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PENTAGON V NEOCONS: We are near a 'pro-USA' military coup against Bush. Be Prepared.

PENTAGON V. NEOCONS: WE ARE NEAR A MILITARY COUP AGAINST BUSH. BE PREPARED.

Yes, I know that sounds ironic, though this represents just how desperate the US military is to get rid of its Neo-con corporate parasites that are destroying the country and attempting to start WWIII. --- Colonel Donn de Grand Pre (ret), in his book, "The Viper's Venom" concludes that the 911 terror attacks were done by remote control technology. Grand Pre was the top US arms dealer to the Middle East under the Ford and Carter administrations. What he saw caused him to leave government service and begin investigating the forces he saw warping our nation's destiny. --- de Grand Pre, a retired Army colonel, is the author of A Window on America: Confessions of an Arms Peddler, and his latest, Barbarians Inside the Gates. --- the wars we have engaged in for whatever reasons since the end of World War II have not only been unconstitutionally waged, but have caused a net loss in political power. Each war was waged to divert our attention away from the true enemy within, and toward a contrived enemy outside our borders. --- "In his various interviews and publications, deGrand-Pre has called 9/11 "an administrative coup d'etat." He suggests the only way the neocons can be stopped is by a military coup d'etat, and estimates 70 percent of key military personnel are in favor of such a step. But the possibility is complicated, he says, by the large number of key military players who have gone over to the Council on Foreign Relations team. Some of these players, including three- and four-star generals, however, may side with the military while pretending to be on the side of the neocons. de Grand-Pre insists he is in personal contact with members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff."
9-11: Attack on select wedge of Pentagon opposition by Bush cronies...
9-11: Attack on select wedge of Pentagon opposition by Bush cronies...
...while Bush grooms himself as world dictator in administrative coup d'etat.
...while Bush grooms himself as world dictator in administrative coup d'etat.
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In his various interviews and publications, de Grand-Pre has called 9/11 "an administrative coup d'etat." He suggests the only way the neocons can be stopped is by a military coup d'etat, and estimates 70 percent of key military personnel are in favor of such a step. But the possibility is complicated, he says, by the large number of key military players who have gone over to the Council on Foreign Relations team. Some of these players, including three- and four-star generals, however, may side with the military while pretending to be on the side of the neocons. de Grand-Pre insists he is in personal contact with members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

[In his February 24, 2004, live coast-to-coast interview with Ex-Admirial (Ret.) Donn de Grand Pre, Alex] Jones triggered a response from de Grand Pre when he mentioned a 2002 article in the Washington Times that said morale at the Pentagon had never been lower.

De Grand-Pre responded: "I can verify that from Col. Dick Schultz, who is a friend of mine in the Joint Chiefs. Morale was not only low but he said some of the troops are ready to mutiny. If it wasn't for the fact that the government, the civilian hierarchy, has control over retirements, they would probably be blood in the streets by now."

When other news outlets began checking on this story angle, Jones noted that Pentagon officials were apoplectic. "... they panicked and flew the [potential pro-USA military coup] officers on jets to luxury vacations and had these focus groups. It [the pentagon staffers] even talked about a possible mutiny. People were just totally distraught. What would make them become distraught overnight in the Pentagon?"

"It wasn't an overnight thing. You see, as I outline in book 1, and I carry that on in book 2, as well as book 3, we were on the verge of a military coup d'etat. And this was long in the planning and even after the [pre-emptive US/NATO attack of] 78 days of bombing Kosovo [when Wesley Clark nearly started WWIII by ordering an attack on the 'allies' of the Russians--the British officer refused to carry out Clark's orders.], it became critical. And we were close to a coup d'etat at that time. In my survey of the reports and the pilots who worked with that, a coup was a possibility. [NOTE THE APPENDIX BELOW HAS MORE ON THIS: HOW BY THE LATE 1990S AN OPEN SURFACE FISSURE AND STRUGGLE FOR POWER HAS BEEN OCCURRING BETWEEN THE LOYAL PENTAGON BRASS AND THE DISLOYAL NEOCONS OF BUSH/CLINTON--WHERE BOTH SIDES ARE WILLING TO USE EXTRA-JUDICIAL TERROR AGAINST EACH OTHER TO ACCOMPLISH THEIR GOALS. IT DISCUSSES THE 1995 'PLANE CRASH' THAT KILLED ALL LOYAL FLAG OFFICERS ON THEIR VERY WAY TO FORCE CLINTON TO PUBLIC TRIAL FOR TREASON, AS FLAG OFFICERS HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO SUCH AN ARREST AS A GROUP. FAILED TO HEAR ABOUT THAT EVENT? WELL, THE INTERNET WAS JUST GETTING STARTED AROUND THEN, THOUGH YOU SHOULD HAVE. YOUR VERY COUNTRY'S AT STAKE. THIS IS A PRIMER FOR WHAT IS GOING ON.]

WOLFOWITZ: Most likely it was U.S. forces that tried to kill Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz when he visited Iraq recently.

CHENEY: Military tribunals will try current U.S. public officials when the military decides to take over, de Grand Pre predicts. "And Cheney, I reiterate, is toast." de Grand-Pre named Cheney as the one man who knows the most about 9/11.

RUMSFELD: de Grand-Pre concurred, and added: "And as we delved into that, we found that the culprits, including Rumsfeld, were part of a neocon group that had been planning this thing for literally years prior to September 11th."

"In fact, a coup d'etat was pulled on the morning of September 11th. Only it was an administrative or what we call a cold coup d'etat."

de Grand Pre's books are not yet available on the web [as of February 2004], but more information can be obtained from de Grand-Pre Publishing Ltd. at 540-547-2996.

. . .

DGP: And then, you mentioned the interview in Portugal. I didn't actually go to Portugal but on 11 September [2001], actually it was 12 September, I wrote to my friend Gen. Hugh Shelton, who was Chairman of the Joint Chiefs at that time. He was transited out. And he was replaced by Gen. Richard, what the heck was the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs' The name escapes me. He was a four-star Air Force General. And, Myers, I guess, was the name. [It is Myers.] At any rate, I called together from 16 to 19 September [2001], in the Pentagon area, not in the Pentagon, a group of military, civilian and general aviation pilots. And for three days, we kicked around what actually happened on 11 September. And then the investigator journalists covered that and it was reported in the Portugal news and very accurate. I have the report in front of me and it is quite involved but if you have some questions, fire away, Alex.

. . .

AJ: Now, Colonel, going over your report and the, I guess the committee meeting that you guys had to play out what you believe really happened. Now as more evidence has come out, it shows that that's clearly exactly what happened. Now, they are using 911 to turn this country into a total police state. I mean how do you see us turning this around?

DGP: The turning around is not going to be that easy. I look at the final paragraph of this report. And here is what the final paragraph said. "So far the mainstream American news media has failed to publish or broadcast any details regarding the independent inquiry. Similarly, the White House whilst having received a copy of the report has remained silent on its findings." While we know that a copy, first of all I have to back up a little. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs had 500 copies of this 24-page report made and sent out, including, to the White House. And I have to say it was including Pres. Bush. So they got a copy of the report.

AJ: That was Myers at the time.

DGP: That is correct.

AJ: And so, he [Myers] sent out 500 copies, that would mean that he believed it.

DGP: I'm quite sure that he believed in it. I think that he still believes in it. You can understand the difficulties. The civilian administration, of course, won't recognize it as such.

AJ: How did you find out that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs sent this out?

DGP: I got a telephone call and I think the date was 5 March 2002, stating that at the time, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs had no comment but he used the Marine Corp lingo 'Semper Fi', Semper Fidelity 'always faithful'. And that triggered in me further memos and I traded memos with Gen. Peter Pace and Dick Myers and they continued on until November [2003] of last year.

AJ: Well that had to be upsetting to Mr. Rumsfeld to have all these, hundreds of your reports flying around the Pentagon.

DGP: (laughs) Yeah, you see there's a definite cleavage between the military of the Pentagon and the civilian [corporate] hierarchy - and never the twain shall meet.

. . .

AJ: Absolutely and we'll tell people how they can get those books. I mean I want to carry them but Colonel, your experience in the military, your experience in the intelligence agencies, there's also the danger though obviously in any military movement of that nature that it could be self-serving as well, and set up its own form of wickedness.

DGP: Yes, that's plausible, that's correct. I don't believe it will happen in exactly that fashion. And the thing about a coup d'etat and a counter-coup d'etat is you never know when it's going to happen. You never know exactly who is involved. This is a plus for any planners of a counter-coup d'etat.

AJ: Well, this is certainly dividing the wheat from the chaff. How many people, and we'll get the answer to the question when we get back from your feelers in the Pentagon, how many people in there now know that an element of the global system--a crime syndicate--carried out 911, I mean--only an idiot would know, would think they didn't--but the point is, this has got to be accelerating the division. And I want to get your take on the pulse of that and we'll take calls when we get back. Stay with us.

. . .

DGP: Well, I'm in personal contact at least on a weekly basis with the Joint Chiefs and other select people. My computation is that 70% of us are with us. That's the higher ranking military, field grade officers, etc. and even the first three grades of the enlisted ' 70% are with us.

AJ: Well, they've had questionnaires, you know, a decade ago, [i.e, 1994] will you fire on U.S. citizens under UN control if the president says so ' and, you know, 74% say no to that. Okay, then how are the globalists getting away with this? [Someone else has been stationed in the USA to do this, then. On this point see the companion article to this post: Coming American Holocaust (police state murder infrastructure in place)BOX CAR DEATH CAMPS. UN troops have been massively stationed in the contintental USA shortly after that US military survey showing domestic troops unwillingness: a 1993 US military survey showed 70%+ unwillingness of U.S. military and U.S. reserves to fire on Americans and to round them up in citizen conentration camps. So others are brought in shortly thereafter.  http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/02/281672.shtml ]

. . .

AJ: So basically, they wrap their un-American agenda in a flag and the general public buys it so the military has to sit there and take it.

DGP: They do, yes, and I think those days are coming to an end. The military ain't going to take it any longer.

. . .

Wayne: The second part of my question is after 911, our Congressman from down here, Randy Forbes [R-VA] spoke at a Veterans' Foreign Wars Hall about how close he was to the Bush and Rumsfeld cabal and how before 911 he had a briefing at the White House where they were told they were expecting something big from Afghanistan. And he also in his discussion, there were about 200 or 300 people there, it is recorded on film. And my notes are very clear on this. He also said they were following other aircraft out over the ocean. Do you have any knowledge of that? That is something that I have not heard discussed at all about 911.

. . .

Wayne: That is it. Why aren't these people coming forward now?

AJ: Let me say this. We know because, folks I don't want to give too much detail out. I've talked to lawyers. I've talked to them. We know hundreds of high level officers have leaked everything we are now learning about today. So, I think that this caught a lot of people unawares. Colonel, do you want to comment on that?


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1.


No hijackers for 9/11

Repentant arms dealer reveals disgruntled
U.S. military on the verge of revolt


By John Kaminski
 skylax@comcast.net




Back in May 2003, a journalist in Portugal reported on a sensational, marathon meeting of a group of U.S. pilots that issued a report concluding that the story told by the U.S. government about what happened on Sept. 11, 2001 was improbable and unlikely.

Except for several notices on the Internet, that story was basically never reported in the U.S., and largely debunked when the reporter flubbed the name of the organizer, creating disbelief in the minds of many readers.

The record was corrected in stunning fashion Feb. 25 on Alex Jones' Prison Planet radio program when former Pentagon arms salesman Donn de Grand-Pre, author of three books that allege 9/11 was an inside job, set the record straight, because he was the man who organized that conference. That 72-hour non-stop symposium by a group of military and civilian pilots concluded the flight crews of the four passenger airliners involved in the 9/11 tragedy had no control over their aircraft.

de Grand Pre, a retired Army colonel, is the author of A Window on America: Confessions of an Arms Peddler, and his latest, Barbarians Inside the Gates. His thesis in the third book is that the wars we have engaged in for whatever reasons since the end of World War II have not only been unconstitutionally waged, but have caused a net loss in political power. Each war was waged to divert our attention away from the true enemy within, and toward a contrived enemy outside our borders.

de Grand-Pre explained that his third book actually has three parts: "OK, I've got three books out under the title, Barbarians Inside the Gates. Book 1 was 'The Serpent's Sting,' Book 2 is 'The Viper's Venom,' Book 3, which just came out is 'The Rattler's Revenge.'

And I'd like to quote from Book 2, which came out October of 2002. There is a very important paragraph there. It says,

"The trigger for the 911 activity was the imminent and unstoppable worldwide financial collapse which can only be prevented temporarily by a major war, perhaps to become known as World War III. To bring it off one more time, martial law will probably be imposed in the United States."

de Grand-Pre was the top U.S. arms dealer to the Middle East under the Ford and Carter administrations. What he saw caused him to leave government service and begin investigating the forces he saw warping our nation's future.

In the interview with Jones, de Grand-Pre made several stunning assertions, among them:

"There were no hijackers on the 9/11 killer jets. And he said the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (Richard Myers) agrees with him.

In response to a caller to Alex Jones' radio show, de Grand-Pre noted: "... the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs himself has agreed, there were no hijackers. There were no cell phone calls. Everybody aboard that aircraft, pilots and crew, were unconscious within 8 to 18 minutes after take-off. And you can take it from there. I've got it covered in books 2 and 3, what actually happened."

"These planes were being piloted by remote control, probably an AWACs aircraft taking over that airplane or airplanes or drones, unmanned drones. And flying them at 5 and 8 G-force that no pilot could withstand. So, in short, and if you read books 2 and 3, you will discover how and why this came about.

The 9/11 planes that took off full of passengers are [supposedly] now at the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean. "And I'm telling you that we are knowledgeably speculating," said de Grand-Pre in response to another caller. "Those aircraft carrying crew and passengers went over the Atlantic and that was all she wrote."

Talk of a military coup--to reverse what he calls the administrative coup d'etat that happened on 9/11--are rife within the corridors of the Pentagon.

In his various interviews and publications, de Grand Pre has called 9/11 "an administrative coup d'etat." He suggests the only way the neocons can be stopped is by a military coup d'etat, and estimates 70 percent of key military personnel are in favor of such a step. But the possibility is complicated, he says, by the large number of key military players who have gone over to the Council on Foreign Relations team. Some of these players, including three- and four-star generals, however, may side with the military while pretending to be on the side of the neocons. de Grand-Pre insists he is in personal contact with members of the Joint Chiefs of Staff.

The truly patriotic members of the military have had to sit there and take all these wild schemes by corporate-controlled politicians. de Grand-Pre˙s prediction? "I think those days are coming to an end. The military ain't going to take it any longer."

In the interview with Jones, de Grand-Pre also asserted:

"It is common knowledge at the Pentagon that Israel fired nuclear weapons at Iraq during the first Gulf War."

"A commercial aircraft did not hit the Pentagon. Most likely it was a cruise missile or a Global Hawk."

Flight 93, the jetliner that supposedly crashed in Pennsylvania after courageous passengers struggled with armed hijackers, was shot down by the North Dakota Air Guard. "I know the pilot who fired those two missiles to take down 93," de Grand-Pre insisted, adding that the order to shoot down the plane came from the Adjutant General of North Dakota. [This of course contradicts his previous statement that there were "no hijackers". Did this plane alone actually have hijackers? What is the story?]

Most likely it was U.S. forces that tried to kill Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz when he visited Iraq recently.

Military tribunals will try current U.S. public officials when the military decides to take over, de Grand-Pre predicts. "And Cheney, I reiterate, is toast." de Grand-Pre named Cheney as the one man who knows the most about 9/11.

In earlier interviews, de Grand-Pre has recounted that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, Gen. Richard Myers, had 500 copies of the 24-page report made and sent out, including, to the White House.

Assessing Myers' reaction, de Grand Pre said, "I'm quite sure that he believed in it. I think that he still believes in it. You can understand the difficulties. The civilian administration, of course, won't recognize it as such."

"There's a definite cleavage between the military of the Pentagon and the civilian [corporate] hierarchy--and never the twain shall meet."

Jones triggered a response from de Grand Pre when he mentioned a 2002 article in the Washington Times that said morale at the Pentagon had never been lower.

De Grand-Pre responded: "I can verify that from Col. Dick Schultz, who is a friend of mine in the Joint Chiefs. Morale was not only low but he said some of the troops are ready to mutiny. If it wasn't for the fact that the government, the civilian hierarchy, has control over retirements, they would probably be blood in the streets by now."

When other news outlets began checking on this story angle, Jones noted that Pentagon officials were apoplectic. "... they panicked and flew the officers on jets to luxury vacations and had these focus groups. It even talked about a possible mutiny. People were just totally distraught. What would make them become distraught overnight in the Pentagon?"

de Grand-Pre's answer was chilling, and revealed the possibility of a military coup d'etat has been simmering in the corridors of the Pentagon for some time.

"It wasn't an overnight thing. You see, as I outline in book 1, and I carry that on in book 2, as well as book 3, we were on the verge of a military coup d˙etat. And this was long in the planning and even after the 78 days of bombing Kosovo, it became critical. And we were close to a coup d'etat at that time. In my survey of the reports and the pilots who worked with that, a coup was a possibility.

"In fact, a coup d'etat was pulled on the morning of September 11th. Only it was an administrative or what we call a cold coup d'etat."

Jones' translation of that was "a counter-revolutionary junta."

de Grand-Pre concurred, and added: "And as we delved into that, we found that the culprits, including Rumsfeld, were part of a neocon group that had been planning this thing for literally years prior to September 11th."

In a previous interview that appeared on Michael Rivero's What Really Happened website, de Grand-Pre had already outlined his conclusions about 9-11.

"The 9-11 activity and horrific destruction of US property and lives was intentionally meant to trigger a psychological and patriotic reaction on the part of the US citizens, which is paving the way for 'combined UN activity' (using the fig leaf of NATO) for striking key targets in both the Middle East/ South Asia and the Balkans. The goal continues to be ultimate destruction of all national sovereignty and establishment of a global government. "

"The trigger for the 9-11 activity was the imminent and unstoppable world-wide financial collapse, which can only be prevented (temporarily) by a major war, perhaps to become known as WW 111. To bring it off (one more time), martial law will probably be
imposed in the United States."

de Grand-Pre had also sounded the same themes on Jackie Patru's Radio Sweet Liberty Webcast. [BELOW--LATER.]

"The so-called terrorist attack was in fact a superbly executed military operation against the United States, requiring the utmost professional military skill in command, communications and control. It was flawless in timing, in the choice of selected aircraft to be used as guided missiles, and in the coordinated delivery of those missiles to their pre-selected targets.

"As a tactical military exercise against two significant targets (world financial center and the citadel of world strategic military planning), the attack, from a psychological impact on the American public, equalled the Japanese "surprise" attack on Pearl Harbor 7 Dec 1941."

But the overriding question of that original group of pilots was: If we are at war, who is the enemy?

The group determined that the enemy is within the gates, that he has infiltrated into the highest policy-making positions at the federal level, and has absolute control, not only of the purse strings, but of the troop buildup and deployment of our military forces, including active, reserve and National Guard units.

Read [BELOW] the complete interview of Donn de Grand-Pre with Alex Jones at  link to www.warfolly.com .

de Grand-Pre's books are not yet available on the web, but more information can be obtained from de Grand-Pre Publishing Ltd. at 540-547-2996.


John Kaminski is the author of 'America's Autopsy Report,' a collection of his Internet essays published by Dandelion Books and featured on hundreds of websites around the world. For more information on how to get this book or to financially support his work, go to  link to www.johnkaminski.com .


2.

ALEX JONES INTERVIEW WITH DE GRAND-PRE: FEB. 25, 2004
 http://www.warfolly.com/blockbustergrandpre.htm


Blockbuster Grand-Pre Expose Of 9/11


"The trigger for the 911 activity was the imminent and unstoppable world-wide financial collapse which can only be prevented temporarily by a major war, perhaps to become known as World War III. To bring it off one more time, martial law will probably be imposed in the United States."


Interview of Col. Donn de Grand-Pre, U.S. Army (ret.)
Alex Jones Radio Show Feb. 25, 2004


AJ: He put on a symposium a few years ago that made headlines in major newspapers, in Portugal. We had one of those articles posted. And it says,

"Portugal-based investigative journalist has presented The News, with the version of the September 11th attacks that has to-date failed to attract the attention of the international press. The report, compiled by the independent inquiry into the September 11th World Trade Center attack, warns the American public that the government's official version of the events does not stand up to scrutiny."

And the man who put this on was Col. Donn de Grand [Pre], who's an American in a 72-hour non-stop symposium, deliberation by a group of military and civilian pilots under the chairmanship of Col. Donn de Grand [Pre]. After deliberating non-stop for 72-hours, has concluded the flight crews of the four passenger airliners involved in the September 11th tragedy had no control over their aircraft.

They get into how the globalists clearly carried it out. Now, this was two years ago, folks. A very cutting edge... Now the mainstream foreign press has addressed it. And most Europeans believe the U.S. government carried it out. A lot of Americans are now waking up. And talking to this trailblazer, cutting-edge pioneer, Col. Donn de Grand. It's an honor, sir, to have you on the show.

DGP: Hey, Alex, it's good to be aboard.

AJ: We are going to break here in about a minute and a-half. Give folks your bio. Tell us about Col. Donn de Grand [Pre].

DGP: Well, you've got part of the name correct. It's a hyphened word, the last name is Grand-Pre.

AJ: Yes, it's Col. Donn de Grand-Pre. That's how I addressed you this morning on the website.

DGP: That's alright.

AJ: The Portugal newspaper just says Col. Don de Grand, so....

DGP: That's okay. I've talked to these guys and they're good and they almost got it correct. I'll give you a quick bio. I entered the military in 1944 as an 18-year-old radio operator, morse code. And I was sent to Burma and China. I was attached to the detachment 101 which was OSS [pre-CIA networks, CIA only comes about in 1947] and I operated out of Burma. Then later on in Kunming, China, along with such notable people as a tall, skinny gal by the name of Julia Child. She has since put on a little weight and now she's doing television commercials, I guess. But I came back on active duty in 1950 as a commissioned officer, infantry airborne. And I got involved in the Korean fracas for a year-and-a-half until I was wounded. Then I was shipped home for two-years while I recuperated. And then I came back in.....

AJ: I'll tell you what, Col. Donn de Grand-Pre, let's stay right there. Let's recap when we get back and go through the rest of your bio. And then launch into this amazing symposium that you put on two-years ago and why you did it in Portugal. So stay with us. His first interview in over a year and we are honored to have Col. Donn de Grand-Pre.

BREAK

AJ: We are talking to Col. Donn de Grand-Pre and we have a news article about an incredible symposium he put on two years ago in Portugal, covered by a front-page newspaper and magazine ' Portugal's other major papers. And a lot of key info came out ' very cutting edge. And this is his first interview since he had a stroke a little over a year ago. It's great to have the Colonel on the show. So, he got into OSS right at the end of World War II, then went into Korea for a year and a half, was wounded, with the airborne. And that's where we left off, Colonel. Please continue with your bio.

DGP: Okay, Alex. Actually I went to work then for Sec. Def. Bob McNamara. [Born in San Francisco on June 9, 1916, Mr. McNamara graduated from the University of California in 1937. In 1939 he received an MBA degree from Harvard, and in 1940 he returned to Harvard to become an instructor and later Assistant Professor of Business Administration. In 1943 he was commissioned a captain in the air force and served in the UK, India, China, and the Pacific. He was awarded the Legion of Merit and promoted to lieutenant colonel before going on inactive duty in April 1946. Upon his discharge from the air force, McNamara joined the Ford Motor Company. He was elected as a director of the company in 1957, and president of the company in 1960. At the request of President-elect John F. Kennedy, McNamara agreed to serve as Secretary of Defense of the United States, a position he held from 1961 until 1968. He became president of the World Bank Group of Institutions in April of 1968, retiring in 1981.] He hired me as the chief arms negotiator for the Middle East. And we conducted our business there. We were known as the super salesmen in ISA, International Security Affairs. And over a ten-year period, we sold over a hundred billion dollars worth of military equipment to all comers. And then, you mentioned the interview in Portugal. I didn't actually go to Portugal but on 11 September, actually it was 12 September, I wrote to my friend Gen. Hugh Shelton, who was Chairman of the Joint Chiefs at that time. He was transited out. And he was replaced by Gen. Richard, what the heck was the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs' The name escapes me. He was a four-star Air Force General. And, Myers, I guess, was the name. [It is Myers.] At any rate, I called together from 16 to 19 September, in the Pentagon area, not in the Pentagon, a group of military, civilian and general aviation pilots. And for three days, we kicked around what actually happened on 11 September. And then the investigator journalists covered that and it was reported in the Portugal news and very accurate. I have the report in front of me and it is quite involved but if you have some questions, fire away, Alex.

AJ: Well, now you got these military officers together and that's the only place I ever saw it get reported on, was on here in Portugal ' it talked about the symposium. Of course, I read one of your fine books and we'll talk about that as well a little bit later on in the show and take some calls. But, what was laid out, what I saw in the four-page article, two years ago, has turned out to be very accurate. Tell us about the military officers, the pilots, the civilian pilots that were there and the conclusions that you came to in the 72-hour non-stop meeting. Please go over that for us.

DGP: Okay, Alex, the group of pilots and they will remain anonymous were a wonderful mix of commercial, military and civilian pilots. At any rate, after three days, the decisions were unanimous. And I wrote my 24-page report up and submitted it to the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs. And that report ultimately got into the hands of the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs on 23 January, 2002. The General was U.S. Marine Corp General by the name Peter Pace. And I got a telephone call, 5 March, from one of his horse holders, who is a Colonel Air Force type. He informed me that Gen. Peter Pace had gotten the twenty-four pages and that he and his Sec. had no comment at this time but he used the old Marine Corp lingo, "Semper Fi" or Always Faithful, and we let it go at that. Later on I continued my correspondence with the Vice Chairman and most recently, I got a letter 8 November, 2003 from Peter Pace, to me, carrying on not only about the investigation but about the three books that I have written since that time.

AJ: Now, Colonel, going over your report and the, I guess the committee meeting that you guys had to play out what you believe really happened. Now as more evidence has come out, it shows that that's clearly exactly what happened. Now, they are using 911 to turn this country into a total police state. I mean how do you see us turning this around?

DGP: The turning around is not going to be that easy. I look at the final paragraph of this report. And here is what the final paragraph said. "So far the mainstream American news media has failed to publish or broadcast any details regarding the independent inquiry. Similarly, the White House whilst having received a copy of the report has remained silent on its findings." While we know that a copy, first of all I have to back up a little. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs had 500 copies of this 24-page report made and sent out, including, to the White House. And I have to say it was including Pres. Bush. So they got a copy of the report.

AJ: That was Myers at the time.

DGP: That is correct.

AJ: And so, he sent out 500 copies, that would mean that he believed it.

DGP: I'm quite sure that he believed in it. I think that he still believes in it. You can understand the difficulties. The civilian administration, of course, won't recognize it as such.

AJ: How did you find out that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs sent this out?

DGP: I got a telephone call and I think the date was 5 March 2002, stating that at the time, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs had no comment but he used the Marine Corp lingo 'Semper Fi', Semper Fidelity 'always faithful'. And that triggered in me further memos and I traded memos with Gen. Peter Pace and Dick Myers and they continued on until November of last year.

AJ: Well that had to be upsetting to Mr. Rumsfeld to have all these, hundreds of your reports flying around the Pentagon.

DGP: (laughs) Yeah, you see there's a definite cleavage between the military of the Pentagon and the civilian hierarchy - and never the twain shall meet.

AJ: Well, there was an article right after 'that you talk about' in mid-2002 in the Washington Times saying the morale in the Pentagon had never been lower. And you would think it would be high right after 911 and getting together to fight the enemy. But it said that the officers didn't believe in the "mission" or in the intelligence.

DGP: That is correct. That came out of the Washington Times and I can verify that from Col. Dick Schultz, who is a friend of mine in the Joint Chiefs. Morale was not only low but he said some of the troops are ready to mutiny. If it wasn't for the fact that the government, the civilian hierarchy, has control over retirements, they would probably be blood in the streets by now.

AJ: There was also an article where they panicked in the Washington Times, it was also in the Washington Post, they panicked and flew the officers on jets to luxury vacations and had these focus groups. It even talked about a possible mutiny. People were just totally distraught. What would make them become distraught overnight in the Pentagon?

DGP: It wasn't an overnight thing. You see, as I outline in book 1, and I carry that on in book 2, as well as book 3, we were on the verge of a military coup d'etat. And this was long in the planning and even after the 78 days of bombing Kosovo, it became critical. And we were close to a coup d'etat at that time. In my survey of the reports and the pilots who worked with that, a coup was a possibility. In fact, a coup d'etat was pulled on the morning of September 11th. Only it was an administrative or what we call a cold coup d'etat.

AJ: Or reverse coup d'etat.

DGP: Yes, in fact....

AJ: A counter revolutionary junta.

DGP: Well that is correct. And as we delved into that, we found that the culprits, including Rumsfeld, were part of a neocon group that had been planning this thing for literally years prior to September 11th.

AJ: Absolutely, Colonel, it's just amazing picking your brain. We are going to break here. In talking to your this morning, I was proud to know that you've been a listener to this show for a while.

DGP: Well, I've had a single side band short wave set for about 4 years and I listened variously to Alex Jones, particularly up until about 2-years ago, and as a result of the events of September 11th, I did have a stoke. I'm fully recovered. As I told Alex, I went riding my favorite quarter horse this morning. So I'm back and ready for anything.

AJ: Well that's wonderful Colonel. Okay, we'll break and come back with the Colonel and get into all of this ' and later get to your calls, too. So please, stay with us.

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AJ: We'll take some of your calls for Col. Donn de Grand-Pre coming up in the next segment. He's done a lot of great work. I've only read one of his books. Donn, tell us about some of your books, what they cover and how folks can get a copy.

DGP: Okay, I've got three books out, Alex, under the title, "Barbarians Inside the Gates." Book 1 was "The Serpent's Sting," Book 2 is "The Viper's Venom," Book 3 which just came out is "The Rattler's Revenge." And I'd like to quote from Book 2, which came out October of 2002. There is a very important paragraph there. It says, "The trigger for the 911 activity was the imminent and unstoppable world-wide financial collapse which can only be prevented temporarily by a major war, perhaps to become known as World War III. To bring it off one more time, martial law will probably be imposed in the United States."

AJ: And now we've seen Gen. Eberhart say that that's the next step. Tommy Franks said that's the next step. Are those now chilling statements?

DGP: Yes, they are. This next step will be preceded by what I write up in book 1 ' "The Serpent's Sting." I wrote of a coming coup d'etat. And this was written in the year 2000. And sure as blazes, it's coming. And it will be preceded by these kinds of things as enunciated by Tommy Franks, among others. So we are in a world of hurt, Alex.

AJ: Now, by a coup d'etat, you mean another intensification of a reverse coup d'etat to keep the people from fighting against the New World Order or do you mean the type that Bill Clinton successfully stopped in his administration?

DGP: Well, I'm talking about the administrative coup d'etat that came off September 11th.

AJ: You're talking about an intensification of the elite in a coup d'etat against America.

DGP: That is correct.

AJ: Well, I mean, it's ongoing. They are federalizing everything, they are militarizing everything, they're engaging in the classic takeover, are they not?

DGP: Yes, there are. And from this, Alex, and I bring this out very clearly in book 3, the only way we can stop it is with the classic counter-coup d'etat where the military steps in. And under the aegis of the military itself, disengaging or disemboweling the civilian hierarchy and taking over and re-running or re-organizing the federal government.

AJ: Now the problem is they've got so many CFR minions in the Pentagon. We know that Clinton had some officers terminated and, in their office, shot multiple times and the rest of it. We know that that happened but the question is how many of the high level officers are on the globalist team?

DGP: I can only say several of the highest level are members now of the Council on Foreign Relations. The important thing to consider is how many of them are sincere in their beliefs as enunciated by the CFR. I believe there are several sleepers and I believe I know some of them personally who are three and four-star generals. They are members of the CFR but "their heart belongs to Jesus," if I can use that expression because they are true Semper Fidelity people. Some of them happen to be Marines. And I'm counting on them to do the right thing. And I bring this out in book 3.

AJ: Absolutely and we'll tell people how they can get those books. I mean I want to carry them but Colonel, your experience in the military, your experience in the intelligence agencies, there's also the danger though obviously in any military movement of that nature that it could be self-serving as well, and set up its own form of wickedness.

DGP: Yes, that's plausible, that's correct. I don't believe it will happen in exactly that fashion. And the thing about a coup d'etat and a counter-coup d'etat is you never know when it's going to happen. You never know exactly who is involved. This is a plus for any planners of a counter-coup d'etat.

AJ: Well, this is certainly dividing the wheat from the chaff. How many people, and we'll get the answer to the question when we get back from your feelers in the Pentagon, how many people in there now know that an element of the global system, a crime syndicate, carried out 911, I mean, only an idiot would know, would think they didn't but the point is, this has got to be accelerating the division. And I want to get your take on the pulse of that and we'll take calls when we get back. Stay with us.

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AJ: We are talking to Col. Donn de Grand-Pre and he worked in many of the levels of the U.S. military and has put out some really important information. Two years ago, he put out a report in a meeting in a 72-hour deliberation, a group of military and civilian U.S. pilots under the chairmanship of Col. Donn de Grand-Pre. After deliberating non-stop for 72-hours has concluded that the flight crews of the four passenger airliners involved in the September 11th tragedy had no control over the aircraft. And they get into how the military industrial complex clearly, that is elements of it, were in control of this. Colonel, we are going to go to some calls here in a minutes after you cover some other issues with us. But, understand this, my question of what percentage of the officers, period, in the military do you think have finally woken up to the true magnitude of what's going on?

DGP: Well, I'm in personal contact at least on a weekly basis with the Joint Chiefs and other select people. My computation is that 70% of us are with us. That's the higher ranking military, field grade officers, etc. and even the first three grades of the enlisted ' 70% are with us.

AJ: Well, they've had questionnaires, you know, a decade ago, will you fire on U.S. citizens under UN control if the president says so ' and, you know, 74% say no to that. Okay, then how are the globalists getting away with this?

DGP: Sheer [Garbled] bluff and we can thank many of the neocons who are now in power in the Defense Dept. particularly. They get away with it because they try it out and see if anybody will salute the flag and that's the way it goes.

AJ: So basically, they wrap their un-American agenda in a flag and the general public buys it so the military has to sit there and take it.

DGP: They do, yes, and I think those days are coming to an end. The military ain't going to take it any longer.

AJ: How did the military ever get convinced to use depleted uranium in areas where there is going to be troops?

DGP: To put what Alex?

AJ: Well, yeah, the military gets treated like dog meat. You've got the depleted uranium, Colonel, where they spray the depleted uranium everywhere where the troops breathe it at 1900 times safe levels. How can the Pentagon put up with that?

DGP: Well, the DU rounds are over-played, first of all. They aren't that potent and secondarily, we must consider that weapons of mass destruction have already been used by some of the opposition in the period February of 1991. Weapons of mass destruction, including low-yield nuclear weapons.

AJ: Okay, can you break that down for us?

DGP: Well, I break it down in the time frame that we had satellite images of rounds or missiles being fired from the Negev desert toward Baghdad. That's 600 miles distance. And six or eight of the rounds came in. That was February of 1991.

AJ: Are you saying that the Israelis used miniaturized nuclear weapons?

DGP: Yes sir. That's what I'm saying, in plain English.

AJ: Well I remember, I know they bragged that they had a lot of really sophisticated miniaturized nuclear weapons, of the little mini-frogs, or whatever. But and I know there were these giant mushroom clouds on the news. They'd say, "Oh, that's not a nuke. That's just a weapons depot." But you are saying that it is common knowledge at the Pentagon that Israel was firing nuclear weapons at Iraq?

DGP: That is correct.

AJ: Oh, so that's where all this high-level radiation is emanating from?

DGP: That is correct. And I have verification of that. I think it's in book 2. And I think it will stand up in most scrutiny.

AJ: Well, I know your work on September 11th certainly has. Do you think the globalists are going to have the will to carry out another massive attack here in the U.S. to try to get control back over the population and get their agenda back on track? Or do you think they've calculated, computed as you said, that that will blow up in their face because so many people now know who the real terrorists are?

DGP: That's a two-prong question, Alex. I think it deserves a studied answer. The only thing I can say is I'm not sure how it will turn out. But it is very dangerous.

AJ: From watching the globalists, I think they had a plan, they are still following a plan but I think they are shook-up. I think, from the evidence, in fact I know from the evidence, that a lot of things they planned haven't gone according to schedule and so they don't know what to do right now.

DGP: This is correct. I think it's personified in the persona of the Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz. They almost got him in Baghdad when they fired the salvo, one night, of weaponry and they scared Paul Wolfowitz off. He's ready to resign or get the hell out.

AJ: You think that was U.S. forces doing that?

DGP: I believe it. It was very well planned again and ..

AJ: Yeah, only U.S. forces would know that he would be there. Yeah.

DGP: That is correct. And the precision of those weapons that came into the hotel. There were eleven rounds in all and I can speak from authenticity that they scared the hell out of Paul Wolfowitz. And probably, C. Paul Bremer, or whatever his name is.

AJ: Why does the Pentagon hate Wolfowitz?

DGP: Wolfowitz has been in this game since 1974. I was still on active duty when I met him in 1974 and he was coming on strong even then. And along with him, Richard Perle and a couple of the others who are now known as neoconservatives.

AJ: Now Perle had the nickname as the crazy and the prince of darkness. Is that correct?

DGP: That is correct.

AJ: Why was he known as the prince of darkness?

DGP: I can't answer that directly. He was a snake to begin with but nothing was ever straight forward as far as Richard Perle was concerned. I introduced book 3 two quotes stating that Richard Perle is a madman. And it goes on from there.

AJ: Well he is a madman. He was at a press dinner last year and, again, giggling and laughing about how we are going to have World War III, we are going to nuke everyone, ha, ha, ha. And then he goes, "Isn't that impressive" and started grabbing on some women. I mean, he's a complete lunatic.

DGP: That is correct. Richard Perle's days are numbered. I don't know if he realizes it but so many of these so-called neocons, you'll notice now, that they are very quiet indeed. They are not really surfacing anymore, including Dick Cheney.

AJ: Yeah, why is Dick Cheney been literally hiding under a bunker?

DGP: He's been hiding under a bunker most of the time since September 11th.

AJ: And, by the way, it has come out that he took control of NORAD and was saying something in the U.S. ultra-secret bunkers, that he was on loud-speakers ordering people to follow his orders. He had to physically take control of something, from my sources, it was the fact that they were going to go ahead and shoot the aircraft down. That's what I've got from lawyers who represent military officers. We know he was in control through even during the hijackings, the supposed hijackings. What do you know about that? [Months before 9-11, in March 2001, Bush appointed Cheney as Director of Emergency Preparedness, a position in FEMA--giving Cheney authorization over all domestic terrorism/emergency response from ALL parts of the federal buraucracy including the military. It was this power that Cheney formally employed from his "node" on 9-11 to call off the typical response of the military intercept jets, and await further orders. Open telephone lines were immediately established between NORAD, Cheney, theater commanders, etc. after the first hit of 8:46 a.m., on WTC1. Cheney was heard on these lines.]

DGP: Well, not too much really. I can't speak to that because it's hypothetical and what I try to stick to are the cold hard facts.

AJ: Well, Colonel, we know he did take control of the bunkers. I just don't know what he said, according to ABC News but according to my sources which have been very accurate, he was ordering a stand down.

DGP: Yes, I can believe it but again, it's supposition and I still haven't been able to figure out what makes Dick Cheney tick. [RELATED: you want to know what makes Dick Cheney tick?
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AJ: So, well then why is he hiding in a bunker? Why is he at the Naval Observatory in a bunker most of the time?

DGP: I think that that is what he considers to be the safest place at the moment. He's basically a coward and this too will come out. I feel that Dick Cheney and Paul Wolfowitz, both of them, their days are numbered.

AJ: Okay, so politically more and more corruption coming out, more and more of their criminal activities coming out, serious issues. Colonel, how do folks get your books, the three-part series?

DGP: Okay, the book is easy to come by. My incomparable daughter Doneva is the publisher of these books and they are turning out top-grade, library quality books. Books 1, 2, and 3 ' "Barbarians Inside the Gates." They can be obtained by writing to post office box 1124, Madison, Virginia 22727. And send it in care of Grand-Pre Publishing, Ltd. And for the price of $30, you can get book 1. $30 again is book 2. And then for book 3 that just came out and it's a big book, 608 pages, we've had to up the price to $45.

AJ: Alright, these are thick books, jam-packed and the address is PO 1124, Madison, Virginia. And that zip code again'

DGP: 22727.

AJ: Alright and does that $30 include the shipping?

DGP: No, it really doesn't. For the books and we send them all out priority special handling, that's runs $3.85 a book.

AJ: Okay, got you. Alright we'll give that out again a little bit later. So let's go ahead and take some calls.

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AJ: All right, 8 minutes, 30 seconds into this third hour. Again I'm Alex Jones, your host. We'll have our guest with us for another twenty-five minutes or so, then I'm going to get into this big stack of news that we have not detailed yet. Believe me it's all very important. Our guest is Col. Donn de Grand-Pre. Honored to have him on the show. He's the author of a three-part series of books, "Barbarians Inside the Gates." And real quick, John in New York, you had a question about 9/11.

John: It's not a question. I want to make a comment. I was in the Air Force. My career field was radar operations and I was assigned to the Air Defense Command. The airliners turned around at Erie, Pennsylvania and were off-course for approximately one-hour, at the wrong altitude, at the wrong speed, without radio contact and it is absolutely insane for anybody to believe that could have happened unless people were told to stand down.

AJ: Well, Payne Stewart, in 18 minutes had five F-16s around him in the middle of no where. In the most sensitive air corridor in the world, the eastern coast there, D.C./ New York, with these four planes all over the map. And they know there's been hijackings and Dick Cheney's in control. Everything's standing down and ....

John: The fighters that were stationed in Virginia, just across the border from Washington, D.C., could have been flying at bust speed, which is max speed, they could have intercepted those planes in 15 minutes and saved all that tragedy. And the second airplane was 15 minutes behind the first airplane. So to think they didn't do anything about the second one makes it even more ludicrous. So, terrific guest; terrific show. Thanks for taking my call.

AJ: All right, and again, we don't even do this justice to focus on one area. I mean we've got all the public officials being told not to go to New York, the insider trading by the CIA, the Bushes protecting the bin Ladens. Colonel, do you want to comment on that?

DGP: Well, what I was trying to get through here, John has done a beautiful job of laying it all out here on 911. What I want to carry away is that the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs himself has agreed, there were no hijackers. There were no cell phone calls. Everybody aboard that aircraft, pilots and crew, were unconscious within 8 to 18 minutes after take-off. And you can take it from there. I've got it covered in books 2 and 3, what actually happened.

AJ: So, they're knocked out and then the remote control takes place and the rest is history.

DGP: Yeah, there was remote control and .. yes.

AJ: By the way, people don't believe they have that. Kennedy's oldest son, JFK's big brother, died in a chase plane with remote controlling in a bomber loaded with explosives as a drone in 1944.

DGP: That is correct.

AJ: So this very old technology, folks. And for people that are in total denial, it's ridiculous. Let's go ahead and talk to Wayne in Virginia. Wayne, thanks for holding, go ahead.

Wayne: Yes sir, thank you. I have a two-part question. The first part is Colonel..ah.

AJ: Donn de Grand-Pre

Wayne: de Grand-Pre. I'm sorry sir, I stumbled over your name. Could you play the instructor with us ground-pounders for a little while and tell us why, from an airmanship point of view, the maneuvers the aircraft performed were just inexplicable and bordering on the impossible from a pilot's point of view?

DGP: Yes, let me get that real quick for Wayne from Virginia. These planes were being piloted by remote control, probably an AWACs aircraft taking over that airplane or airplanes or drones, unmanned drones. And flying them at 5 and 8 G-force that no pilot could withstand. So, in short, and if you read books 2 and 3, you will discover how and why this came about.

Wayne: The second part of my question is after 911, our Congressman from down here, Randy Forbes spoke at a Veterans' Foreign Wars Hall about how close he was to the Bush and Rumsfeld cabal and how before 911 he had a briefing at the White House where they were told they were expecting something big from Afghanistan. And he also in his discussion, there were about 200 or 300 people there, it is recorded on film. And my notes are very clear on this. He also said they were following other aircraft out over the ocean. Do you have any knowledge of that? That is something that I have not heard discussed at all about 911.

DGP: No, but this comes under speculation now. And I'm telling you that we are knowledgeably speculating. Those aircraft carrying crew and passengers went over the Atlantic and that was all she wrote.

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AJ: Yeah, you remote control (sic) the original planes out, then your loaded up drones attack. And the biggest and oldest newspaper in Spain just came out, three weeks ago, and they looked at the bottom of one of those jets and there's some type of giant belly attachment. It's clearly a modified aircraft.

Wayne: Can I ask one final question?

AJ: Yes.

Wayne: That your line of discussion here, the Colonel in the past few minutes, has just opened up. You said earlier that you expected when push comes to shove that this 70% of general and field grade officers are going to say that's it. Well the enterprise that we are discussing here of taking regularly scheduled civilian airlines out and ditching them in the ocean and putting in their places aerial bombs....

AJ: Yeah, that is push coming to shove.

Wayne: That is it. Why aren't these people coming forward now?

AJ: Let me say this. We know because, folks I don't want to give too much detail out. I've talked to lawyers. I've talked to them. We know hundreds of high level officers have leaked everything we are now learning about today. So, I think that this caught a lot of people unawares. Colonel, do you want to comment on that?

DGP: Well, the only thing I can say is that let's consider that second aircraft that hit the World Trade Center. It did have a control device on the belly of the 757. That aircraft was unmanned and went in and blew up as a diversion. And something else happened. This was a sideshow.

AJ: I understand but going back to, we know they had bombs in the buildings, it's now admitted, but going back to what the caller said, your saying these elements in the military when push came to shove are going to stand up. Well, I would say that 911 was the globalists pushing. So, where's the shove? That's his question.

DGP: Well this will come. It's going to be in the form of a counter-coup d'tat. You understand that a coup d'tat was pulled on September 11th by the civilian hierarchy. [crosstalk] Say again?

Wayne: God grant that it would come soon.

DGP: Well, we, we, yes it probably will.

Wayne: They are talking about going into Syria now.

DGP: Don't believe it. There is a new ballgame there and I can't go into it right now. But Syria is going to be something else entirely involving NATO forces. And I can't go into that much right now.

AJ: Okay, thanks for the call, Wayne. Let's talk to Diane in South Carolina. Diane, go ahead.

Diane: Hi, before I asked my question. Please ask Don de Grand-Pre, Sir, to give us a phone number so we can contact him. And I have read the first book. It is awesome. It's like reading history and just watching everything unfold.

AJ: Yeah, he wrote about it in 2000 and then it happens a year later.

Diane: So, here's my question. On Thursday of last week in the Courier in South Carolina, they had a small article on the Russians who are now doing this World War III practice.

AJ: Yeah, the Russians are doing nuclear attack drills on us--our little buddies, you know.

Diane: Okay, they had in there about a maneuverable nuclear-tipped weapon for offensive purposes.....

AJ: Yeah, they say they've got a missile that nothing can stop...

Diane: It's an airplane that goes five times the speed of sound. This was in the paper.

AJ: Well, they've had that for a while. You want to comment on that?

Diane: And my question is how is the foreign military in the United States vs. our military going to respond? And it looks like Russia is making some moves now. What do you think about Russia?

AJ: Yeah Colonel, that's a good question. I have all the articles, I have the documents they really are trying to integrate foreign and East German, Czech Republic, others into our military. How is that going?

DGP: It's probably going. I can't give you detail. You are bordering on certain elements that I can't talk about. But we have to consider the Russian aspect of these weapons as being in essence propaganda. We have the same type of unmanned aircraft drones, etc. that will fly 5 times the speed of sound.

AJ: They will do a lot more than that.

DGP: Yeah, but Diane let's not worry too much about the Russians.

Diane: Well, is there a non-gravitational type airplane or something?

AJ: No, they've got regular propulsion air. .. look, look Ma'am, they claim the SR 71 Blackbird in flight in '55, in service in '59, was the fastest jet in the world. It is not and it cruises at mach 3. Okay, I mean they got jets that will just.....

Diane: I know we are way behind what they are telling us. What I'm thinking....

AJ: Do you want to comment on that?

Diane: And ask him to give out his number for us, too.

DGP: Let me give you a home phone where you can contact me at Grand Pre Publishing Ltd. at 540-547-2996. And that's my home phone. It's a private phone and you can call me anytime.

AJ: Okay, now we know that you had a stroke a few years ago worrying about this so much. So folks, don't bug him too much. Hey, I feel like I'm going to have one everyday worrying about this.

DGP: I can handle just about anything including this 15-year old gelding that I was riding this morning.

AJ: Okay, well that's good sir. We'll be right back. We'll take more calls.

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AJ: All right folks. Here's the deal, we are going to take 5 more calls for our guest. Then let our guest go. I really appreciate him coming on. Then I'm going to cover a bunch of news that we haven't really detailed yet. It's very, very important and recap some top stories as well. Diane had asked your phone number and if you want to give it out, that's fine. Folks, if you want to talk to the Colonel, it's 540-547-2996. And before he leaves us in the next segment, we'll give you the mailing address again to get the books. Let's talk to John in Tennessee. John, you are on the air, go ahead.

John: Colonel, did a cruise missile hit the Pentagon or a Global Hawk or a drone business jet?

DGP: You are talking about what hit the Pentagon, right John? It was a cruise missile. It could have been a Global Hawk. It was not a commercial aircraft.

AJ: That's what the eye-witnesses said and the evidence shows. And do people realize that this was staged at the Pentagon? I mean obviously it's in an area that's under renovation and then all this happens. Do people at the Pentagon? are they still buying the official story, Colonel?

DGP: Well, I can't speak for the rest of them but I'm certainly not buying that. And I think I've got the full story in book 3. And that's it. It was a diversionary hit for strategic reasons and it didn't matter whether it was a pilotless drone or a Global Hawk missile. It wasn't a commercial aircraft.

AJ: It's the most surveilled area in the world but no video of it. Witnesses said they saw a small aircraft.

DGP: No, they did not. We have [garbled] a video that purports to show a firing of a launch probably from a Global Hawk or an unmanned aircraft missile but it certainly wasn't a commercial aircraft.

John: And was United Airlines Flight 93 shot down in Pennsylvania by a U.S. or NATO pilot and was that what was supposed to hit the Pentagon?

DGP: No, that was hit at 10:00 hours. It was taken out by the North Dakota Air Guard. I know the pilot who fired those two missiles to take down 93.

John: Was it shot down because the airline pilots actually regained control of the hijacked auto-pilot or was that to replace the unmanned drone that was shot down?

DGP: No, it was the aircraft, you see, had totally unconscious people on board. There were no hijackers. At 9:35, the Happy Hooligans, the Air Guard flying the F-16s were ordered to take that plane out. And they took it out from 9:35 to 10:00.

John: Were there any refueling jets involved in that operation?

AJ: Hold on a second, John. The question is why would they deviate from the plan of flying it into the Capitol? Why did the globalists decide to go ahead and shoot the plane down?

DGP: There had been an adjustment to the controls, probably by an AWACs aircraft flying overhead, again, remote control. And it was on a course for either the Capitol or the White House. And at this stage, you don't know. The Happy Hooligans came in and took care of it.

AJ: Do you think they were not following orders?

DGP: Who, the Happy Hooligans?

AJ: Well, yeah, you've got Cheney running around, we've got the stand down taking place.

DGP: Well, this is correct, but you see the Adj. General of the State of North Dakota gave the command to take it out. And, by God, they took it out. And I've got the full story in the book.

AJ: That's a good thing they did that. You said you talked to the pilot. Think about this folks. Imagine what Bush would have gotten if he would have had that plane fly into the Capitol? Imagine the police state we would be in right now.

DGP: Yes, yes, yes, indeed.

AJ: And so you had to have the diversionary blast at the Pentagon so no one would get suspicious and think it was a military coup.

DGP: Perhaps, perhaps. [RELATED: Who exactly was left to die in that knowingly bomb-rigged and blast-reinforced section of the Pentagon? An important missing puzzle piece: 9-11 PENTAGON FIRE COVER-UP: "rescue" as 60 hr. witness assassination , author: Carol Valentine ,  http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/01/278515.shtml ]

AJ: John, does that answer your question?

John: Was there any refueling tankers used by the North Dakota Air Guard and what tanker wing was used?

DGP: I don't know about the aircraft itself. I don't know about refueling. They came off base in Langley and it was just a few minutes out from Langley to the intercept over Pennsylvania. It was just a matter of minutes.

AJ: Colonel, how did you get in touch with the pilot who shot the plane down?

DGP: It turned out to be an old friend of mine from the Air National Guard and this is my home state of North Dakota. And I attended the ceremony in North Dakota and watched the Adj. General [garbled] the pilot being decorated a year later for this activity that happened on 911 with Flight 93.

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AJ: Welcome back. We are about to go back to the Colonel and his amazing revelation of the North Dakota National Guard that had been moved to Langley Virginia a few months before 911. And then went in there and shot down that Flight 93 over Pennsylvania. He says he's talked to the pilot. His info checks out. I've been researching what he's been doing for years. Before we go back to our guest and 4 final calls from Scott and June and Warren and Greg, and we'll go to you quick too, because we've got a bunch of news we need to get to.

[Skipped segment]

Colonel, before we take these four final calls, go over that a little bit slower for folks. That's a big deal. You talked to the pilot, a friend of yours, who shot down Flight 93 that was going for the Capitol or the White House. And go over that for folks.

DGP: Okay, quick rundown. They were out of Hector Field, Fargo, North Dakota. A bunch, this 119 Fighter Group and they are called the Happy Hooligans. They are probably the best interceptors that we have in the country. They were moved to Langley Air Force Base from Hector Field down to Southern Virginia. And when the klaxon horn went off at 9:35, those two pilots put down their coffee and shot into their aircraft and took off. They didn't know where they were going initially but by 10:00 hours, they had rendezvoused over Southern Pennsylvania. That's about 250 miles in just a matter of minutes and engaged 93 with two side-winder missiles. And they accomplished their objective. Now Hector Field, I use to fly out of Hector Field some time ago. I know most of those pilots. I could name names. I know the National Guard Adj. General. And they were decorated about a year later and I have the full write up of that story in my book.

AJ: Yeah and it's just ignored by the media. I have that article, too. And later, well okay, it was a missile, well there wasn't "Let's Roll." It's all made-up theatre for the public and we buy it like a bunch of saps.

DGP: That is correct.

AJ: It's incredible. Let's go ahead and talk to Scott in Florida. Scott, go ahead.

Scott: Hi, how you doing?

AJ: Fine.

Scott: Earlier in the show, you mentioned that both Cheney and Wolfowitz might be in some trouble. I was wondering if they'd been serving the real rulers of the world, the thirteen families or whatever they are, and been dutifully pushing the agenda for world government....

AJ: Yeah, obviously they are just minions, [crosstalk] policy wonk puppets, so you're saying.....

Scott: If they've been doing a good job for them, why are they in danger vs. a Powell or Rice or Bush, or all they all in danger?

AJ: Or in danger of Rockefeller?

Scott: Right.

DGP: Cheney is closest to the action. He was probably most involved in all of the details of September 11th and he'll be one of the first to fall. So I predict, I predict that Cheney will be out of here inside of, well prior to the election.

Scott: Is that because he knows exactly what happened or because ...

DGP: Yes, he knows exactly what happened.

Scott: You have to eliminate all those people.

DGP: Several, yes.

AJ: Now, again...

Scott: Wouldn't that serve as a warning to anybody who would serve them in the future?

DGP: Perhaps but these guys can only understand one ingredient and that is force. And that's why it has to emanate from the military. And military force in the persona of military tribunals will takeover. And Cheney, as I reiterate, is toast.

AJ: But they are the ones who are creating the tribunals. I will say this. Gen. Rick Bacchus, over a year ago, Rhode Island native, the head of Gitmo, Guantanamo Bay, he resigned and said, "I'm not going to torture innocent people." Now that hardly got any press. We have two-star generals quitting. We have a lot of people not going along with this already.

DGP: And there will be a lot more, Alex.

AJ: Pardon me?

DGP: There will be a lot more people either resigning or retiring. And yet it's going to come out and there will be military tribunals.



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Donn de Grand Pre
THE ENEMY IS INSIDE THE GATES
Thu Aug 7 19:44:51 2003
67.30.97.13

Colonel Donn de Grand Pre (ret), in his book, "The Viper's Venom" concludes that the 911 terror attacks were done by remote control technology. Grand Pre was the top US arms dealer to the Middle East under the Ford and Carter administrations. What he saw caused him to leave government service and begin investigating the forces he saw warping our nation's destiny.

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Donn De Grand Pre'

Profile: Author of the book Barbarians Inside The Gates: The Black Book of Bolshevism. Donn is retired military. Served in WWII and the Korean "police action". Stated reason for the book: to sound the alarm, U.S. military is being downsized, downgraded, degraded and demoralized. Barbarians/Bolshivists in charge hold the highest ranks of military office. While we find his suggested remedy frightening, he makes a case. Highly recommended reading for its documented historical facts that fill in many blanks; i.e. Swedish Jew, D. D. Eisenhower's rise to power, responsible for the death of hundreds of thousands of Germans post WWII; Holocaust hoax planned in 1919; history of Israel's creation/ creators; ongoing media blitz foments animosity toward Arabs.. the real Semites. Published in 2000, Barbarians brings us to present day. Address: Grand Pre' Books, Inc., PO Box 1124 / Madison, Virginia 22727 Phone: 1-800-603-3575 (For Visa and Mastercard orders only!)

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 http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/enemy.html

Donn de Grand Pre, a retired Army colonel, is author of A Window on America, Confessions of an Arms Peddler and his latest, Barbarians Inside the Gates

THE ENEMY IS INSIDE THE GATES
by Donn de Grand Pre, Oct. 23, 2001

A dedicated group of experienced civilian and military pilots, including combat fighter pilots and commercial airline captains, just finished a marathon 72 hours of non-stop briefings and debate over the current crisis evolving from the use of commercial aircraft as cruise missiles against the World Trade Center and the Pentagon on 11 September.

The so-called terrorist attack was in fact a superbly executed military operation against the United States, requiring the utmost professional military skill in command, communications and control. It was flawless in timing, in the choice of selected aircraft to be used as guided missiles, and in the coordinated delivery of those missiles to their pre-selected targets.

As a tactical military exercise against two significant targets (world financial center and the citadel of world strategic military planning), the attack, from a psychological impact on the American public, equaled the Japanese "surprise" attack on Pearl Harbor 7 Dec 1941.

The over-riding question: If we are at war, who is the enemy?

The group determined that the enemy is within the gates, that he has infiltrated into the highest policy-making positions at the Federal level, and has absolute control, not only of the purse strings, but of the troop build-up and deployment of our military forces, including active, reserve and National Guard units.

PRELUDE TO PANIC

The 9-11 activity and horrific destruction of US property and lives was intentionally meant to trigger a psychological and patriotic reaction on the part of the US citizens, which is paving the way for "combined UN activity" (using the fig leaf of NATO) for striking key targets in both the Middle East/ South Asia and the Balkans. The goal continues to be ultimate destruction of all national sovereignty and establishment of a global government.

The trigger for the 9-11 activity was the imminent and unstoppable world-wide financial collapse, which can only be prevented (temporarily) by a major war, perhaps to become known as WW 111. To bring it off (one more time), martial law will probably be imposed in the United States.

In each of the major wars of the 20th century, the financial manipulators (located in the City of London and New York City) had placed the US (and much of the Western world) in a monetary expansion mode, followed by an ever-tightening vice of a gigantic credit squeeze. We now have two ongoing and tightly controlled simultaneous events (emanating from the two symbolic targets of 911:

1) Alan Greenspan, Fed chairman, promising to flood the market with up to $200 billion in FRNs and to further lower interest rates, thus bringing about hyperinflation and dollar devaluation. Much of these multi billions in largesse will be dumped into the coffers of Wall Street, Defense, bankrupt airlines, insurance companies and into the willing arms of debt-ridden third-world countries in the form of debt repudiation (forgiveness). Call it bribery, in order to get these often reluctant nations to join our coalition of "freedom fighters" in "the war against terrorism".

2) Paul Wolfowitz, deputy Defense secretary, promised that the US will launch "sustained military strikes against those behind the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington". He said that the "military retaliation would continue until the roots of terrorism are destroyed."

This bit of saber rattling was seconded by select NATO allies (especially Britain), and by our chief ally in the Middle East, the Butcher of Beirut, Ariel Sharon, while Secretary of Defense Don Rumsfeld, with the blessings of Pres. Bush 11, is activating thousands of national guard and reservists, not only to guard the vulnerable airports, but to do fly-overs of our Nation's capital in F16s from the North Dakota Air Guard. Other National Guard units are being jockeyed into potential combat "hot spots" throughout the Middle East/South Asia and the Balkans.

WHO IS THE ENEMY?

Following is a summary of the near-unanimous views of the assembled military and civilian pilots concerning certain critical factors relating to the WTC/Pentagon hit of 9-11:

Troubling questions arose about the alleged pilot-hijackers of the four aircraft, who were supposedly trained on Cessna aircraft over the past year at fields in Florida and Oklahoma. One General officer remarked, "I seriously question whether these novices could have located a target dead-on 200 miles removed from takeoff point...-- much less controlled the flight and mastered the intricacies of 11FR (instrument flight rules) -- and all accomplished in 45 minutes."

The extremely skillful maneuvering of the three aircraft at near mach speeds, each unerringly hitting their targets, was superb. As one Air Force officer -- a veteran of over 100 sorties over North Vietnam -- explained, "Those birds (commercial airliners) either had a crack fighter pilot in the left seat, or they were being maneuvered by remote control."

Another pilot warned that "we had better consider whether electro-magnetic pulse or radio frequency weapons were used from a command and control platform hovering over the Eastern Seaboard... I'm talkin' AWACS."

Another comment: "If there was an AWACS on station over the targeted area, did it have a Global Hawk capability? I mean, could it convert the commercial jets to robotic flying missiles?

A hotly debated question: Who would be in command of such an Airborne Warning and Control System (AWACS)? Were they Chinese -- Russians -- Saudis -- Israelis -- NATO ? All of these countries possess AWACS-type aircraft. All (except the Saudis) have the capability to utilize electro-magnetic pulsing (EMP) to knock out on-board flight controls and communications of targeted aircraft, and then, to fly them by remote control.

One of the Air Force officers explained that we had already flown a robot plane the size of a Boeing 737 across the Pacific to Australia -- unmanned -- from Edwards AF13 in California to a successful landing on an Aussie base in South Australia. It flies along a pre-programmed flight path, but is "monitored" (controlled remotely) by a pilot from an outside station.

He explained that the London Economist (20 Sep 2001) published comments from the former CEO of British Airways, Robert Ayling, who stated that an aircraft could be commandeered from the ground or air and controlled remotely in the event of a hijack.

COMMERCIAL JETS AS GUIDED MISSILES

An AP story, dateline Brussels - 7 Oct 01 -- "At Washington's request, NATO will soon deploy surveillance aircraft for anti-terrorist operations in the United States in response to the attacks on New York and Washington, NATO officials said Sunday, an unprecedented use of foreign military forces to defend the U.S. homeland."

The assembled group of pilots debated why we would ask for foreign forces to fly AWACS over our sovereign territory when we have a fleet of 33 of them, of which 28 are stationed in Oklahoma. The debate also centered on whether such NATO surveillance aircraft were already here prior to 11 September.

Could one of them have commandeered the four airliners?

There seems to be wide discrepancies between what the Federal government is proclaiming -- and their media moguls reporting -- as opposed to the calm and reasoned and rational views of those men who fly the planes and defend the nation against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

This writer has been a general aviation pilot since 1946. I have flown a variety of single engine prop aircraft since, and installed an FAA-approved airstrip here on my farm in 1980. Two local pilots periodically joined me for short hops; one, a Madison County lawyer, a graduate of the Air Force Academy, who flew for the Air Force before coming home to practice law.

The other, Kent Hill, who lives with his wife, Carol, on a farm close to mine, is an American Airlines captain assigned to the European route. He was a lifelong friend of "Chic" Burlingame, They were graduates of the Naval Academy and flew F-4 Phantoms in Vietnam. Both left the Navy 28 years ago and joined American Airlines. Both planned to retire in 2002. Chic was the captain of AA flight 77, a Boeing 757, which departed Washington Dulles for Los Angeles at 8:10 am on 11th September, with 58 passengers and a crew of 6. Flight 77 (sic) crashed into the Pentagon at 9:41 am.

"We were totally trained on the old type of hijack," Capt Hill said, "where you treat the hijacker cordially, punch a 4-digit code into your transponder to alert ground control you're being hijacked, and then get him where he wants to go, set the plane safely on the ground and let them deal with it on the ground. However, this is a totally new situation... Not one of the planes alerted ground control that they were being hijacked." How come? [Because they were all gassed almost immediately, according to de Grand-Pre.]

"The fact is, all the transponders were turned off on the doomed flights virtually at the same time." Look at their departure times -- two from Logan (Boston), one from Newark, another from Dulles (Washington DC) -- all between 8 am and 8:15.

"Shortly after climb-out to [stable] flight level, their transponders are de-activated.. (they are no longer a blip on the radar screens). This is something that really needs to be looked into. The only reason we turn them off is so they don't interfere with ground systems when we land."

(Note: Transponders identify a particular aircraft in flight on the radar screens of FAA flight controllers located throughout the country. Various codes are punched into the transponder, one displaying, "I am being hijacked.") [Planes are always still visible on radar, though from this point on they are simply unlabeled due to the loss of the IFF transponder signal.]

Although there is much talk among the various flight crews, Hill says they are not privy to any of the investigations into the events of 11th September. "We're in the dark -- very much so ... They're playing it pretty tight to the vest."

He is convinced none of the pilots had control of their aircraft when they were flown into the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. The question then becomes, who was really in control?

"Even if I had a gun at my head, I'd never fly a plane into a building. I'd try to put it in anywhere -- a field or a river --and I'd be searing the hell out of them (the hijackers) by flying upside down first," Hill said.

In fact, the pilot has the best weapon in his hand when threatened with imminent death by a hijacker, namely, the airplane.

Another airline pilot stated. "On hearing a major scuffle in the cabin, the pilot should have inverted the aircraft and the hijackers end up with broken necks."

That none of the four pilots executed such a maneuver points toward the fact that none of them had control of their aircraft, but had been overridden by an outside force, which was flying them by remote control.

As an old and not so bold pilot, I became more convinced that the four commercial jets were choreographed by a "conductor" from a central source, namely an airborne warning and control system (AWACS). They have the electronic capability to engage several aircraft simultaneously, knock out their on-board flight controls by EMP (electro-magnetic pulsing) and assume command and remote control of these targeted aircraft.

As we consider all the options -- and enemies -- who performed this act of war, whether from China, Russia, Israel, an Islamic country, or from NATO, we must also consider that the enemy may be within the gates.

If so, then we are dealing with high treason.

IS THERE A CHINA - ISRAEL CONNECTION?

Under a heading "High-powered Microwave weapons' (Regnery Pub 1999) reported: ', the authors of Red Dragon Rising,

High-powered microwave weapons (sometimes known as radio frequency weapons) which the PLA calls the 'superstars' of warfare, represent the new armaments that may define twenty-first century warfare. These very dangerous weapons can jam electronic equipment by emitting an extremely powerful pulse of electromagnetic energy over a wide area, or their energy can be focused in a narrow beam for use against American satellites or commercial airliners.

In that startling and factual work, the authors highlight the exceptional efforts on the part of the PLA to acquire the latest hi-tech data from the United States, especially for the "superstars of radio frequency and electro-magnetic pulse weaponry." In their chapter on "Targeting America", the authors refer to a bipartisan Cox-Dicks Committee given the task to investigate "U.S. National Security and Military/Commercial concerns with the Peoples Republic of China".

They point out that the Clinton administration changed the export control regulations (Jan 1996) and that by the end of 1998 the PRC had 600 American super computers.

In 1997-98 the Congressional Joint Economic Committee held hearings on "Radio Frequency Weapons and Proliferation: Potential Impact on the Economy". Several experts appearing before the Committee warned that these weapons pose a distinct threat to the United States. It was revealed during the hearings that China (PLA) has had a high-powered microwave weapon program for 25 years under the direction of one of many Chinese students educated at Berkeley over the years.

The key statement was that the PLA has access to American research -- "through espionage".

Let's fast-forward to 1999 and to a New York Times Op Ed piece by A. M. Rosenthal (22 Oct 1999), in which he described the long-secret arms deals between Israel and Red China. He was the managing editor of the New York Times for 15 years prior to that article appearing and a dedicated supporter of Israel. However, as a result of that article, he was fired.

The title of his Op Ed was "The Deadly Cargo", and the lead sets the theme:

More often now, the special cargo arrives in China from Israel -- riles from Israeli military computers, crates with the makings of missiles and other weapons, and the men in the lab coats, the engineers and scientists who know how to put it all together...

And now I see the Chinese minister of defense, who is one of the ranking Tiananmen killers, visits Israel. I read obsequious Israeli speeches praising him and his government...

The two countries talk openly about bigger arms deals in the making. I learn that the Chinese have knit together Russian and Israeli specialties...

The Russians are converting Ilyushin planes into the framework of U.S.-type flying command posts (AWACS) and will ship them to Israel...

In an astounding interview by Tom Valentine (24 Oct 1999) on Radio Free America with Andrew St. George the two developed the emerging scandal of Israel's secret arms deal with Red China. They referred to the Cox Committee hearings and stated that "unfortunately , the official Cox 'investigation' into China's capture of American technology covered up Israel's involvement."

Valentine stressed that the Reagan administration allowed the trade to escalate in the 1980s, with the help and encouragement of such officials as Richard Perle, Stephen Bryen, Fred Ickle and Paul Wolfowitz ..."They were the kingpins of the Defense Department in the Reagan years."

In case you missed it, they are now back as key advisers to President Bush II; in fact, the leading war hawk pressing for our armed forces to go to war against the Muslim World is the Deputy Secretary of Defense, Paul Wolfowitz.

We are being deluged by the current crop of Israel Firsters, all shouting "It's time to declare war". and "First war of 21st Century" ( Alan Dershowitz on CNN - William Kristol, Washington Times - Leonard Piekoff, Washington Post)), and former Israeli prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, appearing before the U.S. Congress.

QUO VADIS? (Whither Goest?)

To better grasp where we are heading (other than to the Khyber Pass), we can dip back to recent history (Vietnam, Korea, Desert Storm, Kosovo) to get a better focus of the direction we are going, even though our commander-in-chief has yet to define the specific enemy.

"Terrorism is like sin; everybody is aginst it."

To those of us who have actually engaged an enemy (often contrived) on the battlefield, and/or who have armchaired other wars from a vantage point, say, the E-Ring of the Pentagon, the pomposity and solemnity and the speechifying of our fearless politicians, as well as their favorite talking heads on the idiot box, is eerily familiar. It is in fact deja vous all over again.

Once again, we will rely on "perpetual war for perpetual peace" to bring us out of the abyss of a major financial collapse. We either turn out the Barbarians Inside the Gates, or we prepare for the long dark night of no return. There is no longer a third option.



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APPENDIX

Since 1995, Skolnick has put on Internet, exclusive details of the small group of highly patriotic admirals and generals who have repeatedly but unsuccessfully sought, as authorized under the Military Code, to arrest their Commander-in-Chief Bill Clinton on their documented charges of treason.

If he arrested them for mutiny, they were prepared, if they survived, to defend themselves at Courts Martial with their documents proving he sold top nuclear secrets to sworn enemies of the United States, including Red China. [note that this connects with Zionism/China/US espoinage theft of military secrets from the links above.]

Clinton has [HAD] met from time to time in the White House with Wang Jun, the reputed head of the Red Chinese Secret Police.

Such matters have not been discussed in the mass media as they would embarrass and finger supposed "Independent" Counsel Kenneth W. Starr.

Wang Jun is Starr's PRIVATE law client.

Also, Starr is the UNREGISTERED foreign lobbyist for the Red Chinese Government. Meaning that Clinton's Justice Department can whenever they wish prosecute and jail Starr as an UNREGISTERED foreign lobbyist.

Wang Jun is also the head of the Red Chinese Government operation, Poly Technologies, that makes and markets AK-47 submachine guns and has reportedly attempted to sell them to U.S. inner-city narco-terrorist gangs.

Were the Red Chinese hoping to instigate shoot-em-ups with local police all over the U.S. The following is a short-list of the U.S. flag officers assassinated because they opposed Clinton and under the Military Code sought to arrest Clinton, their Commander-in-Chief:

April 17, 1995. A planeload of top U.S. Military brass were assassinated when their plane blew up by sabotage near Alexander City, Alabama, including Clark FEISTER, an assistant Secretary of the Air Force, close friend of the then Secretary of Defense PERRY; Major General Glenn PROFITT II, director of plans and operations for the Air Education and Training Command at Randolph Air Force Base, San Antonio, Texas. Also the one who had been head of a super-secret military agency that was called Army Security Agency.

They had on onboard, to confront Clinton and the Pentagon with lies, a live POW, supposedly not supposed to exist, from Southeast Asia.

They were prepared to show how top U.S. officials, also cronies of CLINTON, were in the dope traffic from S.E. Asia, "the Golden Triangle", including George Herbert Walker BUSH, retired Pentagon official General Colin POWELL, and former Pentagon official Richard ARMITAGE. [Armitage was Deputy Defense Secretary when Powell was Chair, Joint Chiefs of Staff, Bush Senior appointment.]

Also assassinated to prevent a [loyalist] military coup: The highest naval officer in uniform, Chief of Naval Operations Admiral Jeremy BOORDA, assassinated in his office with several caliber weapons and disguised in the press as a "suicide".

Also assassinated: General David MCCLOUD, head of the Alaska Military District, site of the Early Warning System of missile attacks; murdered by way of a sabotaged air crash. Giving aid and assistance to these flag officers planning to arrest CLINTON, was the former Director of Central Intelligence, William COLBY, assassinated near his vacation home and falsely written off as an alleged "boating accident". COLBY had been general counsel of the CIA's bank proprietary, Nugan Hand Bank and their successor and alter ego, HOUSEHOLD INTERNATIONAL and HOUSEHOLD BANK. HOUSEHOLD has their world headquarters in the Chicago suburb of Prospect Heights, Illinois.

Parked with HOUSEHOLD was 58.4 million dollars of federal funds to make good the long-pending claims of Chicago-area caulking contractor, Joseph Andreuccetti, that a series of banks, including Household, perpetrated a massive swindle on him. 50 million dollars [in his account that unrelatedly happened to be at this CIA/drug dealing connected bank] of that was secretly transferred to Little Rock, Arkansas to try to cover up the embezzlement of 47 million dollars from Madison Guaranty Savings & Loan, for which [drug dealing] Bill and Hillary CLINTON are subject to being federal criminally prosecuted and sent to prison for misappropriation.

S & L owner Jim MCDOUGAL was murdered in jail the night before his testimony about all this.

His ex-wife Susan has been repeatedly harassed to shut her up on what she knows about all this.

Cong. Dan BURTON [R., Ind.] started to put the details of the mysterious 50 million dollars and Clinton into the Congressional Record, 5/29/96, pages H5627-28. Was it blackmail, threats, or what? that stopped Burton from putting in ALL the details.


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"THE OVERTHROW OF THE AMERICAN REPUBLIC, Part One
by Sherman H. Skolnick 09/22/01 [NOTE THE DATE OF THE FIRST INSTALLMENT]

BACKGROUND ON SKOLNICK FIRST:

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BACKGROUND DATA ON SHERMAN H. SKOLNICK

Since 1958 he has been a court reformer. Since 1963 he has been the founder/chairman, Citizen's Committee to Clean Up the Courts, a public interest group researching and disclosing certain instances of judicial bribery and political murders. Since 1971, his comments have been on a recorded phone message he calls HOTLINE NEWS, on 24 hours per day and it is a regular phone call, not an expensive one: [773] 731-1100.

Since 1991 he has been a regular participant and producer, and since 1995, he has been producer/moderator of "BROADSIDES", a one hour weekly taped public access Cable TV Show on IN CHICAGO each Monday evening, 9 p.m., Channel 21 Cable. The program reaches some 400,000 viewers each Monday night and outpulls three local commercial TV Programs. His comments have appeared on various websites that can be located on Internet through a good search engine. There are about 70,000 references to him and his work on Internet, some, of course, replications.

In 1973, Mr. Skolnick wrote a book, "The Secret History of Airplane Sabotage", a heavily documented book dealing, among other things, with the sabotaged plane crash December 1972, in Chicago, one month after Nixon was re-elected President. Twelve Watergate figures died when the United Air Lines plane pancaked just short of Midway airport. Dead in the crash zone were Mrs. E. Howard Hunt, wife of the Watergate burglar and others linked to the Watergate Affair. She had in her possession over 2 million dollars in valuables obtained by blackmailing Nixon on his role in the 1963 political assassination of President John F. Kennedy.

Skolnick's group "liberated" the entire unpublicized file of the National Transportation Safety Board, some 1300 pages of documented reports and pictures showing sabotage. Skolnick brought a suit against the NTSB contending sabotage cover-up. The NTSB re-opened their public hearings on the crash but continued to contend it was caused by "pilot error".

Skolnick--who was the star-witness at the re-opened hearings--demanded that the NTSB panel disqualify themselves since most were financially tied to the airlines industry and that Rockefellers, owners of all three News Networks, and major owner of United Air Lines, wanted the matter censored.

The NTSB panel refused to disqualify themselves and entered a whitewash report, condemning Skolnick and his associates. Thereafter, Rockefellers' lawyers harassed the publisher so that Skolnick's book was stopped in the printing cycle and no copies are now available.

More highlights of the work of the Citizen's Committee to Clean Up the Courts. Their work in 1969 touched off the biggest judicial bribery scandal in U.S. history, the collapse of Illinois' highest court, the Illinois Supreme Court. As the head of his group, Skolnick directly accused the high court judges of bribery involving a banker who owned a bank right across the street from the high court's Chicago offices. Facing jail and on appeal to their court, the banker, the former Illinois Director of the Department of Revenue, Theodore J. Isaacs, won his criminal appeal by bribing most of the high court judges with stock in his nearby bank. Outraged by Skolnick's direct confrontation with them, the high court judges demanded that Skolnick disclose to the high court judges how he and his associates went about investigating the high court. When Skolnick refused to disclose, the high court judges had Skolnick, a paraplegic invalid in a wheelchair, hauled off to prison for "contempt of court". The imprisoning of Skolnick touched off a public commotion and the chief justice and an associate justice of the high court resigned, and a third accused high court judge suddenly died in the ruckus and Skolnick was vindicated. Caught up in a further mess involving the same bank was the former Illinois Governor by 1969 he was a federal appeals Judge in Chicago. Skolnick accused that judge, Otto Kerner, Jr., of bribery as well. Kerner held press conferences and on all the local media called Skolnick a "liar". Despite his denials, Federal Appeals Judge Kerner was prosecuted and sent to prison, the highest level sitting federal judge sent to prison in U.S. history. Also imprisoned was Kerner's crony, former chief state tax collector Isaacs. Kerner died an ex-convict.

The work of Skolnick and his group touched off a series of bribery scandals by which from 1983 to 1993, 20 local judges and forty lawyers were sent to jail for bribery. Including: the Chief Judge of the Traffic court who said Skolnick with his accusations of bribery was "imagining" things. That Chief Judge was sent to prison for bribery and died an ex-convict.

In 1991, one sizeable conservative paper was the only one that dared run the story how Skolnick and his associates were the only journalists to attend a federal appeals court hearing in Chicago in a case involving suppressed bank records of the Chicago branch of Italy's largest bank, Banca Nazionale Delavoro, owned in part by the Vatican. The suppressed records, ordered so by state and federal regulators involved the secret private joint business partner of Iraqi strongman Saddam HUSSEIN.

After the hearing, in the back of the Federal Appeals Court, Skolnick interviewed two hearing participants who admitted to Skolnick that the suppressed bank records involved Saddam HUSSEIN'S private business partner, George Herbert Walker BUSH, the then U.S. President. Sources had earlier informed Skolnick of that, and Skolnick, to be careful, asked the same question about that THREE times and each time, the answer was the same: BUSH was the private business partner of Saddam HUSSEIN in billions of dollars of oil-kickbacks paid to Saddam HUSSEIN by the weak sheikdoms in the Persian Gulf. Skolnick is one of the only ones to have the more or less complete record on appeals in the case including the Affidavit of the CIA General Counsel, that revealing these matters would violate national security. The hearing participants said that revealing all this would cause a run on the banks worldwide and for that reason had to be suppressed.

In 1991, likewise published in that newspaper, "Spotlight", was Skolnick's exclusive story about the mysterious Bank of Credit and Commerce International: How the Bank of England for 30 days only had as a public record that BCCI bribed 25 per cent of both Houses of Congress, 108 Congressmen and 28 U.S. Senators.

Although Spotlight did not publish Skolnick's list of bribed lawmakers, other authors claiming they got such details by other means, published some of the names thereafter in Media Bypass Magazine. It was basically the list of names, supplied to Spotlight but omitted from the published article.

Since 1995, Skolnick has put on Internet, exclusive details of the small group of highly--patriotic admirals and generals have repeatedly but unsuccessfully sought, as authorized under the Military Code, to arrest their Commander-in-Chief Bill Clinton on their documented charges of treason. . .[THIS HAS BECOME HIS LONG RUNNING SERIES "THE OVERTHROW OF THE AMERICAN REPUBLIC, PARTS 1-40+ [A CONTINUING A POLITICAL COMMENTARY AND POLITICAL ANALYSIS OF THIS SLOW MOTION COUP AND COUNTER-COUP WHICH INVOLVES HIGH LEVEL INTRIGUE BETWEEN BUSH/CLINTON CRONIES VS. LOYAL CONSTITUTIONALIST AMERICANS IN GOVERNMENT AND THE MILITARY.]

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"THE OVERTHROW OF THE AMERICAN REPUBLIC," Part One
by Sherman H. Skolnick 09/22/01 [NOTE THE DATE]


Starting after the multiple bombings of the Federal office building in Oklahoma City, April 19, 1995, I wrote and then spoke on talk radio about an aborted military coup. Brought home to me, however, was the reality that my fellow Americans had little knowledge or understanding of the masterstroke, the overthrow of government, whether for the good or for evil.

In the past, had we as Americans been clearly informed by the popular press of a putsch, the overthrow of government by violence, by political assassination, such as to benefit domestic or foreign powers?

After all, who benefited from the political assassination of President Abraham Lincoln if not the British and the French who held the means to swoop upon us at the time from their entrenched positions to the south and north of us, in Canada and Mexico. The British wanted to split apart the nation by aggravating the natural friction between the ideas of the North and the South in America. The French were ready to carve up America as well.

Since at least the War of 1812, the British had plotted to take back this continent as a puppet colony with so-called "Americans" again as subjects of the British Crown. [To their credit, Czarist Russia at the time of the War Between The States, or as it's called, the American Civil War, attempted to aid Lincoln with the Czar's naval fleet coming right offshore the U.S.]

Look what happened in the decades after the murder of Lincoln. President James Garfield was against the British controlling the growing financial power of the U.S. President William McKinley [the Brits hate the Irish] opposed the British trying to strangle the rise of American industrial power. Their political assassination in the years after that of Lincoln, in its simplest explanation, benefited British attempts to grab back America.

Seldom, if ever, are these events explained in this way.

The Clinton White House with prior knowledge, allowed the Oklahoma bombings to occur, to restore his power following the debacle of the 1994 Congressional elections putting a GOP majority to confront him in Congress. [IF YOU WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION: watch Alex Jones' very empirically detailed documentary which includes DETAILED information on US GOVERNMENT COMPLICITY AND MEDIA DISINFORMATION on the Oklahoma City bombing: watch "9/11: The Road to Tyranny"  http://www.infowars.org ] And, with Clinton as a marionette, it aided the Establishment in their continuing propaganda to make common Americans helpless to oppose tyranny by disarming them.

[NOTE THE TIMING, THEY WANTED IMMEDIATE 1995 COUP THEN IT SEEMS AFTER THEIR ACT OF MASS ASSASSINATION TO COVER THEMSELVES] [Only] [t]wo days before the Oklahoma bloodshed, on April 17, 1995, a plane-load of top military brass were murdered when their sabotaged plane blew up near Alexander City, Alabama. It was a real life version of "Seven Days in May".

According to federal grand jurors we interviewed, there was an attempt, later blocked, by a grand jury to investigate this aborted coup.

It was actually part of a series of events involving twenty four Admirals and Generals, some of the most patriotic flag officers in the history of this Republic. They vowed, under the Uniform Military Code, to arrest their Commander-in-Chief Bill Clinton, for his various acts of treason aiding and abetting sworn enemies of the United States, such as Red China and Iraq. If Clinton had them arrested for mutiny, they were prepared, if not assassinated, to defend themselves with their heavily documented charges of his treachery against the U.S. Constitution and the people of the United States.

Some of the coup plotters, deciding to be out of uniform, took up residence in a Paris suburb. The French CIA, aware of all this, used it to blackmail advantages out of the U.S. government. Such as, to blockade the U.S. Justice Department, itself a highly corrupt entity, from prosecuting some fourteen French nationals, resident in the U.S., who stole U.S. industrial and financial secrets. [The French used similar blackmail threatening to publicize their knowledge of Iran's complicity in the missile attack on TWA Flight 800. Eight top officials of the French CIA along with some 60 other French nationals died in the plane that had been scheduled for Paris. A top official, however, of the French CIA at the last minute refused to board Flight 800. The Clinton White House had a secret business/peace deal pending with the Teheran oligarchs which the missile disclosures would have wrecked.]

The purpose of several [loyalist military officer] attempts to pull off a coup was NOT to install a junta [pronounced HOON-tah], that is, an evil military dictatorship. Rather, to restore by necessary force the American Republic, which has gone down hill since the overthrow, by the American secret political police, of the U.S. government, by way of the murder in 1963 of President John F. Kennedy.

In the months and years that followed the Alexander City incident, some ten like-minded Admirals, Generals, and other officials and former officials, were assassinated.

Such as, Admiral Jeremy Boorda, Chief of Naval Operations, the highest naval officer in uniform. Such as General David McCloud, head of the Alaska Military District. Such as, former Director of Central Intelligence, DCI, William Colby. Our interviews with their family members, relatives, and confidants convinces us of the validity of our reports. The monopoly press wrote off their demise as "airplane accidents", "suicide", and "boat accident".

Some of those hearing me on the radio, wrote to me. I could see right away, they had no understanding of the subject. One letter stated simply, "Mr. Skolnick, send me your papers on the koo [sic]." Evidently, this subject is not in the usual U.S. history text books in the usual high schools and colleges.

[As to the Iraqi connection, visit our website stories. Such as "U.S. Government Prior Knowledge of Emergency", "The Secrets of Timothy McVeigh". THE SECRETS OF TIMOTHY McVEIGH, by Sherman H. Skolnick 06/15/01  http://www.skolnicksreport.com/tmsecrets.html ; "U.S. GOVERNMENT PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF EMERGENCY", by Sherman H. Skolnick 09/11/01  http://www.skolnicksreport.com/tmsecrets.html ; "U.S. GOVERNMENT PRIOR KNOWLEDGE OF EMERGENCY", by Sherman H. Skolnick 09/11/01  link to www.skolnicksreport.com ]


Because of my analyses of the current emergency, I should, I suppose, expect to be heckled and reviled by some well-meaning but poorly informed fellow Americans. Notwithstanding the pronouncements of the American secret political police, the FBI and CIA, and the oil-soaked, spy-riddled monopoly press, and the White House, the plot to destroy the American republic is entirely based WITHIN THIS NATION.

It is obviously good and proper to respect the U.S. flag, perpetuated with the blood of American heroes. On the other hand, it can be a fatal mistake, a nuking of the Bill of Rights, not to recognize scoundrels who wrap themselves in the same flag to cover up their crimes against the American common people.

In its simplest form, the Persian Gulf War was just the falling out of former private business partners. [He introduces this as evidence of the business partner fallout:] I was the only journalist to be in attendance in 1991, at the hearing of a federal court case in Chicago. My exclusive interviews of the participants confirmed why certain bank records had to be concealed, the subject matter of the litigation.

They showed the secret private business partnership in the 1980s of George Herbert Walker Bush, President in 1991, and Saddam Hussein, the Iraqi strongman installed by Bush, starting when Bush was head of the secret police [the CIA] in 1976. [My exclusive highly detailed story ran in a populist newspaper, "Spotlight", August 19, 1991.]

Profoundly corrupt Chicago federal appeals judges put the case out of court and the file has been scattered to the wind. We apparently are the only ones still having the court file. [Visit our website story, "The Secrets of Timothy McVeigh", for the name and number of the case and details of the judges.]

The Elder Bush during the Gulf War, wanted the American public to falsely believe that putting the head of Saddam Hussein on a platter and delivering it to the White House, would cure every domestic and foreign problem of the U.S. On July 17, 1993, Saddam Hussein murdered some ten of his top military officers who were plotting, he said, to overthrow him. [He was likely able to do this because...]

The Clinton White House, with Bill Clinton as a Bush Family crony, had apparently committed treachery in leaking CIA details to Saddam of the [CIA] plot against him. Working on investigating both Clinton and Bush as to this treasonous leak, was FBI Director William Sessions who was unceremoniously sacked on frivolous charges two days later, all to protect the treachery from being disclosed of Bush/Clinton.

The very next day, Vincent W. Foster, Jr., Clinton White House Deputy Counsel, who also knew what had happened, was assassinated and clumsily disguised as a "suicide". The aborted plot against Saddam did not become even a watered down version of what happened, in the U.S. monopoly press, until November 1, 1993. [See, "U.S. Accused of Betraying Plot To Kill Iraq's Hussein", Chicago Tribune, 11/1/93.]

In 1991, the Elder Bush, as President, put some half a million Americans in harm's way, by way of Bush instigating a fight over Gulf oil properties with his former business partner, Saddam Hussein.

Together, in the 1980s, as known to the participants in the lawsuit mentioned, Saddam and Bush, as business partners, split billions of dollars extorted from the oil-soaked weak sheikdoms of the Persian Gulf. The same as done by gangsters who would extract "protection money" from shopkeepers and tax-cheating auto dealers.

As a sizeable stockholder of a unit of a French firm, American LaFarge, the Elder Bush was implicated in reportedly supplying the ingredients for poison gas to be manufactured by Iraq, to be used against Iraq's domestic dissidents, namely, the Kurds, as well as against the Iranians, during the Iran-Iraq War, 1980 to 1988.

A Director of American LaFarge, naturally, was Hillary Rodham Clinton, wife of the Bush Family pal.

Ten years after 1991, the Elder Bush's son, as "resident" and "occupant" of the White House, installed under highly suspect means, is going to war AGAINST HIS reputed former business partner, Osama bin Laden. Like father, like son. George W. Bush's business partner has been a Houston, Texas businessman, James R. Bath. Together, they owned an oil drilling company, Arbusto Energy. [The son, like his father, likes to name his businesses with Spanish names. The Elder Bush named his firm Zapata Petroleum, later, Zapata Offshore, with 600 units worldwide as outposts for the American CIA [and drug running bases worldwide, safely in international waters], starting as early as 1959. The younger Bush's Arbusto is Spanish for "Bush".]

By and through James R. Bath, George W. Bush has been a business partner, in the tens of millions of dollars, with Osama bin Laden and his father. As an example, Bath had many millions of dollars of dealings with the Elder bin Laden who was part of the infamous spy/assassination/money laundry scandal of Bank of Credit and Commerce International, BCCI.

See the details in "The Outlaw Bank---A Wild Ride Into The Secret Heart of BCCI", by Jonathan Beaty and S.C. Gwynne, Random House, New York, 1993, pages 227-230.

Notice in our prior story about the Emergency, the details of Osama bin Laden's secret joint accounts (stemming from the George W. Bush/James R. Bath/bin Laden business partnerships) in the Harris Bank, a unit of Bank of Montreal, owned largely by the [Prohibition-era wealth of the alcohol smuggling[ Bronfman Family [who were sponsored by the British Crown--see EIR's Dope, Inc.], who have been the owners of the Seagram's booze cartel, and another major owner of the bank being U.S. Senator Peter Fitzgerald (R., Ill.).

The U.S. units of Barclays Bank, United Kingdom, have also sought to conceal such reputed joint accounts of Osama bin Laden/James R. Bath/George W. Bush. [Barclays Bank is gone: this 200+ year old very-well politically connected British bank was taken down in a stock market derivitives crash brought on by overzealous extension into these derivatives markets.]

Who can believe the White House when they say they would freeze Osama bin Laden's accounts if they can find them? Also please notice, in my exclusive story about the Elder Bush/Saddam Hussein business partnership, the banks involved were Banca Nazionale del Lavoro, BNL, owned in part by the Vatican, and its bank twin, BCCI. [My exclusive story in "Spotlight", 8/19/91.]

So, father and son, ten years apart, George Herbert Walker Bush and George W. Bush, went to war or are going to war against their former [or current] business partners. Throughout history, regimes have created an "enemy", as a straw man, and then sent their armies to fight their "enemy". This by way of consolidating their power and diverting attention from their domestic problems, and repressing the poorly informed populace.

From the sarcastic standpoint of those who rule us WITHOUT OUR CONSENT, in violation of the U.S. Constitution, America is becoming too populated for there to be supposedly guaranteed rights. Remember, the Bill of Rights is heavily packed with the word NO. It is a shield against a tyrannical central government. At the hands, however, of a corrupt and venal federal judiciary and a treasonous central government, and a bought off and blackmailed Congress, the Bill of Rights is a worthless, useless piece of paper. The cowardly mass media are mere scriveners, writing down what they are dictated.

Under the disguise of leading a religious "crusade" against the Moslem world, every utterance dripping with the word "terrorist", are the ruling elites in the process of overthrowing the American Republic?

Who all benefited from treasonous prior knowledge of the violence against America on September 11, 2001? Are some flag officers in the U.S. military, with full knowledge of all this, opposed to going to a war instigated by the highest circles WITHIN THE UNITED STATES?

More coming. Stay tuned.

UPDATE: Since 1995, ten of the original 24 flag officers as coup plotters were assassinated [that does NOT include those snuffed out April 17, 1995]. One of those murdered was General David McCloud, head of the Alaska Military District. Another one was Admiral Jeremy Boorda, Chief of Naval Operations, highest naval officer in uniform. [For some historical and traditional reasons, the U.S. Navy Officers and the Office of Naval Intelligence have to be at least in part, in charge of any attempt to arrest the Commander-in-Chief for treason.] [In the Neocon Pentagon hit: "The Navy reported that 33 sailors and officers, along with nine civilians, remained missing. They worked in a variety of offices, including the Navy's operation center, which was damaged in the attack. Ten other missing people were from other defense agencies, including seven from the Defense Intelligence Agency."? ("Pentagon toll at 190," New York Times, September 14, 2001, [These were among some of the Navy people who exposed the Zionist spy Johnathan Pollard. It is typically forgotten what Pollard's position was during his 17 months of passing documents to Israel/Mossad: Navy intelligence analyst. In The Other Side of Deception, Victor Ostrovsky writes about another Israeli intelligence unit, the Lishka Le Kishry Mada, which he describes as "the section for scientific relations, a special unit directly under the prime minister's office..." The Lishka Le Kishry Mada ("LAKAM") was the agency that recruited Jonathan Pollard. "Sayanim" (term for the network of lay people who support Israel covert operations--typically against their own country) within the Pentagon gave the LAKAM case manager sources, and Pollard was directed to bring out the hard copy. (The Other Side of Deception, Victor Ostrovsky, Harper Paperbacks, New York, 1995; pgs. 33, 34.) http://www.ocregister.com/breakingnews/attack/09142001/14nypentacci.shtml
cached at:  http://www.public-action.com/911/rescue/obq-nyt-09-14-2001 ]


In Part 8 of this series, we mention the Split in the American aristocracy that has to be considered. Also to be figured into the equation, is a coup for public good or one for evil.


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"THE OVERTHROW OF THE AMERICAN REPUBLIC", Part Eight
by Sherman H. Skolnick 4/7/02


"THE SPLIT IN THE AMERICAN ARISTOCRACY"

Seldom are we reminded. Certainly not by the monopoly press. That those who rule us, do so ONLY with our consent. Without a line-up of tanks in the streets, without a declaration of martial law, this basic premise of the American Republic has been overthrown.

By installing THEIR CHOICE to sit on the throne of power, a five-person military-style junta has nullified the Social Compact, the bedrock of America's organic Law, the U.S. Constitution and the Bill of Rights. U.S. Supreme Court Associate Justice Antonin Scalia, in Bush versus Gore, December, 2000, arrogantly proclaimed that Americans have no fundamental right to VOTE for President of the United States of America. Rather, he haughtily announces, we only have the limited right to pick Presidential Electors who, in turn, declare who is to be the occupant and resident of the Oval Office. Left out is that this procedure has become an automatic lever. With only the rarest exception, the Electors select the presidential ballot candidate to which they are pledged. Few voters are ever able to name or identify the "Presidential Electors", or where, if any place, the "Electoral College" meets in the December following a presidential election.

In a time warp, Scalia, part of what some call "The Gang of Five", may well have sat on Hitler's Supreme Court and himself, later, brought to Justice by the Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunal. Considered by knowledgeable sorts as a sinister creature of Rockefeller's University of Chicago Law School, where he was a professor, Scalia as judge has failed to reveal in his mandatory annual financial disclosure that he represents the billion dollar stock portfolio of that oil-soaked edifice of the ruling class.

And America's press whores, having become as infamous as those of the Third Reich, are not about to tell us there has developed a split in the American Aristocracy. [First, read "Captive Press in the Third Reich", by Oron J. Hale, paperback, 1964. Then, notice the frightening similarity in "The Media Monopoly With a New Preface on the Internet and Telecommunications Cartels", by Ben H. Bagdikian et al., paperback, 2000. A press dictatorship, then as now.]

SECTION ONE OF THE RULING CLASS

1. To divert attention from an expected financial meltdown, with George W. Bush as their agent, this faction intends to conduct, or is conducting, a "War Against Terrorism". Yet, a growing body of evidence shows there was prior knowledge, at the highest level, of Black Tuesday, September 11, 2001. AND, that the "Arabs", if any, were not principal players. This faction, if allowed, permitted, and condoned, to do as they wish, would bomb, blast, and attack, Iraq, Iran, Syria, North Korea, among others on their list of "enemies".

2. What worries this faction is not Baghdad's ability, or not, to launch diabolical weapons, if any, against the U.S. subject to massive retaliation. Rather, Iraq has incriminating documents, available to be disclosed to world opinion, proving the Bush Crime Family had been a private business partner with Iraqi strongman, Saddam Hussein, jointly conducting a huge financial shakedown, extracting in the 1980s a trillion dollars from the weak, oil-soaked sheikdoms of the Persian Gulf. And that the Persian Gulf conflict and War, 1990-1991, was simply a falling out of private business partners. The result of the War being some one hundred thousand U.S. casualties, in the form of strange illnesses, called Gulf War Syndrome of ex-GIs. Fifteen thousand of our military, not previously sick, died shortly after the end of the short conflict. Eighty Five Thousand are deathly sick, together with their wives, even their childen, and yes, even their dogs and cats. In public statements, the American Establishment has been, as to this, in total denial.

[An unpublicized federal suit in Chicago dealt with the bank records of the secret partnership between the Bush Family and Saddam Hussein. See our website item "The Secrets of Timothy McVeigh" as to the records of Banca Nazionale Del Lavoro, BNL, Italy's largest bank, owned in part by the Vatican. Keep this in mind as to details of Section Two of the American Ruling Class.]

3. As historically true, dictators, or would-be dictators, cover up their financial failings by instigating wars. On occasion, they secretly create "enemies", such as by the American CIA, and then proceed to rally the nation to demonize and attack "them". Such as the Bush Crime Family while in business with the bin Laden Family including Osama who is NOT on the outs with his family. [Visit our website details about the Carlyle Group and others.] In plain terms, Hitler-types seek to cover up their evil by wrapping themselves in the flag and having the captive instruments of communications play "patriotic" war music.

SECTION TWO OF THE RULING CLASS

4. How do you stop an occupant of the Oval Office that your faction opposes? Someone, for example, that you secretly whisper or otherwise, and accuse, of being a "Communist" stooge, or soft on the Moscow regime? Well, you can, just after high noon, conduct a public execution, by military-style triangulating firing, blowing out his brains in an open car, part of a Presidential motorcade. And then, quickly blaming it all on a "lone assassin", a CIA-created patsy. There has sprung up since Dallas, November 22, 1963, about two hundred assassination researchers in North America (of which this writer is one). Their eagle-eyed scrutiny quickly flushes out dirty bloody business disguised as the work of "lone nuts".

So the Texas-style JFK scenario does not work so well anymore.

5. Another sure-fire way is to take advantage of cracks in the financial wonderworks of a would-be dictator. That is, begin to publicly confront him and his gang with a series of financial horrors to which he is directly linked and by which his circle is financed.

6. George W. Bush and Richard Cheney, are directly linked to a whole series of financial scandals. Until he ran for Vice President, Cheney was CEO of Halliburton, the worldwide oil machinery octopus. Through their Dresser Industries unit, they supplied such items to Iraq, aiding them to unlawfully break the embargo. The Dresser unit has been controlled by Daddy Bush. In simple terms, they committed treason. They gave aid and comfort to someone they now contend (although previously their secret private business partner) is a sworn "enemy" of the United States. Could they defend themselves by showing that with their aid and connivance, the American CIA created and nurtured Saddam as a convenient "enemy"? That is, that the Baghdad strongman has been created by agents of a section of the American ruling class?

7. George Bush the Younger is directly implicated in the dirty work of Enron. Their four thousand offshore "partnerships", kept off the books and more or less "secret", laundered the proceeds of illicit dealings---dope trafficking, gold smuggling, weapons shipments to "terrorists"----done by the Bush Crime Family. [For documented links to the Bush Family's 25 secret worldwide accounts, see our website series, "Greenspan Aids and Bribes Bush". Included there is the document, the Federal Reserve secret wire transfer, under the code of Fed Chief Greenspan, showing ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS laundered through the Bush Crime Family's joint account with the Queen of England at her private bank, Coutts Bank London. Recently, the Queen ordered a top official of her private bank to become an official of the Bush Family-linked Carlyle Group where Daddy Bush has been a paid consultant to the bin Laden Family, including Osama who is NOT on the outs with his family. "The Queen has a new bank manager, following the departure of Andrew Fisher, chief executive of Coutts, TO THE CARLYLE GROUP, the US private equity firm." Financial Times of London, December 19, 2001 (emphasis added.)

As to Enron being closely aligned with the Federal Reserve, A Knight-Ridder newspaper chain story, breaking ranks with censorship of the monopoly press, had a story from their Washington Bureau, datelined Houston, headlined "Enron scandal touches Fed; Central Bank asked to save documents". March 7, 2002. Notice this "Both Kenneth Lay and Jeff Skilling, former Enron chief executives, met with Fed Chairman Alan Greenspan and other staff members over the past two years, AND SKILLING SERVED AS A DIRECTOR FOR A FEDERAL RESERVE BRANCH BANK IN HOUSTON". (Emphasis added.) [See related details in our website Enron series. The Knight-Ridder chain story tends to in part corroborate our story about the Fed secretly siphoning off huge Enron funds to temporarily support the Dow Jones 30 Industrials as a psychological barometer.]

8. The second section of the Ruling Class consists, among others, of the French Rothschilds who for over two centuries have been the traditional bankers for the Vatican. And the Holy See is in a position, as a major owner of BNL (mentioned earlier), to have the documents of the secret partnership between the Bush Family and Saddam Hussein.

9. Little-known is that Arthur Andersen as auditors and consultants have had a client specialty, servicing enterprises run by prominent Catholics, particularly Irish Catholics. Traditionally, the senior partner running the law firm representing Arthur Andersen, has been R. Sargent Shriver, part of the Kennedy Family of Boston and Hyannisport.

So is it more than just a coincidence? That to divert attention from Bush/Cheney and their direct complicity with Enron, that a few Catholic priests are scandalized as having many years ago sexually molested choir boys? These sudden disclosures have targeted Boston, Chicago, and Los Angeles, among others. Is it a coincidence, that these are centers of large numbers of voters for the Democrat Party and presidential candidates that are Democrats? The whispers about some priests have been going on for centuries. Why now? The monopoly press has trumpeted this story on signal. Such as Time Magazine's cover story, "CAN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH SAVE ITSELF?" April 1, 2002. [Visit our website story on Enron, Part 6.]

10. Another attack against Section One of the Ruling Class caused the bankruptcy of Global Crossings, implicating Bush/Cheney. Is it a coincidence that Arthur Andersen is in the middle of that?

11. Another attack on the financial underpinnings of the Bush Crime Family is the sudden attack on General Electric, contending defective book-keeping. Until now, with one exception, G.E. has been a sacred cow, not to be disturbed. But see what the Gore Family did to General Electric, 1961, in getting the head of G.E. jailed for Anti-Trust violations in the Electric Conspiracy Cases. See our website item, Enron, Part 5. G.E. financed Ronald Reagan, Daddy Bush, and Bush the Younger. G.E., by the way, financed the rise of Adoph Hitler. See, "Wall Street and the Rise of Hitler" by Antony Sutton. Also, the Bush Family committed treason in America, World War Two, for Hitler. See, "George Bush the Unauthorized Biography" by Webster G. Tarpley et al., paperback, 1991.

12. The growing and evident split in the American aristocracy has to be considered from the historical standpoint of Protestant versus Catholic [as well]. A heavily documented recent book summarizes on its jacket, the work of the author "His labors have rewarded us with valuable new proofs of a vast Roman Catholic substratum to American history. Evidence suggests that Jesuits played eminent and under-appreciated roles in moving the complacent New Englanders to rebel against their mother country in 1776. Indeed, according to Saussy's discoveries, the American Revolution and its resulting constitutional republic may have been largely the outworking of an ingenious Jesuit strategy single-handedly designed and supervised by a true founding father few Americans have ever heard of---Lorenzo Ricci. With Ricci comes a whole host of hitherto little-known names such as Robert Bellarmine, Joseph Amiot, the Dukes of Norfolk, Daniel Coxe, Sun-Tzu, Lord Bute, Francis Thorpe, Nikolaus von Hontheim, and the Carrolls, Daniel, Charles, and John. 'In their way', writes Saussy, 'these men were as essential to our constitutional origins as Jefferson, Paine, Adams, Washington, Locke,and George III." "Rulers of Evil---Useful Knowledge About Governing Bodies", by F. Tupper Saussy, Ospray Bookmakers, Reno, Nevada, 1999. As the book points out, for a hundred years before it became a "federal city" and then District of Columbia, the land there was called "Rome". "Subdividing the federal city, or District of Columbia, into plats was the task of an artistic Parisian engineer named Pierre-Charles L'Enfant. According to Dr. James Walsh in his book 'American Jesuits', L'Enfant got the job through the intercession of his priest, John Carroll. L'Enfant was a Freemason. He subdivided the city in a brilliant array of cabalistic symbols and numerics." After detailing L'Enfant's cabalistic drawing of D.C. as an upside down pentagram, the book states "But L'Enfant's pentagram points downward, forming the shape of Baphomet, the gnostic 'absorption-into-wisdom' goat's-head icon of the Knights Templar. Gnostic historian Manly Hall says the upside-down pentagram 'is used extensively in black magic' and 'always signifies a perverted power.' The Baphomet imposed upon the federal city by Pierre-Charles L'Enfant puts the mouth of this 'perverted power' exactly at the White House." Saussy's book, pages 227-228.

13. Notice these details. A sizeable number of those occupying the World Trade Center towers on Black Tuesday, consisted of investment firms where the bulk of those working there were Irish Catholics and Jews. For example, the wholesale U.S. Treasury Security firm, Cantor Fitzgerald. Of the seven hundred there that morning, not a single one survived, primarily all Irish Catholics and Jews. Of the more than 300 New York firemen who died in the collapse of the towers, the bulk of them were Irish Catholics. Remember the Nazi-anti-Jewish background of the Bush Family. And the Bush Crime Family and their joint account for illicit purposes with the Queen of England. Do I have to re-invent the wheel of history, to prove the Queen is on the outs with the Irish Catholics?

14. Will the Split in the American Aristocracy become more and more evident? And will it be along religious lines, including Protestant versus Catholic?

More coming. Stay tuned.

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Plausible, but - 29.Feb.2004 03:35

even though I respect Skolnick

(and Alex Jones, John Kaminski), Donn de Grand-Pre was hinting at this sort of rift within Pentagon staff back in September 2001, when the initial real doubts about 9-11's "official story" emerged.

where's the beef?

and when's the 'countercoup' gonna happen? before Nov. 2004?

while he's *right on* about the money trail/Enron/Global Crossing, bin Laden/Carlyle, Supreme VoteFraud Florida 2000, Bu$hGulfWar I, and the power elite connections here, the 'Aristocratic/religious split' and other stuff in this article is typical Skolnick unsubstantiated speculation.

e.g. as far as Skolnick's 'oil-soaked monopoly press' (love that phrase) suddenly exposing Catholic priest pedophilia for a Bu$hDiversion - what about the corporate media role in Bu$hGayMarriage? why now?

the April 17, 1995 US military brass plane explosion (see movie 'Wag The Dog' for inference), Adm. Jeremy Boorda and former CIA Director William Colby "suicides", Gen. David McCloud sabotaged plane crash, etc. are significant, though. THOSE stories deserve A LOT WIDER coverage.

Right fuckin' on... 29.Feb.2004 06:17

AA

While I support a military coup of the present corrupt system, I would hate to see a military dictatorship. Could we find a way to get our National Guardsmen to stand up? COuld we find a way to declare sovereignty from the corporations and the military while wtill retaining our freedoms? COuld we perhaps declare a free cascadia? Or maybe simply reset the constitution?

Then I woke up....

But for some reason I still have my gun.

I wouldn't pooh pooh this too much... 29.Feb.2004 10:50

as I've heard from "friends" on the

inside that such is about to HAPPEN and soon too!

You'll find out about it when "they" suddenly do a BREAKING NEWS with drum roll, and the usual
flash-bang bullshit that hallmarks TV-news, and an unfamilar face is giving a speech while he
seated at the desk in the Oval Office telling us that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfield, et al are then
on their way to GUTMO down in Cuba, and that there is "changes" forthcoming, and to stay tuned
for MORE....

A "friend" told me so....

More lethal spectacle 29.Feb.2004 20:54

Author of Comment

While Alex Jones & other investigative/conspiracy minded journalists have knowledge of the corruption & manipulation undertaken by the Bush-Cheney regime, they fall short in many ways from offering a clear way out of our dilemma. There is this veiled anti-semitic, anti-bolshevik, anti-UN rhetoric being thrown around, which is partially based on unspoken assumptions about what so-called 'real' Americans can/will do in this context. Military tribunals for corporate crook murderers wouldn't make me cry per-se, but to look to the murderous high-tech U.S. military to 'save us' from the Bush regime is outright dangerous & illusory if you care about freedom...
The Pentagon and the White House might be feuding in secret, but that doesn't mean that I will support either one, both of whom have proven themselves to support interests that are opposed to the free individual & empowered community. I don't want the military to control this land under the pretext of 'saving us.' It's more lethal spectacle that keeps us watching for further news, more evidence that our lives are out of our control, and that we can expect more behind-the-scenes manipulation to be undertaken supposedly in 'our interests.'
Bush regime, Pentagon--they are not my friends, they are not friends of the world. I want real community & freedom, not power struggles based on capitalism & war....

A.o.C.

It could happen. 29.Feb.2004 20:57

S

I get email from the US military regarding my website (to remain anonymous). If what they send me is true, Bush and his Junta are very much hated. I have other sources that support the position that Bush is seen as a fascist idiot by the US military. There is also a sense that the US government is no longer working on behalf of the US. Anything is possible.

A Birdie BIRD told 01.Mar.2004 10:23

me

that something really "important" is going to happen on March 22, 2004. Guess what? It's
crying time for some in Washington, DC it would appear! But, for some it'll be dancing in
the streets singing "Happy Days are Here Again!"....

my daughter who's done work at the Pentagon, tell's 01.Mar.2004 11:21

me

that something "big" is going to happen around March 21st or 22nd and to be near a TV both days

She had to tell you to be near the tv? 01.Mar.2004 14:57

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Like as if something really big happened and you wouldn't find out about it unless you were near the tv?

Like as if anyone in this country isn't near a tv?

my grandson told me to be prepared for big changes in America 01.Mar.2004 16:56

during March 2004

and it would involve the military...certain elements anyway...that are determined to restore
true democracy in America and re-right the wrongs done as result of the Bush-Cheney-hawknosed
warhawk's junta of 09-11-01. I'm hoping they'll properly install our REAL President, Al Gore
to his rightful place in the Oval Office, and I wouldn't be surprised if they did too!

Bullshit say I 01.Mar.2004 20:12

josb

Give me a break! No one else out there is reporting this nonsense about March 21 or 22... Give me one semi credible source to this bovine excrement.

j

here 01.Mar.2004 22:11

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"Give me one semi credible source to this bovine excrement."

Why, Indymedia of course. ;-)
And all these comments. And the facts mentioned above.
And your desperate attempt to spin it as well.

What? you trust CNN, that has had Army Psyops in it during wartime? Plllllllllleeeeeeeezzzzzzzzeeeee.

letter to the sheltered 04.Mar.2004 09:52

a3m, social libertarian

re:"There is this veiled anti-semitic, anti-bolshevik, anti-UN rhetoric being thrown around, which is partially based on unspoken assumptions about what so-called 'real' Americans can/will do in this context. Military tribunals for corporate crook murderers wouldn't make me cry per-se, but to look to the murderous high-tech U.S. military to 'save us' from the Bush regime is outright dangerous & illusory if you care about freedom..."

I also read with laughter, the bit about the military puting Gore 'in his rightfull position- the presidency.'

My contentions; The Mil knows they are not empowered to declare a president. To do so would be contrary to restoring rule of law. They would merely pull a coup, then refer the situation to we the people. The mil believes in we the people, even if the neo-cons and the radicals don't. Ditto for rule of law.

There IS anti bolshevick, and anti UN rhetoric. Those who are surprised have no understanding of where these "real Americans" are "coming from" Hint- not from "progressive circles. Anti-semetic? that is a question beyond repair in our discourses.

Don't hold yr breath waiting for mil-tribunals of corporate crooks- again it's that the mil understands rule of law, apparently the posting party does not care about that "detail" and would love the mil to do his extralegal wish list for him/her. Another disciple of the ends justifies the means- aka bully.

As for "murderous" Us mil- that's a position which has merit. But keep in mind the traditional acceptance of orders and agenda duly passed from the civil rulers. Mil people assume good intentions, are loathe to question authority. Mostly, they labor under false beliefs that the orders are moral (kill to save- self defense is moral) and that they are used to further liberty. Like cops they believe they are doing good. The tact should be to set them free of illusion, not change their morality- just the applications and passive acceptance of orders.

The US mil has murdered. This does not translate that the personnell in that mil system are , personally, murderously inclined. They are just like the rest of us, peace activists included. No large group is undiferentiated.

Perhaps you should read some of the "right wing" sites. Read the ones which state "if tyrany ever comes to America, it will come in uniform." Oh, perhaps you still buy alll the mainstream lies that came out about the Militia Movement. Evil, racists....all that stuff from the same sources you revile for lying about YOUR beliefs.

Right, then... 07.Apr.2004 19:43

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