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Hurricane Charlie Update: Modern Body Snatchers Discovered

But of course there's no conspiracy. There are only 25 or so official deaths throughout the entire State as a result of Hurricane Charley. If you believe that, I have some swamp land in Florida you might be interested in buying.
Before bringing you the investigative update on the mobile home park "body snatchers" of Charlotte and Desoto Counties, I'm going to first address the Florida State employee who was driving the brown Ford Taurus with the yellow Florida State official tag, No. 201104, heading south on King's Highway through Lake Suzy at 7:45 p.m. on Wednesday, August 25:

You don't know us (yet), but we were in one of the two cars you ran off the road as you drove at high speed down the middle of that two-lane road through our residential area. Does that help jog your memory? You were behind the Chevrolet Silverado pickup that had the red and blue windshield strobe lights and non-official "civilian" Florida tags. I guess you didn't think either car you nearly crashed head-on into would turn around and follow you to the red light at I-75... but surprise! I pulled up behind you and the other victim of your reckless driving adventure pulled up in front of you in the right lane (next to the Chevrolet pickup). It was nice of you to wait so patiently for the light to turn green, as did the pickup you were still behind that no longer had any strobe lights flashing. That's right... you've been caught abusing your authority and recklessly endangering lives while you were doing it. I'm sure your State boss will be having a talk with you shortly... as well as a criminal judge.

Now, let's talk about the notorious "body snatchers" of Southwest Florida. Ever since Friday afternoon, August 13, we have wondered what happened to the bodies we had seen at the two former mobile home parks located in Charlotte County, let alone those many bodies in other mobile home parks residents, National Guard soldiers, and Sheriff's Deputies had sworn to us they personally observed. As I stated in an earlier report, we were there before any rescue or emergency services were on the scene... within 2 hours after Charley had passed through our area. We know what we saw as we are retired from either military or civilian law enforcement (or both), with the exception of a minor family member who was with us that night.

A couple of days ago, it just happened that I ran into the son of a junior officer who had served with me for many years in the U.S. Army Military Police Corps. His son is a RA Officer assigned to the Florida National Guard and was in Desoto County when we met... neither of us at first knowing the common tie between his retired Army father and myself. As fate would put it, we ran into each other trying to free a horse tangled up in some barbed wire on a side road off U.S. 17 south of Arcadia. He had stopped in his Humvee to offer assistance.

After we realized our uncanny "family" ties, I asked him if he knew what happened to all the bodies I had observed a week before in the mobile home parks. I also told him what we had seen when we later returned to that area and asked him, as I had already concluded, if this was a military operation. His reply was "you saw what you saw," and then he proceeded to explain what he had been doing since he arrived early Saturday morning, August 14. I can relay to every reader that, because of the honor of the "Esprit de Corps" between Military Police officers, what you are about to read may seem surreal, but it is none-the-less the truth that you will surely not hear in the mainstream controlled media.

By 10:00 p.m. on Friday, August 13, both Washington City and Tallahassee knew of the real devastation and of the many hundreds of local EDS/EMS confirmed deaths in the wake of Hurricane Charley. As a part of the emergency S.O.P, specific MP (specialist) command units were sent to Charlotte County from Ft. Leonard Wood and Ft. Stewart, most arriving just before dawn on Saturday, August 14. Their specific orders were to secure all the mobile home parks from the local and State authorities, and to seal off these areas from all but "authorized" personnel. By the time JEB BUSH arrived on Saturday, this had been fully accomplished in both Charlotte and Desoto Counties. Every County Deputy, city Police Officer, and all other local Emergency Services personnel had been "relieved" from their mobile home park duties by the Military Police command and re-assigned to other areas.

As part of the operation, a curfew was set into place beginning Saturday evening for all areas affected by Charley. It remains in effect tonight as I finish writing this report. This curfew had (and still has) a two-fold purpose. The first and most obvious purpose was to control order during darkness, a very legitimate necessity. A multiple fatality tractor trailer and car accident at a US-41 intersection gave strength to the curfew due to traffic lights being inoperable.

The second purpose was to carry out search, recovery, and transport operations by "authorized" Federal teams. While residents were kept off the public streets, perimiters were established and non-residents were denied entrance, the mobile home parks were lit up by Army field generator units, searched, and bodies recovered. Those bodies were then transported out of the area on I-75 in refrigerated trucks marked "Emergency Response Services" with magnetic signs on the doors. These were some of the very same trucks that brought supplies into the area from Lakeland, Florida. It also serves to illustrate why there were so many refer semi's sitting in Lakeland that were not yet authorized to go to the Port Charlotte area, and why some were sitting for a day or two at a time at the bulk center drop-off on I-75 at the rest stop in Charlotte County.

Who - from police to other local and State personnel guarding the streets - would question the presence of these trucks both entering and exiting the area as FEMA "distribution" points were being constantly supplied 24 hours a day?

This is how it has all been carried out:

Bodies were recovered, placed into standard issue body bags (as well as large black "trash" type bags for body parts), loaded into military 2-1/2 and 5 ton covered troop carriers, sent to either of two secured "transfer" areas located near I-75, then loaded into the refer semi's for their journey to military installations throughout North America. The truck drivers never knew what their cargo was as they were not only kept away from the actual loading, but each trailer was well sealed and locked. No-one knew the better and there was no suspicion since it all just looked "routine."

If you want an "official" body count from the local morgues, don't bother as there are no bodies there other than from hospital and accidental deaths after August 13. There is nothing clever about how the removal of the 30+ mobile home park bodies was carried out... it's the standard operational procedure for military operations of this type. Whenever a civilian population is involved in the immediate area of recovery, they are isolated by curfews or secure perimeter lines from seeing night operations being carried out. This is nothing new, and every war Veteran should remember seeing this carried out in the field of operations, just as it goes on in Iraq today. But the difference here is that Charlotte and Desoto Counties are not considered war zones.

In order to verify what I was told above, our growing group of Vets spoke with a dozen or so National Guard patrols as they stopped by our neighborhood. While a few were reluctant to say anything to us, some were not hesitant to talk about everything they had seen... from dead fish to a body seen floating down the Peace River. Are any who told us about the bodies revealing national secrets? One Corporal answered that question when he said, "I thought everyone knew about the bodies. Isn't it on the news?" When we told him the "official" death toll was around 20, he laughed at us and accused us of playing games with him. He genuinely had no idea that the public had no knowledge of the truth.

But of course there's no cover-up. As one email I received today put it, since I can't give him a single name of any of the dead bodies I personally saw, then I can't be believed. I guess I didn't realize that I was supposed to check the bodies for picture ID when we stumbled on them that Friday evening. No-one told us that in order for our eye-witness accounts to be believed or to be considered authentic, we would have to know the name and address of every corpse we saw on the side of the road.

A worse tragedy (if anything could be worse than what has already been revealed) in all this "body snatching" going on is the extremely high death toll of migrant workers. In Desoto County, especially on or near US-17 where the eye of Charley followed to the Northeast, most mobile homes and all sub-standard housing was occupied by migrant fruit pickers and undocumented farm laborers. They didn't legally or officially "exist" in the first place, so don't expect their deaths to "exist" either.

But of course there's no conspiracy. There are only 25 or so official deaths throughout the entire State as a result of Hurricane Charley. If you believe that, I have some swamp land in Florida you might be interested in buying.

Michael Edward


HURRICANE CHARLEY PUBLIC FORUM
 http://http://worldvisionportal.org/wvpforum/index.php?c=11

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All the above posted at
 http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=54572
Date: Friday, 27 August 2004, 12:37 a.m.

I can not open the worldvisionportal link.
I can vouch for the reporter. There is no falsehood in his report.

To clarify . . . 27.Aug.2004 14:01

Gary McGowan

The author of the article is Michael Edward. I only reposted it. Michael is living through this experience, helping his neighbors, and spending considerable time and effort under difficult conditions getting out the truth about what is happening there. He and his neighbors could use, and more than deserve your suppoort. GM

Corrected link to Hurricane Charley Forum 27.Aug.2004 14:51

Michael Edward lawgiver1@rumormillnews.com



Why? 27.Aug.2004 20:00

R Ciardi

Maybe I'm dense, but why would the government hide the fact that there were more casualties than have been reported by the media? And how long could they keep it a secret? Surely family members would eventually start asking around about the fate of the dead. Something doesn't sound right here.

Response to R Ciardi 28.Aug.2004 02:03

Gary McGowan

R Ciardi,

I don't pretend to know why the facts of probably thousands of deaths from the hurricane are being hidden. I do know its terribly wrong to do so.

It should be a big news story.

But I can't imagine George and Jeb Bush wanting too many people asking what the hell happened the National Guard (They are in Iraq; only a small number of untrained NG are helping.)

Maybe the press is not supposed to look into how well or how poorly FEMA operates? Or compare disaster response and relief under FEMA with how it used to be done with the National Guard and other assistance.

Maybe goverment bean-counter's and law-twisters don't want to face some legal issue involved?

Maybe insurance companies don't have to pay up on life insurance for missing, not confirmed dead?

Below is partial text from the forum World Vision Portal supplied by Michael (I sent him a FYI that I had reposted his article here.)

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For those who won't bother to read all this report, let me spell out the body counts that 6 of us (all retired military and/or law enforcement) went out to confirm today in different areas. These are confirmed bodies in the trucks, restaurant refers, or refer vans, and they are NOT "missing persons" or animals:

Charlotte Harbor areas - 58 dead as of 5pm today;
Fort Myers & the barrier islands - 21 deaths as of 3pm today;
Punta Gorda - 275+ deaths and escalating each hour;
Desoto County - 36 deaths, expected to increase;

These figures came from our own eyes, medical personnel, various county sheriff's deputies, and eye witnesses or residents from the worst devastated areas. CNN and the rest of the world biased and controlled media are fooling none of us who live here. The current CONFIRMED body count in our 3 county area on the west coast of Florida is near 400 as I write this.

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I can't help but see how all that Forestry Department heavy equipment was rushed to Sanibel and Captiva islands while the majority of the older and less influential neighborhoods have been forgotten. Just because someone is elderly and lived in a mobile home doesn't make them any less important.

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MORE THAN 31 THOUSAND DESTROYED OR UNINHABITABLE HOUSES

August 24, 2004 5:30 p.m.

According to the latest statistics, Hurricane Charley caused an estimated $7.4 BILLION damage... so far.

Today, the American Red Cross has estimated that 12,019 homes were destroyed. This does not include 19,095 homes that have major damage and are uninhabitable in their present state of repair. 32,755 homes have minor damage and can be lived in while repairs are made, and 20,218 have less major damage, such as missing shingles. At least 5,661 homes were still inaccessible as of their report and it was unknown what damage they may have.
MORE THAN 31 THOUSAND DESTROYED OR UNINHABITABLE HOUSES

August 24, 2004 5:30 p.m.

According to the latest statistics, Hurricane Charley caused an estimated $7.4 BILLION damage... so far.

Today, the American Red Cross has estimated that 12,019 homes were destroyed. This does not include 19,095 homes that have major damage and are uninhabitable in their present state of repair. 32,755 homes have minor damage and can be lived in while repairs are made, and 20,218 have less major damage, such as missing shingles. At least 5,661 homes were still inaccessible as of their report and it was unknown what damage they may have.

(snip)

Let's just take a common sense look at things for a moment. Here we have all these many thousands of destroyed homes, plus thousands of uninhabitable homes that are damaged so much that they are unsafe. Yet we're being told that there are only 25 deaths from Hurricane Charley... and about half of these were related to post-hurricane accidents and medical condition deaths.

Here we have 12,000 totally destroyed homes... flattened and demolished, and not distinguishable as anything other than a trash pile. There were no advanced mandatory evacuations for inland areas until it was too late. Nearly all those in Charley's path were either huddled in bathrooms or in other safe places in our homes. The power of Charley's winds were like being hit by a locomotive train, which is far worse than being slammed by an 18 wheel tractor trailer. Imagine a train smashing through your house because that's just what happened to more than 12,000 houses and mobile homes. If you were inside your mobile home or house, what are the odds that you could have survived such a destructive power and force?

Yet we are being told that roughly 12 people died from the direct impact of hurricane Charley, a 175+ mph locomotive fury. That's merely 1 fatality for every 1,000 TOTALLY destroyed homes. Where did all those people huddled in the 12,000 or so bathrooms go to? Did they somehow get beamed up by Captain Kirk to safety? Did Charley descriminantly avoid all bathrooms where people were hiding and praying?

OK, let's be extremely conservative and say, for illustration only, that half of those completely destroyed homes were vacant. Now we're hypothetically looking at just 6,000 totally destroyed homes with just one person inside when Charley hit with little to no warning. And remember, most of the destroyed homes were flimsy mobile homes, the vast majority of which were older models that did not meet current hurricane safety standards. Are we to believe that there was just one fatality for every 500 demolished homes? And this is a hypothetical "half" figure I'm using here!

People in most of Punta Gorda, Port Charlotte, and the surrounding areas did NOT evacuate. The odds are, most people were in their homes when we got hit. The odds also say that escaping the deadly force of Charley, as evidenced by the destruction left in its aftermath, were slim to none for at least 12,000 homeowners.

By all common sense, and just using the Red Cross statistics released today, it is surely no exaggeration to say that the death toll from Hurricane Charley may reach into thousands.

Now you can see how absurd the "official" death toll is. Add to this the bodies that were seen by so many residents in the late afternoon and early evening hours of Friday, August 13, and it's not possible that there were only 12 or so hurricane directly related deaths.

Americans and the world... WAKE UP and demand that you be told the truth. Call every Florida radio and TV station and tell them to stop lying. Demand that they report the truth.

We refuse to leave any victim behind.

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Developers Nightmare 28.Aug.2004 06:43

Taylor

Having recently moved to Eugene from Florida I can tell you why there is a big coverup in the number of deaths reported...Florida is a developers dream and a major portion of the big(earth destroying) developers are members of King bushes rangers, you know the $100,000 plus donors to his re-selection campaign. After living there for 30+ years I fled due to the nightmare of growth..escaping the growth of my home state California in the very early 70's. With over 1000 people a day seeking to escape to the Sunshine State as permenant residents, and the 48 million tourists who pass through there on a yearly basis, deaths of this magnitude would disrupt their greedy little game. So it is all about MONEY...just like everything else.Florida has been destroyed by GREED,Hurricane Charley"s swath of destruction is a direct blowbwack from over population and climate change, due to a complete revamping of the landscape.

Charley death toll 28.Aug.2004 07:35

ZionsCRY ZionsCry@revlu.com

I got an email Hurricane Charlie Update: Modern Body Snatchers Discovered, author: Gary McGowan
Gary McGowan link - DID NOT WORK.

(copy-paste) I can vouch for the reporter. There is no falsehood in his report.
I MUST contact whoever will vouch for Michael Edward. I have seen his posts and I have SENT an edited part of one Email from Aug 17 when the ACTUAL BODY COUNT was total of 390.

I have sources too. One lives in Puenta-Charlott area and was hit.

FAR MORE than 26 dead is FACT. Media know this. August 14th both FOX and CNN reported
"STACKS of BODIES". They were shut up fast. One CNN cute female anchor was visibly and verbally angry, asking FEMA - WHY arent you giving us the body count? Come on!

There has been NO WAY I have seen to contact Michael Edward. I saw his post on rense also.

LISTEN UP!
I AM a CHRISTIAN, and tho Bush has done some things I dont like, I would NEVER vote for the evil Kerry. My feedback from my subscribers to my newsletter (  http://ZionsCRY.InJesus.com ) sees the Bush hate and discounts all of you!

I know the dead are AT LEAST 600 .. probably over 1000. Andrew was over 5,200 dead.

But I want to hear from those who DO NOT HATE PRESIDENT BUSH.
Steve Quayle also mentioned about 600 dead.

I emailed some contacts for info the media do not give us, and I thought Mitch Battrow, ECTV, would like this info and maybe have more. HE FIRED A NASTY EMAIL BACK TO ME CALLING ME A LIAR - FOR ASKING FOR INFO - AND SAID HE WOULD RUIN ME! HA! So much for the Mayan sun god worshipping battros.

by the way - body snatchers - cute.
I really NEED HARD TESTIMONIES - WITHOUT POLITICS.

I have even started a webpage
The TRUTH About Hurricane Charley - www.revlu.com/charley.html


question 28.Aug.2004 08:30

Sheepdog

how did the government of Germany control the rumors of the death camps that allowed the bakers and shopkeepers and citizens from recoiling in horror?

this is bullshit 28.Aug.2004 12:49

tt01

i cant believe any of this for one simple reason: you expect me to NOT believe what i hear on the radio (i have no television) and read in mainstream sources, yet you simply expect me to believe a bunch of whacko's who apparently drive around a hurricane disater area to find all the dead bodies FEMA is covering up, and they dont even think to bring a camera? give me a fucking break. i agree the numbers of destroyed homes is suspicious, but perhaps those homes were ones of the 2 million people evacuated!? how about that Gary? ever here the simplest explanation is usually the right one? the most reasonable source of undisclosed deaths in my opinion would be migrant workers and thier families. this whole thread is ridiculous. dont you think all these dead people have families? 5,200 dead in Andrew? and what, did the FBI and FEMA round up all associates and family of these people? dont be an ass. and all my neighbours were turned into squash last night. i cant believe this without ANY shred of evidence, and neither should anyone else. if you actually believe what is posted here without any verification I got a talking monkey i can sell you. it says: "believing reports from internet rumour mongers is just as bad as believing lies from the mainstream, duh. got a banana?"

Heed His Words 28.Aug.2004 14:36

Heed His Words

TT01, you are so full of it. WAKE UP, you sleepwalker.

full of it? 28.Aug.2004 15:12

tt01

really? ok, i'll just go and take your word for it. right after you read through every one of these articles and can find anything remotely approaching proof. theen get back to me.

 link to www.google.com

but not before you read about michael edward and what a really believable guy he is. read this:
 http://worldvisionportal.org/wvpforum/viewtopic.php?t=196

Seeds, eh? 28.Aug.2004 17:41

laszlo

After reading what that guy has to say on the subject, I'll stick with Chance the Gardener.

Bullshit Part 2 28.Aug.2004 17:56

Varro

I lived through Hurricane Andrew, and the same people were spouting the same crap about covered-up deaths in South Dade county back in 1992, accusing FEMA of having hangars full of dead bodies and hiding them for God-knows-what reason.

Think about it - Jeb was OPPOSING Lawton Chiles in the 1994 gubernatorial race - wouldn't he have brought up the treatment of the hurricane relief in South Dade? In one of the nastiest races I've ever seen, it never *once* was brought up.

If all these people disappered, wouldn't the children or grandchildren of the disappeared people speak up? Punta Gorda and Port Charlotte is retiree heaven - their children are likely not to live in Charlotte County, and be publicly posting MISSING notices, just like the family members of people lost in the attack on the WTC did.

Sorry to bust your conspiracy theories with logic, Dale Gribble and friends.

I wish we knew 28.Aug.2004 20:12

the truth

Body counts and questionable sources kinda reminds me of the issue of number of dead in the lastest foreign wars, Afghanistan and Iraq. The Bush government went so far as to ban all media from gathering information that would bring this tragedy to public scrutiny.

What public forum would the aggrieved families turn to in the event of missing person's?

response to ZionsCRY 29.Aug.2004 00:13

Gary McGowan

response to ZionsCRY

I can't really understand your message, but you can contact me at  somtum@rumormillnews.com

You can contact Mr Edwards at the address he gives in the second comment on this page.

We both post at Rumor Mill News, but are usually on something of a different wavelength, IMO. But I think his work on the hurricane is top-notch.

I certainly do not hate Bush, but he should not be President of the USA! From what I know of Michael's writing, I think it quite safe to say he doesn't hate Bush either. You are mistaken in your assumption.

If you have links for the media reports you cite, please post them. I and probably others would be interested in having a look.

AND RESPONSE TO tt01,

Hey, I don't want anyone to take my word (or Michael's) for it. I want people to look into it. Michael is publishing an-eye witness account, with reasoned argument. That's why I think it worthwhile. Hopefully we will see more of the same.

strange... 29.Aug.2004 07:29

Sheepdog

I seem to have been webjacked.
Try it out. Whrn I used the
 http://http://worldvisionportal.org/wvpforum/index.php?c=11
link, At the begiinig of this thread I was routed to
 http://www.microsoft.com/
Interesting.

to Gary 29.Aug.2004 13:50

tt01

"Hey, I don't want anyone to take my word (or Michael's) for it. I want people to look into it. Michael is publishing an-eye witness account, with reasoned argument. That's why I think it worthwhile. Hopefully we will see more of the same."

ok, fine i wont take your word for it. i have looked into it and i already posted everything i found on rense. that should clue you into the fact that i outright discount nothing, but when shit stinks i dont pretend i smell roses.

look at these threads. and check out the stories on urban survival. its all linked to the same account. it is bullshit and you'd have to be really dumb to think otherwise at this point. look, i have no doubt the toll is higher than 26 or whatever. but unless you have something decent, other than one crazy spiritual new age soul searchers "first hand account", give me a break.
 http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread74803/pg1
 http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread74803/pg2
 http://urbansurvival.com/week.htm

Gary, how about you post ONE story about this coverup, other than the account by edward. just one. thats all i ask. post one other story by someone other than this guy who actually says they saw something. i shouldne even be wasting my time...

Dead and missing? 17.Oct.2004 17:13

OhZone

The statistics are not complete here

We need to know how many were in shelters.

It's a conspiracy all right! 25.Dec.2004 13:29

Skip Wiley skip_wiley21@hotmail.com

I was born and raised in Southwest Florida and I was in Cape Coral when Charley ripped ashore on Friday the 13th. I don't know anyone that evacuated because the local networks were all showing the middle of the cone of probability as going thru Tampa Bay. Let's credit the NHC, they were telling everyone on the west coast of Florida to be ready, but to no avail.

Yes, most of the folks in those trailers were snowbirds, but I would estimate that 50%+ were year-round residents who are too stubborn too leave and probably were not here in 1992 for the last big one.

I heard Wayne Salladay (head of the Charlotte County EOC) say TWICE on Saturday August 14th that they did not have enough body bags and they had to keep Jeb out of certain areas until the bodies could be recovered. Check out the media recordings from WBBH, WINK, and WSVN if you want proof, it was all over the radio. I have a friend who was involved in the cleanup and he said that there were a lot of bodies that the state corner needed to identify before raising the official death toll. Most of the bodies were old folks who were thrown out of their mobile homes.

All of the sudden when FEMA shows up on Monday Salladay proclaims that only 4 people died directley from Charley. This is not even to mention all the migrants up in the Arcadia area who did not evacuate. My bet is the death toll is at least 300+ and it would have been worse if Charley didn't have such a compact eyewall.

I have my theories as to why the death toll is being covered up (like with Hurricane Andrew) but that is for another day. I write this on Christmas as I pray that someone will ait this out for the general public to hear. The families of those who died deserve to know what is happening... PLEASE, SPREAD THE WORD....

Anti-conspiracy 01.Oct.2005 00:25

Blue Boy

I seem to remember a time a few years ago when there were muggers, car jackers and the lot that were targeting german visitors to rip them off for their monies and goods! This brought to a quick halt much of the non residential tourist trade to florida for 2-3 years and may still hinder it! I also remember a sherriff in southwest florida making a statement about tourism that detoured many from coming back! Now if you think that these small seemingly nothing happenstances did disrail tourism to florida then just imagine if in the middle of the retirement community of the great south, this place of paradise, such a thing could happen without any warnings, not from the weatherman, not from the governor, not from the president, I believe that this would probably irrepairably sever many ties to the state of florida and the state lives on what happens during the winter and even some parts of the summer tourism... This would destroy floridas infrastructure and do away with much of their trade including dropping
the price of realestate and many other things they depend on to live!!! Its not really so preposterous as it seems,
maybe the country that we reside in has never tried to cover up anything at all and politicians never lie, they would always tell the truth during an election year, wouldnt they??? There are always questions but think past the small picture and into what is "best" for everyone, RIGHT!!