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who is this guy larouche and why is a dedicated group of young people following him around like some kind of enlightend guru?
The kids downtown are passing out glossy brochures which must have cost something to print...

Read a little bit and it's all pretty far out stuff...

I for one am wary of any person/ group/ religion/ etc claiming to have all the answers.


So does anyone know, who is this guy and why do people worship him?

My opinion the only presidential candidate worthy of "worship" is Mr. Kucinich. (Mr Kerry is definately worthy of my vote and I hope you will join me in voting for him)

But really, who is this guy? where's the money coming from for the banners and printing?
Laurouche $$$$ 22.Jun.2004 20:00

chrischross

Well, one source was our tax money:

 http://www.opinionjournal.com/diary/?id=110004379

to tune of $840,000

What I want to know is, who votes for this guy??? I always thought he was some kind of crypto-CIA operative or worse.

Wacko 22.Jun.2004 21:38

Steve

LaRouche is a nut. His "LaRouche Youth Movement" is probably the largest cult in America. They target lonely kids and put them to work. Don't even try to argue with his people. Here are some examples of stuff they have told me. Seriously, I'm not making this shit up.

"Everything you know is wrong."

"You are a tool of the corporate media."

"How did you know LaRouche was in prison, did the media tell you that, you never saw him in there."

"LaRouche has attempts on his life daily."

"Your parents brainwashed you."

"Everything your parents told you is wrong."

The guy is a wacko!! I heard him speak and he was the least charismatic, unintelligent piece of shit I've ever heard. My favorite LaDouche plan is the one he has about building a bridge around the world. I kid you not.

LaRouche has a lot of nothing to say 22.Jun.2004 22:04

Nebore

LaRouche seems to take no solid stand on anything except nuclear energy, which he says should be our only energy source. So if you like nuclear energy, you will love LaRouche.

rock music is a mindcontrol conspiracy, says LaRouche 22.Jun.2004 23:10

GRINGO STARS

And that lascivious jungle music they call JAZZ numbs your brain to the point of abject stupidity, or so claims LaRouche. He also claims that the Beatles and the Grateful Dead are mind control agents, intent on making the world a dumber place.

LaRouche also claims that the revolution would have happened already, if not for the effect of female hesitance. In other words, LaRouche claims that castrating bitches are the only thing in the way of social justice. I'm not making this up! To check out more ingenius LaRouchian absurdities, read this:

"The Beatles had no genuine musical talent, but were a product shaped according to British Psychological Warfare Division (Tavistock) specifications, and promoted in Britain by agencies which are controlled by British intelligence."
-- "Why Your Child Became A Drug Addict" Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr.,
Campaigner Special Report, Copyright 1978

"To the extent that my physical powers do not prevent me, I am now confident and capable of ending your [NCLC members'] political - and sexual - impotence; the two are interconnected aspects of the same problem."
-- "The Politics of Male Impotence," Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr.,
(under pen name L. Marcus) NCLC Internal Document, August 16, 1973

a very good description/history of LaRouche:
 http://www.publiceye.org/larouche/nclc1.html

Not all bad 23.Jun.2004 00:43

Seqnon Rotroper

LaRouche has some significant things to say. It does take a little work to sift through the rather dense verbage in many of the EIR publications. Probably the best to read at the moment are the three "Children of Satan" pamplets. You can download them directly from the LaRouche campaign website at

 http://larouchein2004.net/index.html

Other material at

 http://www.larouchepub.com/

I have been following LaRouche for several year now and have found many of his prognostications to be quite accurate. I believe that he continually bills himself as a Presidential candidate in order to force the politicians to take his doctrines into consideration. Its his way of making sure he has someone's ear, at least.

Sometimes it is very difficult to look at the culture we have grown up in and see how the very culture has been designed to manipulate us. This is especially true in drugs, sex, music, and popular culture. Yet the exercise of introspection can be quite worthwhile. Much of the LaRouche doctine forces introspection - or denial and avoidence.

learn about the WHOLE Larouche enigma before commenting 23.Jun.2004 01:03

me

I'm really surprised that people are really letting this turn into a slug fest, with many one-off epithets that were likely CIA invented to 'get Larouche' to begin with So let's actually analytically discuss Larouche. Come on IMC!




A lot of what Larouche has to say ECONOMICALLY is totally against corporate globalization. He is for national development over international corporate expansion. He basically considers it financial piracy, a financial based developmentalism that is destroying economies and peoples and immiserating people. This is something he despises. He is all for investing in national infrastructure, education, and training. That sets him against the corporate globalists economically. You would think that




Understanding what makes Larouche an enigma is that he cross wires the typical left and right. The establishment hate him because he puts a populist RIGHTIST bent on very leftist national developmental policies, thus potentially appealing to many people.

To elaborate, the right in the US and the left in the US have the same economic policies of corporate globalization. Larouche has always been on the side of the Third World underdog, in terms of nation-state developmentalism having priority over rapacious financiers and corporations. This actually economically makes him a leftist, he's very pro development per se. It's almost a religion to him to bring people up to par with others in the world. That part is fine with me.

However, the right wing of the Republicrats in the U.S. has more and more turned towards the wacko fundamentalist Christian Zionist population and 'family valules.' Conservative socially, Larouche would steal the 'family values' conservatism (he's very anti-1960s and all that) from the right wing and connect it with pretty leftist economic democracy, education, investment, infrastructure, Third World equality, etc. This would mess up how the elite have structured the debate around totally different alliances. Thus he is widely hated by both the left and right wing of Republicrats, he totally messes up and dilutes their divide and conquer game, by being conservative socially and for socially liberal national priorities in development!

As the left wing of the Republicrats has basically abandoned all semblances of economic democracy and concentrates more on gender, ethnicity (if they tangibly do at all! Just letting the Florida civil rights inequalities in the 2000 vote go to hell for instance!) and sexuality types of civil equality. However, very anti-left socially Larouche would be opposed to such 'degradation of traditional developmental values, family values, and hard work' that comes with such identity politics.

In short, Larouche messes up the Republicrat game big time by wedding national economic liberalism with social conservatism. That's why they 'hate' him, and that's why they railroaded him into prison during Bush's presidency. He may have been guilty, though with so much rampant crime to go around, he was definitely in my opinion (and his) picked over with a fine tooth comb to get him OUT of American elite politics.

What made him such enemies in the American political scene? The above policies of his, next, combined with a book called Dope, Inc., which linked back IN EXCRUCIATING DETAIL how elites in Britain and the U.S. are the global drug lords. It is a book worth reading. Third, he is pretty anti-Zionist--as he has a lot of expose on the 'Anti-Defamation League' in that book as well, as basically a political hit squad for Zionist politics and Jewish organized crime operating in the United States.

So you can see he can make many different types of enemies from the left and the right, though interestingly by pointing the finger at the actual drug lords (the U.S. elites, particularly the CIA and the Bushes), and by promoting national developmentalism--he is fine. It's his social policies that drive me crazy, as well as his fixation with equating nuclear power as the only way for some economies to develop. Although I would say he is correct (from reading others) that there were plans to destroy Third World energy independence in the 1970s to the present, particularly with regards to nuclear, I would hardly support his pro-nuclear stance for everywhere in the world, and would support its total ban in the world, as Germany has agreed to do last year in a slow phase out.

See look at his news page this evening:


Vol. 30, No. 24, June 20, 2003
LaRouche Demands Iraq Answers From Vice President Cheney

Cheney Impeachable for Ordering Intelligence Frauds

LaRouche BBC Interview: `Cheney Is Very Much Under the Gun'

LaRouche Replies to Wall St. Journal Attack Over `Straussian Cabal' Exposé

Youth Movement Dialogue on Leo Strauss and the Effect of His Nihilist Philosophy Today


here is a REVIEW OF DOPE INC:


Perhaps a cursory glance at the book, Dope Inc. by Lyndon LaRouche Jnr, banned by several governments, will show how governments plot to destroy nations and people.

I took this from a conservative Christian site, though it is simply a quote from the opening of the book:



I've been reading a book called "DOPE, INC." by the Editors of the Executive Intelligence Review -- available from your local library. Its well-supported allegations, will open your eyes to the evil at work in the top echelons of government, banking, and big business. The first chapter's entitled, "The Book That Drove Henry Kissinger Crazy".

I'LL quote the first three paragraphs of this book, "DOPE, INC."

"Thirteen years ago, the first edition of Dope, Inc. was released, Commissioned by anti-drug American Senator Lyndon LaRouche. It was the first book to reveal that the illegal drug cartel was becoming the world's biggest business. "DOPE, INC.", has waged war against every nation in the world to expose the operation; and to reveal the names of the "untouchable" figures who protect the cartel, whom Hollywood media have sold to the public as veritable deities. This book, which has since come out in several foreign-language versions, and a second edition, remains unique.

Its effectiveness is attested to, above all, by the fact that the kingpins of the U.S. branch of the drug cartel, led by Henry Kissinger and the Anti-Defamation League of B'nai B'rith - launched a years-long effort to silence the authors, starting with LaRouche, who was railroaded to federal prison in late 1988 on trumped-up "conspiracy" charges, and is now fighting in the courts to overturn that travesty of justice.

LaRouche was jailed within days of George Bush's inauguration as President in January 1989; and Bush kept him there, for reasons that include a fear by Bush and his backers of the information contained in this book.

Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, ran the risk of Federal criminal prosecution, as the result of his persistent interference into the conduct of the U.S. Department of Justice, the FBI, and the White House, to STOKE-UP the government campaign to SILENCE " LaRouche." And so it continues...

This book, "DOPE, INC.", quotes banking and trade statistics which prove the narcotics business is doubling every five years. Figures from the U.S. Department of Agriculture, and National Organization for Reform of Marijuana Laws (NORML) demonstrate the 1987 U.S. marijuana harvest (US$33,095 million) exceeds all agricultural commodities but Cattle and calves (US$33,829 million).

Marijuana is now America's major crop. China produces most of the world's opium and heroin. The world's largest opium-growing area is the Golden Triangle, where by far the largest acreage is found in China's Yunnan Province. Many hundreds of millions of dollars of gold go directly to the Golden Triangle; hundreds of millions more, absorb and hide the profits of drug traffickers -- across the Far East.

Former U.S. Bureau of Narcotics and Dangerous Drugs Commissioner, Harry Anslinger, accused China of producing most of the world's opium and heroin. As early as 1960 the U.S. officially listed Hong Kong as the first of the "principal sources" of heroin seized in the United States; and the Federal Bureau of Narcotics showed its concern by opening a branch office in Hong Kong in 1963. (Dope, Inc., ch 7 and notes).

1950's claims by Anslinger and the U.S. government about Communist China's "twenty-year plan", to finance political activities, and spread addiction' in the United States, have been proven.

The former Editor of "AL AHRAM," (Mohammed Heikel), reported the following conversation between visiting Chinese Prime Minister Chou En-lai and Egyptian President Nasser on June 23, 1965: "Some of them are trying opium, and we are helping them. We're planting the best kinds of poppies, especially for the American soldiers in Vietnam. Do you remember when the West imposed opium on us?" Nasser appeared to be quite disturbed, but Chou continued: "They fought us with opium. And we're going to fight them with their own weapons ... we want them to maintain a large army in Vietnam that will serve us as a hostage, and we wish to demoralize the troops. The effect of this demoralization on the United States will be far greater than anyone can imagine." Nasser thought that Chou might be exaggerating, but Chou's concept was clear. He left no doubt, that this, was his course of action. (The Cairo Documents by Mohammed Hassanein Heikel, Garden City, NY., Doubleday , 1973. pp 306-307).

In 1975, N.Y. City police arrested the managers of a small branch of Chemical Bank in the borough of the Bronx, who'd been accepting the cash flow of the Paul Lucas heroin mob. Lucas was a small-time operator who drew limited supplies from returning Vietnam veterans, Retailing a few million dollars a year in heavily cut heroin and laundering the dirty money through the corrupted branch. When police moved in, they found the bank's entire vault piled ceiling to floor with small bills. The branch was at the limit of its physical capability to handle cash.

What makes these facts so extraordinary, is that the $3 million a year passing through that single branch, clogging vaults, represented barely one-fifth of 1% of N.Y.City's annual drug money flow of $15 billion. (This figure is the 1977 estimate of N.Y. Drug Enforcement Administration officials. It's skyrocketed in recent years.) If all the dope traffic in the city went through similar channels, 500 bank branches would be required to handle the volume of cash!

Again, during 1980, Treasury investigators announced a "crackdown" on a group of small Miami banks, which, they said, accepted a large volume of funds over the counter from narcotics traffickers. Eighteen banks were named in hearings before the Senate Banking Committee on June 6, 1980, where Treasury officials bragged of the success of their enforcement operations. But the banks involved had allegedly accepted sums in the magnitude of $1 to $2 million each. Compared to the size of Florida's dope traffic, estimated by the Senate Permanent Investigations Subcommittee to exceed $13 billion, the scale of operations the Treasury says it uncovered is extremely modest. If we assume that this is the dope trade's modus operandi, we are forced to imagine that thousands of banks are involved in this.

Prior to the Senate hearings, the national press was filled with stories about drug money laundering in Florida, citing treasury sources. These articles spoke of teenagers in jeans and T-shirts walking calmly into banks with suitcases full of cash for deposit, and even phoning in advance, at the bank's request, to be sure that sufficient tellers were on hand to count it all.

Lurid as this information is, on closer inspection, it fails to tell us much, about how $200 billion, (the minimum, retail dope dealers take each year off American streets and school corridors), could be hidden from the eyes of the tax and drug enforcement authorities. On the contrary, if it were all so simple, the dope trade would stand out like a sore thumb. Under federal legislation, every bank must file a report with the Internal Revenue Service on every cash deposit in excess of $10,000. Even if the dope traders funneled smaller amounts than $10,000 into their accounts, the sudden buildup of cash in a bank account would immediately arouse the suspicion of bank officials, according to investigator, Robert Potter, IRS Assistant Director for criminal investigation.

Large commercial banks with computerized internal operations employ supersophisticated methods to monitor what happens to their internal cash flow, mainly to prevent embezzlement." (p. 167-168).

"DOPE, INC." is very informative and supported by over 100 pages of Bibliography, references and appendices. Last October President Clinton signed Presidential Decision Directive PDD42, specifically targeting 50 international money laundering centres, mentioned in this book. (EIR Economics 15/12/95; The Strategy Feb, 1996, p 6-7).




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HERE'S SOMETHING ELSE BY A SOCIAL CONSERVATIVE who did a little review of Larouche.

Too Soon to Give Up On Democracy
By Henry Makow Ph.D.
June 06, 2004

People often ask, "What should we do?"

I have replied that I don't know, that democracy is a charade and we shouldn't waste time with it.

Perhaps this reaction is premature.

I am checking out the Lyndon LaRouche movement. The media has conditioned us to feel revulsion at the name, but think about it. That is actually an endorsement. This man has been vilified because he may represent the most serious opposition the bankers face.

I was attracted to LaRouche because of the paradigm-shifting history his followers write. I highly recommend the books "Treason in America," and "Dope Inc." which are rare but can be found through www.bookfinder.com . "The Unauthorized Biography of George Bush" (Sr.) is the authentic history of our time and it is on line.

What follows is not an endorsement of LaRouche but my progress report. We are desperate for leadership but I urge you to be sceptical.

LaRouche has learned to take advantage of our two-faced political system. You see the bankers must keep up the appearance of constitutional government while they infiltrate and subvert it by placing their puppets in power.

Their problem is that puppets do not hold all positions of power, and even then, they can show independence. The LaRouche method is to provide these people with the intelligence they need to resist the bankers' plans.

Apparently LaRouche is in touch with many world leaders and may be partly responsible for the resistance the bankers are facing in places like Russia, Brazil, Argentina, Malaysia and the Middle East.

Similarly LaRouche claims to be feeding a network of Americans within the US military and government who believe in the American democratic tradition.

"My course of action is to provide an element of cohesion and leadership among these circles in the United States, especially among the Executive Branch...The circles are capable of recognizing that the existence of civilization depends upon acting, to get rid of what [Dick] Cheney represents..."

"We couldn't act immediately, because you can't raise a coup against your own government! But we moved to influence, to expose, to expose, to expose, and to make clear. And we have so far succeeded...we have today a force inside the United States which is fighting against this nonsense..."

LaRouche, 82, is an economist who has been giving the criminal bankers headaches for almost 30 years. They imprisoned him in the 1980's and threatened his life many times.

LaRouche understands world history and culture. He understands the conundrum we are facing.

"Reality is what happens when civilizations themselves are threatened with collapse. We are now at a breaking point, of potential collapse of world civilization," he said recently.

"The basic problem we have, as far back as we know, mankind has been engaged in a struggle to free us from a condition, in which some people, a relative few, hold the rest of the people in a condition of virtual or actual slaves, as human cattle: either herded cattle of the type that 80% of the people of the United States are today; or as hunted cattle, as we treat the people of Southern Africa."


TO EXPOSE, TO EXPOSE, TO EXPOSE

The LaRouche movement is primarily an intelligence operation. You will find a treasure trove of information on how the world really works on their web sites.

"Dope Czar Bids to Buy Up Democratic Party" for example reveals that Rothschild agent George Soros helped finance the candidacies of Howard Dean, John Kerry and Wesley Clark and is behind the virulent anti Bush advertising of Moveon.org. Yet Soros has had a long-term business relationship with George W. Bush and bailed him out on many occasions.

The article reveals that Soros is behind the marijuana legalization movement. The world banking cabal is intimately involved in illegal drugs and money laundering and has been for more than a century. (This article is in their Electronic Intelligence Weekly (EIW), which requires a $1 a day subscription.)

The main LaRouche web site is www.larouchepub.com (See links for LaRouche Writings and Other Writings in left side-column.) You can speak to someone at 1-888-347-3258. But be forewarned. These people are intellectuals and can be longwinded. Also, don't expect to agree with everything you hear. I still don't buy their fondness for FDR. Finally, they foresee an imminent financial meltdown. I think the bankers may keep things afloat until Iraq, Syria and Iran are pacified.

CONCLUSION

We need to exercise our democratic powers while we still have some. The fact that society is innocent of the danger it is in should inspire us to awaken it, rather than to surrender. We should approach our friends, politicians and media with the truth. The key always is to gain credibility by behaving in a calm, measured and civil way.

Fighting the bankers can be a lonely affair. Conspiracy types have never been able to form an organization. The LaRouche Movement represents a nucleus of very smart people who understand what is going on and what to do about it. Some of us may be looking for this.

 http://www.savethemales.ca/000456.html

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Larouche groupies even do direct action. There was even a report I saw of one asking Ashcroft "when the next U.S. state sponsored terror attack was going to be?" Ashcroft stormed out of a room pissed off refusing to comment on anything...or answer any more questions.



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SUMMARY


Larouche: a mixed bag, a socially conservative 'anti-corporate globalist' national economic liberal who is anti-Zionist and is unafraid to point the fingers at the crimes and open conspiracies of the U.S. federals being the world's drug lords.

Dope, Inc. is an important read to know what is going on, if you can stand the socially conservative commentary.
"The Book the Drove Kissinger Crazy"
messes up the Republicrat vote base, calls them on federal drug dealing
messes up the Republicrat vote base, calls them on federal drug dealing

fascism is GOOD for us - ONLY LaRouche can save us all 23.Jun.2004 02:26

LaRouche drone

ONLY LaRouche can save us all - he alone is our only hope
ONLY LaRouche can save us all - he alone is our only hope
ONLY LaRouche can save us all - he alone is our only hope
ONLY LaRouche can save us all - he alone is our only hope
ONLY LaRouche can save us all - he alone is our only hope
ONLY LaRouche can save us all - he alone is our only hope
ONLY LaRouche can save us all - he alone is our only hope

the real deal on LaRouche:
 http://www.publiceye.org/larouche/nclc1.html
 http://www.publiceye.org/larouche/nclc2.html
 http://www.publiceye.org/larouche/nclc3.html

a brief history of LaRouche's brand of fascism 23.Jun.2004 02:43

Right-Wing Populism in America: Too Close for Comfort

Though often dismissed as a bizarre political cult, the LaRouche organization and its various front groups are a fascist movement whose pronouncements echo elements of Nazi ideology.[1] Beginning in the 1970s, the LaRouchites combined populist antielitism with attacks on leftists, environmentalists, feminists, gay men and lesbians, and organized labor. They advocated a dictatorship in which a "humanist" elite would rule on behalf of industrial capitalists. They developed an idiosyncratic, coded variation on the Illuminati Freemason and Jewish banker conspiracy theories. Their views, though exotic, were internally consistent and rooted in right-wing populist traditions.
A former Trotskyist, Lyndon H. LaRouche, Jr., founded the National Caucus of Labor Committees (NCLC) in 1968 as an offshoot of the radical student movement. But in the early 1970s, LaRouche engineered a political about-face, using cult pressure tactics to consolidate his grip over the NCLC and initiating a campaign of physical attacks on Communists and Black nationalists, which cut his followers off from the Left. The result was a fascist organization with some unique strengths: a dedicated, full-time cadre of several hundred members, a high proportion of intellectuals with advanced training, familiarity with leftist theory and organizing, and inside information about radical organizations and leaders.


During the 1970s and 1980s, the LaRouchites built an international network for spying and propaganda, with links to the upper levels of government, business, and organized crime. The LaRouchites traded information with intelligence agencies in the United States, South Africa, East Germany, and elsewhere. Their dirty tricks record included harassment campaigns against the United Auto Workers and the United Steelworkers of America in the 1970s. In 1980, they branded GeorgeBush an agent of the Trilateral Commission to help Ronald Reagan win the Republican presidential nomination, and in 1984, they helped Jesse Helms retain his U.S. Senate seat by gay-baiting his opponent. During the 1980s, the LaRouchites raised an estimated $200 million through legal and illegal fund-raising and fielded thousands of candidates for political office in every region of the country. Seeking the George Wallace vote, the LaRouche candidates usually ran in Democratic primaries.[2]


The LaRouchites generally operated under front groups such as Food for Peace and the Schiller Institute, and put out such publications as New Solidarity (later The New Federalist) and Executive Intelligence Review.


In 1976 LaRouche's original electoral arm, the U.S. Labor Party (USLP), published a conspiracist attack on President JimmyCarter, claiming he was a tool of secret international elites. The Liberty Lobby criticized the report for failing to mention the role of Jewish bankers, and soon LaRouche publications picked up the theme.[3] The Liberty Lobby and the LaRouche group soon began to cooperate closely on projects. When some groups on the right criticized the Liberty Lobby for working with ostensible leftists, meaning the USLP, the Liberty Lobby defended the relationship in 1981: "No group has done so much to confuse, disorient, and disunify the Left as they have. . . . The USLP should be encouraged, as should all similar breakaway groups from the Left, for this is the only way that the Left can be weakened and broken."[4]


In the 1970s, the LaRouchites' anti-Jewish propaganda was relatively explicit, as in LaRouche's 1978 article "New Pamphlet to Document Cult Origins of Zionism," which declared that "The B'Nai B'rith today resurrects the tradition of the Jews who demanded the crucifixion of Jesus Christ, the Jews who pleaded with Nero to launch the ´holocaust´ against the Christians."[5] Gradually the LaRouchites developed increasingly sophisticated ways to invoke antisemitic themes while still maintaining deniability.


The LaRouchites borrowed conspiracist elements from various sources to produce their own Manichean picture of world history. For thousands of years, they argued, the good "humanists" had been locked in a power struggle with a vast conspiracy of evil "oligarchs." In ancient times, the oligarchic conspiracy was centered in Babylon; later it shifted to Venice; in modern times it was centered in Britain's royal House of Windsor. This narrative evoked standard elements of antisemitic doctrine: that Jews had dominated ancient Babylon and that Jewish banking families controlled the British government. Sometimes the LaRouchites highlighted prominent Jews as members of the conspiracy, such as "[Henry] Kissinger's friends, the Rothschild family, and other representatives of Britain's financial power." At other times, they portrayed Jews as unwitting tools of the oligarchs, as for example, "Zionism is that state of collective psychosis through which London manipulates most of international Jewry."[6]


The LaRouchite analysis of British oligarchic control resembles a number of earlier right-wing populist works, such as E.C.Knuth's 1944 tract The Empire of "The City": alias International Finance, alias the British Empire, alias "ONE WORLD" superstate. Knuth claimed that the Rothschilds and Sassoons controlled British financial interests, and he cited the International Monetary Fund as proof of their plot for global dominance.


Unlike neonazi groups such as the White Aryan Resistance or the National Alliance, the NCLC has always denied that it is antisemitic and has always included Jewish members (such as LaRouche's longtime security aides Jeffrey Steinberg and Paul Goldstein). The LaRouchites insisted they were not targeting Jews as a whole, but only the "bad" Jews such as Henry Kissinger,Roy Cohn, the Rothschild banking family, and the Anti-Defamation League.


The LaRouchites seem to have shifted from biological to cultural racism, at least in their public pronouncements. In the 1970s, LaRouche and his followers described the British oligarchs as a separate "species" and often referred to people of color as bestial or subhuman. But in 1995, New Federalist editor NancySpannaus declared, "We don't believe blood or race has anything to do with determining history. Never fear! It's ideas."[7]LaRouchite ideology has continued to glorify western Christianity and European civilization—especially the classical German culture of Beethoven, Schiller, and Leibniz—over the "barbarism" of non-Europeans. For example, LaRouchites asserted that by bringing Christianity to the Americas, "Columbus' discovery made it possible to liberate the native populations" from "the practices of human sacrifice, cannibalism, and slavery of the Aztec Empire." The LaRouchites vilified jazz and rock music while praising African American spirituals—so long as they conformed to the rules of European classical music.[8]


U.S. right-wing traditions such as business nationalism echoed loudly in the LaRouchites' attacks on Britain, the "liberal Eastern Establishment," homosexuality, globalism, free trade, and international bankers. Pro­ducer­ism, with its problematic distinction between productive industrial capital and parasitic finance capital, was central to LaRouchite economics, as it enabled LaRouche to be procapitalist and "anti-imperialist" at the same time: "Imperialism was not the result of capitalist development; it was the result of the conquest of power over capitalist nations by a usury-oriented rentier-financier interest older than feudalism."[9]


Like traditional fascists of the 1920s and 1930s, but unlike many neonazis and other U.S. rightists today, LaRouchites championed a strong, centralized nation-state as vital to economic and social progress. They declared they were continuing the old Federalist-Whig program of economic protectionism, national control of banking, and government-sponsored infrastructure development to stimulate industrial growth. They attacked both states' rights and laissez-faire conservatism as part of a British plot to undermine the nation-state.[10]


Also, unlike some neonazis, the LaRouchites vilified the environmental movement and nature romanticism while praising high-technology projects such as nuclear power. But here, too, the LaRouchites were partly repackaging earlier conspiracy theories. Their attacks on the Club of Rome, an ecology and population control group, echoed a 1974 article in the rightist American Mercury entitled "The Curious Club of Rome," which asked whether the group was "merely a bunch of boring pedants and doom-sayers, or is it a sinister cabal aiming for world control?"[11]


In 1989, LaRouche was sentenced to fifteen years in prison for mail fraud conspiracy, based on illegal and manipulative fund-raising practices, as well as tax evasion. His organization continued to operate while he was in prison, and he was released in early 1994.


LaRouche continued his leadership role in various organizations such as the National Caucus of Labor Committees and the Schiller Institute while in prison, and after his release he resumed his peripatetic speaking circuit, quickly building contacts with a number of groups around the world. His call for new global economic policies in opposition to the International Monetary Fund found favor not only in Europe, but in Africa, Central and South America, and Asia. He spoke at a number of conferences organized in countries previously under Soviet influence or control.


During the 1990s, the LaRouchites once again adopted a more "progressive" guise. They opposed the Gulf War against Iraq and worked to build links with liberal and leftist antiwar groups. They made particular efforts to recruit African Americans. They opposed the death penalty, anti-immigrant racism, and law enforcement agencies' harassment of Black elected officials. They defended social programs against Gingrich-Republican budget cuts. They praised the Israeli-Palestinian negotiations and the Israeli Labor Party while denouncing the rightist Likud Party and the Islamic fundamentalists in Hamas. Starting in 1990, the LaRouchites and LouisFarrakhan's Nation of Islam cultivated friendly ties, sharing articles and praising each other's work.[12]


The LaRouchites set an example of how to package fascist ideology as maverick conservatism, progressive antielitism, or both. In 1986, when LaRouche followers shocked the Illinois Democratic Party by winning the party primaries for lieutenant governor and secretary of state, other far rightists praised their efforts. Some, such as David Duke, looked for lessons in their electoral strategy.[13]

footnotes and sources:
 http://www.publiceye.org/larouche/synthesis.html

wonder about these selective supposedly 'lefty' smear jobs 23.Jun.2004 03:08

wow

The whole public-eye.org article is dissapointing to me as it concentrates on character defamation and uses words like 'fascist' and 'totalitarian' when I hardly think they fit the Larouchian enigma. The article quotes: "In 1976 LaRouche's original electoral arm, the U.S. Labor Party (USLP), published a conspiracist attack on President JimmyCarter, claiming he was a tool of secret international elites." Oh no forbid! a conspiracist attack!--when we are plotted against daily by these assholes that's a vote of confidence in my book instead of a black mark.

NOW, I'm intrigued and frightened more by the public-eye.org organization emptiness and lack of research more than the Larouche one! Just who the hell are these people supposed to be? Yes, I read their 'about us' section. However, are we to exchange Larouchian manipulation with their very hotly emotional manipulation? AT least public-eye.org should do us the honor and treat us like we are more than in 5th grade or wanting to read something simply for entertainment or humor value...

On the Carter Trilaterial issue, I first note they fail to even address it with the word Trilaterial, or even point out who was involved--including George Bush! Second, they say nothing about its accuracy or inaccuracy. You are being trained just to hate, hate, hate instead of discern, think, and use mental-critical discrimination.

While I find the public-eye.org piece very enlightening (thanks!) because I had been looking for something about just who the hell he was based on some of my readings that touched on his history, the above hardly explains the fear and terror that the Establishment elites put on him, whether they be lefty corporate state elitists or righty corporate state elitists. Plus, I was rather disappointed that if I was to take all the emotional words and slander words out of the public-eye.org article, it comes down to a very small amount of information. Oh well.

I still hold with what I said above, at least so far, they fear him because he is totally opposed to corporate globalization, and that he has published about the U.S. CIA being the world's main drug lord.

As to his rather well funded organization, that still makes me suspicious. The public-eye.org article fails to get into that juicy bit of information, or where he was getting all this money in the early 1970s to start 1000 member revolutionary commiteess...

Anyway, Yes, Carter was a member of Rockefeller's Trilaterials, and Carter appointed dozens of these entirely Nelson Rockfeller private hand picked membership to Carter's executive and administrative appointments. Carter brings in FEMA boys and girls, with Samuel Huntingdon's ideas. Carter's family is hardly a lefty historically either. Carter's campaign in 1976 was the perfect example of creating images of the same program instead of changing political gears. If you want to know about Carter, read McGowan's Understanding the F-Word or Antony Sutton's Trilaterals over Washington.

"Fascist" and "totalitarian" fit LaRouche perfectly 23.Jun.2004 03:54

GRINGO STARS

Ask LaRouche, or any of his supporters and they will tell you: only complete adherence to every single tenet of LaRouche's will save humanity. Disbelieving any single bit of LaRouche-supplied information will mark you as "brainwashed" by civilization. They will tell you that any anti-LaRouche information is CIA-(or other shadowy uberpowers)-disseminated character assassination! Does this sound nuts to you? As if no one could be that devoted to ONE person's vision? Then you obviously have not met the LaRouchies. Any and all anti-LaRouche information is entirely lies and disinformation from mindbogglingly powerful enemies, they'll tell you straightaway. They are amusingly brainwashed. Try having a conversation with them and you will marvel at the short-circuits they will undergo. Ask them why banking is bad yet other capitalist businesses are somehow OK and they will tell you that you listen to too much jazz. It's simply amazing! I can only speak from my personal experiences, mind you. But for your own entertainment, you must engage a LaRouchie in conversation. It all comes down to one thing: Our Fearless Leader Must Be LaRouche and ONLY LaRouche, The Enlightened Philosopher-King!

LaRouche is a Fascist 23.Jun.2004 17:52

here's why

First, as Gringo Stars pointed out, LaRouche followers have a blind faith in their leader. LaRouche and his ideas are seen as the only way of bringing our world back from the brink of the disaster he has been saying is right around the corner for the last forty years. This is a tried and true hallmark of fascism. All faith is put in a single leader who is seen as having superhuman abilities to solve the problems of society. LaRouche has claimed that he is the greatest economist alive, and any of his minions will tell you that immediate and total adoption of the LaRouche ideology is the only way of stopping imminent disaster. Second, fascism is not itself an ideology. Rather, a fascist leader will craft his ideology around current issues of concern, often borrowing from the left and the right. The main goal is the attainment of as much power as possible for the leader. LaRouche does exactly this. He claims that there is no right and left, which allows him to take from both in order to appeal to as many people as possible and thereby gain as much power for himself as possible. Thankfully he hasn't been too successful yet, except for the lonely kids who join the "LaRouche Youth". He latches on to legitimate issues, like free trade, or the war in Iraq in order to get people interested. He says he is against free trade which gets the naive leftys on board. His answer to the problems of free trade is protectionism, which gets industrial capital on his side. In this way, in true fascist form, he uses lefty rhetoric to get the masses fired up and on his side, and all the while the true beneficiaries are the industrial capitalists. LaRouche also uses the time honored fascist art of scapegoating and dehuminization. His favorite scapegoat is bankers, mostly Jewish ones if you look at the names of the people he has focused his attacks on over the years. The banker conspiracy theory is an old one that was used extensively by both Hitler and Mussolini. Refer to Mein Kampf by Hitler, or The Corportate State by Mussolini to verify this if you want. By blaming "financial capital" for the economic ills of society, the fascist establishes a scapegoat that both the working class and the industrial capitalist class can hate. LaRouche also uses dehumanization of his percieved political enemies. One doesn't have to look very far in his rantings to see words like "beast-men" and "freaks" used to describe his political enemies. Both of these tactics work to mobilize people around fear and hatred of a sub-human "other" that is working to bring about destruction of society. Once a sub-human scapegoat is established, then the fascist can mobilize people around himself through their hatred and fear of the supposed diabolical forces arrayed against them. Hitler did this with the Jews, and Mussolini and LaRouche did it with bankers. I'll post more later as I could go on and on, but I have stuff to do now...

blind patting the blind on the back? 23.Jun.2004 20:49

me

"One doesn't have to look very far in his rantings to see words like "beast-men" and "freaks" used to describe his political enemies. Both of these tactics work to mobilize people around fear and hatred of a sub-human "other" that is working to bring about destruction of society. Once a sub-human scapegoat is established, then the fascist can mobilize people around himself through their hatred and fear of the supposed diabolical forces arrayed against them."

You are simply attempting to mobilize the same emotions, and using the same tactics, blind nitwit!That's exactly what is wrong with teh publiceye.org 'review' of Larouche. It is exactly this method.

Avoid misinterpreting me here, I am discussing Larouhce policies and strategically what they mean in the U.S. polical scene, whereas everyone else seems to be fixated at an emotional level and using the tactics you so well (yes, you did very well) describe can be used to create fear and hate against anyone you want--hardly the realm of only Larouche it seems..

explain, "me" 24.Jun.2004 03:00

GRINGO STARS

Where does *here's why* EVER dehumanize or portray as subhuman LaRouche? Nowhere. He/she never even calls anyone a "blind nitwit" like you do. He/she describes the very human will to naked power that LaRouche has evidenced his whole life. That is not subhuman: that is boringly typical of tyrants, but not subhuman.

Nowhere do you refute any of the arguments, you simply say that *here's why* dehumanizes LaRouche, which he/she doesn't. He/she doesn't abjectly worship LaRouche, which is what I sense bugs you. I don't worship LaRouche either, who I consider a mediocre enough economist to pull the wool over well-meaning yet uneducated peoples' eyes.

Nowhere does publiceye refer to LaRouche as a "Beastman of Satan" which LaRouche does call many people. But hysteria and the will to power are very human attributes, which LaRouche suffers from sometimes. The will towards intentional destruction of an entire people/nation IS a subhuman attribute, and nowhere does either publiceye or *here's why* imply that LaRouche is subhuman. LaRouche attributes seamy sinister conspiracies of mass destruction to his various political enemies.

LaRouche is no enigma. It's easy to see through him. Tell me: does anyone in his various organizations EVER disagree with him? Over what? Do tell.

someone who would know 08.Oct.2004 02:15

Matt

I could spend a great deal of time using clever language and proving my knowledge of various topics concerning Larouche (like everyone else seems to be pathetically attempting), or I could simply cut the crap and get to the point. Having been in the Larouche Movement, I think I would have a more comprehensive and vivid idea as to what is what. I joined the Larouche movement my freshman year of college. Being a teenager who was angry about the world and needing to make a change, I was exactly what this group targets. They first take down your number, then bombard you with phone calls, explaining they are meeting to "expand their minds" by reading the philosophies of Keppler and Galileo. They feel that in order to achieve true success in their conquest to "save the world", they must become higher than those around them, so that they can then successfully employ the carefully crafted manipulation techniques to shoot down anyone who argues against them.
Most meetings begin with a political update, and the second part is a class where new recruits might hear about a health issue or be given a history lesson on the revolutionary war. However at the end of the class, they tie it all in to the current situation, and then to LaRouche politics. One of the reasons there is so much recruitment now, is that the last time the organization recruited heavily was between 1967 through 1974, so most of the core members of the organization are in their 50s . They need to recruit the next generation. Once you start listening, you'll hear over and over that LaRouche is the solution to every problem in the world. They'll ask, "Do you want children in Africa to starve?" Of course you don't, so they convince you that you have to come to a meeting. They repeatedly tell you if you don't come to the meeting, you must want the world to starve. So you go to the meeting.
One of the hallmarks of the LaRouche organization is to turn you against your family. They tell you that "family values are really immoral, they are only in place to keep you from getting political. They say that the baby-boomers are evil and are corrupted by the British neo-liberal banking establishment, but it's not their fault.
The more you are around these people, the more they turn you against your parents and your friends. They want you to try and recruit your friends. What they tell you if your friends resist is they are blocked, and you should just leave them behind. They are not worth it. They ask what's more important, your friends or the world? Soon you see yourself as someone who can actually change the world and you really do see your friends and family as obstacles.
The organization pays your rent, phone bills, and utilities. A $50 per week allowance for food is granted as well. Fortunately for me, I managed to escape this relentless choke-hold of a cult. Many students who become part of the organization never break away. It is next to impossible to get out once they have you. They actually brainwash you.
I cannot pinpoint when I was brainwashed, it just happened overtime. When you are there, you love it. It's like being high. You get an intellectual euphoria, because you feel in a position of ultimate power. You can prove anyone wrong on anything because you are equipped with these amazing manipulation techniques. You feel like you have the weight of the world on your shoulders and that you alone are saving it.
Everyday they reinforce what you are doing by always telling you that you are the best and you're doing a great job. You get the respect of people many times older than you. It's a high that blinds you to reality. What they do is feed your ego so much, you can't see anything else. It's comfortable; it's like a womb.
My own sense of being brainwashed hit me when I was re-reading one of my favorites, "1984" by George Orwell. This, along with having recently watched a movie containing "the borg", a society of cybernetic organisms from the classic tv show, "Star Trek", who assimilated individuals into one "hive" mind to achieve perfection, helped me along those lines of realization.
I can only forewarn others against the dangers of joining this organization. On a global scale, LaRouche is harmless, but on an individual scale, he is lethal. LaRouche is a man who claims to have all the answers to our problems, but in all reality, he is nothing more than a fascist monster who preys on the sense of needing to make a difference inherent in many adolescents. I can honestly say that every single person in our particular LaRouche Movement sect had dropped out of college or high school, believing school to be nothing more than a harness from releasing the true powers of the mind. Please be aware of the dangers this man purports on adolescents, particularly those yearning to change the world.

Someone else who knows. 28.Jun.2005 20:41

Down under LaRouchie

I am a member of the LaRouche Youth Movement in Australia, and I wanted to respond to some of Matt's comments.

Before I do, I just wanted to note how fascinating it is that 99% of the criticism, or attacks, on LaRouche come from the same sources: Chip Berlet and Dennis King. If you want to know more about this, check out the discussion on the LaRouche pages on Wikipedia.

But as to what Matt said:

"Most meetings begin with a political update, and the second part is a class where new recruits might hear about a health issue or be given a history lesson on the revolutionary war. However at the end of the class, they tie it all in to the current situation, and then to LaRouche politics."

Read any of LaRouche's papers on education. A recent example is 'Believing is not necessarily knowing'. The basic idea is that a classical humanist education must be rooted in the replication of discoveries of principle. The standpoint LaRouche takes is that this should be structured around physical economics, that a value of a discovery must be measured in terms of its increase in mankind's power in and over the universe, or in his own terms, and increase of 'potential-relative-population-density'. Hence, the root of the education is economics. In a political movement, in a time of crisis, it should be obvious that anything done that isn't related to the immediate situation, or the solution, is a waste of time.

"explaining they are meeting to "expand their minds" by reading the philosophies of Keppler and Galileo. They feel that in order to achieve true success in their conquest to "save the world", they must become higher than those around them, so that they can then successfully employ the carefully crafted manipulation techniques to shoot down anyone who argues against them."

I like this one. Again, if it weren't immediately relevant to the current political situation, we wouldn't be doing it. Studying simply to 'expand you mind' is intellectual masturbation, completely impotent. The point of having classes is directly opposite to 'becoming higher than those around them', instead, everyone must be raised to the highest level. If we wanted to rise above people, why would we invite them to join us?


"Once you start listening, you'll hear over and over that LaRouche is the solution to every problem in the world."

An extreme view and hopefully no one is putting it like that, but you cannot deny that LaRouche's record in economics is unmatched. 40 years of forecasting, in most situations where LaRouche will say that something is inevitable while everyone else says it is impossible. For instance, the collapse of the Bretton Woods system in August '71. I'll admit, sometimes we can be blunt about this, at that time people had signs like 'LaRouche says: "The markets have chosen the present time to prove me right."'

And on what Gringo Stars asked:

"LaRouche is no enigma. It's easy to see through him. Tell me: does anyone in his various organizations EVER disagree with him? Over what? Do tell."

This happens all the time, up to the highest levels of the organisations leadership. A relevant recent example is the end of the 2004 presidential campaign. Almost the entire leadership tried to shut down the campaign in June/July, when it became obvious that Kerry would get the nomination. LaRouche was saying to continue to escalate. In the end, LaRouche himself and a core of the youth movement went to Boston, but this was not what most people wanted. Similar things happen in Europe all the time. At conferences there is usually an internal panel where there is nothing but disagreement, or argument. At times, internally it is no different to externally, where people simply do not accept what LaRouche is saying. 'He doesn't really mean that', or 'He is simply exaggerating.'

To read more about the Larouche cult, go here. 15.Oct.2005 11:31

Lyn Marcus

A great place to read about the Larouche cult is at factnet.org. go to the discussion link and you will find 3 years of posts from people who have had first hand experience with the cult.

Another great site is justiceforjeremiah.com On that site you can see what happened to a young college kid who attended a Larouche meeting in Germany and found out what happens when you object to the crazytalk of the cult.

Sick, sick stuff you can read about where the cult takes this poor kid's family and makes them part of an international conspiracy to deny Larouche the US Presidency he deserves.

running across these Larouchies at campus is a creepy thing. If you do not agree, then YOU are now part of the conspiracy against Larouche. This is like running into a Jim Jones meets Jim Bakker meets Joe Stalin cloning experiment gone wild.

What cracked me up one day on campus is that the old guy at the table (55 or so) proudly tells me how he dropped out 35 years ago from school while the young kid just dropped out last semester. You wonder if the young guy ever learned anything in school about history repeating itself as a farce and then tragedy.

Sad, sad, sad. 11.Dec.2005 09:13

LYM

If you had known Dugan, or any of his friends, if you had been in Germany when that happened, maybe you would have some credit. Once again, all of that comes straight from Chip Brulet, which I believe we already established him as unworthy of a further look. If you haven't, you should check out his credentials sometime.

I am also a former LYM member. I wasn't pushed out, nor did I awaken one day and figure out I was brainwashed. I, like most LYM who quit, and go back home, couldn't take the implications of the current world situation. It would have required me to change everything I thought about reality. It might just have been true that the universe has an intention. That is a scary thought to anyone trained in Euclidean Geometry, to anyone who has based his or her entire reality on sense perception. What if you're wrong?

So, I freaked out, went home and smoked pot for six months. I had to stay high to keep from thinking. Then what happened? Do you remember Tom Delay being indicted? Well, Larouche was talking about it two years ago. Maybe before that. You know Scooter Libby? Well we talked about that too. Now Dick Cheney is on the hot seat. Besides us insisting 6 years ago, that he was not the man for the job, I remember 6mos ago in DC, holding a retirement party for him outside of his office. We had streamers, banners, balloons, everything. Even Dick made an appearance in his new prison uniform.

So here's the point. Even six months ago everyone, including me, was saying Larouche was wrong, we can't get rid of Cheney, there is no economic crisis, GM and Ford are doing just fine. Look at the headlines now.

I'd say that's proof of genius in forecasting, and so help me, I am going back to DC.
If you want the real low down on the LYM, I suggest checking out their own website, www.wlym.com After all, if those slander writers could attack them on their actual ideas, don't you think they should start WITH their ideas?

Sad, sad, sad. 11.Dec.2005 09:39

LYM

If you had known Dugan, or any of his friends, if you had been in Germany when that happened, maybe you would have some credit. Once again, all of that comes straight from Chip Brulet, which I believe we already established him as unworthy of a further look. If you haven't, you should check out his credentials sometime.

I am also a former LYM member. I wasn't pushed out, nor did I awaken one day and figure out I was brainwashed. I, like most LYM who quit, and go back home, couldn't take the implications of the current world situation. It would have required me to change everything I thought about reality. It might just have been true that the universe has an intention. That is a scary thought to anyone trained in Euclidean Geometry, to anyone who has based his or her entire reality on sense perception. What if you're wrong?

So, I freaked out, went home and smoked pot for six months. I had to stay high to keep from thinking. Then what happened? Do you remember Tom Delay being indicted? Well, Larouche was talking about it two years ago. Maybe before that. You know Scooter Libby? Well we talked about that too. Now Dick Cheney is on the hot seat. Besides us insisting 6 years ago, that he was not the man for the job, I remember 6mos ago in DC, holding a retirement party for him outside of his office. We had streamers, banners, balloons, everything. Even Dick made an appearance in his new prison uniform.

So here's the point. Even six months ago everyone, including me, was saying Larouche was wrong, we can't get rid of Cheney, there is no economic crisis, GM and Ford are doing just fine. Look at the headlines now.

I'd say that's proof of genius in forecasting, and so help me, I am going back to DC.
If you want the real low down on the LYM, I suggest checking out their own website, www.wlym.com After all, if those slander writers could attack them on their actual ideas, don't you think they should start WITH their ideas?

Sad, sad, sad 11.Dec.2005 10:08

LYM

If you had known Dugan, or any of his friends, if you had been in Germany when that happened, maybe you would have some credit. Once again, all of that comes straight from Chip Brulet, which I believe we already established him as unworthy of a further look. If you haven't, you should check out his credentials sometime.

I am also a former LYM member. I wasn't pushed out, nor did I awaken one day and figure out I was brainwashed. I, like most LYM who quit, and go back home, couldn't take the implications of the current world situation. It would have required me to change everything I thought about reality. It might just have been true that the universe has an intention. That is a scary thought to anyone trained in Euclidean Geometry, to anyone who has based his or her entire reality on sense perception. What if you're wrong?

So, I freaked out, went home and smoked pot for six months. I had to stay high to keep from thinking. Then what happened? Do you remember Tom Delay being indicted? Well, Larouche was talking about it two years ago. Maybe before that. You know Scooter Libby? Well we talked about that too. Now Dick Cheney is on the hot seat. Besides us insisting 6 years ago, that he was not the man for the job, I remember 6mos ago in DC, holding a retirement party for him outside of his office. We had streamers, banners, balloons, everything. Even Dick made an appearance in his new prison uniform.

So here's the point. Even six months ago everyone, including me, was saying Larouche was wrong, we can't get rid of Cheney, there is no economic crisis, GM and Ford are doing just fine. Look at the headlines now.

I'd say that's proof of genius in forecasting, and so help me, I am going back to DC.
If you want the real low down on the LYM, I suggest checking out their own website, www.wlym.com After all, if those slander writers could attack them on their actual ideas, don't you think they should start WITH their ideas?