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Donít Blame Liberals for Gun Control

Anti-gun crusaders seem worried about the advent of a Republican administration. Heaven knows why. Republicans, in recent years, have managed to do nearly as much damage to the Second Amendment as Democrats.
Stalin also supported gun control. It makes the dictator's job so much easier.
Stalin also supported gun control. It makes the dictator's job so much easier.
In 1969, journalist William Safire asked Richard Nixon what he thought about gun control. "Guns are an abomination," Nixon replied. According to Safire, Nixon went on to confess that, "Free from fear of gun owners' retaliation at the polls, he favored making handguns illegal and requiring licenses for hunting rifles."

It was President George Bush, Sr. who banned the import of "assault weapons" in 1989, and promoted the view that Americans should only be allowed to own weapons suitable for "sporting purposes."

It was Governor Ronald Reagan of California who signed the Mulford Act in 1967, "prohibiting the carrying of firearms on one's person or in a vehicle, in any public place or on any public street." The law was aimed at stopping the Black Panthers, but affected all gun owners.

Twenty-four years later, Reagan was still pushing gun control. "I support the Brady Bill," he said in a March 28, 1991 speech, "and I urge the Congress to enact it without further delay."

One of the most aggressive gun control advocates today is Republican mayor Rudolph Giuliani of New York City, whose administration sued 26 gun manufacturers in June 2000, and whose police commissioner, Howard Safir, proposed a nationwide plan for gun licensing, complete with yearly "safety" inspections.

Another Republican, New York State Governor George Pataki, on August 10, 2000, signed into law what The New York Times called "the nation's strictest gun controls," a radical program mandating trigger locks, background checks at gun shows and "ballistic fingerprinting" of guns sold in the state. It also raised the legal age to buy a handgun to 21 and banned "assault weapons," the sale or possession of which would now be punishable by seven years in prison.

Gun control crusaders argue that the Republicans are simply yielding to grassroots pressure, to gain political advantage. But polls show little evidence of such pressure.

A Gallup/CNN/USA Today survey taken in June 1999 - only two months after the Littleton massacre - showed that the number of Americans who favored stricter gun laws had declined by 20 percent since 1990.

Public support for gun control has dwindled even further since then. An Associated Press poll released on the one-year anniversary of the Littleton shootings shows that Americans favor strict enforcement of existing laws over new gun laws - the exact position of the National Rifle Association (NRA) - by 42 to 33 percent.

That same month, a survey by the Pew Research Center showed that only 6 percent of Americans believed that tougher gun laws would prevent future school shootings.

Meanwhile, a Tarrance Group poll has shown that only 5 percent of Americans want gunmakers and gun dealers held responsible for misuse of firearms.

Clearly, the pressure for gun control is not coming from the grassroots. It comes from those layers of society that the left calls the "ruling classes" - academics, Hollywood stars, Washington insiders and multibillion-dollar media conglomerates.

The latter are particularly influential in pushing anti-gun propaganda. A study by the Media Research Center released in January 2000 showed that television news stories calling for stricter gun laws outnumbered those opposing such laws by a ratio of 10 to 1.

The blame for this media bias is traditionally assigned to "liberal journalists." And, indeed, most journalists do hold left-of-center views. A 1996 survey of working journalists by the Roper Center and the Freedom Forum showed that 89 percent had voted for Bill Clinton in 1992. Only 4 percent identified themselves as Republicans and only 2 percent as conservatives.

Yet, their "liberal" views probably have less impact on the media's anti-gun bias than most people assume. Rank-and-file reporters have little power to influence the political spin even of their own stories.

When I worked at the New York Post in the mid-1980s, I found the newsroom filled with liberals. They grumbled constantly about the paper's conservative slant. But they went along with it, because it was company policy.

Liberal news organizations are no different. Political bias comes from the top. Rank-and-file reporters simply do what they are told.

Those of us who cherish our Second Amendment rights are keeping our fingers crossed about George W. Bush. But the monolithic commitment America's "ruling classes" have shown toward gun control makes one wonder whether even a president is free to buck the current.






When guns are outlawed, only governments will own guns 25.Jul.2004 00:53


FOR gun control; Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin

"For the first time, a civilized nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient and the world will follow our lead to the future!"
-- Adolf Hitler, 1935

AGAINST gun control; Mahatma Gandhi

"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest."
-- Mahatma Gandhi

Mass Murder REQUIRES Unarmed Victims

Gun laws don't work. They never have and they never will. By removing all firearms from citizens, the government is then able to dictate anything it wants and not fear a possible uprising. For years, governments have either restricted or confiscated firearms. The relationship between gun confiscation or restriction and genocide that took place will never be forgotten. Here are some of the facts:

When guns are outlawed, only governments will own guns.
56 million people murdered by their own governments in the 20th century.

Turkey established gun control in 1911.
* From 1915 to 1917, 1.5 million Armenians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

The Soviet Union established gun control in 1929.
* From 1929 to 1953, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

China established gun control in 1935.
* From 1948 to 1952, 20 million political dissidents, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Germany established gun control in 1938.
* From 1939 to 1945, 13 million Jews, Catholics, Gypsies, socialists, homosexuals, trade unionists, disabled and mentally ill people, and other "mongrelized peoples," unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Cambodia established gun control in 1956.
* From 1975 to 1977, 1 million "educated people," unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Guatemala established gun control in 1964.
* From 1964 to 1981, 100,000 Mayan Indians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

Uganda established gun control in 1970.
* From 1971 to 1979, 300,000 Christians, unable to defend themselves, were rounded up and exterminated.

In 1937, four years after the end of Prohibition, the United States Congress enacted the National Firearms Act in direct violation of the Second Amendment to the United States Constitution in order to create jobs for idle Alcohol Revenue agents. This law ultimately led to the creation of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (BATF). In 1993, 86 members of a "religious cult" residing outside Waco, Texas were exterminated by the BATF because of unsubstantiated allegations that they had failed to purchase $200 tax stamps for certain firearms in their possession as required by the unconstitutional 1937 National Firearms Act. Congress is currently considering passage of additional unconstitutional gun control laws in response to a few widely-reported-by-the-corporate-media acts of mass violence perpetrated by deranged individuals. It remains to be seen how many more innocent members of minority groups will be exterminated in the name of these unconstitutional laws.

If you were adding up the numbers, the amount would total 56 million innocent people who were slaughtered by their own governments; governments that had first rendered their citizens defenseless by restricting or confiscating guns.

People are at far more risk from their own government than all the Eric Harrises and Dylan Kiebolds of the world.

"Both the oligarch and Tyrant mistrust the people, and therefore deprive them of arms."
-- Aristotle

"After a shooting spree, they always want to take the guns away from the people who didn't do it."
--William S. Burroughs

"Germans who wish to use firearms should join the SS or the SA. Ordinary citizens don't need guns, as their having guns doesn't serve the State"
-- Heinrich Himmler, Nazi leader

Help make genocide safe for the governments of the world:
Support international gun control.

Gun Control: White Man's Law - the racist and elitist roots of gun control:

The Racist Origins of US Gun Control;

The history of gun control in America has targeted blacks and other minorities. Citizens Opposing Racism and Discrimination (CORAD) believes that gun control on law-abiding citizens is racist:

The Racist Roots of Gun Control:
Stalin, Pol Pot & Hitler were all  for gun control
Stalin, Pol Pot & Hitler were all for gun control

richard, gringo; have you heard of this? 25.Jul.2004 03:53



"Title XI of the Federal Violent Crime Control Act of 1994 banned the manufacture and import of a certain class of guns defined by Congress as "Assault Weapons." These firearms were categorized as such by certain identifying features, namely cosmetic and ergonomic features that present a military-like appearance, but have absolutely no effect on lethality. The act also bans so-called "high capacity" magazines. The provisions of this Act are scheduled to expire automatically on September 13th, 2004.

The goal of this organization is to nurture a grass roots movement of honest citizens who want to make certain that this Act does indeed sunset, as it should. The focus of our website is to educate gun owners and non-gun owners alike with information about the history and provisions of the Assault Weapons Ban, and gun control in general. We are not working to just end this ban, but also to prohibit any further Federal action in this regard.

Please take a few moments to visit the forums, read the materials, and then get involved! We need your help and support in asking your local gun store or gun show to post the banners and flyers, and to write letters. This is about you helping to preserve your rights, so let's get started!"

APS and Gun Control 25.Jul.2004 07:13

Martin S. White martin@naicr.org

Corporate Liberals and Conservative elites of America alike seek bans on guns. It is part of their NWO agenda which may result in the enslavement of well over 95% of the population on Earth. One of the primary tools utilized in the gun control movement is Active Physical Surveillance (APS). To many people, APS is known as "mind control" and "MKULTRA." However, the MKULTRA hearings in the 70's were a massive modified limited hangout to coverup the true existing APS system. I have researched this system as a non-victim for over 10 years. One of my conclusions is that most, if not all, mass shootings in the past 3-4 decades in the US, which have been the justification for gun control, are the direct or indirect results of intervention via the APS system. In effect, it appears that APS simulates "mental illness." Unfortunately the vast majority of "educated" human bipeds don't understand that "mental illness" really doesn't exist as something well-definable (true, there are Organic Brain Disorders with real physical causes), but is more of a social-control mechanism utilized by elites in their drive to enslave mankind. The high priests of this subsystem in the overall NWO control hierarchy are the psychiatrists. Psychiatry, which is a pseudoscience, works closely with government police agencies to coverup the mass shooting atrocities instigated via the APS system by labeling the targetted, often unwitting, participants as "mentally ill." It is imperative that if you want to understand the main tool used to disarm the population consequent to martial law, you research the APS (aka by the inappropriate term "microwave mind control") system. For APS is another form of "low-intensity" terrorism being used on the populations of westernized countries in order to hasten the NWO conquest.

The Linus Premise 26.Jul.2004 03:13


Keep clinging to your guns, it's like a security blanket isn't it?

The federal government has many decades of experience in quelling popular insurgencies all over the globe. Whatever kind of resistance you would be able to launch, whatever kind of security you can provide for your organization, it won't be enough to counter the big dogs. They'll buy you out, put you down, infiltrate, humiliate, and make your support dissolve. If push comes to shove they'll just firebomb a school full of kids and blame it on you. If you haven't figured it out by now, these guys don't f-around.

Beyond that, gun owners in this country are the probably among the most haopless propoganda victims in the country. They have consistently been manipulated into voting Republican against the interests of their own liberty, freedom, financial interests, and the interests of this country. What good will guns do when ypur future has already been bought and sold in DC?

My advice, get involved in politics now and start making a difference instead of clinging to the .06 waiting for things to go to shat.

Tip to the uniformed 26.Jul.2004 07:18

The UN troops are here

The successive Presidents in America who work for their bosses in the NWO have followed orders in disarming the American people. They always use terror to move their agenda forward. The only thing left holding back their desire for genocide against the American people is the fear of the individual gun owner whoever and wherever he is.

Their foreign UN "peacekeeping" soldiers have been here on our soil for years now. They are on former bases and on sections of our military bases that are top-secret and off-limits for American soldiers.

They are here to serve the NWO because our soldiers were pre-screened to see if they would fire on American citizens if ordered to do so and they said no. Those men and women are now overseas in harms way and being filled with vaccine poisons, demoralizing orders and constant brainwashing. They are and not being allowed to quit or come home.

So who are they putting in uniform for the Federal police in the newly created Homeland Security?
How about Foreign UN military that would just love to push Americans around and follow their NWO leaders orders.

If this all sounds crazy to you it is because you have not be following what has been going on in this country behind the scenes for years. The American militia and gun owners are being manipulated into believing those horrible soldiers and police are all corrupt Americans when most are really foreign troops under the cover of the shadow government, posing as one of us.

Check out if these uniformed police without badges or ID's can speak English without accents, and I don't mean Spanish or Urdu, but German or Russian and other languages from the former Soviet bloc staes.

re Rubby 26.Jul.2004 10:13

Seditious Sam

...hey, Rubby, shooting back is the purest form of politics.

WRONG, Rubby & UN troops fearer 26.Jul.2004 11:13


Rubby, "Getting involved in politics" is exactly the impotent distraction meant to siphon real dissent off into a void of electoral politics, campaigning, and other BS proven year after year to do nothing but studiously ignore th ereal problems.

Your defeatism re: owning guns is similarly oibedient thinking, propagated by TV and school. Actually you are totally wrong. In the end, it is the government which will fall. Every empire does. And in the 60s/70s when the people were most militant, is when most progressive advanmces were made, despite government resistance to that.

The establishment wants nothing more than the people to do idiotic nothings such as writing your congressperson and voting for the lesser genocidal maniac and the like. Establishment politics is exactly that: for, by and of the establishment.

To "The UN Troops are here" - You have it back asswards. The US government is the one calling the shots, not the UN. You have an infantile grasp of power politics if you think that a relatively militarily powerless org like the UN has any sway over the US. It is the US which has power over the UN, despite the paranoid right-wing internet ravings you might have swallowed whole. Your assertion can't be very well proved, can it? So you simply make assertions. You somehow believe that the US govt should be saved from these evil foreign invaders? The US govt is the enemy. The UN is a bunch of suits that do little unless the US lets them. Your xenophobia (ooooo Germans and Russians, ooooo) is out of control. The US doesn't give up its foreign bases, let alone its domestic militaryu bases. How eaxcatly are you to privy to "what is happy behind the scenes" besides the internet writings of people you don't know and never met? You are a dupe, sadly.

Capitalist bosses are real, can be independantly corroboratable, and do real harm to working people every day. They are REAL. They are carrying out the slaughter of many thousands openly, as covered by corporate news. Your UN bugaboos are not real.

Linus II 29.Jul.2004 02:20


In my own defense, when I mentioned "getting involved" I wasn't really talking about writing letters. I mean, shit, like 60% of the people in this country didn't want to set foot in Iraq if you look at the honest polls and not the ones asking vague-assed questions like "would you support military action against Iraq?" after asking a few lead-up questions like "do you think he has nukes?" or "do you think he could be a threat to the US?" I'm talking about the polls that just flat out asked people if they wanted to invade Iraq to secure energy resources in preparation for WW3. Most people said no, the government went ahead as planned, democracy be damned. Those tax cuts nobody wanted - same deal.

What I meant was like attending some local meetings, distributing information to the uninformed, tossing a few bricks, whatever your bag. I just see too many people with good intentions rotting away on their couch reading gun trader mags and waiting for the shit to hit. I mean, if you're that much of a defeatist, why not just start shooting now? At least you'd catch people with their guard down. If not, then in the meantime, why not (1) give the current system a go and participate, (2) try to disrupt or change it, and (3) prepare for its inevitable demise - all at the same time? It seems more effective to hedge your bet 3 ways.

From what I've seen, the gun guys are mostly just a waste. I'm not saying not to keep guns. Keep an arsenal. (BTW: Get nightvision, it's rad! WW3 will happen in the dark.) Just don't cling to it as a false sense of security while you stand by and watch things fall to shit. It's as bad as the fundamentalists secretly hoping for the apocalypse (What would make the Reverend Falwell happier?), always wanting some holy war to get rolling so they can be proven right.

Peace out

About time!!! 24.Oct.2004 21:13

Liberals With Guns

Conservatives have been proponents of gun control just as much as liberals have when it suits their purposes! Leftists need to get over their fear of guns. See www.liberalswithguns.com