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Draft Bill information

I am not sure if this has been posted, but thought it should be...
Mandatory draft for boys and girls (ages 18-26)
starting June 15, 2005, is something that everyone should know about.
This literally effects everyone since we all have or know children
that will have to go if this bill passes.
There is pending legislation in the house and
senate (companion bills: S89 and HR 163) which will time the
program's initiation so the draft can begin as early as spring, 2005,
just after the 2004 presidential election. The administration is
quietly trying to get these bills passed now, while the public's
attention is on the elections, so our action on this is needed
immediately. Details and links follow.
This plan, among other things, eliminates higher
education as a shelter and includes women in the draft. Also,
crossing into Canada has already been made very difficult.


Please send this on to all the parents and teachers
you know, and all the aunts and uncles, grandparents, godparents. . .
And let your children know - - it's their future, and they can be a
powerful voice for change!

This legislation is called HR 163 and can be found
in detail at this website:

Just enter in "HR 163" and click search and will
bring up the bill for you to read. It is less than two pages long.

If this bill passes, it will include all men and
ALL WOMEN from ages 18 - 26 in a draft for military action. In
addition, college will no longer be an option for avoiding the draft
and they will be signing an agreement with the Canada which will no
longer permit anyone attempting to dodge the draft to stay within
it's borders. This bill also includes the extention of military
service for all those that are currently active. If you go to the
selcet service web site and read their 2004 FYI Goals you will see
that the reasoning for this is to increase the size of the military
in case of terrorism. This is a critical piece of legislation, this
will effect our undergradates, our children and our grandchildren.
Please take the time to write your congressman and let them know how
you feel about this legislation.
www.house.gov < http://www.house.gov> www.senate.gov < http://www.senate.gov>
Please also write to your representatives and ask
them why they aren't telling their constituents about these bills and
write to newspapers and other media outlets to ask them why they're
not covering this important story.

The draft $28 million has been added to the 2004
selective service system budget to prepare for a military draft that
could start as early as June 15, 2005. Selective service must report
to Bush on March 31, 2005 that the system, which has lain dormant for
decades, is ready for activation.
Please see www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html < http://www.sss.gov/perfplan_fy2004.html> to view
the Selective Service System annual performance plan, fiscal year
The pentagon has quietly begun a public campaign to
fill all 10,350 draft board positions and 11,070 appeals board slots
nationwide. Though this is an unpopular election year topic, military
experts and influential members of congress are suggesting that if
Rumsfeld's prediction of a "long, hard slog" in Iraq and Afghanistan
(and permanent state of war on terrorism) proves accurate, the U.S.
may have no choice but to draft.

www.hslda.org/legislation/national/2003/s89/default.asp < http://www.hslda.org/legislation/national/2003/s89/default.asp> entitled the
Universal National service Act of 2003, "to provide for the common
defense by requiring that all young persons (age 18-26) in the United
States, including women, perform a period of military service or a
period of civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and
homeland security, and for other purposes." These active bills
currently sit in the committee on armed services. Dodging the draft
will be more difficult than those from the Vietnam era. College and
Canada will not be options. In December, 200 1, Canada and the U.S.
signed a "smart border declaration," which could be used to keep
would-be draft dodgers in. Signed by Canada's minister of foreign
affairs, John Manley, and U.S. Homeland Security director, Tom Ridge,
the declaration involves a 30 point plan which implements, among
other things, a "pre-clearance agreement" of people entering and
departing each country. Reforms aimed at making the draft more
equitable along gender and class lines also eliminates higher
education as a shelter. Underclassmen would only be able to postpone
service until the end of their current semester. Seniors would have
until the end of the academic year.

What to do: Tell your friends, Contact your
legislators and ask them to oppose these bills

Just type "congress" into the aol search engine
and input your zip code. A list of your reps will pop up with a way
to email them directly. We can't just sit and pretend that by
ignoring it, it will go away. We must voice our concerns and create
the world we want to live in for our children and grandchildren.
Check me on this 09.Sep.2004 20:35


draft for boys and girls (ages 18-26)

No that would be men and women. But only those who choose not to play. One can not have resistance if there is nothing to resist. Go West young man and now young women. It isn't easy but it is life. I have a son who is WELL below draft age, for now, he will never ever go. Even if Napolian and his cannon where on the heights above this city the ansewr to this outdated army shit would be no. All of you can JUST SAY NO TO WAR.

Talk to vets who where in the shit not the nine out of ten who were typing clerks. They will tell you no.

The United States Army is afraid of me. At least today when i spoked to someone he was speaking with in a coffee shop, telling him "this guy will tell you anything to get you to enlist.

The USA does not like me I wear it as a badge of honor.

Question 10.Sep.2004 08:44

A person who could possibly be drafted

So would this bill require everyone do REGISTER with the draft, or would is force everyone to BE DRAFTED? There is a big difference. As you no doubt already know, all males between ages 18 and 26 are already required to register with the draft, so is looks like all this legislation would do would be to make it more fair (include women and rich people in the draft). Although this is no doubt an important change, it would not be nearly as huge as if this legislation actually started a draft. So which is is?
PS At present time, it's not that hard to simply not register with the draft. And yes, you can still register to vote if you aren't registered for the draft.

Please clarify 10.Sep.2004 09:45

for me...

I went and looked at the bill. It's dated 2003. Is is still under consideration? Can you provide a link?

Also, as scary as this bill is it may have an upside, doesn't it mean that the Bush twins would be eligible as well?

Don't Register, don't go 10.Sep.2004 15:33

Luke from DC

This is a good reason to refuse to register for the draft. If you have no college plans or are willing to forego college, you can forget about the student aid requirements. College is not worth losing a leg, so if college IS in your plans, you may want to wait until you are too old to draft, register on the last day of eligability, and go to school then.

If you register for the draft, you are takign a serious risk of beign drafted. If you don't register, they either won't know where you are or your name is simply one of millions who refused to register(like me-I refused).

If called, refuse to report. The first people to do this will bear increased risk-but less than that of going to iraq and beign killed or wounded while fighting for their own enemies. If enough people refuse to report for "duty," the draft will collapse into a smoking heap of political rubble just like last time around.

Involuntary volunteerism 10.Sep.2004 16:41


The Draft is calling for universal service for all citizens age 18 through 26. The details are a bit fuzzy like the Patriot Act was before they implemented it. The trial run for this abomination was the "service learning hours" requirement instituted by fiat in government schools as a graduation requirement.

When the parents went along with this unconstitutional decree by the schools, it signaled readiness to spring on this generation the universal service act. An easy transition for the high school graduates already pre-conditioned to this concept of service to the government rather than a servant government.

Just as welfare perverts charity, universal service will pervert community service.

This is sounding more and more like Germany in the 1930's.

Upside down 10.Sep.2004 19:35

Eltear eltearpdx <nospam> at netscape.net

(snip) ..."as scary as this bill is it may have an upside, doesn't it mean that the Bush twins would be eligible as well?"

Sure -- just as eligible as Daddy Shrub was during the Vietnam War. Maybe they would even have to show up on base once in a while -- they'd look darn cute in those desert camo uniforms, don't you think?

not a draft 11.Sep.2004 00:19


this bill is NOT a draft. it is universal service. everyone would be required to serve in some capacity. it could be homeland security, americorps or the marines. it is NOT preferable to anything at all. and it will not pass. yes it is still under committee and no, it doesnt make anyone "eligible". EVERYONE is eliglible in the age range.

Give me a head 11.Sep.2004 17:31

with hair long

beautiful hair, stream'n, gleem'n... Whatever they are selling don't go. Or if you feel no support and must report do the worst fucking job in your life, Act real dumb when tested. Think, if at all real slow. Try to jerk off in public, this will drive them nuts. You know there is still time to join the Party. Don't shoot a hole in your foot, they never heel (pun). Oh. about the Hair reference. When it was fashionable a few years ago for guys to shave their heads in support of the war, I couldn't help remembering after the liberation of France the collaborators had their heads shaved. seem so fitting that skin heads supporting the american pigs would do this.