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THE FASCIST STATES OF DISNEYLAND: American fascism as the perfection of fascist techniques

Brainless couch potatoes, stand by!

Any solutions would be the opposite of these PARTICULAR POINTS or would remove these points. American fascism is a structural arrangement. Only structural changes and different formal governmental arrangements can dismantle it.IF YOU WANT TO CHANGE IT TOWARDS SUSTAINABILITY AND DEMOCRACY CONCENTRATE ON THESE POINTS.
US flag?: programmable test pattern, await your programming
US flag?: programmable test pattern, await your programming
Walt Disney meeting with the US military in 1942
Walt Disney meeting with the US military in 1942
Walt Disney designed WWII gas mask
Walt Disney designed WWII gas mask
American fascism as the perfection of fascist techniques

A bit of commentary on the image above: There are a lot of similarities between America and Germany, though the difference is actually a compliment to fascists out there: where Germany failed in the 1930s, America has succeeded. The compliment to fascists out there would be that America seems to have perfected State control of society and ideology far more than Germany was ever able to attempt or achieve, quite possibly because American fascist ideology has made good on Orwell's fear of the State dominating through complete control of the identity of individuals--from cradle to grave.

Let's call it State Individualism, which is different from actual individualism because it is a individualism that only serves the American corporate state. American fascism has entirely done away with any social ideologies--which Germany, Italy, Japan or other fascist movements in Eastern Europe or Scandinavia had. The American fascist ideology of is one of (corporate state managed of course) State Individualism.

Here are some similarities between Germany's fascism and America's fascism that only shows that America's version is a more perfected variety of hyper-fascism. It takes the principles of State control and divide and conquer of the citizens to a hyper-level: down to the individual level. It takes the principle of State control and divide and conquer into party politics as well, as you will see what I mean.

1. Like Germany, a centralized media exists. However, unlike Germany, American fascism of State Individualism has allowed a very different kind of fascism than before: a special American hyper-fascism that is a combination of the historical corporate state fascism and typical police state repression, corporate interlocks, jingoism, and imperialism--combined with a public personae that is entirely disconnected from society instead of about it: the ideology sails over society and numbs it instead of asks for its participation. It sells escapism through particular state mandated 'individualisms' instead of actual individualism, it sells disney-esque cant, slogans, and jingles, each lasting 30 seconds for 24 hours a day, and endless kaleidoscope of blurring emptiness. The ideology of State Individualism is that the individual is a tabula rasa to be programmed with whatever State elites want, whatever emotions, whatever ideas, and this programming can be achieved year after year precisely because no one is given any manner to approach the issue of their manipulation historically. Updates, fads, planned obsolescence, deprivation, and consumption are the techniques of State Individualism. What are illegal are localism, pro-active political action, and democratic challenges.

2. While Germany attempted corporate state fascism with a social ideology, a 'volk' concept, a unity concept--American fascism's ideology of State Individualism, if anything is an ideology of intentional chaos and anomyization. It is easier for the American corporate state to rule over this chaos than any organized social force that it might seed though it may later get out of its control. Hitler built an ideological force based on social ideologies. America has learned to do without it, as long as the individuated pieces of the chaos of images get filtered through the same corporate state screening--thus, the process of State programming becomes seamless. The corporate state pressures this informally as a very exclusionistic 'white power' corporate state however, as the WASP establishment of smallish New England has kept its exclusive hold on American federal power. The ethnic plurality that is America has rarely if ever been tangibly real in terms of politics--America is almost a caste system of intergenerational ethnic poverty or ethnic wealth, mixed with a fascist corporate state administration.

3. Like Germany, America is fascism of the simplistic image. People have become the simple cardboard cutouts that they see in the media. However, the ideology in America is less a unifying force--it is a separating force, a numbing force. By default, taken as a whole, the overall message is await your programming, seek out your programming and adopt the programming that you feel is suited to you. Whatever you do, do adopt a programming you see on the television. Instead of German mass rallies, there are isolated rallies of individuals around 500 channels. State Individualism is different from actual individualism because in State Individualism you are indoctrinated to love the shallow images sold to you, in Orwellian fashion.

4. American fascism is so appealing because it is so beguiling: it pretends to offer individuation and freedom and representation though all you can ever become is an adjunct of some mass marketing or targeted marketing campaign, designed by American fascists to trick you into buying something (whether items or ideologies), by manipulating your values and numbing them into acquiescence instead of reflecting your values or encouraging you to proactively act upon them.

5. Like Germany, American fascism's is a divide and conquer ideology. Though instead of on racism or Aryanism, it is fascism of the individual, a wider chaos. Instead of dividing people up into ethnic groups with state propaganda, and then going after each one group separately, the state propaganda is down to the level of individuals, and the police state under Homeland security goes after particular individuals based on your consumption patterns, or your reading materials. Like Germany, like Hitler, all 500 channels in America are centrally programmed from the same corporate ideology. Like Germany, like Hitler, the secret police record everything and watch everyone's moves.

6. While Germany had a one party State, a rather crude and obvious form of fascism, American fascism has perfected the co-option of all parties of a multi-party system to create the semblance of democracy when there is nothing democratic about it:

a. First, all districts under American fascism are gerrymandered to one party only--feasibly a one party state. Elections are held as distractions to these structural fascist frameworks. Incumbency is 99.9% under American fascism. The actual chance of an election unseating someone is virtually nil. Look it up yourself: There are only around 45 Congressional districts under American fascism that are party competitive demographically: the other 490 of them are One Party State Districts. American fascism is getting so well organized that over the past 20 years, more and more Representative and Senators inherit their positions over and over once more because no one even bothers to run another candidate under American fascism's One Party Districts. For example, in the year 2000, 90 different Congressional seats under American fascism simply inherited their positions because no one ran against them. Elections had successfully been institutionalized out of existence by gerrymandered districts. In 2002, it was around 70 inherited positions. In the early 1990s, it was typically on the order of around 10-20 inherited positions. A lot has been learned in the past 10 years by American fascists on gerrymandering districts.

b. The ballot boxes are entirely privatized, and connected to modems allowing vote rigging on a national scale without a paper trail. The main company is ES&S--which is actually owned by the Rothchilds if you follow the ownership trail to 'the boss.' Citizens under American fascism are without the right to inspect the voting machinery and without the right to see the code that counts the votes. As Stalin said, "It's who counts the votes that wins elections."

c. American fascism has perfected the manipulation of majoritarian voting practices (FPTP: "first past the post") for bringing divide and conquer principles into party politics: FPTP (and private election funding) allows for easy manipulation that squeezes any actual minority candidate--the fascist candidate--into power easily without having to appeal to the majority to win. This is done by funding a fake opposition party that splits the majority of voters across several similar parties, allowing the default American fascist candidate to win by divide and conquer. This type of 'divide and conquer to win' strategy is only possible through the FPTP voting framework which institutionalizes the ability to manipulate party voting outcomes (and by funding elections exclusively through unlimited privatized funds), which enshrines the 'divide and conquer to win' principle into party politics in every election. For example, there are many cases throughout the 20th century of Wall Street funding a 'fake opposition' candidate to split either the left or the right vote for the Presidency that they were worried was becoming "too democratic". To assure that their more preferred candidate can win with a plurality of votes (less than 50%), American corporate state fascists have learned that splitting the vote is easier than appealing to voters, easier than appealing to the actual majority. The same has been done throughout local elections as well, recently like when Republicans were caught funding 'fake leftists' to split the left vote in Western states, or Republicans attempting to 'fund the Green party' to run against the Democratic party in certain Arizona elections that were going to elect Democrats. This is the way American fascism has perfected 'unparty politics': by using FPTP to 'divide and conquer to win.'

d. Another way that American fascism has perfected a divide and conquer strategy in party politics is by making the One Party State into a Two Headed Beast. This effectively co-opts any grass roots movements whether the right or the left into the waiting maw of either of the two wings of the same corporate state party. American fascists are in domination of both the Democratic or the Republican parties. Their agenda, whether domestically or for foreign policy is identical. You can vote for only their American fascist candidates. Like the Soviet Union, the mechanisms of elections were preserved for popular legitimacy of the one party state and to mystify that it was a one party state-that had nothing to do with elections and instead everything to do with aristocratic sponsorship of various sorts.

e. Entirely privatized party debates, since the middle 1980s, make American fascism very secure. Any public debates are a private issue under American fascism which allowing "private organizers" to exclude public candidates people from televised debates--in 2000, it was both Buchanan and Nader. Plus, television innately is a medium that instructs people on how to feel about opposition candidates in a centralized manner, organized from the American fascist State. Or, it simply ignores them in the well-insulated media bubble it creates and coats itself within.

f. In American fascism, entirely privatized election funding assures that the divide and conquer in party funding mentioned above can work. It assures that the same corporate elites can fund all candidates as well--equally. Go to  http://www.opensecrets.org . It's all there.

7. Like Germany, American fascism has a very strong sense of what sciences will serve the State and corporations, instead of the people. American fascism concentrates on them alone in terms of funding or ideological stress in society at large. Two particular sciences are the main handmaidens of indoctrinating technicians and other State workers and the citizens at large with State Individualism as indoctrination and State Individualism as enforcement. This is exactly how the ideologies of Race Science and Aryanism served both as carrot and stick for German fascist populations and told them how to comport themselves by giving them a definition of the human. American corporate state fascism in its State sciences has a similar dual "indoctination and repression" emphasis carrot and stick approach.

a. In American fascism, for social issues (the 'carrot' issue) the State sciences are all administrative in point of view, enshrined in an almost exclusively macro perspective of economics (in America and in Western European nation-states at large by the way) organized around a methodology that facilitates teaching students that data collection and analysis should be taken from the point of view of elite management, tinkering, and manipulation by creating data that is only useful for instrumentalized and centralized control over multiple- and localized variations. Tools like (fictional) mathematical models and large scale statistical databases are designed exclusively for State administration and corporate administration. Data and techniques are interchagable, utilized back and forth, across this public/private morass of the American corporate state. This is being seen more and more with police work as well, as corporate consumption information has been seamlessly integrated into the State security network of surveillance. Science practices of State management actually have a much longer lineage if you read Michel Foucault: they were of course invented in the early to mid 1700s in England and France mostly for State administration issues of population monitoring and taxation expansion. Later, as the corporate states were being formulated-and many localisms were being repressed-they were used to keep up with how well State engineering attempts over society at large were proceeding with society becoming only one large State-experimental model gleaned from aggregate data, and then people took decisions based on this aggregate data. (This is American educator John Dewey's idea by the way, mass experimentation on society in real-time experiments. Instead of education as some sort of learning regimen that improves an individual or teaches them to be able to judge and discriminate in their thinking or senses, American fascisms state sciences are designed to improve the State control over individuals or make individuals only amenable and trained to join up with systemic control mechanisms themselves. If you are interested in reading about this I recommend www.johntaylorgatto.com, where a bit of his magnum opus book the Underground History of American Education is excerpted, which discusses (in so many words) corporate state American fascism in education and the origins of the corporate state interlock in American education.

b. On the other side of this macro perspective--on the micro or individual issues, American fascism is enshrined in the micro perspective of psychology, which has been instrumentallized and warped into being an experimental science of the police security State aspects of American fascism-as it was under Germany as well. This is documented quite well in a pithy chapter by McGowan's book Understanding the F-Word (2002). McGowan discusses in his book in how the discipline of psychology as practiced in the United States has always been a part of the State military or police mechanisms of experimental control over persons, as in this discipline (funded mostly by military budgets interestingly enough) the State learns to manipulate individuals successfully through motivation priming, enflaming outrage, generating fear, testing biological compounds upon them, or even killing them under different regimes and tabulating the results to see what methods are most efficient. Once more administration and the 'system' quality of data are visible as well-psychology as praticed as part of the tools of citizen management. This goes for all the educational sciences in the United States as well, which have a 'system' bias and manipulation bias as well, from behaviorism which asks questions like "how do we get manipulate people as individuals and groups' instead of 'how do we help people discriminate and learn.' Within these American fascist uses of psychology and educational psychology, there are biological connections: everything from sociobiology to eugenics were invented in Anglo/American countries, instead of in Germany by the way. Even though these are closer to false philosophical a priori tenets instead of sciences, and they had their origins in Britain and the United States.

8. Like Germany, American fascism has a privatized through centralized money context actually designed off German models thanks to many including the Warburg family (another important European international banking family that can trace its lineage for around 400 years as international bankers). This 'centralized-privatized' American corporate state context had been attempted for over 100 years in the United States and had been rejected. It was passed with what amounted to high corruption. The best summary I have found is in Epperson's the Unseen Hand (though this book si an invaluable summary of research, beware of the religious motivations-instead of simply historic-of this book!), or Antony Sutton's The Federal Reserve Conspiracy. First, this American corporate state framework has enslaved the American public to an American Federal Reserve all stock is privately owned monopoly stock: nothing public ever can touch that or complain about their 'scientifically' created depressions or inflations that are designed to shift debt and wealth to them whenever they want by manipulating the price of money and interest payments in bank debt of citizens. Second, this corporate state that administers the financial relations of American fascism creates massive debt severage of the American government itself to international private bankers who hold the bonds (literal and figurative) of the United States.

9. Unlike Germany, which had a state ideology interestingly enough of environmentalism, health, and well toned bodies, American fascism has propagandized through State Individualism ideologies in the interest of protecting ecological degradation as a "individual [corporate state] right", to protect ill health and lack of hospital care and medical coverage for 40 million of its citizens, and to protect a people who are all 50% overweight from ever seriously considering the health ramifications of their lives or their foods or their terrible medical care (The American corporate state hospital framework is the third leading cause of death in the United States [malpractice, erroneous administration of 'treatments'], according to the New England Journal of Medicine.) Further damaging the interlinkages between health, ecology, and economics, the American fascist corporate state interlock is the world's largest polluter whether we look at the State organizations (the US military is the largest polluter in the United States) or the corporations under its imperial (German?) eagle wings that make the military armaments and other paraphernalia of world domination. Unlike this interesting environmental difference in hindsight regarding German Nazism to present American fascism, American fascism has become hyper-fascist and destructive of itself: it has come out against anything that is innately good like organic food, letting consumers know what is in their food, letting them know the state of the air they breathe, the state of the water they drink, against cutting down on fat consumption, against health rules at work (the number of injuries on the job in America are extraordinary), and against food labels that would "scare" consumers into learning about the real risk and leaving these corporate state administered consumptive frameworks. American fascism has created a death culture that is destroying the whole planet and destroying Americans themselves, and destroying their own economy domestically. A good book on all these interconnections is Analuskas's Discovering America As it Is.

10. American fascism by itself is far from the sole blame because it exists in this generated context of its own feedback: the context of the massifyed consumers that it has generated which lack all community and localist connections.

a. With American fascism choosing to massifying consumers (instead of to massify citizens as in German Nazism,) American fascism has created the most secure corporate state imaginable where everyone is reliant for corporate state distribution of their individual identities because it has successfully (almost) destroyed every sense of localism, actual community, family relations, and discriminating education abilities there is or was in the United States. It's a wall of weltering plasma-like chaos and ignorance without an up or down, without any perspective at all once you cross the borders into America. American fascism has unleashed a whirlwind of sensory deprived grasping anonymous consumers without connections to anything except the simple ideological images of American fascism for their world view or their own identities. American corporate state elites thusly ride these consumers in an apocalyptic pressure, meaning, without any connection to the planet or particular localities, without connections to each other, or to any responsibilities of planetary sustainability. Since the only connection on the individual level between massifyed consumers is the corporate state itself, this assures that a diet of simple images and simple de-nutrified commodities is both State administered and administered by aspects of peer pressure. Repression in American fascism has become characterized by low educational attainment, low nutrition and low health combined with high personality programming through advertising (the State Individualism ideology). This has become a state of mind and habit actively desired by the American consumers-for the most part. Americans mostly live in a movie. Without the movie's reinforcement of State individualism, they would see the social and individual rot they live in and share as something imposed on them from the State.

b. Even though American fascist elites have created the formal institutional and formal policy frameworks that have destroyed any localisms in the United States into this massifyed consumer rally so to speak, it is this massified consumer rally itself that has been unleashed as desperate for identity and community which clings to the political forces of the American/transnational corporate state. Each side of this beast rides each other in a feedback loop of expansion, keeping the whole American-proxy world headed on a consumptive goosestep towards a combined health, ecological, and economic abyss. Mass consumers as a mass pressure of individuals though decidedly separated (who consume State Individualism sponsored modes of being) are partially to blame for American fascism. They are raised to know nothing else. As Germans had to be led to follow along, citizens under American fascism are born into a crade-to-grave context of American fascism and know nothing else: they simply coast along from kindergarten to elder care, sucked dry at every step.

c. What are the characteristics of people under American fascism? American fascism's mass politics are mass consumers. They are chracterized by mass ambivalence, low self worth, and fear of politics for the most part. They are unable to form opinions or carry their memories beyond a very short term period. America is without a history, without a means of gaining one. Bring them anything, anything that will keep up the suspension of disbelief: the Nuremberg rallies in the United States are consumptive, manipulative-behaviorist, and individuated--instead of political mass rallies. Wars for oil are seen as fine with these brigands. Insecurity sells. The next big thing and fads are so important--without them, the blandness and repression from all institutional quarters would be evident immediately.

d. And furthermore, any localisms to get out are swooped down upon by American fascism to get commodified and spun as marketing strategies back to the consumer masses, denutered of course of their political messages: for instance, the co-option of folk music beginning in the early 1960s, the co-option of rock music by the early 1970s, the co-option of any attempts at serious news reporting (the invention of the cloying style of "happy voice" on news is only from 1970!) and the extreme reduction of foreign news and labor news from the late 1970s onward have created a bubble world, almost a separate planet called America, on this shared planet. America is a parasite to the earth: 4 percent of world population destroying and using around 30-40% of world output each year. American fascism, like the subtle curve of a television set's tube, is a bubble world encased in its own imagery.

All of this is why American fascism is the most successful fascism the world has known.

So, it's time for a more accurate flag that represents this mutable, transient ideology of State individualism! Where you are the tabula rasa manipulated and filled as you are sculpted willingly into American fascists designs. The flag is appropriately cobbled from television itself, from several 'test patterns' of television--past and present. The flag says, "Await your programming." And keep updating, and keep watching. Do you have an identity without it? Prepared to be sculpted! Brainless Couch Potatoes, Standby!

Postscript -

Once everything is co-opted however, watch out! Then everyone is scrunched together in opposition of American global fascism and they begin the affirming process of particular geographic differences and variability--the very specific geographic experiences we all have for human health, ecological, and economic externalities. We all have a common enemy: corporate militarized globalization.

Any solutions would be the opposite of these PARTICULAR POINTS or would remove these points.
American fascism is a structural arrangement. Only structural changes and different formal governmental arrangements can dismantle it.



Colonel Kurtz's "Diamond Bullet" 21.Jun.2004 00:02


American fascism comes out of different roots than that of Germany. It may indeed be that ours will turn out, through its subtlety, to be even more dangerous, as the article suggests.

Some distinctions might be useful since a lot of folks get confused when the "F" word is brought out: There is no revolutionary aspect to American fascism, unlike in Germany. I use the word "revolutionary" in a purely objective sense here, that is, aiming at the radical overthrow of an existing order, no matter the direction (right or left, etc.) of the new order. This is because our fascism comes directly out of the existing capitalist order, rather than co-opting genuine hostility to it. Remember that Mussolini, in the original fascism, spent many years as a socialist... whereas today's architects of fascism have always been reactionaries.

One result of this is that we still (for now!) have things like indymedia. No fully totalitarian state could allow this. Our rulers are confident, and they are probably right, that those who read indymedia can be easily neutralized by conventional repression should we ever act. What they are concerned about are lower and middle-class taxpayers and workers, that's why they allow indymedia to exist, at least for the time being, while pursuing the relentless concentration of mainstream media.

This leads me to a deeper hypothesis - that while American fascism may be or become more dangerous than the original wave in the 20th century, its architects lack a fully conscious understanding of what they are doing. Certainly I don't mean to say they are nicey-nice happy people, but many of those involved (and that's most important, for neither a Cheney or a Hitler can do anything without functionaries to carry out orders) in the United States genuinely think they are defending "freedom". This wasn't true of the Nazis, or even Mussolini's movement. They KNEW what they were doing on an ideological level, which was anti-capitalist almost as much as it was anti-communist, even as it accepted financial support from industrialists.

What I fear the most is when today's rulers wake up to the full implications of what they are doing and can do, and that realization WILL come if the vicious cycle of the Pax Americana accelerates. Already there are signs that consciousness is developing in the neoconservative movement over the past few decades, especially the Straussian element. Certain parts of it are unprecedented in the entire scope of American capitalism, as bad as that is itself.

There was a time following the end of the Cold War when it seemed to many academics, politicians, diplomats, etc., not to mention a large segment of the public, that the prospect of general world war between great powers was in the past. It was inconceivable to many.

That is no longer true. I'm sorry.

Montag's premise wrong, nazism always been small wealthy corp. internationalism 21.Jun.2004 00:38

original poster

"American fascism comes out of different roots than that of Germany."


1. Wall Street created German Nazism:

Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler by Antony C. Sutton
 link to www.amazon.com

or read it for free on the web

2. Nazism was always an idea of a very small hugely wealthy corporate state internationism from the start instead of a "German" phenomenon.

IBM and the Holocaust: The Strategic Alliance between Nazi Germany and America's Most Powerful Corporation -- by Edwin Black
 link to www.amazon.com

Trading with the enemy: An exposť of the Nazi-American money plot, 1933-1949 by Charles Higham
 link to www.amazon.com

Trading with the enemy: An exposť of the Nazi-American money plot, 1933-1949 by Charles Higham
 link to www.amazon.com

American Swastika/the Shocking Story of Nazi Collaborators in Our Midst from 1933 to the Present Day
by Charles Higham
 link to www.amazon.com

Understanding the F-Word: American Fascism and the Politics of Illusion by David McGowan
 link to www.amazon.com

2. Eugenics was always an idea of a very small hugely wealthy corporate state internationism from the start instead of a "German" phenomenon. Anglo-Britain created eugenics, and it was only exported to Germany, and was monitored from Anglo-Britain in real time as it was being implemented:

War Against the Weak: Eugenics and America's Campaign to Create a Master Race -- by Edwin Black
 link to www.amazon.com

3. Anglo-Britain made sure anti-Semetism was well funded and organized properly:

The Secret War Against the Jews: How Western Espionage Betrayed the Jewish People
by John Loftus, Mark Aarons
 link to www.amazon.com

Unholy Trinity: The Vatican, the Nazis, and the Swiss Banks -- by Mark Aarons, John Loftus
 link to www.amazon.com

4. Escaped guilty American branches of international Nazism set up and ran the Nuremberg show trials, which falsely saw to it that Nazis were allow to shortly go free after sentencing, and saw to it that ratlines took the majority of the Nazis to the United States where they worked in private and public sectors on the same experiements they were performing in Auschwitz, for example. These networks are running most of the United States into the ground in this very hour:

Understanding the F-Word: American Fascism and the Politics of Illusion by David McGowan
 link to www.amazon.com

American Swastika/the Shocking Story of Nazi Collaborators in Our Midst from 1933 to the Present Day
by Charles Higham
 link to www.amazon.com

Secret Agenda: The United States Government, Nazi Scientists, and Project Paperclip, 1945 to 1990
by Linda Hunt
 link to www.amazon.com

Operation Mind Control by Bowart
 link to www.amazon.com

Premise misunderstood 21.Jun.2004 14:04


I do not at all dispute the transnational capitalist role in establishing fascism. That it is largely a result of that system is plainly true.

My premise is not that fascism is an exclusively "German" thing, I am not an adherent to Goldhagen's thesis nor those similar to it. My point is only that there were certain aspects in Germany's fascism that are not present here. And as the original article makes clear, there are aspects of our fascism that weren't around then. That's basically it.

I am not trying to argue against the original article, I basically agree. I am glad to see you know Edwin Black's work... I have met him more than once, very impassioned person and an impressive reseacher. I am also familiar with Operation Paperclip... how else do people think, for example, we "developed" all of our jet, missile, rocket technologies that we've used to kill millions since 1945? All these things were based directly on wartime Nazi work and the Nazi researchers working for us postwar.

take 2 21.Jun.2004 18:23


"My premise is not that fascism is an exclusively "German" thing, I am not an adherent to Goldhagen's thesis nor those similar to it. My point is only that there were certain aspects in Germany's fascism that are not present here."

I take you are arguing for a binary or dichotomy of German = 'revolutionary' anti-capitalist fascism, while US = 'reactionary' capitalist fascism. OK, I see your point now. I would still disagree: you could say that Germany was both reactionary (it was built off opposing the fear of USSR international socialism [sponsored by other Wall Street elites as well by the way] for a supply side managed 'national' socialism which was basically I.G. Farben with a public face. It was additionally revolutionary in that who were opposing the communists in the 1910s and early 1920s in Germany when there was civil war was hardly a reactionary force, it was other revolutionary forces with occult background that simply had authoritarian ideas of a different cast. I see Germany both reactionary and revolutionary simultaneously, and the two words themselves I see as a mistake to pretend or essentialize that they are oppositional. There is a lot in the history of 'thinking' of proposing false intellecutal binaries that totally fall part upon examination of a particular case. The world is more fuzzy and there is little requirement to even have binaries in my opinion to research or analyze. Reactionary qualities can definitely be seen here, intermerged with revolutionary ones (reading, occult teachings). The best and most frightening treatment I have seen about how much it was meant to establish an occult based society of mind control is here, from cradle to grave:

Gods and beasts: The Nazis and the occult by Dusty Sklar
 link to www.amazon.com

On Wall Street and Bolshevik support simultaneous with Hitler support as elites battle lines break down somewhat:

Wall Street and the Bolshevik revolution By Antony C. Sutton
 link to www.amazon.com
or read it for free:

"I do not at all dispute the transnational capitalist role in establishing fascism..."

Well, my turn to be misunderstood. I would dispute this. I am one who would hardly call what is going on some abstract historical force called 'capitalism.' To misdiagnose what is going on here, is to fail to have any workable response. In my opinion, I have come to an unavoidable conclusion instead of something I typically want to face. We are dealing with a select few very inbred family lines with ideological goals that adapt themselves over the generations--sometimes by working with each other and sometimes against each other. Certainly they have themselves been 'elevated' by economic forces. However, many of these economic forces they have politicall designed themselves, so political forces are paramount in their designs of huge scaled economic forces where local economies have been intentoinally undermined and a managerial society can be supported. I hardly think that this is sustainable, though I believe that is exactly what they are doing for ideological goals.

Many of these families are privately and publicly intergenerationally involved with revolutionary ideas, the occult, dissociative identity disorders, and they are rich enough to attempt to make over whole societies as living experiments to work out their ideas. They basically operate like organized crime (i.e., very economcally territorial; and the ends justify the means), though they have ideological goals instead of material goals. To use Edith Starr Miller's phrase, we are dealing with occult theocracy instad of 'capitalism'. Many of the sciences we have are designed to make people people technicians for their private policies, which I see as unsustainble and therefore should be rejected.

Back on the point about a merged revolutionary/reactionary quality, what the U.S. is attempting--or rather what certain groups are attempting to do to the U.S.--is hardly only reactionary. Bush Senior was publicly talking about New World Order 10 years ago, they have ideological goals and can be so reactionary per se because they feel they ARE serving revolutionary goals.

You may find these interesting:

The Invention of Capitalism: Classical Political Economy and the Secret History of Primitive Accumulation, by Michael Perelman
 link to www.amazon.com

Fire in the Minds of Men: Origins of the Revolutionary Faith -- by James H. Billington
 link to www.amazon.com

America's Secret Establishment: An Introduction to the Order of Skull & Bones -- by Antony C. Sutton
 link to www.amazon.com

I am hardly claiming that these intergenerational families are the only political interest in society, only that they depend on assuring that other interests are co-opted to serve them instead of realizing their own interests are pretty much making the whole institutional framework of their lives more local, durable, and representative instead of based on clientelism to these manipulative groups.

it's not surprising... 21.Jun.2004 18:28

this thing here

... but in my opinion it is unfortunate that when people hear the word "fascism", all they immediately think of is nazi germany. perhaps we should get away from that immediate comparison. in order for america to be fascist, i do not believe it will neccessarily have to look and feel and operate just like nazi germany.

the term "friendly fascism" is often applied to american fascism. but i also think the terms "hidden fascism", "unnoticed fascism" or "uncared about fascism" could be used.

when fascism happens here in this country, as i think it will if present power structures as they exist today continue to exist, it will be a fascism of equal coercive power to that of the nazi's, but it will be hidden so cleverly that a vast majority of people will not notice or care. and it's violence will be felt on far away shores, or hidden in prison cells.

imagine if you had no real rights, yet you could "vote" for a "leader". imagine your entire life, your decisions, your health, your records, all that you buy, could be investigated and monitored continually by an internal security apparatus, yet you never knew. or, even more tragically, you gave the "i'm not doing anything wrong, so i don't care about the surveillance cameras and microphones". and here in a consumer society, imagine if you had no real rights of self expression, no real choices in life, except the ability to go to stores and choose between different consumer products. as if, somehow, the ability to choose between different toothpastes was as equally an important right as the ability to choose what you want to say about your government, or what you want to say about the boss at the toothpaste factory.

this tragic and absolutely dangerous conflating of two very different "freedoms" has already taken a massive foothold in the american conscious. this is why many americans seem to believe that capitalism = Democratic Governance Itself, that it is capitalism which has made america free, that it is capitalism that wrote the bill of rights, that capitalism itself gaurantees our right to speak freely. this is so tragically wrong. citizens of china can choose between different consumer items, maybe even toothpastes, yet they cannot worship or speak freely.

and this distortion and false consciousness of what makes america free will continue to be taken advantage of to the fullest.

as guy debord put it: "The ideological-totalitarian class in power is the power of a world turned on its head: the stronger the class, the more forcefully it proclaims that it does not exist, and its strength serves first and foremost to assert its nonexistence."

and fascism in america will be that much easier to hide because of the help of the so-called "independent" media. the media, whether entertainment or "news", acting as any other massively wealthy and powerful industry in america, will do all that it can to say "we are small and independent and powerless" and "america is free" and "fascism could never happen here" and "fascism isn't happening here". all this brazen double talk and propaganda will do well to forcefully proclaim the non-existence of a fascism which really does exist.

i am looking for three signs, and then i will feel confident that america has achieved it's own kind of fascism:

- a vast majority of americans really do begin to believe that their ability to go shopping for different brands of the same consumer product represents a "freedom" of "choice" as important or more important than the freedom to speak, or make, or think, or pray freely. "i don't need to speak freely. i just want the freedom to go shopping."

- when there is no difference between corporate/industry power and government power: corporatism. watch for the re-emergence of monopolies in another form- "the big 3 media corporations", "the big two energy corporations", "the big 3 auto corporations" - mafia like cartels which all operate according to the same economic and political agenda behind the scenes, while forcefully proclaiming to consumers all the "different" choices they offer. "an industry wide lobbying effort today resulted in the passing of a new law which makes it illegal for patients of h.m.o.'s to sue their h.m.o.'s for negligence or wrongdoing."

- weakened rights. the slow languishing, through lack of use, of the rights listed in the bill of rights, combined with an active attempt on the part of reactionary right wingers in government and industry to tailor, demean or even strip rights away from citizens. for an example of what might happen: imagine a right wing politician, or even a cabinet member of a right wing administration, the attorney general perhaps, proposing that any american citizen convicted of any crime, no matter how minor the felony or violent the misdemeanor, will automatically have first their citizenship stripped, and then and thereby, all of their rights. the right wing hates rights to no end. criminals are an easy target. who's left after the criminals? suspected criminals. and who's left after that?

Nobody does it better - Though sometimes I wish someone could. 21.Jun.2004 23:43


America does fascism better than Germany?

When do we get the big parades and the monolithic architecture?

My parents voted for Bush and all I got was this lousy deficit.

oh, yeah 22.Jun.2004 10:58

we have happy fascism

Parades? Monlithic arcitecture?
Turn on your TV, go look out the window, stand on the sidewalk at the Rose Parade, or watch the Macy's Thanksgiving Parade in NYC, or any of a number of coporate-sponsored festivals and parades.
OK, they are not all in uniform "goosestepping", but maybe you'll notice that the military presence is very strong in our neighborhoods. They are recruiting our children, in the greade schools.
Go to Vancouver, WA on a Veterans day and you can see tanks and other military equipment on parade. We have Navy ships (armed or not? no one will tell)on our waterfront each June.
And as for architecture. Have you noticed the fortress-like Lloyd Center It's back to the community, guarded by a private security force?
What about the Federal "Justice" Center?
That's just a few to list.
"Fascism", it's all around us.
We fail to notice anymore, because it's all so damned familiar.

Regarding monolithic architecture.... 22.Jun.2004 11:47

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A key characteristic of urban architecture of the mid-20th century has been its creation of a monumental and dehumanized environment. If buildings, as physical artifacts, are manifestations of intangible cultural artifacts, we can likely uncover the matrix that produced them. Specifically, the often dehumanized architecture in our cities reflects a society that tends toward mechanization in fundamental ways.

The Modern International Style

Though it originated earlier, a new kind of city architecture was seized upon in the United States in the 1940's and 50's, cotemporaneous with the advent of American abstract expressionist painting. This architecture was unprecedented in its scale of both size and utilization. Loosely called "internationalism", this style drastically reshaped the urban core. Common visual traits of the new buildings were the absence of decoration, the use of concrete, metal, and glass for exteriors, and an overwhelming giantism, to employ social critic Lewis Mumford's word ("The City" 543). Massive slabs ascended high into the sky, with few points of rest for the eye of the viewer.
The ideological characteristics of the new post-war architecture were, among others, fixations with "rationality," order, linearity, and certainly quantification. Perhaps the most versatile and universal theme that can be drawn out of the list is that of mechanization. Indeed, it was a common expression to speak of the "building as a machine" (Emerson). To get a fuller picture of this trend, it is helpful to consult some representative examples.
Le Corbusier was one of the most prominent architects of the period, having influence on projects that he had no direct control over, as Mumford observes in his collection of essays From the Ground Up (43). In a sense he was not truly representative, since he provided vision that would not take shape for some time.
His 1923 plan for the demolition and rebuilding of Paris is a case in point. In it, Le Corbusier proposed immense skyscraper towers, all identical in appearance and plan, resting on a grid of superhighways. His being ahead of his time, however, did not prevent such an urban catastrophe from becoming the conceptual model for the architects and city planners that followed him. Le Corbusier also made use of brutalistic traits in his work, bare concrete giving a raw, rough, and antagonistic feel. As he himself put it in Towards a New Architecture, "decoration is of a sensorial and elementary order, as is color, and is suited to simple races, peasants, and savages" (Mehaffy/Salingaros). The very word "brutalism" should suggest a potential attraction of Le Corbusier. Is it a difficult leap, for anyone who has studied his proposals for remaking cities and communities, to integrate his work with the fact that he was a fascist sympathizer? He was not alone; even one with less forceful sympathies, Ludwig Mies van der Rohe, offered his services to Hitler (Mehaffy/Salingaros).
Oscar Niemeyer was another significant architect of the time. He is most noted for his design of the spontaneously constructed city of Brasilia. The capitol itself is comprised of two vertical slabs, atop a low and flat building. The latter is fairly typical, with the exception of the artistic convex structures on the roof. The entire complex is set in a uselessly open and vast, agoraphobia-inducing, plaza, with existentialistic sculpture installations. Brasilia, after its inaugural acclaim, became ringed by unplanned and impoverished shantytowns. The specific peculiarities of Brazil's military dictatorship at the time aside, it is nevertheless worth asking if such an urban development was a coincidence. Obviously there are many factors involved, and certainly a direct causal link cannot be simplistically established, but there is still a correlation.
Frank Lloyd Wright is not as typical a case, since the designs of his that were actually built are more visually modest than those of Le Corbusier and Niemeyer, and often pleasant. Lewis Mumford notes that they exhibit characteristics that are on a human scale, and have relationships to the local area, such as Fallingwater or Tokyo's Imperial Hotel ("Myth" [21]). Nonetheless, though, Wright fell victim to the obsession with transforming the urban landscape into a megatechnic utopia. He left plans for a City of the Future, replete with mile-high skyscrapers separated by empty land; and the citizens of this supposed paradise would travel in helicopters, totally isolated from their fellow human beings. In essence, the suburbanization of the city, but with structures so tall that they would be absurdly inefficient, in terms of both energy use and the facilitation of community (Emerson).
The International style is not totally defined by monumental height by any means. But the "notion that the skyscraper is a symbol of the modern age" seems, if unintentionally, to take precedence over other parameters, as Mumford writes ("Ground" 43). "Skyscrapers conceived without respect for human scale or insight into human requirements are indeed symbolic, but they are symbols of the way specious considerations of fashion, profit, prestige, abstract aesthetic form... have taken precedence over... human beings" (43). Rather than accommodating the physical and psychological needs of those who live out their lives in the constructed environment, city planners and industrial leaders chose "geometrical fundamentalism" as their starting point (Mehaffy/Salingaros). Even some of the architects involved turned away from their own creations, such as Dr. Harvey Corbett, who wrote as early as 1941, "... I am not so keen about skyscrapers as I used to be, I am just finishing out two of them in New York at the present moment; perhaps these will be among the last of those multi-story monstrosities of which we Americans seem to be so proud" (Read 74).
But it didn't end; instead the engine was so powerful that voices of reservation were drowned out by the sound of expansion. Even worse, America, as the "leader of the Free World," allowed the cancer eating up the core of New York, Chicago, etc., to metastasize to the rest of the world. Latin America, in particular, became entranced by the new aesthetic, as well as western Europe. The latter, having been reduced to wreckage by the unplanned destruction of the War, now put into place planned destruction. Across Germany, France and Britain, drab housing and office projects sprouted.

Modernist Roots

It is not an accident that the new American architecture exhibited dehumanized, and dehumanizing, elements; it did not emerge ex nihilo, and here we must examine some of the ideological roots of Internationalism. The following treatment is not in any way a fully comprehensive analysis - such a thing is not possible in the available space, if at all. Instead, we have to constrain ourselves to a sample of relevant parallels.
As the industrialization process extended across Europe, new styles and aesthetics appeared in art and architecture. Art Nouveau (literally, "New Art") combined a quasi-romanticist aesthetic with a recognition of the new mechanical realities. Mumford, like many students of history, has identified "a general movement of thought between 1890 and 1915... which welcomed the machine as an active ingredient in modern culture and a new source of form" ("Myth" 363). Art Deco, in the twenties and thirties, carried this process forward, appealing as an aesthetic to not only the emerging corporate capitalist order, but also to the more explicitly collectivist movements of socialism and fascism. In its streamlined classicism they saw a reflection of their own ideological constructs, such as technological dynamism and obsession with power.
Perhaps surprisingly, it is in the Dionysian ideology of Futurism, however, that the true philosophical elements of Modernist megatechnics can be seen. F. T. Marinetti, the founder of Futurism, proclaimed in his 1909 manifesto a new age, divorced from any remaining tendencies of introspection or moderation: "Museums, libraries... we will have none of it, we, the young, strong and living Futurists!" (Joll 182). Although the rhetoric Marinetti uses, no doubt genuinely, is replete with Nietzschean ideas like human initiative as the anchor of history, the reality of Futurism is a total surrender to the process of mechanization - specifically the mechanization of human identity (184). Additionally, as Cinzia Sartini Blum writes, futurism "incorporates empowering objects (as in the mythical construct of metallized or mechanized man), erecting a rigid and impermeable boundary or armor that channels affective energy into a struggle against a feminine or feminized other" (Blum 164). While she is speaking specifically of the language of futurism, the observation can be generalized to the ideology as a whole. She also states that "natural and societal obstacles to (the futurist self's) limitless expansion are either eradicated... or mastered by way of assimilation, that is, transformed into objects of desire and conquest" (viii).
This is not too different from the mechanistic, expansionist thread in Modernism, undermining the belief that the application of philosophical and technical objectivism to all realms of human existence represents rationality. "Progress" is not just "advance".

Technocracy: An Unconscious Futurism

It would appear, then, that beneath the rhetoric about "rationality," "objectivity," "technics as a neutral tool," etc., there lies concealed a deeply rooted irrationality - one that emotively demands that conquest of the other; of populations, of countries, of nature, of anything perceived as feminine, of history and tradition, and so on. Despite its positive attributes, the Modernist International style constitutes an embodiment of technocracy. Technocracy in this sense does not mean the direct rule of technicians and scientists, but rather the ideological and social supremacy of technical ends and means.
Unlike the original futurism, or true fascism for that matter, the technocratic order is not generally characterized by rapturous emotiveness, an irrational narcotic of identity and actions. These things may very well exist beneath the surface; but they are not consciously recognized and embraced. Thus we might speak of the megatechnic paradigm, the path which led to the monumental urban side of Modernism, as an unconscious futurism. It has direct ideological parallels to the original futurism of Marinetti, but it lacks the articulateness (some would say honesty) to realize that fact (Blum 166n).

Implications and Correlations

The supremacy of all things mechanistic lies behind the increasing homogenization of societies around the world, especially the West. The current ongoing wave is being driven by an economic order whose essence is the concentration of wealth and, capital being the ability to make change happen, power. But it is deeper than just capitalist societies, for Marxism inherited the technocratic meme as well. Both corporate capitalism and corporate communism represent two sides of the same coin on this question.
Resulting from both, if we could hypothetically extrapolate to the logical ends, is what Mumford and others called "Organization Man" ("Myth 276). Mumford defines "Organization Man" as "that part of the human personality whose further potentialities for life and growth have been suppressed for the purpose of controlling the fractional energies that are left, and feeding them into a mechanically ordered system" (276). Such a human type shows "the stamp of mechanical regularity," conditioned to "follow the program, to obey instructions... never to question the origin of an order or to inquire as to its final destination," in short, the advent of total social and mental automatism.
It is such a social system that has produced increasing levels of alienation among the population, not just of the lower economic strata, but also (particularly?) in the middle classes, those who worked hard to achieve "the good life." Those who find themselves unable to endure such uncertainty and anomie are often far removed from communities attempting to construct positive alternatives, even if they as individuals are perceptive and articulate regarding their identity and place. As Mumford keenly observes, often the countless escape mechanisms offered by the commercial and cultural media are resorted to, particularly "speed in all its forms, from drag races to drugs" ("Myth" [27]). Thus a sense of movement and the illusion of purpose is gained, even though it is largely or entirely from without. Fascism itself would qualify as an escape mechanism; albeit one that retains and enshrines as supreme the original malignancy of automatism (Blum vii).
Accompanying the breakdown between human beings on a community level is the upsurge of what can only be termed barbarism on a global level, as Lewis Mumford also notes. For the modern rulers, or directors, of our societies are technologically capable of unleashing far more violence then did all the killers throughout history. Even more importantly, they have demonstrated their willingness, and in the more indicative cases, their compulsion, to do so. The past century has seen over a hundred million killed from the miscarriages of social mechanization and the dehumanized purges and clashes that resulted. This unanticipated brutality is the way of life for Organization Man, an archetype of which might be Adolf Eichmann, "the obedient exterminator" ("Myth" 279). He is not confined simply to the formally totalitarian countries, controlling the nuclear arsenals of total genocide in the "liberal democratic" nations as well (279).
The "geometrical fundamentalism" of our Modern urban monoliths is not an accident. It is the ideal container for the new human type, the automaton, conditioned by socio-economic-cultural process to be stunted in mind and community (Mehaffy/Salingaros). "Form follows function" indeed, as Louis Sullivan, the founder of the American skyscraper (albeit a far more humanized and efficient kind than what followed) stated (Mumford "Ground" 76).


We are over three-quarters of a century into an unprecedented development, an explosion, in Western ideas and technics. One product of this dubious flowering has been a new architectural aesthetic - an architecture that claims to be an embodiment of humanity's "victory over Nature," yet often hardly recognizes the nature of humanity. It is a result of an inhuman and inhumane social order that champions the ideal of Howard Roark (based on Frank Lloyd Wright) in the closing scene of Ayn Rand's Fountainhead: standing completely triumphant - and utterly alone.

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LeCourbusier, fascism, and well before; leftist cities and fascist states 24.Jun.2004 22:40


I have something to add to the quote from above: "Le Corbusier was one of the most prominent architects of the period, having influence on projects that he had no direct control over, as Mumford observes in his collection of essays From the Ground Up (43). In a sense he was not truly representative, since he provided vision that would not take shape for some time. His 1923 plan for the demolition and rebuilding of Paris is a case in point. In it, Le Corbusier proposed immense skyscraper towers, all identical in appearance and plan, resting on a grid of superhighways. His being ahead of his time, however, did not prevent such an urban catastrophe from becoming the conceptual model for the architects and city planners that followed him. Le Corbusier also made use of brutalistic traits in his work, bare concrete giving a raw, rough, and antagonistic feel. As he himself put it in Towards a New Architecture, "decoration is of a sensorial and elementary order, as is color, and is suited to simple races, peasants, and savages" (Mehaffy/Salingaros). The very word "brutalism" should suggest a potential attraction of Le Corbusier. Is it a difficult leap, for anyone who has studied his proposals for remaking cities and communities, to integrate his work with the fact that he was a fascist sympathizer?"

LeCourbusier offered his plan to financial elites, saying "build this city or suffer a leftist revolution" in so many words. This is exactly the same attitude of Baron Haussman's original 1850-1 'rewiring' of Paris designed to let the army deep into the contentious city. The large 'pleasant' boulevards of Paris were instrumentally designed as a miliary operation and likely could only be forced through under a royalist government--right after the 1848 failed attempt at revolution in Paris of course...

Proto-fascist groups has instrumentally been designing cities to facilitate invasive military operations since then or to keep cities divided. There is interesting points about this in Molotch and Logans' book _Urban Fortunes_.