NEW 9-11 video '911 in Plane Site' screened in Sacramento, CA; left audience stunned

Bogus 9/11 Truth Sites
Muddying the waters with easily disproved phony claims
a COINTELPRO effort to discredit the 9/11 Truth Movement?

disinformation masquerading as 9/11 truth

debunking the "webfairy" - the most ridiculous bogus site

Pod people try to hijack the 9/11 truth movement
(the most popular tactic, since "webfairy" didn't catch on)

Idiot Savant -- sites that are a mix of good and bad

9/11: IN PLANE SITE -- the worst film on the topic
is this grotesque incompetence, deliberate disinformation or a case of useful idiots used by covert operatives?

911nutshell admits pod images are doctored by webfairy
webfairy and pod people are the same campaign:

 http://www.oilempire.us/bogus.html#podpeople

this ad here?

" COINTELPRO effort to discredit the 9/11 Truth Movement? "

(laughter) Takes one to know one obviously, right? Yeah, like troll comment above is a self-elected emperor of truth? much less the leader of a 9/11 Truth Movement. More like just another bit player in the 9/11 Disinformation Movement. Do trolls get paid overtime on Sundays? Or did they reject your time off because you are so lowsy?

Other troll comments:

--- "the worst film on the topic"; Whatever. Unless you were there for the original screening on Aug. 13, 2004 there is little way you could have known about it to buy it, much less have it delivered to you in one day over the weekend. This is Aug. 15. So you are simply lying.

--- "grotesque incompetence, deliberate disinformation"

You sound uncannily like Rush Limbaugh? I'll leave your overblown unsubstantiated claims alone. Look, comments like yours are simply fluff. They are transparent. Strip out the judgemental adjectives and 'hot' words: there would be nothing left!

--- "admits pod images are doctored by webfairy"

Care to back that up with an actual link? I thought so. Plus, if you go to that website originally linked, it would be original CNN and FOX footage. Though of course you would have to read to learn that, perhaps out of your job description I guess.

Plus, you selectively ignore: you ignore MANY other issues mentioned above, at your peril--like the lack of an American Airlines plane at the Pentagon, or the day-of interviews that said 'no windows' on the WTC2 hit plane, and that it looked much closer to a cargo plane, the people at the Pentagon screaming "that was no American airlines jet!" etc.

Personally I have shared this link with many already. I encourage others to do the same. If Moore's film scratched the surface on high treason in the White House, I am impressed with an America that still has patriots like the filmmakers who delve even deeper and see the treason everywhere around us and expose it.

I will close with what the original post says. It is the best answer to critiques:

"The Liars Club wants you to believe you need an "expert" [or a troll] between your eyeballs and your brain. In Plane Site says "See for yourself." It doesn't make conclusions. It has faith that people's brains still work, they don't like getting lied to, and won't stand still once they understand the Perfidity with which they've been treated. "



The 'ad issue:" This is hardly an 'ad' for something since I am unassociated with these people. It is a listing of various sources and information about the film, closer to a review assembled from various webpages. There is a link to the original pages if you want more. That is informative. Plus, there is a link for the trailer which is ENTIRELY FREE. Second, it's hardly an 'ad' to get the truth out. It's an 'ad' in my book only when disinformation, manipulation, or silly consumerism is simply the purpose. That is hardly the case above for any of these. Third, it's hardly an ad because they are OFFERING FOR FREE to give the movie to people who lost their loved ones in the fascist U.S. state terror exercises of 9-11. Michael Moore giving up his internet rights for FREE DISTRIBUTION OF HIS FILM on the web I am sure you would simply consider 'another ad'? Give you reflex mind a break on the 'ad issue'. I agree that ads do get published time and again. I suggest you spend your time complaining to CNN.com that they are running ads for Bush and Kerry disguised as news and ignoring actual republicans, democrats, greens, and libertarians---rather than complain about it at the IMC.


I encourage you to see this film as another tool in the armory of truth to slay such weak witted troll-dragons as seen above.' I even encourage trolls to see it!

911 In Plane Site
The FIRST 911 Video to Present VIDEO EVIDENCE - NOT THEORIES


VIEW A SHORT CLIP (1:14) FROM CHAPTER 2:
"Before The Collapse At The Pentagon"
CLICK HERE (Streaming Windows Media)

VIEW A SHORT CLIP (1:24) FROM CHAPTER 3:
"No Windows On Flight 175"
CLICK HERE (Streaming Windows Media)

VIEW A SHORT CLIP (1:29) FROM CHAPTER 5:
"Flight 175 Anomalies"
CLICK HERE (Streaming Windows Media)


 http://www.911inplanesite.com/911trailer.html

First, there was no content claimed by the debunkers themselves. They were simply debunking. There was nothing to debunk!

Second, to say that the film argues 'no plane' is a misnomer. What it shows--from eyewitnesses on the day of who were there attempting to get out information that was later discarded on the corporate media cutting room floor--that there were indeed planes involved. Those planes of 9-11 however were not American Airlines or United Airlines 767s or 757s. That much is clear from the physical evidence. Such physical evidence is what the U.S. based conspirators fear will be enough factual information concerning 9-11 that will get out more and more to totally destroy the fiction of the 'official' 9-11 Commission and the propaganda operation of the U.S. corporate media.

This operation of course has only worked in the small area of the United States, and hardly anyone else has been manipulated to the extent that the U.S. has over the state terror facts of 9-11. By state terror I mean the standdown, the unConstitutional legislation, the pre-emptive warfare, and the destruction of the Constitution and the attempt to foist an executive level police state to monitor everything about everyone from library books, to travel, to grocery store food purchases. Britain and Australia of coruse are invovled as well, because they were in on it. However, the Amerika that these fascists want, Orwells proverbial "boot, stamping on a human face, forever." This is because, as Brezezkinski stated in _The Grand Chessboard_ it is hard to have a democracy at home and an empire abroad. I let you guess which part the fascists consider the variable to give up in this equation.

The truth is just around the corner.

The planesite film did not premier in Sacramento, it's been in circulation for about a month. The website promoting this fake film has been up since early summer. It's been thoroughly debunked at  http://www.oilempire.us/bogus.html -- and the film makers resort instead to threats, nasty names, and related tactics.

Planesite's primary thesis is based on easily disproved nonsense such as the false claim that the second plane had an anomalous "pod" underneath. (In reality, it is merely a slightly blurred picture of the normal oval shaped connector between the 767 wing and the fuselage.) See  http://www.oilempire.us/bogus.html#newproof for 1000% proof that the pod claim is not true.

Planesite also claims that a photo of the south tower collapse dust cloud is really a giant explosion that proves demolition. Well, there may be evidence for demolition, but a photo taken after the building has fallen down merely subjects those who are looking seriously at this to a lot of ridicule.

The front cover of the "power hour" film shows a 757 with the alleged "pod" -- a normal part of the 757. This exact same photo was posted to the "9/11 Truth Alliance" email list in May 2004 by a member (not me) pointing out that the "pod" claim was ridiculous. Perhaps it is a coincidence that the Power Hour chose the exact same photo for their film cover. Perhaps it is merely a bad joke that is "hidden in plain sight."

the "power hour" organization is a far right christian fundamentalist group.

take a look at their links -- there are some really unusual theological links posted there

while this in itself is not the primary issue with the numerous inaccuracies in their fake film,
it does raise the question why an organization that is extreme right wing would suddenly
make a film based on easily disproved claims about 9/11 being an inside job.

perhaps incompetence.
perhaps malice (since easily disproved "evidence" makes the provable evidence seem less trustworthy)

Barrie Zwicker's film The Great Deception is being updated -- a comprehensive list of films about 9/11 (that don't base claims on easily disproved fake claims of "pods") is at  http://www.oilempire.us/movies.html

No one except trolls aim to create these divisive comments--that conveniently fail to critique any of the points about the movie? See the film. No one requires a troll to vet it for them.

You flakes, I know where the plane came from and went, the grassy knoll...LOL, say no to drugs...

thank you so much for the video. I've had recordings for 2 years
of the atrocities of the Bushes.
I know well how they planned and dynamited the TT, how the Pentagon
lie was made credible (american people are super ignorant!), I have
proof and photo revelations of what this administration has done, can,
and will do.
I've been an investigative journalist for years, I worked at the
Florida election, I know well about the election fraud, the republican
hordes spit on me, they destroyed my photographer's camera in Miami,
when they wanted to do the vote recount (an stupid manipulation).
they were about to dynamite the Statue of Liberty (they might
do it, as they have an exact replica of it).
I don't doubt a bit of the kind of beasts these people are. Just
read history, Prescott, nazism, investigate
Skull & Bones, The Carlyle Group, The Heritage Foundation, etc.etc.
Only ignorants/cowards can still support the present Bush
administration. They should - with the Supreme Court -have been
hung years ago for their crimes and violations to the Constitution.

Laura

i understand the people making it have dubious backgrounds and are promoting really dumb (pod? wtf) ideas, but the video image of the pre collapse pentagon and no crater is enticing. is there another location to get this? Is there a good video production out there? I understand there are amazing books but im kind of thinking mass media in the next 33 days so. . .