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NEW 9-11 video '911 in Plane Site' screened in Sacramento, CA; left audience stunned

'911 in Plane Site' presents actual film from that fateful day and careful analysis focusing on the Pentagon and the two World Trade Center buildings.

By slowing down the actual news feeds that day from networks like CNN, FOX, the BBC and others, what you see is quite different from what most people saw in "real time" that day. Live footage from the Pentagon and what was missed by most because of the smoke and confusion was captured up close by the media. Following the showing, a retired vet remarked, "How did we miss this all this time? I've seen media clips of the front of that building [the Pentagon] many times, but I wasn't really seeing what was there. I feel sick." '911 in Plane Site,' distributed by Power Hour Productions (866-773-9469), leaves one with many questions as demonstrated by a very upset senior citizen who requested her last name be withheld. Mary asked, "If these weren't commercial airliners, where are those flights? Where are the passengers? My, God what really happened that day?" Indeed, this seemed to be the biggest question expressed by viewers after the lights came back on, but for which there were no answers. Some viewers were visibly upset, angry and "want damn answers" from the Bush Administration. Others just walked out the door in silence.
9/11 VIDEO SHOCKS SACRAMENTO CITIZENS

POWER HOUR Productions Present
911 in Plane Site
The FIRST 911 Video to present Video Evidence, not Theories
Written & Produced by
Dave vonKleist
[online order information below, detailed information below, and LINKS TO VIEW THE FILM'S TRAILER, ONLINE]



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'911 in Plane Site' presents actual film from that fateful day and careful analysis focusing on the Pentagon and the two World Trade Center buildings.

By slowing down the actual news feeds that day from networks like CNN, FOX, the BBC and others, what you see is quite different from what most people saw in "real time" that day. Live footage from the Pentagon and what was missed by most because of the smoke and confusion was captured up close by the media. Following the showing, a retired vet remarked, "How did we miss this all this time? I've seen media clips of the front of that building [the Pentagon] many times, but I wasn't really seeing what was there. I feel sick."

One particular interview that brought gasps from the audience and many looking around with shock etched on their faces...

'911 in Plane Site,' distributed by Power Hour Productions (866-773-9469), leaves one with many questions as demonstrated by a very upset senior citizen who requested her last name be withheld. Mary asked, "If these weren't commercial airliners, where are those flights? Where are the passengers? My, God what really happened that day?" Indeed, this seemed to be the biggest question expressed by viewers after the lights came back on, but for which there were no answers.

Some viewers were visibly upset, angry and "want damn answers" from the Bush Administration. Others just walked out the door in silence.

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August 13, 2004

Posted 1:010 AM Eastern


NewsWithViews.com

A new 9-11 video was screened last night in Sacramento, California, leaving the audience stunned. '911 in Plane Site' is basically presented in two parts.

The first segment is 52 minutes and designed for showing on television with the balance of a one hour time slot reserved for commercials. Part II continues with more film and analysis. This video is digitally mastered making details sharp and clear.

'911 in Plane Site' presents actual film from that fateful day and careful analysis focusing on the Pentagon and the two World Trade Center buildings.

By slowing down the actual news feeds that day from networks like CNN, FOX, the BBC and others, what you see is quite different from what most people saw in "real time" that day. Live footage from the Pentagon and what was missed by most because of the smoke and confusion was captured up close by the media. Following the showing, a retired vet remarked, "How did we miss this all this time? I've seen media clips of the front of that building [the Pentagon] many times, but I wasn't really seeing what was there. I feel sick."

One particular interview that brought gasps from the audience and many looking around with shock etched on their faces was an interview conducted - live at the time - by FOX News.

This intense interview with Mark Burnback, an employee of FOX News, contains the following narrative, paraphrased: Burnback was close to the path of the second plane and had a good long look at what he describes was not a commercial airliner. The plane that hit the second tower had no windows, Burnback was very clear about that. The plane had some kind of blue logo on the front near the nose and looked like a cargo plane. This point was driven to the viewer several times along with the comment from this FOX employee that "this plane wasn't from around here or anything you'd see take off from the airport."

Other footage includes several women who had a very clear view watching the second plane hit were yelling, "That wasn't American Airlines....It wasn't American Airlines going into the building." These interviews were played that morning once on FOX News, never to be replayed again, despite the massive saturation and repetition by the media for many days to come.

Other extremely disturbing segments of this video are the clear, slow motion shots of the second plane going into the towers which show a flash right before the nose of the plane hits the building and a pod attached to the bottom of the plane. This strange flash is clearly recorded from four different angles from four different cameras. While there is only one known piece of film showing the first plane hitting the first tower, in slow motion one can clearly see - as with the second plane - a flash from the nose section right before impact. What caused this?

This video raises extremely disturbing questions about the planes that hit the Pentagon and the World Trade Centers, but no conclusions or accusations are made by the commentator. To date, only one piece of film has been released by DoD of the front of the Pentagon. The question raised in the video is where is all the other film footage from the Pentagon?

The heart beat of America's military and security, with a building and perimeter loaded with cameras, but no film for the public to view of events as they unfolded except from one camera?

According to the producers, the purpose of '911 in Plane Site' is to demonstrate that Americans saw one thing that morning that was so shocking, so horrific and so massive, the finer details weren't really being picked up. The producer reinforces to the viewer that after one broadcast of many very controversial interviews live on the spot, these particular interviews were never broadcast again, i.e. firefighters on the spot talking about the explosions and bombs inside the towers.

Since 9-11, it has been reported that "Building Seven" collapsed because of the two World Trade Center towers collapsing. However, the footage on this video tells a different story and raises more questions.

'911 in Plane Site,' distributed by Power Hour Productions (866-773-9469), leaves one with many questions as demonstrated by a very upset senior citizen who requested her last name be withheld. Mary asked, "If these weren't commercial airliners, where are those flights? Where are the passengers? My, God what really happened that day?" Indeed, this seemed to be the biggest question expressed by viewers after the lights came back on, but for which there were no answers. Some viewers were visibly upset, angry and "want damn answers" from the Bush Administration. Others just walked out the door in silence. One upset man commented on the way out of the viewing, "It's time to get this on PBS and every investigative news program on TV. We need answers."


 http://newswithviews.com/NWVexclusive/exclusive34.htm

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911 Video Shocks
Sacramento Citizens
Comment
From The Webfairy
8-14-4

Once people see for themselves how they were lied to, led on, and being led to slaughter, things can change.

There is no arguing with In Plane Site, not for anyone who has actually seen it.

The BIG LIE crowd is exposed as the liars and coverup artists they are.

There is no hole at the Pentagon big enough for a pickup truck, let alone a Jet plane.

And what hole there is is hidden behind undamaged cable spools.

We could only see an indeterminate still from this footage before, but In Plane Site has first coverage footage in living DVD.

WE WERE LIED TO.

The liars are still busy trying to keep the truth from people.

One of Rabidnitwitz claims is that the "It's not an American Airlines Plane" repeated twice was faked in during production.

It so happens that I have Camera Planet's sample reels of footage available for license.
 http://thewebfairy.com/911/cameraplanet/plane_hits_south_tower.mov

Two minutes in, there is the same scene. The lady says the same thing.

Claiming fakery is just another one of the BIG LIES designed to keep people from examining the evidence for themselves.

People who have claimed that my Flashies aren't clear enough, or are too damaged by mpeg compression to be useful can now only join the Orwellian parade hollering "fake".

In Plane Site licensed footage directly from Camera Planet.

They made their own enlargements using professional equipment.

There is no bandwidth constraint on a DVD, so these are full screen DVD quality, way much better than what I could achieve, but not showing anything different than my flashies show.

Their Ghostplane footage is straight off a CNN commemorative DVD released after 911.

Different source, indisputable source, but the same result.

The Liars Club wants you to believe you need an "expert" between your eyeballs and your brain.
In Plane Site says "See for yourself."

It doesn't make conclusions.

It has faith that people's brains still work, they don't like getting lied to, and won't stand still once they understand the Perfidity with which they've been treated.

In Plane Site has the Local Coverage of OKB before the Feds stepped in and the story changed.
Not all the bombs had exploded.

Nobody had discovered the magic truck bomb that could blow the building out instead of in.

They had called in the bomb squad, and people were running in terror from the news there were still more bombs.

The governor announced this was a Sophisticated Attack. Only people watching live in Oklaholma City got to see this before it fell into the memory hole.

This video can save lives, maybe even save our country and the world.
 http://policestate21.com



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SOME FILM EXCERPTS DESCRIBED:




Why weren't America and the world shown the video and photographs of the Pentagon, BEFORE the outer wall had collapsed? See these astonishing photographs for the first time.


Given that the outer wall of the Pentagon had not yet collapsed, how does a plane over 44 feet tall and 125 ft. wide, fit into a hole which is only 16 ft. in diameter, as shown in the crystal-clear photographic evidence from the Pentagon? Can physics explain this?


In the aftermath, it was reported by media sources that a giant 100 ft. crater was plowed into the front lawn of the Pentagon as the result of a powerful airliner crash? Why does photographic evidence overwhelmingly show that this was not the case?


How does a Boeing 757, constructed from lightweight aluminum, penetrate over 9 ft. of steel reinforced concrete? Recently discovered photographs shed light on this unexplained feat of physics.


Contrary to the pictures shown to the American public, why does photographic evidence taken only a few moments after the Pentagon event, show no wreckage on the lawn of the Pentagon? Where is the plane? What happened to the passengers? Examine this new evidence for yourself.


At the World Trade Center, why did firefighters, reporters and other on the scene eyewitnesses describe a demolition-like, pancake collapse of buildings One, Two & Seven? Outrageous admissions by the building lease owner recorded on video, plus shocking new video evidence helps to answer important questions.


What is the bright flash on the right side of the Boeing 767, seen just before impact on both the North Tower & the South Tower, captured on video by 5 separate cameramen including CNN and ABC? Slow motion analysis reveals startling verification of this extraordinary event and begs the question, "What is it?" Find out what former military personnel think this could be.


Why were there numerous reports of bombs & explosions going off in and around the WTC before any buildings had collapsed? Hear & see the testimony of the reporters, rescue teams and eyewitnesses who tell a different story than what we have all been lead to believe.


Why did a FOX News employee, who witnessed the second tower attack, report seeing no windows on "Flight 175" a commercial United Airlines jetliner?


Is there some sort of exterior swelling protruding from the undercarriage of "Flight 175" ? If so, when and where was it attached? How could it have departed from a commercial airport without being noticed? What purpose did it serve in the attacks? Full-screen television blow-ups directly from CNN reveals the intricate details of this strange anomaly.


ASKING DOZENS OF QUESTIONS...
All analyzed with the aid of video and photographic evidence, eyewitness accounts and first-hand testimony.
We ask the questions; you draw the conclusions.


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POWER HOUR Productions Present
911 in Plane Site
The FIRST 911 Video to present Video Evidence, not Theories
Written & Produced by
Dave vonKleist

DVD: Approx. 75 min / Color / Not Rated / NTSC / 4:3
VHS: Approx. 65 min / Color / Not Rated / NTSC / 4:3
POWER HOUR Productions Present



From Dave vonKleist, co-host of "The Power Hour" radio program and writer/producer of the album "Will Someone Listen" & William Lewis, producer/director of "American Freedom News" and "TruNews" comes a full length documentary exposing one of the largest conspiracies ever uncovered. With the pounding force of a sledgehammer you will find yourself horrified and astonished at the shear scope of the largest transgressions ever carried out against the people of the United States and indeed... of the entire world.

View the actual footage from CNN, ABC, CBS, FOX and others.
Powerful and convincing footage, shown only once,
and never seen again. . . Until Now



"911" Reviews Are Coming In Strong & Positive:

9/11 VIDEO SHOCKS SACRAMENTO CITIZENS
Read the review by Devy Kidd - NewsWithViews.com

"Shocking - Thought provoking - Raises serious questions about the government's honesty in conducting the 9-11 investigation"
Tom Flocco - TomFlocco.com

"Everyone in America should see this video."
Dick Gregory - DickGregory.com

"This video makes Fahrenheit 911 look like child's play. Michael Moore could have taken some lessons from this video."
Jack Dominico - The Randi Rhodes Show

"Absolutely awesome. This is the one September 11 video that everyone should see."
Lou Epton - The Lou Epton Show

"This is a MUST see film, especially for show and tell"
Meria Heller - www.Meria.net

"Dave vonKleist weaves several key moments of live, un-retouched film footage regarding the events of Sept. 11 into a crystal clear picture of official deception."
Don Harkins - The Idaho Observer

CuttingEdge vowed not to carry any more 9/11 investigative videos or books unless they broke significant new ground; this video does just that.
David Bay - CuttingEdge.org

"The 911 Film Michael Moore Should Have Made."
David Icke - DavidIcke.com

DVD of the Week: "This compilation shows us all the footage we've seen a million times, it also shows us the footage that mysteriously, or not so mysteriously, never got shown again - all the immediate, "on the site" footage that contradicts the story we've all grown to know and love."
Michael Dare - Disinfotainment Today

Read A Few 911 Reviews
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New Discovery:
Flight 175 Anomaly Update / Newly discovered photo of "United Airlines Flight 175" reveals even more details of the attachment on the bottom of this aircraft. Check out the CNN footage for a larger photo of this anomaly. Also, tune in to ThePowerHour radio program for new information as it becomes available.


To All of Those Who Lost Loved Ones In The 911 Attacks: We would like to express our deepest sympathies to all of the families who lost loved ones in the attacks on September 11, 2001. Our thoughts and prayers are always with you. We would like to extend to you an opportunity to receive "911 In Plane Site." We ask for nothing in return apart from watching this video presentation and showing it to as many people as is humanly possible.


 http://www.policestate21.com/


911 In Plane Site
The FIRST 911 Video to Present VIDEO EVIDENCE - NOT THEORIES

TRAILER, ONLINE:  http://www.policestate21.com/911trailer.html
WHICH INCLUDES--

VIEW A SHORT CLIP (1:14) FROM CHAPTER 2:
"Before The Collapse At The Pentagon"
CLICK HERE (Streaming Windows Media)

VIEW A SHORT CLIP (1:24) FROM CHAPTER 3:
"No Windows On Flight 175"
CLICK HERE (Streaming Windows Media)

VIEW A SHORT CLIP (1:29) FROM CHAPTER 5:
"Flight 175 Anomalies"
CLICK HERE (Streaming Windows Media)


The Evidence Behind "911 In Plane Site"
CLICK HERE



TRAILER, ONLINE:  http://www.policestate21.com/911trailer.html

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POWER HOUR Productions Present
911 in Plane Site
The FIRST 911 Video to present Video Evidence, not Theories
Written & Produced by
Dave vonKleist

DVD: Approx. 75 min / Color / Not Rated / NTSC / 4:3
VHS: Approx. 65 min / Color / Not Rated / NTSC / 4:3

I'll never drink Muddy Water... 15.Aug.2004 12:16

Sonny and Brownie

Bogus 9/11 Truth Sites
Muddying the waters with easily disproved phony claims
a COINTELPRO effort to discredit the 9/11 Truth Movement?

disinformation masquerading as 9/11 truth

debunking the "webfairy" - the most ridiculous bogus site

Pod people try to hijack the 9/11 truth movement
(the most popular tactic, since "webfairy" didn't catch on)

Idiot Savant -- sites that are a mix of good and bad

9/11: IN PLANE SITE -- the worst film on the topic
is this grotesque incompetence, deliberate disinformation or a case of useful idiots used by covert operatives?

911nutshell admits pod images are doctored by webfairy
webfairy and pod people are the same campaign:

 http://www.oilempire.us/bogus.html#podpeople

Why 15.Aug.2004 14:00

is

this ad here?

troll eating own tail? 15.Aug.2004 16:09

poster

" COINTELPRO effort to discredit the 9/11 Truth Movement? "

(laughter) Takes one to know one obviously, right? Yeah, like troll comment above is a self-elected emperor of truth? much less the leader of a 9/11 Truth Movement. More like just another bit player in the 9/11 Disinformation Movement. Do trolls get paid overtime on Sundays? Or did they reject your time off because you are so lowsy?

Other troll comments:

--- "the worst film on the topic"; Whatever. Unless you were there for the original screening on Aug. 13, 2004 there is little way you could have known about it to buy it, much less have it delivered to you in one day over the weekend. This is Aug. 15. So you are simply lying.

--- "grotesque incompetence, deliberate disinformation"

You sound uncannily like Rush Limbaugh? I'll leave your overblown unsubstantiated claims alone. Look, comments like yours are simply fluff. They are transparent. Strip out the judgemental adjectives and 'hot' words: there would be nothing left!

--- "admits pod images are doctored by webfairy"

Care to back that up with an actual link? I thought so. Plus, if you go to that website originally linked, it would be original CNN and FOX footage. Though of course you would have to read to learn that, perhaps out of your job description I guess.

Plus, you selectively ignore: you ignore MANY other issues mentioned above, at your peril--like the lack of an American Airlines plane at the Pentagon, or the day-of interviews that said 'no windows' on the WTC2 hit plane, and that it looked much closer to a cargo plane, the people at the Pentagon screaming "that was no American airlines jet!" etc.

Personally I have shared this link with many already. I encourage others to do the same. If Moore's film scratched the surface on high treason in the White House, I am impressed with an America that still has patriots like the filmmakers who delve even deeper and see the treason everywhere around us and expose it.

I will close with what the original post says. It is the best answer to critiques:

"The Liars Club wants you to believe you need an "expert" [or a troll] between your eyeballs and your brain. In Plane Site says "See for yourself." It doesn't make conclusions. It has faith that people's brains still work, they don't like getting lied to, and won't stand still once they understand the Perfidity with which they've been treated. "



The 'ad issue:" This is hardly an 'ad' for something since I am unassociated with these people. It is a listing of various sources and information about the film, closer to a review assembled from various webpages. There is a link to the original pages if you want more. That is informative. Plus, there is a link for the trailer which is ENTIRELY FREE. Second, it's hardly an 'ad' to get the truth out. It's an 'ad' in my book only when disinformation, manipulation, or silly consumerism is simply the purpose. That is hardly the case above for any of these. Third, it's hardly an ad because they are OFFERING FOR FREE to give the movie to people who lost their loved ones in the fascist U.S. state terror exercises of 9-11. Michael Moore giving up his internet rights for FREE DISTRIBUTION OF HIS FILM on the web I am sure you would simply consider 'another ad'? Give you reflex mind a break on the 'ad issue'. I agree that ads do get published time and again. I suggest you spend your time complaining to CNN.com that they are running ads for Bush and Kerry disguised as news and ignoring actual republicans, democrats, greens, and libertarians---rather than complain about it at the IMC.


I encourage you to see this film as another tool in the armory of truth to slay such weak witted troll-dragons as seen above.' I even encourage trolls to see it!

do see the five minutes for free 15.Aug.2004 16:27

poster

911 In Plane Site
The FIRST 911 Video to Present VIDEO EVIDENCE - NOT THEORIES


VIEW A SHORT CLIP (1:14) FROM CHAPTER 2:
"Before The Collapse At The Pentagon"
CLICK HERE (Streaming Windows Media)

VIEW A SHORT CLIP (1:24) FROM CHAPTER 3:
"No Windows On Flight 175"
CLICK HERE (Streaming Windows Media)

VIEW A SHORT CLIP (1:29) FROM CHAPTER 5:
"Flight 175 Anomalies"
CLICK HERE (Streaming Windows Media)


 http://www.911inplanesite.com/911trailer.html

'no plane' is hardly what was said'; only 'different planes' 15.Aug.2004 19:14

Sisyphian poster

First, there was no content claimed by the debunkers themselves. They were simply debunking. There was nothing to debunk!

Second, to say that the film argues 'no plane' is a misnomer. What it shows--from eyewitnesses on the day of who were there attempting to get out information that was later discarded on the corporate media cutting room floor--that there were indeed planes involved. Those planes of 9-11 however were not American Airlines or United Airlines 767s or 757s. That much is clear from the physical evidence. Such physical evidence is what the U.S. based conspirators fear will be enough factual information concerning 9-11 that will get out more and more to totally destroy the fiction of the 'official' 9-11 Commission and the propaganda operation of the U.S. corporate media.

This operation of course has only worked in the small area of the United States, and hardly anyone else has been manipulated to the extent that the U.S. has over the state terror facts of 9-11. By state terror I mean the standdown, the unConstitutional legislation, the pre-emptive warfare, and the destruction of the Constitution and the attempt to foist an executive level police state to monitor everything about everyone from library books, to travel, to grocery store food purchases. Britain and Australia of coruse are invovled as well, because they were in on it. However, the Amerika that these fascists want, Orwells proverbial "boot, stamping on a human face, forever." This is because, as Brezezkinski stated in _The Grand Chessboard_ it is hard to have a democracy at home and an empire abroad. I let you guess which part the fascists consider the variable to give up in this equation.

Thanks for the article. 16.Aug.2004 06:26

Tony Blair's dog

The truth is just around the corner.

PlaneSite is plainly ridiculous - avoids real evidence of complicity 19.Aug.2004 00:47

pod people

The planesite film did not premier in Sacramento, it's been in circulation for about a month. The website promoting this fake film has been up since early summer. It's been thoroughly debunked at  http://www.oilempire.us/bogus.html -- and the film makers resort instead to threats, nasty names, and related tactics.

Planesite's primary thesis is based on easily disproved nonsense such as the false claim that the second plane had an anomalous "pod" underneath. (In reality, it is merely a slightly blurred picture of the normal oval shaped connector between the 767 wing and the fuselage.) See  http://www.oilempire.us/bogus.html#newproof for 1000% proof that the pod claim is not true.

Planesite also claims that a photo of the south tower collapse dust cloud is really a giant explosion that proves demolition. Well, there may be evidence for demolition, but a photo taken after the building has fallen down merely subjects those who are looking seriously at this to a lot of ridicule.

The front cover of the "power hour" film shows a 757 with the alleged "pod" -- a normal part of the 757. This exact same photo was posted to the "9/11 Truth Alliance" email list in May 2004 by a member (not me) pointing out that the "pod" claim was ridiculous. Perhaps it is a coincidence that the Power Hour chose the exact same photo for their film cover. Perhaps it is merely a bad joke that is "hidden in plain sight."

why are christian fundamentalists soliciting on indymedia? 19.Aug.2004 00:55

jesus is coming, look busy

the "power hour" organization is a far right christian fundamentalist group.

take a look at their links -- there are some really unusual theological links posted there

while this in itself is not the primary issue with the numerous inaccuracies in their fake film,
it does raise the question why an organization that is extreme right wing would suddenly
make a film based on easily disproved claims about 9/11 being an inside job.

perhaps incompetence.
perhaps malice (since easily disproved "evidence" makes the provable evidence seem less trustworthy)

Barrie Zwicker's film The Great Deception is being updated -- a comprehensive list of films about 9/11 (that don't base claims on easily disproved fake claims of "pods") is at  http://www.oilempire.us/movies.html

so much slurs, so little time 23.Aug.2004 20:12

.

No one except trolls aim to create these divisive comments--that conveniently fail to critique any of the points about the movie? See the film. No one requires a troll to vet it for them.

Wake Up 01.Sep.2004 21:10

red

You flakes, I know where the plane came from and went, the grassy knoll...LOL, say no to drugs...

laura 26.Sep.2004 10:34

laura robertson, journalist jstolowicz@yahoo.com

thank you so much for the video. I've had recordings for 2 years
of the atrocities of the Bushes.
I know well how they planned and dynamited the TT, how the Pentagon
lie was made credible (american people are super ignorant!), I have
proof and photo revelations of what this administration has done, can,
and will do.
I've been an investigative journalist for years, I worked at the
Florida election, I know well about the election fraud, the republican
hordes spit on me, they destroyed my photographer's camera in Miami,
when they wanted to do the vote recount (an stupid manipulation).
they were about to dynamite the Statue of Liberty (they might
do it, as they have an exact replica of it).
I don't doubt a bit of the kind of beasts these people are. Just
read history, Prescott, nazism, investigate
Skull & Bones, The Carlyle Group, The Heritage Foundation, etc.etc.
Only ignorants/cowards can still support the present Bush
administration. They should - with the Supreme Court -have been
hung years ago for their crimes and violations to the Constitution.

Laura

is this film worth owning and showing? 30.Sep.2004 15:05

notquick

i understand the people making it have dubious backgrounds and are promoting really dumb (pod? wtf) ideas, but the video image of the pre collapse pentagon and no crater is enticing. is there another location to get this? Is there a good video production out there? I understand there are amazing books but im kind of thinking mass media in the next 33 days so. . .