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Republicans exposed on Nader

What a joke: "Ralph Nader demands that Democrats quit telling lies about Republican support of his campaign" HA. Looks like the WillyWeek exposed that garbage.
NADER NEWS STORY More Republicans (shh!) for Ralph BY CHRIS LYDGATE clydgate at wweek.com With the seconds ticking away, local Republicans are giving a quiet, unofficial boost to Ralph Nader's star-crossed odyssey to get on the Oregon ballot. While Republican officials say they are not directly working to aid Nader's independent presidential bid, the head of a local GOP group last week twice circulated Nader petitions at Republican functions, according to witnesses. With Oregon pegged as a swing state in the November elections, Nader's insurgent campaign has become the focus of all kinds of political shenanigans. Figuring Nader will siphon votes from Democrat John Kerry, conservative groups such as Citizens for a Sound Economy called on supporters to attend Nader's special "assembly of electors" in Portland in June. Initially, the GOP preferred to let proxy groups do the dirty work of campaigning for a guy who opposes everything they hold sacred. But now that the Nader campaign has embarked on a last-ditch effort to collect 15,000 signatures by Aug. 24, some GOP activists just couldn't hold themselves back from a little unofficial politicking--not that they'll admit it. "No! Not at all!" exclaimed Liz Pearson, chairwoman of the Clackamas County Young Republicans, when asked whether Nader petitions were circulated at the group's meeting last week, held at the Bomber restaurant in Milwaukie. "That was not happening at our meeting, I can guarantee you that." "Hook me up to a lie detector, honey," she added. But two people who attended the meeting told WW Pearson herself brought Nader petitions and encouraged folks to sign. "She had a stack of them," said Gail Holmes, president of the Lake Oswego Republican Women's Club. "She asked people if they'd distribute them." In a subsequent interview, Pearson backtracked, saying she'd learned someone unaffiliated with the group had brought a petition without her knowledge. Meanwhile, however, a source who spoke on condition of anonymity told WW that Pearson had also handed out petitions over the weekend at a Republican rally in Oregon City's Clackamette Park. Pearson denied circulating petitions at the rally. Asked whether she circulated petitions after the rally, however, she declined to comment. GOP top brass has tried to distance the party from these faux-Ralphing tactics. "The Young Republicans is a separate organization," says state GOP spokeswoman Dawn Phillips. They have their own charter. They don't take their marching orders from us." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Originally published on WEDNESDAY, 8/11/2004 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
if the democrats had an ounce of intelligence... 11.Aug.2004 10:54

ex-democrat voter

They would realize the advantages Nader's campaign held for them, especially with republicans choosing to support it. But I guess the democrats would rather have their own fascist state founded on fear and ignorance then a democracy based on principles and integrity.

FASCIST STATE? You're helping create one 11.Aug.2004 11:07

GK's good twin

Give Bush another four years and they'll be even less to argue about.

We're losing freedoms, jobs and lives right now. This isn't about being expressing your great moral purity. It's about politics. There's only one way to topple Bush, and it's got nothing to do with Nader's narcissism.

no, I'm trying to prevent one, what are you doing? 11.Aug.2004 11:19

ex-democrat voter

I'm trying to point out how the democrats could act to actually win the election, assuming that is what they would want (I'm not convinced it is what the DLC wants). They won't win by attacking Nader and keeping him off the ballot, they will only make themselves look worse and push people out of their party. Again, this i perhaps what they want, alienate progressives and attract republicans seems to be the game plan, as it has been for the past decade or two. The freedoms, jobs, and lives we're losing all come from policies supported by the democrats and John Kerry and Kerry has said very little about changing any of those policies. He believes in and supports the war on Iraq (lives), so-called "free trade" (jobs), the patriot act, homeland security act, anti-terrorism act (freedoms). So now the democrats have chosen to run a candidate that supported Bush against Bush which is an exceptionally poor strategy (well, depending on what one hopes to accomplish of course, it's a great strategy if one didn't want to win the election).

There are many ways to "topple Bush" if one just starts thinking about it. Don't be locked into such reductionist thoughts about electoral politics.

Though I shouldn't have to point it out I'd just add that I'm not planning on voting for Nader, just so you know that it's more than Nader supporters that are disgusted with the actions and strategies of the democratic party.

fascist state... 11.Aug.2004 11:58


You mean like a state where we have "neighborhood watch groups" to combat terrorism?

"America's needs to establish some form of neighborhood watch system to train people to respond to terror alerts and cope with potential attacks... [people] can do more to protect themselves against terrorism by setting up neighborhood watch groups."

- John Kerry

Democrat bullshit 12.Aug.2004 14:26

George Bender

The Nader campaign is not responsible for what Republicans do, nor do we have any control over them. We did not solicit their support. The Oregon Nader campaign, last I heard, was considering legal action to keep Republicans from circulating Nader petitions, if they actually are. Personally I don't give a shit. After all the nasty Democrat tricks all over the country to keep Nader off the ballot -- because they don't believe in democracy -- I'm ready to accept any help we can get. It's just a stupid game. Republicans give the Nader campaign unwanted support and then Democrats use that as a club to beat us over the head with, which is completely unfair.

All this dirty politics allows the Democrats to avoid the real issues being raised by the Nader campaign. Because they can't deal with, among other things, John Kerry being a warmonger. Democrats should be ashamed of supporting Kerry. You just can't go low enough, can you?