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Ashcroft Terror Memo?

The report is further proof of the Bush administration's disregard for the Constitution and civil liberties and shows there was planning at high levels of government to abuse and torture detainees.
 http://www.ccr-ny.org/v2/reports/report.asp?ObjID=0Shrzgi8q7&Content=385

CCR OBTAINS INTERNAL PENTAGON REPORT OUTLINING FRAMEWORK FOR USE OF TORTURE

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Pentagon Report March 2003 (PDF) 6.7MB
 http://www.ccr-ny.org/v2/reports/docs/PentagonReportMarch.pdf

Synopsis

CCR has posted the controversial Pentagon "Working Group Report on Detainee Interrogations in the Global War on Terrorism: Assessment of Legal, Historical, Policy and Operational Considerations" on its website. The report is further proof of the Bush administration's disregard for the Constitution and civil liberties and shows there was planning at high levels of government to abuse and torture detainees.

CCR President Michael Ratner stated, "This memo and others show there was planning far up the chain of command to torture detainess; the atrocities at Abu Ghraib and elsewhere cannot be swept under the rug by going after low-level soldiers. Apparently highly placed U.S. officials were willing to approve interrogation methods that violate every convention on torture the United States has ever signed. But they needed to find cover for their actions and a defense to possible criminal prosecution. Government lawyers writing this report wildly distorted the law in an effort to exempt officials from potential criminal prosecution."

For further information about the report and all CCR cases, contact Jen Nessel 212.614.6449

For questions about the report as it relates to international law, please consult Mary Ellen O'Connell, Ohio State University Professor of Law at  oconnell.44@osu.edu .
Utterly chilling - like something out of Hitler's playbook 10.Jun.2004 11:33

Me

It makes the blood run cold to read 52 pages of such careful and deliberate parsing of the english language, contortions of legal precedent, and calculating manipulation of well-established doctrine, all to justify practices that to any rational person, anywhere in the world, spell torture. What sort of monsters must these "lawyers" be to sit for weeks on end hammering out this sort of demonic rationalization?

The report places much emphasis on "specific intent" to violate the multitude of laws, treaties and conventions against torture, arguing that perpetrators are not guilty of violating these proscriptions if they lacked the specific intent to violate them. I don't know if it occurred to the devils who wrote the report, but the mere fact of their having written it works as a powerful defense for anyone charged with violations. In the report, Pentagon and Justice Department lawyers formally advise that almost no type of horrific treatment constitutes torture under the statutes, and that in any case these statutes don't apply. No one charged with violating the statutes can therefore be said to have done so with the specific intent to violate them if they had a good faith belief in the legal interpretations spelled out in the report. Sort of like rationalizing that water is composed of hydrogen and oxygen, which are atmospheric gases, and therefore a murderer lacked specific intent to commit murder by holding the victim's head under water until death occurred. Under this doctrine, the most the killer could be convicted of would be stupidity or poor judgment.

If there is a hell, I hope these evil bastards wind up there. I can think of no more appropriate reward for them then to be consigned to the Dante-esque fate of tearing at each other's flesh for eternity.

word. 10.Jun.2004 16:18

this thing here

it IS evil and disgusting.

>The report places much emphasis on "specific intent" to violate the multitude of laws, treaties and conventions against torture, arguing that perpetrators are not guilty of violating these proscriptions if they lacked the specific intent to violate them.<

isn't that some "great" logic.

"gee, i didn't have any specific intent to run over the guy, so why should i have to face manslaughter charges?"

unbelievable.

these memo's show a willful and specific intent on the part of the bush admin. to insure the creation of an operating environment in which abuses exactly like those witnessed in iraq could happen under "cover" of "law".

if no one had taken pictures, if none of the pictures had been leaked to the press, it is a certainty that the abuses would be ongoing as we speak. afterall, the leadership WANTED such an operating environment.

(and has it been worth it? have we gained anything by it? some huge big important secret about terrorist plots? are we winning in iraq because of it? yeah right...)

here again is a perfect reflection of the kind of men, and the character of their leadership, that makes up the bush admin. and it's supporters. monsters and idiots who somehow preposterously believe that 9-11 is an excuse for anything and everything, that it provides an excuse to become just as much of a monster as any terrorist. this thinking is just completely beyond me. and because it comes from men who love to make claims about their strong christain faith, it is even more of mystery. and because george w. stands up today at the g-8 summit and pompously whines about america being a land "of the law", "we follow laws", it is even more of a complete insanity. fucking idiots.

and the moral authority they squander so carelessly will come back to haunt them. the bigger the hypocrisy of the liar, the weaker the foundation on which he stands, the more he has to use violence and deception to get anything from others, and therefore the less friends he will have on earth.