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Ten Plus One Reasons (Other Than Iraq)

Ten Plus One Reasons (Other Than Iraq) to Evict Bush in November
1. Unilateral foreign policy that alienates other nations
2. Undoing of civil liberties
3. Policies of planned destruction of the environment
4. Promotion of free trade at the expense of the world's poor
5. Creation of a huge burden of debt for the next generation
6. Policies that prevent universal healthcare
7. Involvement of religious fundamentalism in government
8. Policies and tax structures that favor the super rich
9. The Supreme Court
10. No workable plan for a failed education system

+1 The next premeditated "preventive" invasion of a sovereign state

Isn't any one of these enough?

Fred Pohlmann
Boulder Creek, California
All Good Reasons to Bring Him to Trial ASAP!!! 07.Aug.2004 22:18

Bush/Kerry in 2004!!!

And since Kerry is guilty of aiding and abetting Bushco with nearly every item on this list, he should certainly join him, before he risks siphoning votes away from the only widely recognizable candidate in the race worth voting for, and hands another sElection victory to the Commander in Chimp. Nader offers a substantial change of course, and there are many other superior voting options to choose from as well including "no confidence", so their is absolutely no need to vote for either a pirate or a war criminal.

WRONG, Fred - Kerry is just the same as Bush in all 11 reasons you provide 08.Aug.2004 15:09


Every one of your reasons to oust Bush are valid. However, the "Anybody But Bush" movement, which is code for "Kerry For President" is of no help, with all of your issues.

Kerry has demonstrated that he is willing to outdo Bush on Bush's own agenda. Kerry promises to keep US troops in Iraq until AT LEAST 2008. Kerry promises to put 40,000 additional troops in Iraq (more than the additional 20,000 troops Bush promises).

Catholic Kerry is personally anti-choice, as far as abortion, and has personally voted for Scalia's confirmation as a Supreme Court Judge. He has stated that he will appoint similar judges again.

Kerry's tax breaks for the rich include a lessening of the state tax (just like Bush!).

Kerry has stated that he thinks nuclear powers such a N. Korea should be attacked. That reminds me of when Bush promised to use nuclear weapons against enemies (which the US would have to against another nuclear power). Kerry has a short list of nations he wants to pre-emptively attack (just like Bush).

Kerry's main difference from Bush is that he wants to get other prominent rapists in on the rape of smaller nations. Apparently in Kerry-land, a gangrape is somehow more moral than mere rape. Do you think that citizens of the target nations give a flying *&^$&( how many countries are in on an attack on their home?

Kerry was against public school teacher tenure, and voted FOT Bush's misnamed LEAVE NO CHILD BEHIND act.

Kerry has come out publicly very much against universal healthcare. Which makes sense, given how much pharmaceutical companies have contributed to his campaign.

Kerry has no cohesive plan for the environment. At least Clinton has environmentalist rhetoric (which was subsequently forgotten.ignored) which Kerry has dispensed with. There is no evidence whatsoever that Kerry will be any better for the environment than Bush. Clinton was just as bad, if not worse, for the environment than Bush is/was.

Kerry is against affirmative action. Just as Clinton and Bush were/are.

Kerry was for the PATRIOT act, and also every BS reason for war that Bush provided for Iraq.

Kerry is against gay marriage.

Kerry seems to hate workers and cut unemployment benefits for laid-ff workers.

Kerry si in the pocket of communications companies and voted for media consolidation in '96.

What will voting Kerry in do for the US? It will keep it on course, the same ruling elite-planned course bush has for the US - yet it will shut up protestors and activists - killing any real action with the false hope that Kerry will "listen to them" or somehow change his mind.


Universal Health Comp (fix) 09.Aug.2004 02:31


Neophyte Pundit
The daily rantings, writings, and reflections of a center right Christian man. [!]

July 14, 2004
Universal Healthcare
This is from John Kerry's website:

Affordable Health Care for Every American John Kerry believes that your family's health is just as important as any politician's in Washington. That's why he will give every American access to the health care plan that the President and Members of Congress already have. John Kerry has the courage to take on special interests to get health care costs under control. He will stand up to big insurance and drug companies that impede progress. John Kerry's health care plan takes care of our most vulnerable citizens by covering every child and preserving and strengthening Medicare.[Center right man's dissaproving Christian Emphasis]

"John Kerry's plan comes close to some goals, but will still leave many people out of the system. However, he does address generally the concept of Universal Access to the healthcare system. I would urge Kerry to consider a more inclusive healthcare plan than his current plan. He will get my vote because I believe that bringing the concept of universal coverage into the government arena is a vital first step, but I am left wondering why no candidate has addressed the concept I have outlined above."

The fact that many countries have it should be an adequate demonstration that universal healthcover is achievable. Not to mention the astonishing prices Americans pay for drugs:

PAULETTE BEAUDOIN: I have osteoporosis, osteoarthritis, emphysema and I've got a heart problem. I have just a small piece of small intestine, so I have to have pills to digest my food. I've got to have pills to take care of my acids.

JONATHAN HOLMES: Altogether, she takes 15 different medications every day. But in one way, she's far luckier than most Americans. She lives just a few hours drive from the Canadian border, and twice a year she goes to Canada to buy her prescription drugs.

PAULETTE BEAUDOIN: (Holds up prescription inhaler) This is for my lungs, to open up my lungs, and this costs me almost $2,000 here in the United States for six months. In Canada, I pay just $500 for six months. This is just for one of my prescriptions.

JONATHAN HOLMES: Altogether, Paulette reckons she saves US$10,000 a year by buying 13 of the 15 drugs she needs in Canada. But technically, she's breaking US law.

PAULETTE BEAUDOIN: My country doesn't work for me, that's for sure. Other countries, their country works for the people, to help them out. Mine doesn't. Not at all. Far from it.

JONATHAN HOLMES: In a doctor's surgery in Sydney's Bondi Junction, Dr Gillian Deakin is seeing one of her regular patients. Ten years ago, David Nolan had a heart attack. Since then, he's been taking the cholesterol-lowering drug Zocor. Like the vast majority of drugs prescribed in Australia, Zocor is on the Pharmaceutical Benefits Schedule. That means it'll be massively subsidised by the taxpayer, as long as the doctor follows guidelines laid down in the schedule.

DR GILLIAN DEAKIN: Someone who's had a heart attack, for example, is at high risk of having another one. So cholesterol above four would make them eligible to receive the drug. But if someone has simply nothing wrong with them at all and they have cholesterol, it has to be above nine millimoles per litre before they're eligible. So you can see we have a sliding scale and it depends on their risk.

JONATHAN HOLMES: Despite such controls, the cost of the PBS is the fastest-rising element of the federal health budget - it cost taxpayers $5.2 billion last year. And prescriptions are costing patients more too. Most of us pay a maximum of $23.70 per script item, but both major parties now agree the copayment should soon go up to $28.60. That will still be less than half what a month's supply of Zocor actually costs. As a concession card holder, David Nolan has been paying only $3.80 per script.

PHARMACIST: Mr Nolan? OK, so the prescription that you've bought today means now that you've reached your safety net limit. So now you're entitled to one of these cards...

JONATHAN HOLMES: And from today, he'll be paying nothing at all. So David Nolan's Zocor script will cost the [Australian] taxpayer about $62 a month. But Paulette Beaudoin would pay an American pharmacist at least twice as much money for the same script - out of her own pocket.

The prices the Australian Government negotiates for prescription drugs, including those that cost many times more than Zocor, are substantially lower even than Canada pays. The system it uses to evaluate drugs is admired by public health experts worldwide.

PROFESSOR KEVIN OUTTERSON, LAW, WEST VIRGINIA UNIVERSITY: The most rational, most thoughtful system of procuring, buying prescription drugs in the world is really the Australian system.

JONATHAN HOLMES: In a hotel in Melbourne's Tullamarine Airport, the Pharmaceutical Benefits Advisory Committee is holding a three-day meeting. The PBAC's dozen members are respected experts - physicians and pharmacologists, health economists and pharmacists. Four times a year, they take time out from busy schedules to decide which of some 30 new drugs they'll recommend should be subsidised by the Australian Government and at roughly what price. To reach its decisions, the committee applies a ruthlessly logical test.

PROFESSOR LLOYD SANSOM, CHAIR, PHARMACEUTICAL BENEFITS ADVISORY COMMITTEE: We make recommendation to the Minister on the basis of cost-effectiveness - that is, what is the incremental cost for the incremental benefit? And so drugs which have large benefits would engender a large price. Drugs which do not provide us with any additional benefit over what we've got at the moment, we're prepared to offer the same price.

JONATHAN HOLMES: In America, drug companies spend hundreds of millions of dollars persuading patients to ask for their new miracle cure, and doctors to prescribe it. But many expensive new products are so-called 'me too' drugs, offering only marginal improvements over older, cheaper medications. The Australian Government won't subsidise higher prices unless the drug companies can provide hard evidence of a real improvement in outcomes.

PROFESSOR DAVID HENRY, CLINICAL PHARMACOLOGY, NEWCASTLE UNI: It's a system called 'reference pricing', and this is a system that is very unpopular with the international pharmaceutical industry, and that is that the price of the new drug is referenced to another product, the cheapest product in that therapeutic class that offers the same performance. And if the new drug doesn't offer more, then it gets the same price as the cheapest product in the class.


Since he left the PBAC, David Henry has been in demand as a consultant, from South Africa to Latvia to Iran.

PROFESSOR DAVID HENRY: Australia's a benchmark country. Other countries are copying the methods that are used. If you go to the World Health Organisation and ask, "How do we do this?" they'll say, "Well, go look at what Australia does." This may look like a small battleground but it's actually part of a much bigger war that's being waged globally. And I think the industry - the US industry - has a strong interest in pushing this as hard as they can.

JONATHAN HOLMES: Some of the fiercest battles in that war are being fought in the United States itself. The state of West Virginia nestles in the Appalachian mountains, a few hours drive west of Washington. If he's ever to get to the White House, John Kerry needs West Virginia, which George Bush took from the Democrats four years ago. The cost of health care is a crucial issue.

JOHN KERRY (ADDRESSING POLITICAL RALLY): Senators and Congressmen give themselves the best health care in the world and they give you the bill. My values say we're going to put in place the principle that every family's health care in America is as important as any politician's in Washington, DC.

JONATHAN HOLMES: The Democrat faithful, rallying in the Charleston University campus just across the river from the state capital, look young and healthy enough. But West Virgina's population is the oldest and poorest in the Union. And out in the small towns, there's a growing mutiny against the cost of prescription drugs.

CHARLIE BALL, PATIENT: You want to know exactly what I think about it? I think it's a rip-off.

JONATHAN HOLMES: The drug companies are attempting to placate the likes of Charlie Ball by providing him with free prescription drugs. He's done 20 different jobs in his time, he says. Now he's too old and sick to do any. Dr Ron Stollings of the Madison Medical Center has him on a cocktail of medicines for high blood pressure and cholesterol. At the chemist, his drugs would cost Charlie Ball well over $1,000 a month. Instead, he steps down the corridor to Nurse Debbie Hopkins's office. Nurse Hopkins spends most of her time helping Madison's poorer citizens apply for free medicines under the drug companies' patients' assistance programs. But the paperwork for each separate prescription is daunting.

NURSE DEBBIE HOPKINS, MADISON MEDICAL CENTER: We have to establish proof of income from the patient, that they meet a certain guideline. And each company is different. And we have to prove that they do not have any other type of prescription coverage and prove that they do not pay income taxes.

JONATHAN HOLMES: Four to six weeks later, if all goes well, Charlie Ball gets his medicine.

NURSE DEBBIE HOPKINS: These are a few of the applications that I have to have filled out by Friday so the patients can get their medications.

JONATHAN HOLMES: Debbie Hopkins's salary is paid by Dr Stollings and his three colleagues out of their own pockets.

NURSE DEBBIE HOPKINS: And a lot of our people are elderly and a lot of them are uneducated, illiterate. And if it wasn't for the doctor's office, I don't think they would have any idea how to get their medications. They would do without. And a lot of people have died because they've done without their medicine - they can't afford it. And it's wonderful to come up with the new ideas and the new health care - it's wonderful. But they have to find a way for the poor people of this nation to get health care and to get prescription drugs.

JONATHAN HOLMES: Up in the State Capitol Building in Charleston, that's just what they're trying to do. The Governor of West Virginia has appointed a pharmaceutical cost-management council to scour the world for strategies.

PROFESSOR KEVIN OUTTERSON (ADDRESSING MEETING): Everyone talks about how the Canadian prices are a good deal. The Australian prices are 40% below the Canadian prices, if you can imagine it.

Why does the US Want to undermine the Australian Pharmaceuticals Benefit Scheme?
- full transcript of an interesting Australian Broadcasting doco

sorry for the bloody mess - close block 09.Aug.2004 02:56


and my apology for the unintended wide-arse screeen syndrome.
-mea culpa.