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NAIL IT TO THE DOOR of the White House: 76 9-11 Theses That Have Evidence for Complicity

GRIFFIN'S LISTS (W/MORE ADDED ON ANTHRAX AND MOSSAD THAT HE LEAVES OUT):

List 1: The evidence for Official Complicity: A Summary (37 points)

List 2: The Problems for a Coincidence Theory (39 points)
Griffin writes: "Even more important, critics of the official account point out, rejection of the conspiracy theory exacts a high price. . .It would be hard to deny that the critics of the official account have discerned a pattern. They have shown that many otherwise puzzling events—-before, during, and after 9-11—-can be explained by the theory that high-level officials in the US government conspired to allow the attacks to occur and then to cover up this fact. Given that pattern, the price for rejecting this conspiracy theory is to accept a coincidence theory. And, critics of the official account can point out, the number of coincidences that would need to be accepted is enormous. A complete list would include the following coincidences:..." [so, you can hit conspiracy deniers with both a right (complicity list) and left (helpfully pointing out all the silly things they accept when they say 'coicidence'] --- Plus some handy pictures, in one place at this weblink, to pass around.
Sharp Seismic shocks before any WTC tower collapses
Sharp Seismic shocks before any WTC tower collapses
Griffin's book: from which most of these lists points derive and are documented
Griffin's book: from which most of these lists points derive and are documented
Calm beautiful day at 9-11 Pentagon after small missile hit
Calm beautiful day at 9-11 Pentagon after small missile hit
Pentagon:where it came to rest, obviously small & light enough to carry out/hide
Pentagon:where it came to rest, obviously small & light enough to carry out/hide
Sweet smell of covert op success:smiling civil Penta.-suits illegally clear up
Sweet smell of covert op success:smiling civil Penta.-suits illegally clear up
The 'something' being carried away, light as a feather, HIDDEN under a tarp
The 'something' being carried away, light as a feather, HIDDEN under a tarp
Adapted from The New Pearl Harbor by David Ray Griffith, a professor of theology and ethics

poster's comment: I have added 13 more to his 24 (which were listed his conclusion on page 134-5). Additional ones are mostly dealing with WTC attacks, Mossad connections, and anthrax attacks (the latter two of which his book unfortunately ignores though in my opinion it includes the best description so far for everything else mentioned, accessibly, calmly, with evidence from regular corporate media, in one place. Since his book is fully titled only The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions about the **Bush Administration** and 9/11—instead of The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions about the 9/11 Attacks in General--I have taken the liberty of adding a bit more from my research, in the form of his pithy blurbs.

And if you like STREET THEATER, read it this outloud in public in your home town and see what happens.


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The evidence for Official Complicity: A Summary

1. Evidence that the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq were already planned for geopolitical rationales, so that 9-11 provided not the rationale for the wars but merely the pretext.

2. Evidence that men with connections to Al-Queda were allowed into the United States (because they were working on a CIA cover operation that involved laying down fake Arab memes for future U.S. imperialist attacks), in spite of regulations that should have kept them out. Evidence that the CIA connections to Al-Queda, are as strong as ever.

3. Evidence that men with connections to Al-Queda were allowed to train in US flight schools and had connections to secure US military bases and US spy training bases.

4. Evidence that the attacks of 9-11 could not have succeeded without an order from the highest level of government to suspend normal operating procedures for responding to hijackings.

5. Evidence that US political and military leaders made misleading and even false statements about their response to the hijackings, and evidence that their collective official story about the events of 9-11 has merely been an ongoing adaptation to any criticism made up on the fly, made up by different persons in different circumstances, leading to a self-contradictory promulgating of any official story: there is still a lack of coordination on one supposed official story.

6. Evidence that people/ identities whom the FBI blamed for the 'suicide attacks' are very much alive and living in the Middle East, while, when this came to light, no one in the FBI has bothered to come forward on explaining who then were the actual presumed people, if any, on the planes.

7. Evidence in particular that the presently accepted official account, according to which jet fighter planes were scrambled but arrived too late, was invented some days after 9-11. Moreover, originally, the official story was that UAL93 had been shot down. Moreover, the Pentagon hit story concerning AA77 was only invented later in the afternoon on 9-11.

8. Evidence that the collapse of the WTC buildings was brought about by expertly laid controlled explosives, detonated floor by floor; moreover, participation by the US government in the prevention of an adequate examination of the debris, especially the steel, constitutes evidence of its participation in a cover-up.

9. Evidence that someone in authority sought to ensure that there would be deaths in the attacks on the second WTC tower and the Pentagon by not having these buildings evacuated.

10. Evidence that what hit the Pentagon was not a Boeing 757 but a much smaller aircraft, such as a guided missile.

11. Evidence that what hit the WTC1 was not the AA11 Boeing 757 but a much smaller substitute aircraft with wings as wide as a 757, and which was capable of firing a payload into the building before entering it, and that evidence of just such an explosion was altered in video evidence later, which constitutes participation in a cover-up.

12. Evidence that what hit the WTC2 was not UAL175 but a substitute plane of comparable size capable of delivering similar missile payloads.

13. Evidence that Flight 93 landed at Cleveland Hopkins Airport and its substitute was shot down over Pennsylvania by an unmarked white military plane that flies comparable to a F-16.

14. Evidence that NORAD officials have directly lied and contradicted other 9-11 testimony, particularly concerning though hardly limited to Cleveland Hopkins Airport on 9-11.

15. Evidence that Secretary of Defense Rumsfeld revealed advance knowledge of two of the attacks.

16. Evidence that Bush on 9-11 feigned ignorance of the occurrence and seriousness of the attacks.

17. Evidence that Bush—and at least part of his Secret Service—knew on 9-11 that he or the White House would not be a target of any of the plane attacks.

18. Evidence that the FBI had specific knowledge of the time and targets of the attacks at least a month in advance.

19. Evidence that the FBI has destroyed 9-11 evidence, lied about evidence, and/or has refused to enter such 9-11 that they have publicly into any 9-11 trials or attempts at trials, which constitutes evidence of participation in a cover-up.

20. Evidence that the anthrax attacks were designed to pressure only select members of Congress and the media who had a history of opposing the Bush administration or the Bush family personally, particularly those who were vocally opposed to passage of the unconstitutional Patriot Act after 9-11 or who had in the past embarrassed the Bush family personally in the media.

21. Evidence that the Bush administration was aware specifically that anthrax would be released through the mails after the attacks within one month (the anthrax incubation period) as Bush's whole Cabinet and many others were taking the anthrax medication Cipro before the 9-11 attacks (from September 10, 2001), only days before the first anthrax letters were mailed out.

22. Evidence that the anthrax attacks were specifically designed to sell Cipro and reward Bush family connected private investments in Cipro patent holders and the main companies that make it for the public and the U.S. military. Cipro is the only FDA authorized medicine in the U.S. for anthrax, and it is extremely overpriced compared to the rest of the whole world, where there are many other anti-anthrax drugs that are more suitable for anthrax inhalation. Evidence that the anthrax attacks were designed to be profitable, both politically profitable and economically profitable, for the Bush family personally.

23. Evidence that the US PATRIOT Act and Homeland Security concepts were already written as a bill and prepared before 9-11.

24. Evidence that the CIA and other intelligence agencies would have had very specific advance knowledge of the attacks by means of the put options purchased shortly before 9-11, and, their refusal to reveal who attempted to profit with foreknowledge of 9-11 despite real time knowledge of the trades, constitutes evidence of US official participation in a cover-up.

25. Evidence that the Bush administration lied about not having had specific warnings about the attacks.

26. Evidence that the FBI and other federal agencies prevented investigations prior to 9-11 that might have uncovered the plot.

27. Evidence that US officials sought to conceal evidence of involvement by Pakistan's ISI in the planning of 9-11.

28. Evidence that US officials sought to conceal the presence of the ISI chief in Washington during the week of 9-11.

29. Evidence that the FBI and other federal agencies blocked investigations after the attacks that might have revealed the true perpetrators.

30. Evidence that the United States did not really seek to kill or capture Osama bin Laden either before or after the attacks.

31. Evidence that figures central to the Bush administration had desired a 'new Pearl Harbor' because of various benefits it would bring.

32. Evidence that a US-based spy ring of Israeli covert intelligence organization Mossad had pre-awareness of exactly when and where the attacks would be occurring, as well evidence that some cells of Al-Queda were Mossad and US CIA operatives and/or double agents, or were being monitored by Mossad in real time.

33. Evidence that a Mossad spy ring has been attempting terrorist operations on United States soil (and Mexican soil) after 9-11 as well, and that they have been protected by the Bush administration and the Vincente Fox administration in the process and afterwards.

34. Evidence of a Saudi royal family connection to funding of Al-Queda for the 9-11 operations, particularly those close to the Bush family.

35. Evidence of motive provided by the predictable benefits that this event, called by Bush himself "the Pearl Harbor of the 21st century," did bestow on the Bush administration.

36. Evidence against the alterative explanation—the incompetence theory—provided by the fact that those who were allegedly guilty of incompetence were not fired but, in some cases, promoted for distracting or hindering attempts at pre-9-11 investigations.

37. Evidence that the 1993 WTC attack, the 1995 Murrah Building attack, participation with the NATO invasion of Yugoslavia, the 'terrorist' invasion and destabilization of Chechnya, the bombing of US embassies, the bombing of the USS Cole, and the 9-11 attacks have involved the same protected globalized terrorist network acting overtly for publicly constructed blame or covertly to distract actual blame, using high level participation and sponsorship by the executive of the United States (and Britain, Pakistan, and Israel) and the CIA throughout.



poster's comment: The best aspect of these summary sections in Griffin's conclusion is that he addresses the large amount of evidence that would have to be accepted if one were to propose a coincidence theory. This is the same argument as the above in other words, done in inverse, by listing the large number of evidential pieces that would have to be accepted as coincidence if one wanted to claim a coincidence theory:


Problems for a Coincidence Theory

Griffin writes: "Even more important, critics of the official account point out, rejection of the conspiracy theory exacts a high price. . .It would be hard to deny that the critics of the official account have discerned a pattern. They have shown that many otherwise puzzling events—-before, during, and after 9-11—-can be explained by the theory that high-level officials in the US government conspired to allow the attacks to occur and then to cover up this fact. Given that pattern, the price for rejecting this conspiracy theory is to accept a coincidence theory. And, critics of the official account can point out, the number of coincidences that would need to be accepted is enormous. A complete list would include the following coincidences:"


1. Several FAA flight controllers exhibited extreme incompetence on 9-11, and evidently on that day only.

2. The officials in charge at both the NMCC and NORAD also acted incompetently on 9-11, and evidently on that day only.

3. In particular, when NMCC-NORAD officials did finally order jet fighters to be scrambled to protect New York and Washington, they ordered them in each case from more distant bases, rather than from McGuire and Andrews, respectively.

4. After public statements saying that Andrews Air Force Base had no jet fights on alert to protect Washington, its website, which had previously said that many jets were always on alert, was altered.

5. Several pilots who normally are airborne and going full speed in under three minutes all took much longer to get up on 9-11.

6. The same pilots, flying planes capable of going 1,500 to 1,850 miles per hour, on that day were all evidently able to get their planes to fly only 300 to 700 miles per hour.

7. The collapse of the buildings of the World Trade Center, besides occurring at almost free-fall speed, exhibited other signs of being controlled demolitions: molten steel, seismic shocks, and fine dust were all produced.

8. The video and physical evidence suggesting that controlled demolition was the cause of the collapse of the Twin Towers co-exists with testimony from people in these buildings that they heard, felt, and saw the effects of explosions.

9. The collapse of WTC1 and WTC2 had some of the same features as the collapse of WTC-7, even though the latter collapse could not be attributed to the impact and jet fuel of an airplane.

10. Both the North Tower and the South Tower collapsed just as their respective fires were dying down, even though this meant that the South Tower, which had been hit second, collapsed first.

11. Governmental agencies had the debris, including the steel, from the collapsed WTC buildings illegally removed without investigation, which is what would be expected if the government wanted to prevent evidence of explosives from being discovered.

12. Physical evidence suggesting that what hit the Pentagon could not have been a Boeing 757 co-exists with testimony of several witnesses that the aircraft that did hit the Pentagon was far smaller than a 757.

13. This evidence about the aircraft that hit the Pentagon co-exists with reports that Flight 77 'crashed' (i.e., at least went down off the radar screen and landed at a secure military base) in Kentucky or Ohio.

14. This evidence co-exists with the fact that the only evidence that Flight 77 did not crash was supplied by an attorney closely associated with the Bush administration. It would have to be just another related coincidence that this someone had previously been well known to have publicly stated that the U.S. government can justify (to itself) its actions whenever it wants when lying to the American people.

15. Evidence that Flight77 did not return to Washington to hit the Pentagon co-exists with the fact that when the flight control transcript was released, the final 20 minutes were missing.

16. The fact that the aircraft that hit the Pentagon did so only after executing a very difficult maneuver co-exists with the fact that it struck a section of the Pentagon that, besides containing none of its leaders, was the section in which the strike would cause the least death and destruction.

17. On the same day in which jet fighters were unable to protect the Pentagon from an attack by a single airplane, the missiles that normally protect the Pentagon and the White House (which the Pentagon hit plane passed over) also failed to do so.

18. [ I have changed #18] The fact that cell phones fail to operate for durable calls, if at all for short calls, at the altitudes that these planes were flying due to personal cell phone range and because any said claimed calls would be dependent on improbable situations of cell phone towers passing off phone calls on a rapidly passing ground below actually beyond cell phone tower design purposes and personal cell phone distance, co-exists with evidence that cell phone calls were entirely scripted events. [ and this additionally co-exists with evidence that the people presumably on cell phone calls preferred leaving answering machine messages when they could or preferred to talk to total strangers instead of their loved ones.]

19. This evidence that Flight 93 was shot down co-exists with reports from both civilian and military leaders that there was intent to shoot this flight down.

20. [I have deleted #20] The only plane that was evidently shot down, Flight 93, was the only one that was late

21. [I have changed this one, with updated information from "The Cleveland Airport Mystery" which was unavailable to Griffin when he wrote it] The evidence that Flight 93 landed at Cleveland Hopkins Airport under lock down situations co-exists with the fact that the flight control transcript for this flight was not released.

22. That coincidence co-exists with the fact that when the cockpit recording of Flight 93 was released, the final three minutes were missing.[In my opinion, the entirely cockpit recording was later staged and played to family members to get them accepting of their 'heroic' families, instead of angry that they had been murdered in the secure NASA facility at Cleveland Hopkins Airport.

23. Evidence showing that the US government had far more specific evidence of what was to occur on 9-11 than it has admitted co-exists with evidence that it actively blocked investigations that might have prevented the attacks.

24. Reports of obstructions from FBI agents in Minneapolis co-exist with similar reports from Chicago and New York.

25. Reports of such obstructions prior to 9-11 co-exist with reports that investigations after 9-11 were also obstructed.

26. These reports of obstructionism co-exist with multiple reports suggesting that the US government did not really try to capture or kill Osama bin Laden either prior to or after 9-11, with the result that several people independently suggested that the US government must be working for bin Laden—or vice versa.

27. All these reports of investigative obstructionism co-exist with reports of hijackers being allowed in the country in spite of known terrorist connections or visa violations.

28. These reports about immigration violations co-exist with evidence that some of these same men were allowed to train at US flight schools, some on military bases.

29. This evidence of training at various American flight schools co-exists with reports that US officials tried conceal this evidence.

30. The traumatic events of 9-11 occurred just a year after a document published by the Project for the New American Century, an organization whose founders included several men who became central figures in the Bush administration, referred to benefits that coul come from 'a new Pearl Harbor.'

31. The "unifying Pearl Harbor sort of purple American fury" produced by the 9-11 attacks did publicly benefit for the most part the Bush administration in many ways.

32. A credible report that spokespersons for the Bush administration had earlier announced that the US government was planning a war on Afghanistan, which would begin before the middle of October, co-exists with the fact that the attacks of 9-11, by occurring on that date, gave US military forces time to be ready to attack Afghanistan on October 7.

33. Ahmad Masood, whose continued existence would have posed problems for US plans in Afghanistan, was assassinated, reportedly by ISI operatives, just after the head of the ISI, General Mahmood Ahmad, had been meeting in Washington for several days with the head of the CIA.

34. In the White House's version of the recording of Condoleeza Rice's press briefing on May 16, the only portion that was inaudible was the portion in which the person under discussion, mentioned as having been in Washington on 9-11, was identified as "the ISI Chief."

35. Evidence of official efforts to conceal General Ahmad's presence in Washington co-exists with evidence that, after it became known that General Ahmad had ordered $100,000 wired to Mohammad Atta, US leaders exerted pressure on the ISI to dismiss him from his post quietly.

36. [added] Evidence that General Ahmad was having breakfast on 9-11 with the respective House and Senate Intelligence Committee heads in the Capitol building—later to 'investigate' 9-11—co-exists with evidence that General Ahmad had ordered $100,000 wired to Mohammad Atta.

37. These attempts to conceal General Ahmad's involvement in 9-11 co-exists with evidence that the FBI and other federal agencies sought to obscure the fact that Saeed Shiekh, the man who wired the money to Atta, was an ISI agent.

38. The fact that agents in FBI headquarters who presided over the alleged intelligence failure that allowed 9-11 to happen, widely called the biggest intelligence failure since Pearl Harbor, were promoted instead of fired or otherwise punished co-exists with the fact that other intelligence agencies also reported that there had been no punishments for incompetence related to 9-11.

39. This evidence of lack of punishment for poor performance co-exists with reports that intelligence officers who were diligently trying to pursue investigations related to 9-11 suffered negative treatment from superiors.


Griffin writes:

"But the coincidence theory requires even greater credulity. To accept it requires holding not only that each conjunction of events on the above list—which a conspiracy theory could explain by regarding each one as part of a pattern of events that had been planned—was purely coincidental. It also requires holding that the fact that there are so many events related to 9-11 that involve coincidences—at least 39 such events—is itself purely coincidental.

"Seen in this light, the fact that a complicity theory may not at this time be able to answer all the questions it evokes, revisionists can say, it is a relatively trivial problem. Once the relevant facts are put before us, the official account involves a coincidence theory that would require far greater credulity than that of which 'conspiracy theorists' are accused.

"Furthermore, the fact that the revisionists cannot yet answer all questions would be important only if they were claiming to have presented a fully conclusive case. But they are not. Meyssan, for example, tells readers that he is not asking them to accept his arguments "as the definite truth", but instead hopes that his readers will use his references to examine the evidence for themselves. Ahmed says that the purpose of his book is not to provide a definite account but merely to "clarify the dire need for an in-depth investigation into the events of 11th September."

"My book is an attempt to show, in relatively brief form, that he and the others have done just this."


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The New Pearl Harbor: Disturbing Questions About the Bush Administration and 9/11
by David Ray Griffin
 link to www.amazon.com


To read about anthrax and Mossad requires dipping into these other books/resources

1. " '9/11' ": facing our fascist state, By Don Paul,
 http://www.wireonfire.com/donpaul/911.html

2. Terror Enigma: 9/11 And the Israeli Connection, by Justin Raimondo,
 link to www.amazon.com

3. WAR AND GLOBALISATION: THE TRUTH BEHIND SEPTEMBER 11, by Michel Chossudovsky,
 http://www.globalresearch.ca/globaloutlook/truth911.html

4. The 9-11 Timeline, by Paul Thompson
 http://www.cooperativeresearch.org

5. 911 : The Cleveland Airport Mystery, by Woody Box,  http://inn.globalfreepress.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=323

6. What really happened to American Airlines Flights 11 and 77 on Sept 11, 2001, by Gerard Homgren,
 http://sydney.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=36354&group=webcast
[with the dual Gate 26 and Gate 32 AA11 issue, in the comments]

7. Anthrax Letters overview,
 http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/framingarabs.html


Give the gift that keeps on giving: unfiltered reality.

The latest Deception Dollar -- a great non-internet web reference 06.Jul.2004 01:43

Counterfeit Spender

#7 issued in May has updated websites and spotlights the "Commander in Chief" so you'll know it's fake money.


Wow 06.Jul.2004 05:30

Incredible

Isn't this from the guys who played the "Lone Gunmen" on the X-files?

Important lists. 06.Jul.2004 06:30

Tony Blair's dog

Thanks for the article.

The alleged "Gerard Homgren" 06.Jul.2004 08:30

Already Refuted

disinformation:
==============
6. What really happened to American Airlines Flights 11 and 77 on Sept 11, 2001, by Gerard Homgren,
=============
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/05/288505.shtml

don't buy it

"Already Refuted" 06.Jul.2004 10:32

Tony Blair's dog

Is that so?

By whom?

What is the disinformation in Gerard Holmgren's research?

Exactly why shouldn't people "buy it"?

what a url is for 07.Jul.2004 23:44

Opere Citato (AP)

Tony Blair's Dog why don't you try clicking on the url and reading the refutation before you comment?

huh?

 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/07/292049.shtml

here is the relevant section:

quote:
===============
As for the Pentagon witness reports--many of which refer at least to an AA-marked jet of some kind--it's a fairly standard practice (and not one I particularly like) for journalists to explain that Jerard claims a 767 didn't hit the north tower because there is "no documented evidence that flight 11 took place". The fact that a journalist doesn't quote Jerard verbatim in entirety doesn't automatically devalue the journalist's re_presentation of Jerard's claims, particularly in the context of reporting, uhhh...live verbal exchanges, such as ...uhhh...witness interviews.
===============



UNIDENTIFIED: We've got this other consid-
PRESIDENT: All right, make the best deal you can.
UNIDENTIFIED: Yeah.
PRESIDENT: Do it for two years and, uh, we, uh, we, uh, we know that, uh, and as I say, I appreciate the, the very fine judgment to the contrary which, which you can't do as, uh
HARDIN: Now, we must do one other thing, uh
UNIDENTIFIED: [Unintelligible]
PRESIDENT: Let's let them know what we're doing. That, uh
EHRLICHMAN: Let's get credit.
UNIDENTIFIED: Oh, God, if we're going to do this
CONNALLY: Mr. President
PRESIDENT: Let's
CONNALLY: Please, may I interject a suggestion?
PRESIDENT: Uh, uh
UNIDENTIFIED: [Sighs]
CONNALLY: Uh
PRESIDENT: Anything you like.
CONNALLY: Well, let's don't, let's don't trade the, uh, uh, through Agriculture, uh, on the merits
PRESIDENT: Yeah.
CONNALLY: until, uh, some other conversations are had.
PRESIDENT: Yeah. Yeah.
CONNALLY: Uh
HARDIN: [Unintelligible] we've got a little work to do. We've got to let Page, that, uh

 http://www.archives.gov/nixon/tapes/transcripts/connally_exhibit_1.rtf

Pentagon issue 08.Jul.2004 22:08

ozymandius

quote:
"As for the Pentagon witness reports--many of which refer at least to an AA-marked jet..."

Who, besides you the low-paid troll, U.S. Senators, U.S. Senator aides who claim to have seen it (and all who have a conflict of interest in facilitating the fake story [see the Meyssan books]), and the corporate media that is running a fascist wall of silence around the whole issue, believes that lie about the AA77 hitting the Pentagon anymore?

Yes, marked-up as an AA jet, perhaps. Though the AA77, no! Nothing as big as that Boeing can get through a hole this size. I suggest you go back to talking about some important troll issues like the waist size of Michael Moore, or how liberals are traitors and should be killed for talking or failing to support Bush, or how the whole 9-11 issue has already been completely investigated, etc.

Of course, it is easier for an IMC troll to pass through the eye of a needle, than a Boeing to pass through the Pentagon without leaving any trace--oh yeah, as well as for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God. That's an important point as well.


9/11: The Big Lie
by Thierry Meyssan
 link to www.amazon.com

Pentagate
by Thierry Meyssan
 link to www.amazon.com
9-11: The Big Lie, by Meyssan
9-11: The Big Lie, by Meyssan
Picture for you, & see above one as smoke clears, & as bits illegally removed!
Picture for you, & see above one as smoke clears, & as bits illegally removed!
Pentagate, by Meyssan
Pentagate, by Meyssan

ad hominem, reductio ad absurdum 10.Jul.2004 11:31

Already Published

"ozymandius" - you seem to have neglected the argument while throwing out another.

And it's Thierry's theory again!


What ever happened to the theories of the alleged "Gerarld Holmgren"?



quote:
===============
As for the Pentagon witness reports--many of which refer at least to an AA-marked jet of some kind--it's a fairly standard practice (and not one I particularly like) for journalists to explain that Jerard claims a 767 didn't hit the north tower because there is "no documented evidence that flight 11 took place". The fact that a journalist doesn't quote Jerard verbatim in entirety doesn't automatically devalue the journalist's re_presentation of Jerard's claims, particularly in the context of reporting, uhhh...live verbal exchanges, such as ...uhhh...witness interviews.
===============


"UNLIKE the forked tongue propaganda of the US,
Israel makes it quite CLEAR AND OPEN what its agenda is."


"VAGUE STUFF about Israeli spy rings or some Israeli kids who were SUPPOSEDLY arrested..."


"...BEHAVIOR OF BUSH on the morning ....THAT's what I call EVIDENCE."


BEHAVIOR ON THE MORNING:
================
....caught videotaping the disaster and shouting in what was interpreted as

cries of joy and mockery.
==================

 http://www.haaretzdaily.com/hasen/pages/ShArt.jhtml?itemNo=75266∓contrassID=2


ISRAEL'S CLEAR AND OPEN AGENDA:
=================
"kee betachbulot ta'ase lecha milchama"
"BY way of DECEPTION
THOU SHALT do war"
- Mossad
=================

 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/05/288505.shtml

thanks 10.Dec.2004 00:22

brad peace4u3@ml1.net

thanks for posting this photo.
 http://portland.indymedia.org/media/images/2004/07/292053.jpg
I was hoping someone wold catch on to this, whatever it was, it was too smll to be the nose of the craft. the curvature makes it appear to be about 8ft around.

ALso its unclear what the oficial story is behind this photo?
more info here...
 http://pentagon.batcave.net/hole.html

more info on debris photos here...
 http://77debris.batcave.net/AA.html

great page,
Brad
www.911index.batcave.net


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