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Prisoner 27075 learns limits of sovereignty

Humm so who is realy in charge here?
Humm so who is realy in charge here?


Prisoner 27075 learns limits of sovereignty
By Nicolas Pelham in Baghdad
Published: June 28 2004 19:57 | Last Updated: June 28 2004 19:57

Iyad Akmush Kanum, 23, learnt the limits of sovereignty on Monday when US prosecutors refused to uphold an Iraqi judges' order acquitting him of attempted murder of coalition troops.

US prosecutors said that he was being returned to the controversial Abu Ghraib prison because under the Geneva Conventions they were not bound by Iraqi law.

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I would say he learned the rule of law and so did the Iraki judge 29.Jun.2004 15:21

The law is for everybody including the judges of Irak

Of course you can have sovereignty but the problem is that your sovereignty ends were somebody else's sovereignty begins and the same with laws and rights. A judge must adhere to Government Treaties between countries and international laws that means respecting the sovereignty of the U.S. when a prisoner is UNDER U.S. possession. A judge cannot rule over treaties between the U.S. and Irak simply because of his wish or political view. Treaties , sovereignty are defined by governments not by judges alone. It is another sympton that few people in Irak including judges do not understand "democracy", international obligations, respect of their laws and constitution, and shows that many Iraki people still operate with a mentality where totalitarian power resides in single people such as a "civilian dictator", a pseudo-judge and religios head", or in this case a lone judge. The seriousness of the crime demands a trial by jury, or a military trial, but the era where people can wield absolute power in Irak either by a dictator, a judge, or a clergy ARE OVER !!!

UNDER U.S. POSSESSION - your own words..... 29.Jun.2004 16:07

TheTruth

A judge must adhere to Government Treaties between countries and international laws that means respecting the sovereignty of the U.S. when a prisoner is UNDER U.S. possession.


So really what you are saying here is that IRAQ AND IRAQIS ARE NOT A SOVEREIGNTY NATION YET. I agree with you 100%.

Court set up by the U.S. and judge hand picked by the U.S. 29.Jun.2004 16:10

TheTruth

Another thing it seems you did not really read the article, because if you did you would know that that court was set up by the CPA and the judge was handpicked by them too.

Internatinal humanitarian law 29.Jun.2004 16:17

TheTruth

And since you seemms you think you know more about laws that the Iraqis then I think you need to read what Amnesty is saying:

"Yet if, as the UN resolution [1546] proclaims, occupation effectively ends with the handover, then international humanitarian law requires that all prisoners of war, detainees and internees must be released by the occupying powers."

"Any further detentions by the US and other members of the multinational force after the handover would be unlawful,"

"They may only be re-arrested by the Iraqi authorities if there are grounds under Iraqi law, consistent with international standards, to detain them."