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UPDATE:USA dismisses Freedom of Information Act Suit over AIDS creation-[WEBCAST sunday]

GRAVES will comment LIVE this Easter Sunday at Noon EST during a LIVE web broadcast at  http://www.NewBlackCity.com The toll free number to call the show is 1 877 969-2004.
It's all there...the US military running covert eugenics-biased biowarfare...
It's all there...the US military running covert eugenics-biased biowarfare...
U.S. DISMISSES GRAVES' FOIA AIDS LAWSUIT APRIL 4, 2004!!!

"The Ninth Circuit Federal Court has dismissed our Freedom of Information Lawsuit (FOIA). The case has been closed and is not now available to the public," Graves said. "I have been completely shut down for the moment. To continue this process, I am going to need help!!"

The case number is 03-56812 (Graves v. U.S. A.).

GRAVES will comment LIVE this Easter Sunday at Noon EST during a LIVE web broadcast at www.NewBlackCity.com The toll free number to call the show is 1 877 969-2004.

FULL NEWS RELEASE TO FOLLOW!!!!


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[Boyd Graves only income is his military penson, very small.]
WE MUST RAISE $3,500 by May 1st 2004 to maintain.

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 http://www.boydgraves.com/donate

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MUCH MORE NEWS TO COME. . .


Below are news stories you may have missed . .


CRIMINAL ACTIVITY IN THE AIDS ORIGIN FOIA LAWSUIT

 http://www.boydgraves.com/news/032504.html


THE DEVELOPMENT OF HIV/AIDS:U.S. POLICY FOR 34 YEARS

 http://www.boydgraves.com/news/031504.html


The Fifth Year of the 1971 AIDS Development FLOWCHART Discovery

 http://www.boydgraves.com/news/flowchartanniv5.html


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B.S. 10.Apr.2004 22:17

GRINGO STARS

Boyd Graves is completely wrong. There is no such proven thing as an "immune-suppressing virus" like Graves claims.

There is NO proven link between HIV and AIDS.

There is NO evidence that AIDS is a sexually transmitted condition.

The same risk groups that suffer from AIDS-indicating conditions now have ALWAYS suffered from these same conditions.

A BRIEF PRESENTATION;
 http://aidsmyth.addr.com/mythtv/aidsmythbuster_on.htm

MYTHS vs. TRUTH;
 http://www.healsd.org/lies.htm

MORE INFORMATION;
 http://www.aliveandwell.org/
 http://www.actupsf.com/
 http://www.healtoronto.com/
 http://www.whatisaids.com/
 http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/index.htm
 http://www.rethinking.org/aids/NYRethinkingAIDSSociety.html
 http://www.robertogiraldo.com/eng/papers/TheCausesOfAids.html
 http://www.duesberg.com/
 http://www.thedurbandeclaration.org/
 http://heal_portland.tripod.com/

Disagreement about HIV's role in causing AIDS has been curiously absent from public and scientific debate, even though many of the 700 M.D.'s and/or Ph.D.'s of The Group for the Scientific Reappraisal of the HIV/AIDS Hypothesis have published their reasons for their concern (Philpott 1999). Members of this group include current and former professors of molecular and cell biology at Harvard, Berkeley, and other prestigious universities, as well as two Nobel Prize winners in chemistry, Walter Gilbert and Kary Mullis. HIV is a "retrovirus", and Peter Duesberg, one of the earliest people to call for reappraisal, has been called the "father of retrovirology". David Rasnick, the president of the Society for the Scientific Reappraisal of AIDS, holds nine patents on protease inhibitors, the drugs claimed to have saved many people from the brink of death. And yet, Dr. Rasnick adamantly maintains that these drugs are contributing to, or directly causing their deaths rather than helping them. For a topic which has become so entrenched in the national and world-wide mindset, such a large number of dissenting voices among people with the highest credentials in their fields is unusual, to say the least, and yet researchers, health professionals, and the public have not been informed about the magnitude of the debate, or about the reasons why these dissenting scientists are questioning conventional dogma.
HIV is claimed to cause a wide variety of symptoms in people who test positive on the HIV antibody test, but even for the most common symptoms, like immunosuppression and low CD4 T-cells, there is continued difficulty and disagreement in understanding the mechanism involved (Balter 1997), a fact that has led the original discoverer of HIV, Luc Montagnier, to state that he does not think HIV can cause AIDS without other unidentified cofactors (Balter, 1991).

HIV rates in the general population do not reflect an infectious epidemic, and have been declining since 1984 according to all available sources.

Evidence of infection by unprotected sex or blood to blood contact is weak or non-existent.

ELISA, Western Blot, and PCR are all prone to false positives, and are used amongst themselves incestuously to prove each other's validity.

There are a large number of HIV-free cases of AIDS, so many that a new diagnosis was invented to describe them, "Idiopathic CD4 Lymphocytopenia". The very definiton of AIDS includes a positive HIV antibody test, creating an artificially correlation between HIV and AIDS.

The major risk groups for AIDS suffered from atypically high rates of "AIDS-defining Conditions" for decades before the HIV hypothesis was introduced.

Researchers only find markers of actual HIV in 20% to 80% of people who test positive on the HIV antibody tests, and PCR reports "viral loads" in about one in thirty "HIV-negative" people.

Of even greater concern than the existence of these problems is the fact that no one in the conventional medical and scientific establishment seems to be asking questions about them. When researchers like Etienne de Harven and the Perth group do begin asking questions, they often find themselves labelled as "dissidents", as if they were political refugees, which succeeds only in stifling the opportunity for open scientific discourse. The fact that the media also fails to report on such studies suggests that it is not only a problem within the scientific community, however, but more likely something that is occurring on a societal level. In many ways, "science" has replaced religion as the mediator between God/Nature and humanity, and people prefer to believe in the infallibility of science, much as Christians believed in the infallibility of the Pope. Belief in such infallibility is what led to people like Galileo being excommunicated and imprisoned for reporting that he had seen moons around Jupiter in his telescope, and it appears that a modern version of excommunication is happening today.

agreed on the HIV issue though still lots of US bioweapons work 11.Apr.2004 16:18

more

Area 51 Microbiologist
Dr. Dan Burisch Ready To Talk
4-9-4


Dr. Dan Burisch, who is in lock-down, working with the Lotus project, seeks immunity to stand before a Congressional hearing or other appropriate public body, to disclose his first-hand knowledge, with proof, of U.S. government involvement in designer viruses and other black-ops.

LAS VEGAS, NV USA (PRWEB) April 8 2004 -- Dr. Dan Burisch has first-hand knowledge of the U.S. government's involvement in funding the creation of designer viruses for use in biowarfare and other applications. He is also intimately privy to other covert operations that violate normal standards of human ethics.

Because such involvement could implicate him for war crimes charges, he requests full immunity before making such disclosure. The terms of his agreement prohibit that he should specifically request such an appointment for disclosure. He has stated that if subpoenaed he will disclose what he knows, answering specific questions directly.

By splicing together components of various organisms, microbiologists today are able to create new living organism with specific outcomes, both in terms of target as well as resulting disease.

Burisch stated that microbiologists have a way of encoding their "signature" into the designer DNA they create, whether in short sequences or those long enough to encode an entire virus.

As a possible scenario, for example, the signature could be comprised of a short segment of base-pairs that bear the microbiologists mark in such a way that other microbiologists can see the signature and readily identify it.

Because Burisch does not yet have such disclosure immunity granted, he spoke hypothetically, saying that if there were a microbiologist involved in such activities, that the microbiologist could place his signature on the resulting organism, unbeknownst to those authorizing the project.

That signature could then be called forth from all progeny organisms as evidence of the laboratory origin of the organism, and of the exact microbiologist who created the organism.

This would then provide unambiguous proof more telling than finger prints in a crime scene. In this case, such finger prints are placed there intentionally with the intent of providing retrospective proof of the deed.

Burisch would also like to press for disclosure of other matters of which he has first-hand knowledge and evidence.

The revealing of his signature will also prove that Burisch is indeed a Ph.D. level microbiologist -- a title that was erased when he was inducted into his present covert operation. That erasure was so complete that one could hardly find evidence that Danny B Catselas Burisch ever lived if it were not for the Internet and private sharing of documents of evidence. Catselas was his father's last name. He had his name legally changed to Burisch with a recent marriage to a woman by that last name, who is also a principal in the covert operations.

He is presently working on the Lotus project at Area 51 north of Las Vegas, in a secret extra-budget operation under the umbrella direction of a non-elected shadow international governing body that has covert ties to the U.S. government and with extra-terrestrials.

The Lotus project involves studies of what is called a "Ganesh particle" which is capable of repairing damages cells. The Ganesh particle itself, which gives off light, has characteristics of being a living intelligence.

Burisch has witnessed an extra-terrestrial being first-hand at Area 51. That exposure included touch, probing, measuring body function, communication via hand signals.

Burisch is witness to human subjects being held against their will for experimentation per covert treaties between the U.S. government and extra-terrestrial governing bodies. The treaty, called Tau-IX, allows for abduction, removal of blood and reproductive samples and tissue; and does not control whether humans are maimed, tortured or that they might expire.

Burisch does not believe that these activities should be held back from the knowledge of the American and International lay community. His desire for disclosure is shared by others of his colleagues.

There are even those among the directorate who are helping to leak information from inside the covert operations out into public domain.

A primary vector for this disclosure has been taking place on an unmoderated forum at godlikeproducions.com under a thread about Dan Burisch that is now in its fifth volume, with over 10,000 posts in all. There, those on the "inside" of the covert operations ,who are defecting against their obligations to non-disclosure, post information to the forum where it is openly analyzed for authenticity and catalogued.

This forum thread commenced approximately six months ago and recently had been losing momentum due to lack of concrete information. Even with the occasional patch in to Burisch with a web cam, there was no way to prove that the web cam footage was not taken at a prior date.

Those on the forum were not even sure Burisch was actually alive, and that it was him that they were conversing with on these privileged disclosures on rare occasion.

As someone in the know has watched this process, he recently decided to actually let two people from the "outside" have an in-person meeting with Dr. Dan Burisch. Per a request made by a major forum participant, Harry Dschaak (forum name: harrdrawk), an invitation was extended for him and write-in U.S. Presidential Candidate, Sterling D. Allan (forum name: wallrace), to have an in-person meeting with Burisch.

A first attempt was made on April 3. The meeting was to have taken place in front of the UNLV campus Leid library at 10:00 am. The two outsiders were coming in under the cover of being inside directorate. This cover was exposed prior to the meeting when it was determined by security that there were no inside directorate coming into Vegas on the day appointed.

A second and successful attempt took place two days later at another location, where a window of one hour stretched into three as the two outsiders identified themselves with a pass code that only could have been given them from someone trusted on the inside.

On the following day, Allan reported on that encounter with a post to the GLP forum. That was then followed up the next day, April 7, with a leaked message in which Dan Burisch responded point-by-point to Allan's report, as requested by an individual named "J1 (Majesty/Directorate PD/SF, Washington, D.C.)".

The leaking of that document constitutes perhaps the most unambiguous source of information regarding this covert operation that has yet been obtained.

Within minutes of that post being made, the forum went down. But those who intimately watch the forum immediately got on the phone with each other and made a copy of the relevant page and circulated it among their mailing lists.

When asked if this is the biggest development since the forum thread commenced six months ago, Dschaak, Allan's running mate, replied, "No, this is the biggest thing to happen since the JFK assassination. We are on the verge of alien disclosure -- something we have been seeking for decades."

Dschaak is in process of assembling a brief list of questions that should be posed to Burisch in a hearing. Over the past six months, GLP has accumulated a list of key questions to ask based on the intelligence they have been gathering.


The above press release is found at
 http://www.greaterthings.com/News/ET/DanBurisch/PR040407/


REFERENCES:

 http://www.greaterthings.com/News/ET/DanBurisch/April07_04_Statement/
Dan Burisch' leaked reply to Sterling Allan's report.

 http://www.greaterthings.com/News/ET/DanBurisch/April04/firstdraft.htm
Allan's report of the April 5 meeting with Burisch

 http://www.angelfire.com/pe/peter7/Links/DanBmeeting.html
Back-up copy of Allan's report of his meeting with Dan Burisch

 http://www.angelfire.com/pe/peter7/Links/meetingResponse.html
Back-up copy of Burisch' reply to Allan.

 http://www.godlikeproducions.com
See: Forum > Thread about "Burisch"

 http://www.angelfire.com/pe/peter7/project_otus/DanBurischForumLibrary.html Peter7's library of GLP posts and key documents.

 http://www.allan2004.com/press_releases/040124_extraterrestrial_frontier/
Allan/Dschaak Campaign site.


GENERAL INFORMATION ABOUT DAN BURISCH AND RELATED

 http://www.skywatch-research.org/
Skywatch International, hosted by Bill Hamilton, who interviewed Burisch in a room at UNLV on Sept. 18, 2002. He also visited with Burisch in March of 2004, but was under non-disclosure in that communication, as part of the project.

 http://stealthskater.com/


CONTACT:

Harry Dschaak
phone: 208-548-2448; cell: 208-431-9346
email:  harry.dschaak@allan2004.com

caveat 11.Apr.2004 19:22

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G.S.: "There is no such proven thing as an "immune-suppressing virus" like Graves claims."

Hmm. In the hopeful interests of sharing information instead of creating an argument, then why does he have FOIA and other military documentation saying that yes, they have been interested in such things? In attempting to get more information, then are attempting to shut his search down.

Interest does not equal existence 11.Apr.2004 21:18

GRINGO STARS

I have no doubt that the govt would love to have such a virus. But the fact is that existence of such a virus is not at all proven. And in fact, the AIDS situation (far from "epidemic") has none of the hallmarks of a transmittable virus.

Who knows? Perhaps they are afraid of research of theirs that proves that the existence fo such a virus would be impossible. That is just a wild guess. Who knows how the genocidal-types' minds work?

immune suppression is exactly what you are talking about 11.Apr.2004 23:19

hmm

"The flowchart is the absolute missing link in proving the existence of a coordinated research program to develop a cancer virus that depletes the immune system. New diseases do not create old illnesses."

 http://www.boydgraves.com/timeline/

"The program's own "research logic" flowchart www.boydgraves.com/flowchart/ proves to an absolute certainty, "the United States placed into "clinical trials" (see Phase V), 'a virus that depletes the immune system so as to allow for the onset of infectious disease.' See page 129, Part VI funding, U.S. House Resolution 15090 (category: 'SYNTHETIC BIOLOGICAL AGENT'), 6/9/69."

 http://boydgraves.com/letters/davis012603.html


'a virus that depletes the immune system so as to allow for the onset of infectious disease.'

This is exactly what you are talking about? "AIDS(TM)" as a repackaging of other diseases, can indeed have an onset from some external virus that depletes the immune system.

I am quite agreed on the point about HIV as a media blitz only, a "non-issue" entirely, since it has yet to ever be found! However, please reconsider some of his information, plus, why on earth would Ashcroft attempt to stop this--unless they have something to hide along the lines he is talking about? Plus there are all these progress reports from the 1970s, etc.

No, THIS is what I'm talking about... 11.Apr.2004 23:31

GRINGO STARS

AIDS is a disease of toxicity, not a disease of the immune system.
The causes of AIDS are already explicable:

 http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/pddrchemical.pdf

thanks for the link 12.Apr.2004 00:40

hmm

One question:

If you are going to both use the ideas of "AIDS(TM) as a category" as well as "AIDS as a
disease of toxicity" [the latter point is suddently introduced--different than what you claimed above], please do keep in mind you are arguing two points. Plus, hopefully, you can see your first point is large enough to include much of Boyd's work (even if you, I and others would disagree on his use of the term HIV, he does have documented evidence about clinical trials using such immune supressing viruses.) If your first point is about AIDS as a category, a political device, it can include lots of different things in the category. Many many things. Many that you can learn more about. Certainly you were not born with all this information you have already gathered in your head. You had to learn something about it. That is all I am saying, continue learning about it.

One comment:

Plus, I noticed you failed to address my point (Boyd's documented point) that indicates that the US government has indeed conducted clinical trials using immune suppression viruses.


Thanks for the link about AIDS as political label of toxicity/malnutrition disease. I knew of this argument, though it's nice to see a documented source to pass around. June 2003 as well!

I am arguing two points, yes. 12.Apr.2004 09:05

GRINGO STARS

disease (noun) - a condition of the living animal or plant body or of one of its parts that impairs normal functioning.

My two points are NOT mutually exclusive. They are both true. Popular misuse of the word "disease" often implies some kind of transmittable condition, which so-called AIDS is NOT.

My problem with Boyd Graves is that he treats AIDS as a virus. Notice in his timeline where he says:

"In March, the Special Virus [program] began production of the AIDS virus, by June 1977, the program will have produced 15,000 gallons of AIDS."

AS IF AIDS can be in liquid form, as if AIDS is a virus. He repeatedly mentions HIV/AIDS as if HIV has anything to do with AIDS. These are my problems with Graves' work: he believes that HIV=AIDS, which has never been proven.

Clinical trials using so-called immunosuppressive viruses proves nothing whatsoever.

AIDS is not a virus. It does not act like it is transmittable at all.

 http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/mabcortico.htm
 http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/pddrdrugaids5.htm
 http://www.virusmyth.net/aids/data/tbpoppers.htm

GS, the intelligent blockhead 14.Apr.2004 20:52

me

GS: "Clinical trials using so-called immunosuppressive viruses proves nothing whatsoever."

Yes, it does prove one thing. You treat every conversation exactly like George W. Bush: as a personal affront if you are challenged.

Proves a second thing. You rely on a short memory, or endlessly updating the criteria for argument--an artful dodging. Originally you said you "have no doubt that the govt would love to have such a virus. But the fact is that existence of such a virus is not at all proven."

then of course, faced with some proof you ignore, reframe, and dodge:

"Clinical trials using so-called immunosuppressive viruses proves nothing whatsoever." [Yes, it proves that your original argument had turned to dust.]





As I have said before, I'm far from out to get you! If science was conducted like GS, then guillotines would be common lab equipment for removing pesky questions...