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Sodomizing Children at Abu Ghraib "Worked"!

I and millions of others have seen Byron York in a CSPAN "Washington Journal" interview a couple weeks ago saying that, whatever the torture methods used in Abu Ghraib and other US military prisons, "...it is, in fact, working." He's said it more than once. The first sentence of an article he wrote, shown on the same program, was "Torture? Whatever it was, it worked."
Byron York: Sodomizing Children at Abu Ghraib "Worked"!

A BUZZFLASH READER CONTRIBUTION
by Scott McGlasson

I and millions of others have seen Byron York in a CSPAN "Washington Journal" interview a couple weeks ago saying that, whatever the torture methods used in Abu Ghraib and other US military prisons, "...it is, in fact, working." He's said it more than once. The first sentence of an article he wrote, shown on the same program, was "Torture? Whatever it was, it worked."

Now we know that part of "whatever" was sodomizing screaming Iraqi boys. York and nearly everyone else already knew that it included forced masturbation and sodomizing with light sticks, along with secret, old techniques from Vietnam, and I'm sure many knew this horrific story too. Certainly the Republicans privy to the details of investigations knew it.

 http://informationclearinghouse.info/article6492.htm

York would not even flat condemn "interrogation resulting in death." He dismissed it with comments about possible "unknown medical conditions." This is real, guys. It was done. There is more and more evidence with every investigation, and now that information is out, do you really think you can bury this? It hasn't worked for other crimes of the Bush administration, despite your best efforts to divert public attention from it.

The support among conservatives for York is obvious. Not a single major conservative figure has said anything to disagree with York. They know his opinions, and clearly agree. York and his conservative comrades are beyond sick, and soon everyone will know it.

I can't wait until the American people find this out, and believe me, this is going to come out. I want to see York defend his support for raping children in interviews. I want to see clips of York saying "it worked," along with the documentation showing that "it" included raping children and other horrors. No journalist or pundit would discuss the prison abuse scandal without knowing what it was about, of course, so York knew precisely what he was talking about.

This is the inescapable fact that America needs to know -- conservatives knew the stomach-turning details of the prison abuse incidents, and they still defend these practices.

I want it live, on prime time TV. I want to see how much York gave to the Bush campaign, and clips showing York praising Bush / Cheney. I want the world to see him say "it worked." I want to see York explain to the world his theory of raping children to make America safer. Then we can see the ample documentation from the International Red Cross showing that 70% to 90% of Iraqi detainees are there "by mistake."

The era of trust and respect for conservative media is coming to an ugly, shameful end. The world can no longer tolerate this immoral insanity.

Scott McGlasson
Denver, CO

dude, give it up! 20.Jul.2004 10:03

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Wake up! Anyone who still supports GW at this point couldn't give a rat's ass. You could show them secret pictures of George himself sodomizing Iraqi schoolgirls and it wouldn't matter (as long as he didn't do it to an intern in the Awful Office, of course!)

Media Controls what they hear and see and read 20.Jul.2004 10:18

VoteNader 04

then around 40 -50% (depending on which poll and what was asked in it) Of American's couldn't give a rats ass.

There's a storm a 'comin...

Catagory 5 20.Jul.2004 12:02

Storm

U bet there's a storm a comin. First they will grind us into poverty. Then we will beg for mercy and follow any chrismatic leader who offers us the dignity of a job, a uniform, and a decent living. They first performed the experiment in Germany - it was called National Socialism. They proved it works. We're next.

Victor Hugo was right. We live on a prison planet.

The people 20.Jul.2004 13:32

have no voice

When the ministers of Truth proclaim what "we" think they simply declare it. As for torture and child abuse no one except the morally bankrupt supports this. Coming from a government where 85% of the people polled were against NAFTA and GATT and then it is imposed on us, then what we think has never mattered.

Torturing Children 20.Jul.2004 14:19

Bird dog

By William Rivers Pitt

Tuesday 20 July 2004

The biggest story of the Iraq war is not about missing weapons of mass destruction, or about deep-cover CIA officers getting their covers blown by vengeful White House agents, or even about 896 dead American soldiers. These have been covered to one degree or another, and then summarily dismissed, by the American mainstream news media. The biggest story of the Iraq war has not enjoyed any coverage in America, though it has been exploding across the international news media for several weeks now.

The biggest story of the Iraq war is about the torture of Iraqi children.

A German TV magazine called 'Report Mainz' recently aired accusations from the International Red Cross, to the effect that over 100 children are imprisoned in U.S.- controlled detention centers, including Abu Ghraib. "Between January and May of this year, we've registered 107 children, during 19 visits in 6 different detention locations," said Red Cross representative Florian Westphal in the report.

The report also outlined eyewitness testimony of the abuse of these children. Staff Sergeant Samuel Provance, who was stationed at Abu Ghraib, said that interrogating officers had gotten their hands on a 15 or 16 year old girl. Military police only stopped the interrogation when the girl was half undressed. A separate incident described a 16 year old being soaked with water, driven through the cold, smeared with mud, and then presented before his weeping father, who was also a prisoner.

Seymour Hersh, the New Yorker reporter who first broke the story of torture at Abu Ghraib, recently spoke at an ACLU convention. He has seen the pictures and the videotapes the American media has not yet shown. "The boys were sodomized with the cameras rolling, and the worst part is the soundtrack, of the boys shrieking," said Hersh. "And this is your government at war."

Hersh described the prison scene as, "a series of massive crimes, criminal activity by the president and the vice president, by this administration anyway," and that there has been, "a massive amount of criminal wrongdoing that was covered up at the highest command out there, and higher."

Reports of abuses at Abu Ghraib and other American prisons have been public knowledge since the release of the Taguba Report. Recently, however, some 106 annexes to the report, previously classified, have also been released. U.S. News and World Report detailed the sum of what is contained in these annexes in an article titled 'Hell on Earth.'

In it, U.S. News says, "The abuses took place, the files show, in a chaotic and dangerous environment made even more so by the constant pressure from Washington to squeeze intelligence from detainees. Riots, prisoner escapes, shootings, corrupt Iraqi guards, unsanitary conditions, rampant sexual misbehavior, bug-infested food, prisoner beatings and humiliations, and almost-daily mortar shellings from Iraqi insurgents--according to the annex to General Taguba's report, that pretty much sums up life at Abu Ghraib." According to coalition intelligence officers cited in a Red Cross report from last May, between 70% to 90% of Iraqi detainees held in these prisons were arrested "by mistake." That means they were innocent.

The orders to treat prisoners in this fashion were not manufactured by the few "bad apples" we have heard about, but came from up on high. Brig. Gen Janis Karpinski, former commander of Abu Ghraib and now scapegoat for the abuses, says the truth about where the orders came from would be revealed in the trials of the accused soldiers. Memos ordering the abuse of prisoners were signed off on by Defense Secretary Rumsfeld. The Justice Department and Mr. Bush's senior legal advisor went out of their way to craft arguments justifying this, claiming that torture isn't really torture and that the President is basically above the law.

Mr. Hersh will revisit this issue within the next several weeks. In the meantime, the American news media has an obligation to report on this situation. Photographic and videotape evidence of this torture is currently in the hands of the New Yorker, the Washington Post, the U.S. Congress and the White House. It must be released.

We invaded a country based upon the false claim that Iraq was allied with al Qaeda. We invaded a country based on the false claim that there were weapons of mass destruction which needed to be destroyed. We promised freedom and democracy, and instead installed a CIA-trained strongman named Allawi who has all but created a dictatorship in Iraq, and who has been accused of killing Iraqi prisoners by his own hand. 896 American soldiers have died so we could do this.

We took thousands of innocent civilians off the streets in Iraq and threw them into hellhole prisons, where they were beaten, raped, and killed. This story has faded from public view because no new pictures of the abuses have come out in the last several weeks. Those pictures are out there, and they show the rape and torture of children. The international media is reporting on it. Coalition ally Norway may be preparing to flee Iraq because of the allegations regarding these children.

Where is the American news media? Where are the pictures? Who is responsible for this abomination? Torturing children in the name of freedom? Is this what we have become?

German TV news report: Children at Abu Ghraib 20.Jul.2004 17:49

have you seen the video?

Three days ago, a German TV newsmagazine called Report Mainz broadcast an eight-minute segment reporting that the International Red Cross found at least 107 children in coaliton-administered detention centers in Iraq.

The report also quotes from a yet-unpublished June 2004 UNICEF report, which (as near as I can tell through my crappy German) confirms that children were routinely arrested and "interned" in a camp in Um-Qasr. UNICEF seems particularly vexed with the "internment" status, since that means indefinite detention.

Another storm seems about to begin. Possibly a large one.

Even if you have no German at all, hit the link and watch the video. (Click where it says "Beitrag ansehen" and you'll get a RealVideo stream. I'd include a direct link but the server seems to require you to link from the page.) There's some footage of the internment camps here that you're not likely to see on American TV. The link also includes a complete transcript, in German.

German (with video):
 http://www.swr.de/report/archiv/sendungen/040705/02/frames.html

English (no video):
 http://www.swr.de/report/archiv/sendungen/040705/07/frames.html


German help for the Teutonically impaired 21.Jul.2004 03:55

Rubby

It sort of works, just paste the text in and hit the "free translation button".

 http://www.freetranslation.com/

AND WE WONDER WHY IRAQIS HATE US SO MUCH 10.Aug.2004 17:07

MRS. J GARNER

by treating iraqis as we have and are, we have opened the door to the same treatment for our military in the mid east. not only the military but any and all civilians who venture to that part of the world

we have definitely opened the door to the world court for crimes against humanity, which we sadly deserve after this treatment of iraqis.

shame on our military and our leaders for allowing and sponsoring this kind of filth, and hiding behind some kind of religious facade as our leaders are doing.