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Probe shows long-term GI abuse

Reports show that one of the Iraqi inmates was sodomised with a chemical light and perhaps a broomstick.
New York - The US military knew troops had abused Iraqi prisoners for months before graphic, humiliating photographs surfaced last week, a journalist who read a US army report said on Sunday.

"There were three investigations, each by a major general of the army," Seymour Hersh told CNN's Late Edition.

"Clearly somebody at a higher level understood there were generic problems."

Hersh published his article in The New Yorker, based on an army investigation by Major General Antonio Taguba, which was not intended for public release.

"Specifically, Taguba found that between October and December of 2003 there were numerous instances of 'sadistic, blatant and wanton criminal abuses' at Abu Ghraib," he said. Abu Ghraib is a US-run prison in Baghdad.

Hersh said the abuses went far beyond those portrayed in the widely broadcast photographs of sexual abuse, nudity and humiliation that have angered the Arab world. They were first shown on CBS television's 60 Minutes II.

The army investigation resulted in discipline and courts-martial for the troops involved.

However, the 53-page report also made it clear that the troops would not have attempted to break down prisoners in this way, Hersh said, unless higher-ups or intelligence agents wanted them to soften the prisoners up for later interrogation, or, euphemistically, to "set the conditions" for the session.

Taguba himself wrote: "I find that personnel assigned to the 372nd (Military Police) Company, 800th MP Brigade were directed to change facility procedures to set the conditions for (Military Intelligence) interrogations.

Army intelligence officers, CIA agents and private contractors "actively requested that MP guards set physical and mental conditions for favourable interrogation of witnesses", Taguba wrote.

Actually biting

Hersh quoted a list of abuses directly from the investigation: "Breaking chemical lights and pouring the phosphoric liquid on detainees; pouring cold water on naked detainees; beating detainees with a broom handle and a chair; threatening male detainees with rape; allowing a military police guard to stitch the wound of a detainee who was injured after being slammed against the wall in his cell; sodomising a detainee with a chemical light and perhaps a broomstick; and using military working dogs to frighten and intimidate detainees with threats of attack and, in one instance, actually biting a detainee."

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U.S. Credibility 03.May.2004 01:16

Michael Ramirez

Didn't Bush say this was a war of Good vs Evil?

'Cause I'm ashamed to be an American... 03.May.2004 01:25


Who could have guessed it was really this bad? From my country which is obsessed with putting things into their enemys butt. Obsessed with putting missiles into Osamas butt. Obsessed with putting things into Saddams butt. Obsessed with putting things into even George Bush's butt. Obsessed with Bush putting his thing into Saddams and Osamas butt and obsessed Osama and Saddam putting their things into each others butt.

Who would have guessed?

"Broader pattern of command failures than initially acknowledged" 03.May.2004 01:27

James Risen

...The investigation, led by Army Maj. Gen. Antonio M. Taguba, found they were never properly trained or supervised. It found that, in effect, the military police were told to soften up the prisoners so they would talk more freely in interrogations conducted by intelligence officials.

The report and other documents reveal that Army investigators found a virtual collapse of the command structure in the prison, allowing midlevel military intelligence officers to skirt the normal chain of command to issue questionable orders to enlisted personnel from the reserve military police unit handling guard duties there.

Gary Myers, a lawyer for Staff Sgt. Ivan Frederick, one of the enlisted men charged in the case, requested this weekend that the Army open a court of inquiry into the abuse at Abu Ghraib, a move that would broaden the investigation beyond the six enlisted personnel to look at the broader command failures...

Hehehe... 03.May.2004 03:00

Tony Blair's dog

"The investigation, led by Army Maj. Gen. Antonio M. Taguba, found they were never properly trained or supervised."

The Iraqis 03.May.2004 06:17


Now see to it that the next time someone talk about Iraqis that are agiant the occupations as Terrorist, freedom haters tell them "Don't you think that it could be as simple as that we the US have behaved badly in Iraq and that is why they want us out?"

Remember the Iraqis that are going thru this, their families, friends and relatives they have the right to ask us to get out of Iraq. We are in no way respecting them at all. How many times haven't we read US - militaly saing "only a dead iraqi is a good iraqi" and nobody realy cares "he is upset, he is tired, he realy did not mean it" weak up folks this is not away to treat Iraqis if you want any respect in this world.

Remember the Iraqis couse they sure now have been given by the US more reasons to question the intensions of the US in Iraq.

You pro war americans go an beg for forgiveness. And the rest of you Americans that are agaist this war I hope you will find a way to save your country from who is in charge.


C'mon! You hypocrites REALLY didn't KNOW this was going on???! 03.May.2004 06:30


For God's sake! These soldiers are rejects from Deliverance and have been made strong and dumb just so that they could go abroad and do the same to the rest of the world. Where do you come off claiming ignorance and being shocked? These soldiers are ALL representatives of America - THIS IS WHAT OUR COUNTRY HAS BECOME!! Look at yourselves in these pictures because we have allowed or encouraged this to happen and there is much worse yet to come. This is America!! This is the Christian right!! These are the Republicrats!! These are the CEOs and the globalization elite!! These are our patriotic Americans!! All creatures from hell.