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Greens and strategic games

Ever play a strategy game like chess or backgammon? Novices playing these games often attack just for the sake of attacking. Good players on the other hand understand the goal isn't hitting, the goal is winning.
A number of posters keep dissing Greens, as if those of us who dumped the Democratic Party and failed to back Nader's independent campaign are lacking in courage and brains.

Ever play a strategy game like chess or backgammon? Novices playing these games often attack just for the sake of attacking. Good players on the other hand understand the goal isn't hitting, the goal is winning.

As Greens, our goal is to create a sustainable, peaceful, non-corporate world. How we get there is complex but the vision doesn't waver. The 2004 Presidential election will have little effect on our LT goals.

In this election, neither Cobb nor Nader will be President so what are the goals if they aren't winning?

Cobb and the Green Party, through their collective wisdom or ignorance, have the following goals and strategy:

1. Get George Bush and the neo-cons out of the White House
2. Increase ballot access for the Green Party
3. Increase the number of elected Green office holders
4. Increase Green Party registration
5. Promote the Green Party and educate voters and citizens about our platform, plans and agenda.

This seems pretty smart and sophisticated to me given our long-term goals.
Nader campaign goals 02.Aug.2004 20:24

George Bender

"In this election, neither Cobb nor Nader will be President so what are the goals if they aren't winning?"

As I see it, the main goal of the Nader campaign is to threaten the Democrats with losing, so they will be forced to move left. A secondary goal is to spread progressive ideas.

I have given up on third parties. If they're going to end up like the Greens I don't want to play.


Goals? 03.Aug.2004 07:02

Brian Setzler

"As I see it, the main goal of the Nader campaign is to threaten the Democrats with losing, so they will be forced to move left."

Two comments:

1. How come this didn't work in '00? They lost and it had no discernable effect on the Democrats. In fact, you could say they moved right which makes sense in a 2-party system. In a bell curve, there are far more votes in the middle.

2. As Greens, we really don't give a shit about the Democratic Party. Greens are a unique party with our own set of values. I personally don't care whether Democrats move left, right, up or down. I care about shifts in Democratic politics about as much as I care about changes within the Libertarian, Constitution and/or Republican parties.