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WTC third plane?

Alex Jones documentary "9/11 The Road to Tyranny" fast-forward to 1:17:05, look to the upper righthand side of your screen - WTFWT?
Hey folks,

Sorry to be the weird extra-plane-at-the-WTC-guy here. I'm just curious if this has already been talked about. Or if it's bogus footage or an optical illusion or what. Does anybody know of any other good long-range footage of the second hit?
Interesting, but. 04.Aug.2004 22:45

AP

There is an unidentifiable aircraft in several video captures of the second impact.

Because it is unidentifiable, unmentioned and unreferenced,
I wouldn't invest too much time theorizing an explanation.

helpful, on black smear thingy and Woolworth building 05.Aug.2004 00:47

open mind

There's a lot about that little black ZOOMING THING on the web, actually, if you look around. It's there--when no one ever has claimed that any other plane or F-16 was in the area--so it's definitely interesting.

Another intersting point are the claims from firefighters on 9-11 that something was being LAUCHED from the Woolworth building, which of course had been conveniently closed off (for the operation?) shortly before....

There are lots of things that are important, though unlike the above comment, there is hardly a foreordained way to say beforehand how to rate their relative importances. I say simply keep an open mind and keep correlating...this puzzle piece you have probably fits better in a way that you least expect it, and it will appear to you in a flash.

more for you 05.Aug.2004 00:51

open mind

It's discussed in print in Eric Hufschmid's book:

Painful Questions: An analysis of the September 11th Attack
 http://www.erichufschmid.net/
Eric at 9-11 People's Research Conference, San Fran
Eric at 9-11 People's Research Conference, San Fran
Nice corp. media spoof! Even media staff knows more than bubble-head anchors...
Nice corp. media spoof! Even media staff knows more than bubble-head anchors...

explanatory fitness: quality and quantity of convergent evidence 05.Aug.2004 12:35

AP

>>>> There are lots of things that are important, though unlike the above comment, there is hardly a foreordained way to say beforehand how to rate their relative importances.

Yes there is.

If there weren't, we would surely deem all evidence to be of equal value and relevance.

The Warren Commission worked with this principle in mind when it wasted several pages on a deatailed examination of Jack Ruby's mother's teeth....


If you can provide corroborating evidence of anything more than a few blurred pixels in relation to the unidentified aircraft mentioned above [which I don't dispute was flying at the time], please post it here, ie: images, witness reports, pilot reports, FAA claims, FBI claims, Pentagon claims, radar reports, etc.

. 05.Aug.2004 19:24

open mind

look, argue with your philosophical teacher all you want, I'll just watch and smile. The point I was making was lost or intentionally ignored. The point being that the film is blurry, yes. Whatever it was that went by on the exact seconds of the WTC2 hit was there. Sure, it could be birds. It could be anything. However, something is there. It's just something to keep in mind. Establishing such a dogmatic assertion when all the evidence is still being sorted out shows more laziness than anything in my opinion. I'm sure we'll chat later, other pages, other topics, though I have nothing else to say than what is above.

poisoning the wells 05.Aug.2004 23:59

Already Published

>>> look, argue with your philosophical teacher all you want, I'll just watch and smile

thanks for the "logic" !!