct. On the other hand, there is the merest chance that he may recognize that a mirror to his soul has been graciously provided to him to give him the opportunity to pick himself up and fling himself out of the maelstrom that is currently engulfing him and flushing him down the proverbial toilet. I pity him, and hope the best for him despite the odds.

Evil 18.Sep.2004 11:56

SpaceMonk

"Here it is very important to count the steps; there are three sets of 10 steps, making a total of 30. As you ascend these 30 steps you come from the darkness into the light."

What have you got against light?

"There are five Courtrooms, each has an entrance in the shape of a Jewish Tomb [15], with the opening above the door for the spirit to have freedom to enter or leave."

...because Spirits need holes in the walls to get through - otherwise they're stuck and, you know, that would be really boring.

"The wall with the courtroom entrances has a [Gnostic?] curve to it, while the outer wall is straight. There are two things said about his, some say it speaks to the straight line of Justice, and the curve line of Mercy, yet others say it speaks of order out of chaos."

A Gnostic curve! - How terrible!

Justice? Mercy? - How diabolical! People, we must stop such evil!

Order out of Chaos? - Oh! The horror!

I hope you evil-seekers also noticed the blatant use of the name 'Golden' by this author!!!
It is obviously super secret mystical symbolism, audaciously referring to the return of the 'Golden Age' that will rise like a phoenix from the doom of civilisation.

Beware this group called 'Christianity' who are secretly planning a New World Order where theirs will be the only Religion
- and all who don't worship their Lord Jesus will be eliminated for the greater good!

Submit to Jesus!
He's bigger and tougher than you, so do what He say's - or else!!

If only you knew what it will be like in Heavenly Paradise! No longer will you be burdened by Freewill, but will instead become a mindless worship-bot feeding the ego of the Supreme Dictator Tyrant.
Ignorance is Bliss.

WORLD SUPREME COURT ALREADY COMPLETE 19.Sep.2004 23:42

repost

The important bit of a longer article, which is placed below. Here is what these groups planned to do with this building based on their 1960s statements, this building with a huge Masonic pyramid in the 'holy of holies' as a substitute for God in a Jewish temple arrangement, where 33 levels from darkeness to light take you to where only retired judges have a non-public worship area near the pyramid base level....

If this fails to scream occult hegemony to you, these attempts of undemocratic occult elites to plan destinies of whole 'states', you are completely attached to delusion.




WORLD SUPREME COURT ALREADY COMPLETE


In 1962, Look Magazine asked leading personalities to envisage the world 25 years hence in 1987. Israeli Prime Minister David Ben Gurion had the advantage of knowing the blueprint of the future. He worked for Rothschild.

He predicted that by 1987 "the Cold War will be a thing of the past" and there will be a "gradual democratization of the Soviet Union." Western and Eastern Europe will become a "federation of autonomous states." All "other continents will be united in a world alliance, at whose disposal will be an international police force. All armies will be abolished and there will be no more wars."

He continues: "In Jerusalem, the United Nations will build a Shrine of the Prophets to serve the federated union of all continents; this will be the scene of the Supreme Court of Mankind, to settle all controversies among the federated continents, as prophesied by Isaiah."


The new Israeli Supreme Court looks like it was intended to be the Supreme Court of Mankind. It was designed, built and paid for by the Rothschilds. It is full of Masonic references and symbols. Many authorities believe Freemasonry is Judaism for gentiles.

In his article "Roots of Evil in Jerusalem," Jerry Golden describes the Masonic pyramid on the roof of the building. "As we turn to the left and begin to walk towards the Pyramid we notice a metal strip in the marble floor. The Ley-Lines cross directly under the pyramid; they run from this place to different places in the city. It is where the Judges and others can stand to receive knowledge and power. [They will be] standing directly over a piece of crystal with the All Seeing Eye of Lucifer the light bearer above them.

"For those who are not aware of the term Ley-Lines, it is lines in geographical places that Witches, Warlock, and Wizards walk claiming for the Devil. If you will notice in every large city all palm readers and such are usually on the same street that is a ley-line."

In another article, Golden says most Israeli politicians and Supreme Court judges are freemasons belonging to the Mizraim Lodge,...

"Anti Semitism" is really opposition to the illuminist program of world domination. Many Jews have been duped by "anti Semitism" [and false claims of a] national homeland (Zionism.) The secret aim of these Jewish dominated movements is to destabilize society and advance Illuminist world government. Neo Conservatism is another.

Jews have been sacrificed and may be sacrificed again. It's time we "lesser brethren" disassociated from organized Jewry, which is run by this evil cabal. It's time we started new organizations that reflect our real interests.









Americans are Rothschild Proxies in Iraq
By Henry Makow Ph.D.
March 14, 2004


Americans are serving alien interests and values in Iraq.

They are advancing the Rothschilds' program of world dictatorship as outlined in The Protocols of the Elders of Zion. These Lucifer-loving bankers and their confederates would like you to believe the Protocols is a forgery. It is not. It is the blueprint of the new world order unfolding before our eyes.

The major wars of the Twentieth Century were all fought to advance this plan for elitist tyranny.

For example, U.S participation in World War One, which cost 300,000 US dead and wounded, was a quid pro quo between World Zionism and the British government.

In 1916, the British were facing defeat and desperately needed US help. The Zionists promised to deliver American muscle in exchange for the 1917 Balfour Declaration that promised a Zionist state in Palestine.

Leon de Poncins, in State Secrets (1975), cites a well-known English Zionist who was privy to the negotiations.

Samuel Landman was editor of The Zionist and Secretary of the Zionist Council of the United Kingdom. His book, Great Britain, The Jews and Palestine (1936), published under the auspices of the Zionist Association, was intended to remind Britain of her obligations.

Landman writes that the only way to induce Woodrow Wilson to enter the war in 1917 was "to enlist and mobilize the hitherto unsuspectedly powerful forces of Zionist Jews in America and elsewhere in favour of the Allies on a quid pro quo contract basis.... The Balfour Declaration of 1917 was but the public confirmation of a necessarily secret 'gentleman's' agreement of 1916 ... and not merely a voluntary, altruistic and romantic gesture on the part of Great Britain..." (Leon de Poncins, p.13, emphasis mine)

De Poncins also cites Prof. H.M.V. Temperley: "The Balfour Declaration was a definite contract between the British government and [organized] Jewry." (History of the Peace Conference in Paris, vol. 6, p. 173)

If Germany had not lost World War One, there would have been no Hitler, no Second World War, no holocaust and no Israel. See also "The Crime Called World War I."

How did the Zionists have this power? US President Woodrow Wilson was the puppet of Rothschild agent Edward House. The Balfour Declaration took the form of a letter addressed to none other than Lord Lionel Rothschild.

From the start, Israel was the Rothschilds' personal project. It was never needed as a homeland for the Jews. Along with Communism, it was a pincer in the Rothschilds' megalomaniac vision of a world state ruled by them and dedicated to Lucifer. They use their control over US government credit to finance Israel, which is the future world capital. Americans are dying in Iraq to advance this agenda.


WORLD SUPREME COURT ALREADY COMPLETE


In 1962, Look Magazine asked leading personalities to envisage the world 25 years hence in 1987. Israeli Prime Minister David Ben Gurion had the advantage of knowing the blueprint of the future. He worked for Rothschild.

He predicted that by 1987 "the Cold War will be a thing of the past" and there will be a "gradual democratization of the Soviet Union." Western and Eastern Europe will become a "federation of autonomous states." All "other continents will be united in a world alliance, at whose disposal will be an international police force. All armies will be abolished and there will be no more wars."

He continues: "In Jerusalem, the United Nations will build a Shrine of the Prophets to serve the federated union of all continents; this will be the scene of the Supreme Court of Mankind, to settle all controversies among the federated continents, as prophesied by Isaiah."


The new Israeli Supreme Court looks like it was intended to be the Supreme Court of Mankind. It was designed, built and paid for by the Rothschilds. It is full of Masonic references and symbols. Many authorities believe Freemasonry is Judaism for gentiles.

In his article "Roots of Evil in Jerusalem," Jerry Golden describes the Masonic pyramid on the roof of the building. "As we turn to the left and begin to walk towards the Pyramid we notice a metal strip in the marble floor. The Ley-Lines cross directly under the pyramid; they run from this place to different places in the city. It is where the Judges and others can stand to receive knowledge and power. [They will be] standing directly over a piece of crystal with the All Seeing Eye of Lucifer the light bearer above them.

"For those who are not aware of the term Ley-Lines, it is lines in geographical places that Witches, Warlock, and Wizards walk claiming for the Devil. If you will notice in every large city all palm readers and such are usually on the same street that is a ley-line."

In another article, Golden says most Israeli politicians and Supreme Court judges are freemasons belonging to the Mizraim Lodge, "the ones who wrote the Protocols of Zion, the enemies of the Jewish people." He says they are the "heart and soul of the Synagogue of Satan" i.e. the Illuminati. He concludes "those who planned the destruction of Israel are now in control, in Israel." [sorry, I would discount that jump in logic--check out Jim Marrs's book _Rule by Secrecy_ as the best analysis of the history of this text--it's hardly what it has been made out to in the public eye; & I would check out  http://emperors-clothes.com/antisem/protocols-1.htm for a view that adds a bit more; though the book is the first recommendation as the web page is only has half the information.]


CONCLUSIONS


The Rothschild-led banking monopoly has deflected and marginalized opposition by characterizing it as anti Semitic. "Anti Semitism" is really opposition to the illuminist program of world domination. Many Jews have been duped by "anti Semitism" and images of "social justice" (Communism, Socialism, Liberalism, Feminism) and a national homeland (Zionism.) The secret aim of these Jewish dominated movements is to destabilize society and advance Illuminist world government. Neo Conservatism is another.

Jews have been sacrificed and may be sacrificed again. It's time we "lesser brethren" disassociated from organized Jewry, which is run by this evil cabal. It's time we started new organizations that reflect our real interests.

The 200,000 plus American soldiers in the Middle East and Afghanistan are part of the "international police force" mentioned by Ben Gurion. They are New World Order enforcers sent to eliminate Sadaam Hussein because he gave the Muslims backbone. Recently they removed President Jean Bertrand Aristide because he also defied the bankers.

George W and his cronies are paid off with a share of the Iraq boondoggle. His father is a major investor in the Carlyle Group, defence contractors.

Americans must ask how long they will continue to be proxies. More than 500 young men and women have died and 10,000 have been wounded in Iraq. How long will Americans collaborate in their own destruction? .

The world's major intelligence services serve this banking elite. I suspect the Mossad and CIA are responsible for the unprecedented attack on the US Sept 11. The Mossad may be behind the terrorist attack in Spain last Thursday, exactly 911 days after Sept. 11.

Al Queda is probably controlled by the Mossad-CIA. People now call it "Al CIA-duh"

It is unacceptable that no one has been held responsible for allowing Sept. 11 to occur. George Bush should have resigned for this failure, if not treason.

The cabal has a modus operandi from which it never deviates. It sponsors both sides of every issue or war in order to grind the population down and control the outcome.

In the "War on Terror" we will be crushed between the so-called "terrorists" and the forces of "homeland security". The result will be world dictatorship, which we will welcome as respite from the "terror".

Democracy is a sham. It is unacceptable that men who hold public office should belong to any secret society. Both Bush and Kerry belong to the Illuminati "Skull and Bones." They belong to the elite cabal that is behind the terror on Sept. 11. It is unlikely that Kerry who is pro-Israel and funded by Goldman Sachs, is against the Iraq war, "the War on Terror" and the cynically named "Patriot Act."

The United States has served as proxies for the Illuminist bankers long enough. Americans don't want their world dictatorship. It's time Americans stopped being patsies.

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See also Sweet Liberty.org (not a blanket endorsement)

Is the Conspiracy Jewish?" A Review of Douglas Reed's The Controversy of Zion


 http://www.savethemales.ca/000357.html [hardly a blanket endorcement either, this only had something of value about possible rationales for this building based on their documented 1960s expectations.]
only the willingly blind fear to see huge occult forces in play in past 200 yrs.
only the willingly blind fear to see huge occult forces in play in past 200 yrs.

Holier than Thou 20.Sep.2004 07:57

SpaceMonk

I don't see much difference between an Illuminati desire for a One World Government in the name of Lucifer, and a Christian desire for a One World Government in the name of Jesus.

Both will abolish all other religions, both will exterminate all opposition, both will end up with no armies and no wars, both will have a rebuilt temple and a Supreme Ruler of Mankind.
It seems they both want the same thing, they just don't want the other guys to have it instead - but the ends doesn't justify the means.

Anyway they both seem to be focused on worshipping the same mythical character - and neither of them is actually referring to 'Satan':

The name 'Lucifer' should never be used to refer to Satan. It is a Latin name meaning 'Light Bringer', from the Latin words Lucius Ferrus.
The only place in the bible this name is used is a mis-translation that threw a single Latin word into the middle of a passage written before Latin was even invented.

The verse: Isaiah 14:12 "How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!"

Most other translations than the KJV translate it 'Day Star' or 'Morning Star'.

The Morning Star is Venus, called in ancient Latin, 'Lucius Ferrus', the 'Light Bringer' because it is the first light of the new day, just as the verse says.
Somehow this name has been attached to Satan, when the context of the rest of the passage is actually referring to the then King of Babylon.

Now, Revelation 22:16 says "I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star."

So Lucifer is the Morning Star, and Jesus is the Morning Star, and neither of them is 'Satan'.

The problem with paranoid End-times Christians is they equate Lucifer, Satan, the Occult and the 'New Age' as all being the same thing, labelling it 'Satanic' - just because it isn't 'Biblical'.

The word 'Occult' is just another Latin word and simply means 'Hidden'.
So, yes, there are mysteries, but not all secrets involve ritual sacrifice and eating babies, and worshipping a Satanic Prince of 'Darkness', etc.
Most of them are about en-Light-enment and knowledge and wisdom. All positive things No?
Maybe if Christians took time to think about it (esoterically?) they might realise that taking sides is pointless when such things as Good and Evil and Justice and Judgement are all invented concepts that are meaningless to our eternal spirit - that life is just a game, and death is just the same.

But Why so much bother in an already tense area 27.Sep.2004 07:49

PaddyPower

Spacemonk, surely there has to be a motive in inserting a "3rd parties" symbols into what the two major world religions consider their home, and a pretty darm elusive 3rd party at that. I think Hicks said it best, "Nuke the feker from Orbit" and stop interupting my TV schedule ;)

DELUSION THE CRAFT OF DECEIT PERCIEVED OR INFERED 06.Oct.2004 08:30

JRGREAT

My compliments to the majority of the authors its been an informative read.
However, I must add my perspective on the article in debate. Zecharia Stichen I believe would be an excellent read for many whom enlightened me on their perspective! Lets suppose for a moment that the Zionist Protocols are in fact the plan of yesterday, today and tomorrow for the NWO. Let us also take into account the pawns, movers and shakers of the game.

CFR, UN, FED, IMF, NATO, controllers of the economy, heads of individual States (puppet or not) they're military structures which include all sources of Intel and secret groups that is a combined power no one nation can overcome. With history being what it has been one can only conclude it has not been by coincidence. An open conspiracy I would surmise. So how can it be a conspiracy if its plan is in the open? I know the intellect of this most learned group knows the answer to an easy riddle. I shall indulge myself, because the puppeteers are not known. We may have what most would consider proof however; in the court of law it is only supposition. With regards to the illuminati, free masons, Jesuits and countless others down the tier, knowledge is power and exclusiveness of knowledge maintains a smaller circle of power, control and privileged. Not wanting to elaborate on much of what is already known I will be brief with my premiss towards the thread of thought in the majority of your post. There are levels in every group, which are compartmentalized for purpose and effect. Some levels are for distraction to maintain integrity of the core (upper levels) with piecemeal enlightenment at each level to keep the outer screen hungry for more. This intern maintains an outer perimeter of integrity bound by exclusivity. Some or most will never go higher than their present level. For the majority the network and fraternity suffice along with the deluded pagentry and symbolism. The symbolism serves as an open forum of communication known to those with in and also as a gage that measures the integrity of security. Rivalery must be tempered so as to keep the inquisitive at bay. A balance must be maintained so more control can be had with out the masses becoming aware that they soon will have no control and the knowledge they have is only what the core group wants them to have. I have seen this through history and my personal experience. Each secret society again acts as a tier of the defense. The blueprint at times will not go as planed when fighting within the core. That is what we are witnessing now so removal of the troublemakers and plugging of the leaks has begun. It has shown it self in ways that disrupt the plan for the masses. Hence, the plan is perpetuated with deliberate speed (IRAQ, 911, 311, OK city, Flt 800, etc).
As to whom the core is again no solid proof however, follow the money will certainly get one closer to the marc and that would be those whom claim to be Jew. We have been controlled and conditioned before the beginning Dog and Bell, Mazlow , the boob toob, and the alphabet soup of news. If "as Zecharia Sitchin believes" our creation was for the purpose of a slave with an intellectual nature we have revolted hence need to be bought back under control of our benevolent creator. Lets suppose our creator was actually a scientific group with a supreme scientific god and their creation "us" surpassed their expectation by combining the god DNA with the Human DNA test tube humans that had cognitive ability and the power to multiply. Though not equal to our creator in ability development over time would only makes us more like our creator hence slavery soon becomes an unacceptable lot in life. Control needs to be PSY and conditioning of material/Spiritual. Needs and wants to be attained via a medium of trade/commerce now we can be brought back under control by implementing and controlling the aforementioned. But, the creation has procreated exponentially and it will require more of the creator's time there by enslaving him to us. This is unacceptable to the Scientific Cabal. Enlighten a few to reduce the populace and reign in control with out much effort. But not all Scientist gods agree with the plan and there is dissention in the ranks with opposing plans. A condensed version of the Zecharia Sitchin.
I beleive there are to many scientific historical proofs to his research for this not to be correct. The cradle of civilization, Star charts in the pyramids that are only now found to be perfect maps of the galaxy and historical documents with writings and stories of gods of flight. Things that make ya go Hmmmm? Well I wouldn't go as far as a creation of ET are we, but then again how do you explain the many ethnic groups of the earth? What about the Nephlem?
Religion is control and why so many different ones with fanatical concepts?
Yes I believe in a creator. My nature is not to be cruel to my fellow man but do not tread on me. To live well is what I want and I wish you the same I'll give to you most of the time if your in need but do not burden me because you are lazy. Feed a man a fish feed him for a day teach a man to fish feed him for life. Why are we bombarded with shit we just have no use for and that which we need (knowledge) is kept at bay? With all the money that is given to the poor we could have educated them to help them selves. Why has this not been done? Make 75% of what's shown on the boob toob educational with the same vigor and gusto that goes into a promo! Why are families kept apart due to having to have 3 jobs in the family (wife one and husband 2) just to have a home and essentials? Why tax burden on the rich to feed the poor? Divide and conquer starts with the family. The public education system is deplorable. Education is defacto parenting that's bad. Orwell 1984.
So what is one to do? Hold on because the ride gets faster, hotter and unbearable. Prepare for heavy rolls the sea is going to get turbulent. Pray to your god if it gives you solace and comfort your family. I believe most of what's in the KJV and if the future is what it says to be I'm in for a rough ride. Between the NWO, earth changes (floods, quakes, famines, pestilence, drought and wars) over the next 2556 days +- 10% I can only survive. Is it the end time's evidence presented suggests it is! Prepare for the worst hope for the best! Best of luck.

Sad 22.Oct.2004 16:13

I Luv a Conspiracy

Sorry, but this is a disppointment. I love a good conspiracy, and while obessive attention to minutae is the hallmark of any good paranoid, the results of all this effort is simply too slim to revel in. I give it a 5 out of 10 on the Kozinski Scale - there is nothing here that a 14-day regime of Haldol couldn't make go away. A variation on Christian-apocalytic-satanic theory without staying-power.

Too bad.

another Masonic themed capital: detailed book on Washington DC 31.Oct.2004 20:04

related

The Secret Architecture of Our Nation's Capital: The Masons and the Building of Washington, D.C.
by David Ovason

 link to www.amazon.com

In this audacious, erudite study, Ovason (The Secrets of Nostradamus) sets out to prove that Washington, D.C., was designed and built largely by Masonic architects--and that they imprinted the beliefs of their brotherhood on the city's layout. Benjamin Franklin, architect James Hoban (who designed the White House), Presidents Garfield and Polk and Statue of Liberty sculptor Frederic Bartholdi were all Masons. Indeed, when President George Washington laid the cornerstone of the Capitol building in 1793, he wore a Masonic apron adorned with occult Masonic symbols and an image of the zodiac.

And although textbooks teach that the federal city was the brainchild of French engineer Pierre-Charles L'Enfant, Ovason argues that Washington, Jefferson, U.S. Surveyor General Andrew Ellicott and others--many of them Masons--substantially modified L'Enfant's original blueprint.

As a result, Masonic symbolism appears in the marble, plaster, concrete, glass and paint facades of the Federal Reserve, the Library of Congress and other landmarks.

This book, the result of a decade of thought and research, establishes the plausibility of Ovason's theory. However, the volume--a labyrinthine, illustrated tome--also contains a good deal of [juicy!] wild speculation.

...

This ambitious work looks at the Capitol, the Washington Monument, city planning, and the numerous zodiacs located throughout the city.

...

This is a great source for a lot of information I've read in bits and pieces in other books. It is well researched and written. Although it does miss some information, it supplies enough to definately illustrate that there was a plan behind the design of Washington, DC. And you don't have to believe in astrology (I don't and I don't believe the author does) to find this book interesting. You just have to understand that the city planners did, or at least found some spiritual sigificance in the imagery of astrology.

...

If you were to choose to read only one book dealing with the Masons and their involvement in the founding of America's national government, then choose this one. For at last, the secret is out. No, not the Masonic secret (if there may happen to be only but one); as a Mason will never admit to any secrets if such an admission hints at the acknowledgement of anything of a political nature; a Mason will never admit anything that may smack of the "covert". How so? Evidence?

First read the Forward by C. Fred Kleinknecht, 33rd degree, Sovereign Grand Commander, The Supreme Council at the Masons' global head office in Washington, DC. Quote: "David Ovason discovered what MAY be Masonic influences in the architecture and layout of the city." Unquote.

You see. This member of the elite within the Masonic fraternity writes "MAY be" in his soft endorsement of the thesis of the book; he is neither disavowing nor confirming Ovason's thesis, which thesis is adequately summarized in some of the previous reviews of this book here in Amazon.

An elite Mason has chosen to write a preface in implicit acknowledgment of the truth of the book's thesis, while leaving to journeymen Masons worldwide the task of trashing the book's thesis (as many have already since its publication in England in 1999).

So given the foregoing, what better recommendation might a reviewer make in insisting that this book is a piece of truthful real history.

Chapter Five is particularly intriguing as it summarizes the history of the events surrounding the making of the American Declaration of Independence. To do this so well, Ovason has mastered not only conventional historical narrative, but the astronomical and astrological aspects as well.

...

It's generally well known that many of the Founding Fathers were Masons. Ovason presents convincing evidence that Masonic symbolism is hard-wired into the layout of our nation's capital.

To do so, he reviews the beginnings of the city: Washington's selection of this site for the new nation's capital, the design competitions, the building projects. Having lived in DC at one time, this alone made the book worthwhile. Ovason then overlays the city with all the astrological symbolism that can be found around the district. Some of it is in the open and is plain for all to see. Other things are hidden. Better yet, alignments between zodiacal symbols have meanings and the author careful spells it all out.

I won't give away the complete story, but Ovason has discovered something in the layout of Constitution Avenue, Pennsylvania Avenue and the Old Post Office that locks heaven and earth together and gives literally concrete meaning to celestial symbology.

Washington is the New Rome, and our Founding Fathers carefully imprinted their hopes for the future in the very streets of the city.

You'll never look at Washington, DC the same way ever again.



The Secret Architecture of Our Nation's Capital: The Masons and the Building of Washington, D.C.
by David Ovason

 link to www.amazon.com

A Must 4 Masons World>WIde 05.Nov.2004 11:24

RAF spacemasons@msn.com

This web is included in the

 http://masons.start4all.com

A Must 4 Masons WorldWide

RAF


instead of invert cross, Templar Cross (the origins of Masonry in Templars) 19.Nov.2004 21:44

more suggestive interpretation

quote:

"2 - Invert Cross: the only cross here, & you trample on it, w/ Muslim gravesite"


The 'invert cross' looks more like a Templar Cross!
Which makes a hell of a lot of sense if you know the origins and motivations of the original Templars:

Second Messiah: Templars, the Turin Shroud and the Great Secret of Freemasonry by Christopher Knight, Robert Lomas (Paperback)
 link to www.amazon.com

The Lost Treasure of the Knights Templar: Solving the Oak Island Mystery by Steven Sora
 link to www.amazon.com

Cross 05.Dec.2004 22:27

Rick1011

The Cross is a death symbol. An Inverted cross is a position against death.

Mystery of Iniquity Revealed 24.Feb.2005 12:00

Emet (TRUTH)

This is the truth, though hard to figure it could be. The Bible is true, there is no salvation in any other than Yahoshua HaMaschiach. From the beginning of time, there has been seeds of men, some of beast, and some of Israel/Judah. Jeremiah 31:27
The seed of men are coming to a crescendo, the occultics know it, the Christians bury their heads in the sand under the guise of a false love doctrine, and the Catholics have always known it.Jews because of rejecting the Messiah who came to die for the seed curse of satan in the garden, have tried to set up a nation that is only going to fail. Sukkot 52A of the Talmud tells us about this Messiah. Yahoshua did not come to set up an earthly kingdom, he came to reverse the curse that causes mankind to be evil. Evil only appears as if it will win, Maschiach ben David will come and He alone will solve the Middle East Conflict, it is not a fight between men. It is a fight over the souls of men, who are posessed to set themselves up as gods. They know they are descendants of the ancient nephilim and are proud to boast their numerics and symbology, decieving man into thinking it is about the true God.
Please heed the call to get under the blood's atonement, or you will soon face the wrath of God. The real ONE. It is soooo sad that these people have trampled their evil upon the Holy Nation. We can only rest in the assurance that the true Messiah who came first to redeem, will come again and cause mankind to live out the Torah of the Lord, which are the laws of the universe. No Israeli Supreme Court will ever be able to do what He will and may it be soon and even in our days.

Reversed Cross and TEMPLARs 20.Apr.2005 08:53

Space Monkey! YetiUprising@yahoo.com

Wasn't one of the apostles crucifixified on an upsidedown cross, due to, i believe, his own request not to be martytized in the same manner as the savior (as that wouldnt be kosher). I mean, Im sure thats made up, but maybe all those crazy satanists (they must exist somewhere) are really just way into that one apostle. Paul? I dunno. Cant remember.

Interesting that; the whole Cross being a symbol of Death sometimes and Life sometimes. According to who you talk to. The Egyptian cross, or Ankh i think is supposed to be about fertility (male and female?). And then there's the peace symbol with the "upsidedown broken cross" or according to Nordic-Nazi symbol fetishists the inverted tree Yggdrasil which would symbolize death in that form (it appears next to the death date on SS graves, thus making the peace sign symbolize death too!!!!?!?!?!). You can see how this sort of vaguery connects to "proof" of Marx's plot to hypnotize sixties youth into pushing for nuclear disarmament (you think I'm exagerating). And then when the good ol USA gets rid of its Nukes the ZOG whips out its secret stash and kills everyone oh on!!!

Oh, and a note about the Templars. Supposedly in their rituals "initiates" had to step on and spit on the cross (supposedly this ritual was adopted by the Masons) thus being all satanicy. Of course, anyone who's anyone knows the Knights O the templar were super christian, so what's the deal? Apparently one theory is that they did this to simulate the kind of heretical actions they would be forced to perform if captured by the enemy. I dont know if they practiced this to get good at pretending to desert Templardom thus sparing their lives or what, but I read it on the internet so it has a 50% chance of being true! Just like God! Wow!

"Mysterious" Origin of the Freemasons 20.Apr.2005 09:03

Space monkey

Oh yeah, the deal about Freemasons. Guess how they started out...they were....dun dun dun...masons! Sure, they had this whole "secrets from the builders of the temple of solomon" thing going, but they werent this big abstract fraternity, yet. In fact, they were a lot more like a Union for the trade of masonry. This is probably the real reason all those hardline righties hated it back when and invented a whole buncha lokshen about how they were evil and satanic and about how all their symbols were evil and satanic. On the one hand though many of their symbols were gnostic and oriented toward the idea of enlightenment. Of course, the Catholic church (tentacle #12 in the Illuminati) never really liked them Gnostic Christians who believed that procreation was evil but sex for pleasure was ok.

So, back to the freemasons. How they did they become just a buncha business men and "upright citizens"? Well, because of their whole "Solomons temple" gig they DID have lotsa cool rituals and stuff. This attracted interest from mostly bourgeois outsiders who bought their way into the organization. Notice the difference between the modern phenomena of Scientology which was set up as a scam to be like this from its inception.

So yeah, it happened just like that. In fact, another organization, called the Freegardeners (No I'm not making this up) who were a sort of well...union of garderners! Eventually their bourgeois clients whos gardens they tended became interested in their rituals too! According to some reports the numbers of the freegarderners actually rivaled that of the freemasons at one point! Though they've pretty much died out completely since.

FEAR OF A BLACK PLANET 20.Apr.2005 09:06

Honkey Space Monkey

Oh yeah, the idea that the The Evil Conspiracy wants to reduce populations is the biggest joke in the world ever. Out of control population growth creates poverty among the masses and plenty of human resources for the unending wars. This is how "they" maintain control. Geez! There's already a huge outnumbering of slaves to masters capable of overthrowing "them", we dont need more numbers! The only reason the righty conspiracy theorists tack this on to their theory is to offer further proof that Left-wingers (in favor of birth control, get it?) are involved. What a freaking joke, too bad its on them. (I actually almost fell for this one awhile back. I mean...the christians keep breeding like rabbits while the secular institution keeps pitching birth control to the inner cities...gotta stop the spread of that.... Ahhh FEAR OF A BLACK PLANET!!!!! PSYCHE)

NIHILISM = The Stupid lie 20.Apr.2005 09:43

Grand Master Space Monkey

So yeah, just to say something conclusive or whatever:
Oh no, EVIL! Evil out there! Darkness VS Light etc! Shouldn't we all
be loving enough to escape from this struggling dichotomy for
at least a little while, if for nothing else, our own sakes! The Bad and
the Good are BOTH inside us my friends (incidentally Bad and Good
are out there too) and there is probably never gonna come some
purging time where GodMan comes and cuts the Bad part of us
from the Good part of us and leaves only the Yin and not the Yang.
But it's okay because "Bad" isn't really bad....but "Good" is in fact
literally Good (without quotation marks). And "Bad" is also Good.
You see, they just aren't getting along, so they hate eachother and
try to exist independantly from eachother leading to all kinds of
"imbalance" or "order" or "disorder" that results in life destroying
addictions etc.

It's not a choice between Absolutist Dogma and Nihilism! That's just
another "false" dichotomy. The Opposite of a Great Lie is often another
Great Lie. Just like the opposite of a great truth can be another great
truth. (This opposed to little truths like "the sun is bigger than the moon"
of which the opposite is not true)

I'm not saying we should all go spiritual and meditate on a mountain for
the rest of our lives, I'm saying we should try to "be the change we wish
to see in the world." But if all your are expecting is some sort of apocalyptic
tragedy in which the entire world is decimated you will only eat your
own soul in the process of this grim expectation. You might even end
up a Nihilist like the Straussians! Woe is the nihilist for he has no
imagination!

Now, maybe the masons or other "friendly societies" were/are in fact groups
who mean/meant to bring positive change before they were infested with
paranoid schizophrenics afraid of their own shadow.

I think a good metaphor is the Good Society which evil men from the outside
see as an insitutional threat so they penetrate it at all levels to gain power
for themselves and so corrupt the original goals of the society. You could
say the American government was like this. Or you could say it was a plot
by wealthy land owners from the beggining, whatever. At some point someone
had a vision, and then a second later someone came along and called them
a HERETIC and a bunch of people came and nailed them to a tree.

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Good Job 07.Nov.2005 18:32

One Voice

Don't worry about the negative feedback you may receive... They didn't believe Jeremiah either!

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