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Free speech zone internment camp

A federal judge yesterday upheld a fenced "free speech zone" for protesters near the FleetCenter during next week's Democratic convention, even though he said he agreed with critics who likened the cramped space to an internment camp.
The Free Speech Zone
The Free Speech Zone
Protesters Make Last-Ditch Appeal On Pens
July 24, 2004
 http://www.thebostonchannel.com/print/3573020/detail.html?use=print

BOSTON -- As delegates are arriving for the Democratic National Convention Saturday, so too are demonstrators whose planned protests and parades will be strictly and tightly regulated by police.

NewsCenter 5's David Boeri reported that the hotly-contested designated free speech zone near the Fleet Center was flooded with standing water Saturday.

Not that it would have mattered to the federal judge who, even after declaring the zone an interment camp last week, rejected the claims of protestors that it violated their first amendment rights.

"Who will challenge the vague rationale that national security, quote unquote, 'takes precedent over the cornerstone of democracy -- the right to free expression?'" asked Tony Palomba, of the American Friends Service.

The standing water, the coiled razor wire and high double fencing enveloped in additional mesh netting made an ironic contrast to the father of a Marine killed in Iraq in the stated cause of defending freedom.

"My son died in an immoral war in Iraq," he said.

"What country is this? We always claim that we are the most democratic, the most free country of this planet. We condemned countries like China, but right now we are using methods to suppress in the same way as country that we consider totalitarian," said Urzula Masny-Latos, of the National Lawyers Guild.

In Cambridge, Mass., Saturday, members of a mobilizing committee called Black Tea, whose clean-cut earnestness seems to undercut police concerns about agitators, condemned fear tactics and once again vowed to shun the designated demonstration zone.

"We have no intention of giving up every right that we have in this country to enter that area," said Elly Guillette, of the Black Tea Society.

Attorneys for two different groups of activists filed an appeal to the federal judge's decision upholding the government's security arrangement.

The matter goes to the 1st Circuit Court of appeals on Monday morning.

Related:

Excerpt from article: "Judge deplores but OK's site for protesters"
author: Jonathan Saltzman, Globe Staff
 http://www.saveourcivilliberties.org/en/2004/07/449.shtml

A federal judge yesterday upheld a fenced "free speech zone" for protesters near the FleetCenter during next week's Democratic convention, even though he said he agreed with critics who likened the cramped space to an internment camp. [snip]

Woodlock said he had initially assumed that activists were exaggerating when they likened the protest zone near Canal Street to an internment camp. But he said that after touring the area for 90 minutes Wednesday, he concluded that comparison was "an understatement."

The zone covers 25,800 square feet, according to the city's latest measurements, smaller than officials previously said. It is a rectangle bordered by cement barriers, a double row of chain-line fencing, heavy black netting, and tightly woven plastic mesh. Coils of razor wire line the train tracks, which slope downward to 5 feet, 9 inches above the ground.

"One cannot conceive of other elements [that could be] put in place to create a space that's more of an affront to the idea of free expression than the designated demonstration zone," Woodlock said.

[ Full article at:
 http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2004/07/23/judge_deplores_but_oks_site_for_protesters?pg=full ]


My comment:
Any real "terrorist" would gain access to the convention with a fake ID as an employee connected to janitorial, food related service or media production crews. Such a person may even try to pass themselves off as a security guard or medical personnel.

They would not be hanging out in the "free speech" zone. They would not be "disguised" as a protester.

If the area inside of the cage is the "free speech zone" what do you call the area outside?

Photos of the zone at:
 http://parkerpettus.com/index.html

Related links:
 http://www.saveourcivilliberties.org/en/region/boston/
 http://blackteasociety.org/index.php
The Constitution is Dead. Viva la Revolucion 25.Jul.2004 02:10

che

Speaker's Pen

Trends in the Granting of Free Speech 25.Jul.2004 02:15

enemy combatant

maybe if there is another election it will all change.
basic model
basic model

to the poster named 'enemy combatant" 25.Jul.2004 03:11

Out of the Zone

Thank you for posting that picture! I KNEW those free-speech zones looked familiar. Maybe everyone who hangs out in the zones should wear orange jumpsuits.

Neither political party whispers of this constitutional violation 25.Jul.2004 06:44

Pleiades

So all you Kerry supporters, or you Bush supporters... your candidates don't seem to be concerned with this... Why not look at the Libertarians as they are a party who ARE concerned with this and will not allow this to happen if elected.

Stop rolling over and allowing them to loot and abuse. We have rights and it is our responsibility to take them back... It can be done by being brave enough to get off the hamster wheel and vote for the Libertarian Candidate. At least free speech will be honored and we can go from there deciding what to do with our country.... GOVERNMENT BY THE PEOPLE FOR THE PEOPLE... does this look like that? Wake up NOW.... get off the loop... neither democrat or republican gives one sack of crap about YOUR RIGHTS TO LIVE AS FREE PEOPLE.

If this doesn't send an alarming chill up your spine, please realize you are doomed to lick the hand of your master and leave my presence for you are not even worthy of being called a countryman.... A vote for either the democrat or republican ticket means you prefer to lick the hand of the master... next it will be his arse.

libertarians are fascists too 25.Jul.2004 06:54

juan

they just want to own and profit from your imprisonment

So Juan, do you have a better idea? 25.Jul.2004 07:43

Pleiades

Yo Juan,

I think you need to do some homework... I don't think imprisonment comes with no support for seatbelt laws, for ending the war on drugs, for cutting the government, never thinking of a draft, ending the bogus war on terror.

The defination of fascism is Corporations influencing government policy. Communism and socialism is where government has all the peoples property and give it back as they see fit in government programs. Both these systems are imprisonment.

Libertarianism is based on Rights and Responsibilities and ownership of property... not giving you a privilege to drive, get married, etc. then giving you rules, like wearing a seat belt for your protection or get punished in the form of a fine (tax) for not obeying the bogus law, called corporate policy, in this fascist state.

If you understood the Government has been turned into a corporation and the very drivers licence you have is an agreement to obey the corporations rules and you have a privilege to drive, is all bogus and we have been imprisoned. We have a right to travel, not a privilege... Americans don't know facts... A little homework is important here... some actual exercise of the brain in thinking, reasoning, and thought process is a necessary thing as well.

How about reading a book by Dr. Mary Ruwart titled Healing Our Would through Libertarianism, then we can have a conversation and discussion rather than a knee jerk reaction to something you apparently don't have the undrestanding for. These comments show how unintelligent the two party system keeps its followers. It also shows me the desire for many in this country to remain content in the prison without walls ... as long as they tell you you are free, you agree because you don't take the time to understand what freedom is and isn't.

So Juan, what is your idea for a meaningful solution to this mess?

private property as run-around to the constitution 25.Jul.2004 10:01

eek

The "free-speech zone" barriers are privately owned (but subsidized with taxpayer money, of course). Since there is no guarantee of free speech on private property, the owners of the barriers can place whatever restrictions they want. That's how they get to pen people in like that.

Pleiades... I know you can't speak for the whole Libertarian party, but would you still object if these "free-speech zones" were still in use, only privately funded?

Question on Free Speech Zones 26.Jul.2004 06:51

reader

With the government declaring free speech zones what does that make the non-designated areas? "Propaganda only" pre-approved speech zones.

The problem with codifying this first amendment right in this blatant manner is demonstrating the official policy of the US government,State approved defacto brainwashing of Americans.

WE GET WHAT WE DESERVE 27.Jul.2004 17:19

recusant recusant@verizon.com

WE are only as Free as we are willing to be.
If someone tells you to shut up get in the cage, and
then bark all you want.....and you listen
GOOD DOG.
I say BITE anyone who tries to stop you from saying
what is on your mind.
I WANT PEACE but i will not accept forced silence
to have it.
SHAME ON THE DEMOCRATS inside who have not said a word
about this. Shame on anyone who would vote for a person
or party that would be silent on such an issue.
IF BUSH GETS ELECTED.......SO BE IT
IF KERRY GETS ELECTE.......SO WHAT!!!
He Obviously shares Bush's "LOVE FOR THE CONSTITUTION"