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Growing Your Own Tobacco Workshop

Portland, OR-- Workshop announced for activists who want to explore the history and sacredness of the tobacco plant, learn how to grow tobacco in their own backyard, dry the leaves, store them, and respect their energy.
Getting off the corporate cigarette habit by growing your own...

Do you smoke? Do you know where your tobacco comes from? Are you aware of the impacts of supporting corporate tobacco agriculture and tobacco products? Want to learn how to re-think your relationship with the tobacco plant, and shift from consumer of smoke to being a provider of sacred tobacco energy?

Sunday July 11th at 3PM

Free tobacco workshop will be held in Sellwood's Share-It Square (corner of SE 9th Av and Sherrett Street, 4 blocks south of Tacoma)

Participants will receive Cuban tobacco seed. You can still get a crop in this year!

More info-- contact  pferbel@yahoo.com

Unadulterated Tobacco 22.Jun.2004 13:34

is there such a thing?

Where does one get organic seeds? The corporate tobacco hybrid is far removed from the natural version. It is not enough to grow tobacco chemical free you need to start with the unadulterated genome.
Where can one get some heritage seeds?

humans and plants 22.Jun.2004 16:36

working together

RE: adulterated tobacco...

there are many wild species of tobacco, but like most of the species of plants that are used by us humans, those seeds have gone through processes of selection. corn in its original form was not much more than a grass with a big wheat-like head. over the thousands of years humans gathered the biggest or most hardy or most disease resistant samples and would replant these, creating heirlooms and more usable plants for human purposes. this seems to me to be a respectable relationship with plants.

cuban seed tobacco is similar. it has been selected for over the years to have big beautiful leaves that make for good smoking.

re: organic seed-- that has to do with the soil that produced the seed. the seed that is being offered at this workshop has a known history. it is 4th and 5th generation grown organically in the pacific northwest, harvested from a 2nd generation plant grown organically in the Dominican Republic. before that, the seed was most likely grown and collected several scores of generations in the Dominican Republic. i wonder if its origin is actually cuba or if that is just the name it was given. tobacco is indigenous to the caribbean where there is evidence of its use for at least 2000 years.

heritage seeds? 22.Jun.2004 22:53

Catalina Eddie

The Redwood City Seed Company
P.O. Box 361
Redwood City, CA 94064

'Just happened to have that handy

Vancouver

Cancer cures smoking 23.Jun.2004 14:44

up in smoke

Why not do your body a favor and quit smoking tobacco. The difference between smoking corportate cigs and homegrown cigs is like the difference between jumping off a 100 ft bridge compared a 200 ft bridge. Our lungs were designed for air, not smoke.
oh, and you smell bad and make me cough when i'm around you. thanks for polluting my air with your toxic smoke.

Tobacco kills more americans than AIDS, illicit drugs, homicides, fires AND auto accidents, COMBINED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If there is a devil, tobacco is his creation.

WooHoo! 23.Jun.2004 14:45

Me

Yay! We can all poison ourselves in a socially responsible way!

They never proved it 23.Jun.2004 19:14

Joe Vialls

Research never proved that smoking tobacco causes cancer. What do you suppose happened to the fallout from the above ground nuclear testing that went on in America? Do you believe the half-live from this radioactive material just disappeared? How convenient to blame tobacco.

Huh? 23.Jun.2004 19:52

neon

quote:
"Research never proved that smoking tobacco causes cancer. What do you suppose happened to the fallout from the above ground nuclear testing that went on in America? Do you believe the half-live from this radioactive material just disappeared? How convenient to blame tobacco."

Ummmm...yes they did. If they hadn't, you can bet your last cent that those settlements to cancer victims would never have been paid out by one of the largest industries in America with unimaginable legal resources at their disposal. Good points from some of the others. If you're going to make homegrown poisons, stick to meth - it's quicker and easier.

Smoking and Tobacco 24.Jun.2004 11:30

workshop leader

YES there is a connection between smoking cigarettes laced with preservatives and pumped up nicotine levels and cancer.

on top of that, tobacco itself is a strong medicine plant of this earth and anyone who abuses it will get abused.

a healthy relationship with tobacco means developing an orientation to the plant that is respectful, not addictive. this can be done by learning more about the history and culture of the plant, more about the evils of the industry, and more about your personal relationship to the plant.

if this does not appeal to you, then don't attend the workshop.

peace.

nasty addiction is still nasty addiction 10.Jul.2004 00:10

clamydia

As a (hopefully) permanent ex-smoker, all I can say is that it is easy for an addict to justify usage of their drug of choice. It's great that you want to stop supporting big corporate tobacco companies and all, but don't fool yourself into thinking that smoking natural, holistic tobacco is going to make you any less of a nicotine junkie. I mean seriously, what medicinal benefit can a person possibly get from nicotine usage that isn't completely outweighed by the accompanying health risks? Even in small doses, nicotine is bad for you. Whether you chew it or smoke it, it is still bad for you. But, the worst thing about nicotine is that it is addictive, so that over time your doses WILL become more and more. You will find ways to compute your nicotine intake so that it doesn't add up very much, using fuzzy math like, "well, I rolled those cigarettes smaller than usual, so even though I smoked twenty, it was really only like eight or nine...".
Instead of spending a lot of time on a holistic tobacco workshop, why not simply stop smoking, and encourage others to do the same? It's hard at first, but it gets easier after a few weeks. I never realized how nasty of a habit it was until I quit. Now, when someone walks by me with a cigarette, it makes me want to gag.

Explanation for Everyone's Smoking Habit 10.Jul.2004 12:15

by my chain smoking roommate

"A) I am a giant idiot.

B) I am on some level, secretly suicidal

C) If I am not on any level secretly suicidal, I am an even more gigantic idiot"

I guess if you want to not support the craven cig execs, why not? Otherwise, quit fooling yourselves about "changing your relationship" with a substance more difficult to kick than heroin.

"We don't smoke the shit, we just sell it. We reserve that for the poor, the black and the stupid."
--RJ Reynolds Executive in response to the Marlboro Man asking why the Execs didn't smoke

Cig Substitute 10.Jul.2004 23:20

Nicotine is good

I was a light smoker until I substituted them with the nicotine gum and now the lozenges which are much better, cheaper and perfectly safe. Its not the nicotine that kills, its the smoke.

managing addiction 10.Jul.2004 23:44

dude

1. Why pay US foor your addiction?

2. Get your addiction in your Budget.

3. Respect the tobacco god

"its not the nicotine that kills, it's the smoke"...WRONG!!!! 11.Jul.2004 01:02

claymdia

check out  http://www.cancer.gov/cancerinfo/nicotinestudy for information on how nicotine may promote cancer. Also, many people have recieved a nice dose of mouth cancer from chewing tobacco, which requires no inhalation of smoke whatsoever, so howdya explain that?

Clam 11.Jul.2004 22:35

Nico good

"check out   http://www.cancer.gov/cancerinfo/nicotinestudy for information on how nicotine may promote cancer. Also, many people have recieved a nice dose of mouth cancer from chewing tobacco, which requires no inhalation of smoke whatsoever, so howdya explain that? "

Thats an interesting theory but I doubt if they can back it up with case studies of real humans or even lab animals. The stats arent there. No one has gotten cancer from nicotine replacements. Chewing tobacco is thoroughly roasted and so the roasting resins are what causes the throat cancer from chewing tobacco.


C 12.Jul.2004 14:08

Desi

Good work Clamydia, but it should be pointed out that the difference in health risk between smoking and safe nicotine delivery systems like lozenges is so huge its not even comparable.

You Forgot Something 26.Jul.2004 07:27

Funky Pretzel doug@funkypretzel.com

Those were a lot of good comments, but you all forgot one VERY IMPORTANT thing. EXTREME caution should be used when growing/processing tobacco. You can take it into your lungs, you can take it into your stomach, but you CANNOT take it into your body by way of your skin. Do not allow the juices of tobacco on your skin!! If you don't get it washed off in just a few minutes it (nicotene) can easily kill you.

For information on how I quit (without withdrawal, etc.) go to funkypretzel.com/page6.html and scroll down to "SMOKE" - or, quit if you wish". It's just a very short article that might help.

Thanks to the provider of this space for comments like this.

Funky Pretzel