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here is a freshly unique perspective on RALPH NADER that will cause you

I've been a Ralph-fan from the '60s, voted for him in 2000, but frankly,
I did have some nagging questions in the back of my mind about the guy.
I just couldn't shake them. Just a while ago I came across this article
while trolling Jeff Rense's website, and I began to briefly scan it to
find debunkers points to take it apart. BUT, I slowed down, reread it
and then reread it again, and again a third time. I'm glad I did, as it
has answered the questions I've long had about Ralph. YOU OWE IT TO
YOURSELF TO READ IT...STUDY IT...BUT DO NOT IGNORE IT, AS IT RINGS TRUE!

an Ex-Ralph-fan!
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Overthrow Of The
American Republic - Part 49
Ralph Nader And The Ruling Class
By Sherman H. Skolnick
CloakandDagger.ca
2-23-4


There are certain more or less censored or forbidden subjects. And if one writes on the same, an author can flunk a popularity test. Why? One simple, but incomplete reason, is that too many inhabitants of North America believe in fairy tales. If the monopoly press designates someone as their "hero", not enough peons are suspicious. This article may qualify to put me on the "crap list" of acceptable commentators.

[1] About thirty five years ago, Ralph Nader had a group of purportedly "idealistic" young men and women. He dubbed them "Nader's Raiders". One part of that group in the Chicago area met occasionally at my house. In my own sly way, I quizzed them. Who are these folks crusading supposedly against the "Establishment"? All of them were young law students or beginning lawyers. But crucial to my understanding of them, they were moreover, I quietly discovered, the sons and daughters of the ultra rich.

Among my close pals, I called such persons "RBs", short for rich bitches. In my own way, I went down my list of what I urged them to do. INVESTIGATE BANKER-JUDGES. I got a blank look. RUNAWAY COURT CORRUPTION. Another blank. Expose the war-mongering mostly private huge Universities. "Nader's Raider's" absolutely not interested. INVESTIGATE THE CIA/FBI's AGENTS PROVOCATEURS. They dismissed the idea.

I tried not to show my suspicion. Privately, I discovered directly that they simply wanted to correct some of the more blatant misdeeds of the Ruling Class, "the powers that be", the Establishment---in other words THEIR elders. That is control perpetuated by a play for time, continuing problems of the system to a generation or more hence, if ever remedied by drastic measures.
[2] Ralph Nader was good at planting phantasies. Such as, that he lived in a cold-water flat, paid almost nothing per month for it, and lived on a very reduced financial level. All of it complete rubbish. Very credible sources contended he had a friend who on occasion drove him around in their Rolls Royce. Nader lived secretly in luxury houses. See: "Me and Ralph: Is Nader Unsafe for America" by David Sanford, New Republic Books, 1976.

[3] For thirty years and more, he has been an extremely high-paid visiting lecturer at the very universities identified as the center of the "war industry", as documented in the book "The Closed Corporation", by James Ridgeway, 1969 (those familiar with the subject, say little has changed since the book was first published). Ralph Nader was paid between fifteen thousand to thirty thousand dollars honoraria for each speech, which took up about ninety minutes of his time on the lecture platform. Nader received speaking fees over two hundred fifty thousand dollars annually, even in the 1970s.

By the year 2000, when he ran as a candidate for President on the Green Party third party ticket, his lecture income was about just short of a half a million dollars a year. As required by election regulations to be divulged.

[4] Calling it the "Green Party" should be a dead giveaway of what they are about. Basically, their idea of the world, at least as I understand it from having in years past talked to Green Party officials, is that so-called "left-wingers", those truly devoted to workers' rights as against bosses, are the "Reds". That is union members, labor activists, and such, are immediately thought of as dreaded "Communists" whether they espouse anything like Marxism or not. In simple form, it is the "Greens", presumably "anti-Communists" versus "The Communists". I suspect some Green Party supporters will hollar me down on my analysis of the situation.

Nader busted the Union of his own low-paid workers. "Anti Labor Chapter Surfaces in Nader's Past", by Heather Szerlag, Pacifica Radio News, 10/31/2000. "Union Buster? THE NADER?" by Nick Mamatas, Greenwich Village Gazette, Vol.5, #44, 9/15/2000. "Editors Claim Firing by Nader Based on Unionizaion Attempt" by Peter Perl, Washington Post, 6/28/1984, page B 3. As to his group, Public Citizen,Inc., Nader refused to divulge their finances, although required by law. "Public Citizen's Non-Disclosure", Wall Street Journal, 3/17/1992, page A 14.

[5] By the time of his mandatory disclosure as presidential candidate in the year 2000 campaign, Ralph Nader had about three million dollars in high-tech industry stock, primarily firms into war electronics for the Pentagon. Nader amassing money sources. Ralph Nader's official financial disclosure for year 2000. Open Secrets web site. "Inside Nader's Stock Portfolio" by Jake Tapper, Salon Magazine, 10/28/2000. "Mr. Nader's Conglomerate" (editorial), Wall Street Journal, 4/17/1980, page 26. "Ralph Nader, Inc.", Forbes Magazine, 9/17/1999, pages 119, 122. Nader amassed his fortune by speculating on the very stocks of corporations he condemned. "Abuse of Trust: A Report on Ralph Nader's Network", by Dan Burt, Regnery Gateway publishers, Chicago, 1982.

[6] From about 1969 into the 1970s, I gave lectures and seminars all over the U.S. on the subject of "agent provocateurs" and war-mongers and war- profiteers. This was at small junior colleges, which were mostly trade schools for working class students; and student government sponsored lectures at State Universities. These lectures were often vigorously opposed by faculty members who wanted to silence me. Placards announcing my upcoming speeches often were torn down by mysterious forces.

I cannot forget the speech I was scheduled to give at a junior college in a Chicago suburb. My court-reform group was to receive, for my lecture, seventy-five dollars (a laughable sum by Nader standards). It was toward the close of the Viet Nam War. At the last minute, the college President revoked the seventy-five dollar budget.

Into his office came several disgruntled students, ex-GIs, still wearing their Marine outfits but with Peace symbols painted on their back. They told the junior college boss, "Look, we want Skolnick to give us the low-down on the war-mongers. We learned in Nam how to blow up places. Restore the f---ing money, or we're going to level this place with you in it." They wore the same outfits to my speech.

Later, over supper with them, they told me all about it. I asked, "How did you survive being so shot at in Nam?" They answered, "We slept near the rice paddies and told the Lt. that HE should be point man on night patrol and most likely go home himself in a body bag."

"Then what?" I asked. "If he did not listen, we late at night threw a grenade into his tent. (Called 'fragging', apparently from the word fragmentation.) And if he survived, we said 'Lt., it was the little V.C.woman doing your laundry. SHE did it.' "

I understand that "fragging" U.S. officers is happening in Iraq by the "grunts".
[7] Nader, a lawyer, apparently never openly discusses the situation with THIRD PARTY candidates in America. They are obstructed from having equal ballot access by a thick forest of State laws. And the U.S. Supreme Court, traditionally made up of zillionaires on behalf of the Ruling Class, has repeatedly refused to strike down these obstructions.

Europe, to their credit, does NOT block third, fourth, and even fifth party candidates from sitting in their Parliaments. By way of a defect in the U.S. Constitution, the highest Executive, the President, is NOT required to come before the Parliament, that is Congress, to be regularly if not daily grilled and even, if necessary, heckled as to his policies, as a Prime Minister is before a Parliament.

In the annual State of the Union speech, the President is not questioned in Congress by anyone present there. On that extremely rare occasion of Resolutions of Impeachment in the House, followed by a Senate Impeachment Trial, the President is not required to attend to give oral testimony or answers.

In a Parliament system, the Prime Minister has to appear almost daily to be grilled if not heckled by the "back-benchers". He must organize votes above a certain number to introduce any legislation.

Does Nader ever comment on the arithmetic of American law? Notice. Canada has about thirty million population. And they have about three hundred representatives in their Lower House.
GET THIS. AMERICA, with about THREE HUNDRED MILLION POPULATION, has just 435 Representatives in the Lower House, and 100 Senators in the U.S. SENATE. Most every Representative and Senator is a lawyer and/or represents huge financial interests, not the ordinary person in their back-home district.

Among 535 that purport to represent Americans THERE IS CURRENTLY JUST ONE "INDEPENDENT", a great rarity to have even one. NOT A SINGLE THIRD PARTY CANDIDATE is generally permitted to sit in Congress.

I have particular insight into this. In the 1960s and 1970s, in Illinois, on behalf of myself as a voter, and on behalf of all voters similarly situated, I brought and won vast class action Reapportionment suits as to most every type of State and U.S. election district. My suits were on the basis of scrapping the then-current mal-apportioned districts and applying the doctrine of ONE MAN, ONE VOTE, each district re-drawn to have, within a very few per cent, equal population. The federal judges on occasion violently opposed me. In my suit against the Mayor & City Council of Chicago, to re-district the fifty city Wards into equal population voting districts, and open the way for blacks and latinos to have equal representation; I accused the Chief Judge of the Court, assigned to my case, of being beholden to gangsters in that the Chief Judge was a Director of the gangster-originated Albert Parvin Foundation. The Chief Judge in 1967, falsely told his bailiffs I was a "vioient,

dangerous" person, and two bailiffs in his courtroom, without provocation, grabbed hold of my wheelchair and tried to turn it upside down with me in it. Eighteen mass media reporters were witnesses to the same but did not report it. The situation became an assault and battery case by me. The higher court said I am not entitled to any remedy even though there was no proof I was a "violent, dangerous" person. [Skolnick vs. Guadagno, et al., U.S. Court of Appeals, 7th Circuit case.]

[8] For more than 12 years, I conducted a one-hour weekly, public access Cable TV Show, cablecast within the City Limits of Chicago, to upwards of 400,000 viewers. In many election periods, we put on Third Party candidates, often completely ignored by the monopoly press. I found most of such candidates to be intellectually superior compared to what the Establishment offered the public by way of two parties, the candidates of which are generally bought and sold.
The press-fakers, generally, if forced to depict a Third Party candidate, BUT NOT THEIR BOY RALPH NADER, usually describe them in a way that they are nuts, kooks, or numb-skulls with no platform or policies whatever and having no news or issue value whatever.

In the year 2000 Presidential election, Ralph Nader, a spoiler, pulled 97 thousand votes in Florida while condemning the Democrats. As a disrupter, Nader made it possible and economical for GOP officials to purportedly heavily bribe South Florida DEMOCRAT officials, at a strategic moment, to stop the recount of Democrat ballots. Candidate Albert Gore, Jr., had won the popular vote nationwide by a 600,000 plurality. The Florida vote was crucial to the Electoral College vote system.

A five-judge, military-style Junta, on the U.S. Supreme Court corruptly installed George W. Bush as the occupant and resident of the White House. To see the court records of the corruption involved in the high court in Washington, in the litigation Bush versus Gore, visit our website story, "Coca-Cola, the CIA, and the Courts", parts 9 and 10.

It is no secret that Bush White House bagman and Rasputin, Karl Rove, is overjoyed that Ralph Nader has announced he is running on Third Party ticket for President. If not on the Green Party ticket, Nader may not even be on lesser state ballots, but no doubt will be shown on those necessary for the big fix favoring possibly Bush.

IS RALPH NADER AMERICA'S MOST PROTECTED AND CONCEALED "Agent Provocateur"? Using polished rhetoric to mislead those dumbed-down by the oil-soaked, spy-riddled American monopoly press? Retired spooks aver that Nader is a CIA weirdo provocateur. He appears to be part of the gay underground media and government cult, that includes George W. Bush and U.S. Senator John Kerry.

IS NADER JUST MORE BUSH WHITE HOUSE ELECTION INSURANCE? Is Nader part of "The Secret Agenda" to discredit the U.S. nation-state, put an end to Presidential elections, and create the Breakaway States of the disunited provinces of America? [That was one purpose of the Brits in turning the North versus the South, on the excuse of the "slavery" issue, in the U.S. Civil War, or "War Between the States".] AND TO RUN THIS LAND WITH AN EMERGENCY FASCIST PANEL, not a Presidency?

[Visit earlier parts of this series as well as my co-authored series The Middle-Finger News.]
For example, on Sunday, February 22, 2004, Nader appeared on the NBC Network program, with NBC owned by General Electric. Did Nader say anything against G.E.? He should have mentioned---but didn't--- that the Albert Gore family was instrumental in the perpetuation of the Tennessee Valley Authority, TVA, by which electricity in that State is almost free. Further, the Gores were instrumental for the first and only time in U.S. history to get the top officials of the electric machinery monopoly, General Electric and Westinghouse, put in federal prison for anti-trust violations, fingered as they were by the TVA and the Gores, 1961.

Is Ralph Nader ready to adopt a motto against BIG OIL, BIG MEDIA, BIG ELECTRICITY? And how about Nader's cronies in the war-mongering high-tech electronics industry, and he owns millions of dollars of their stocks? Does Nader ever raise questions about the political assassination of U.S. leaders, such as John F. Kennedy, and civil rights activists, such as Malcolm X and Dr. King? Of course not. Does Nader ever raise questions about the Queen of England getting huge U.S. cotton subsidies based on British Royalty having owned the Illinois Central Railroad, from Chicago to New Orleans, operating through farmlands in the South and owning vast tracts of land on either side of their tracks?

Does Nader ever raise questions about the Bush Crime Family being in a ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLAR joint account with Queen Elizabeth II, in her private bank, Coutts Bank London? And that Saddam Hussein, having been a private business partner of Daddy Bush, has a huge interest in that account as well?

[9] I conducted seminars at small colleges, not those big private ones of the Ruling Class, and at a broadcast school in Chicago. I used to suggest a possible government undercover operative as a target of the class investigation. I said to my students that as they start the probe, first go down to the drugstore and buy a roll of cotton.

"But Mr. Skolnick, why the cotton?" And I responded, "Because provocateurs have polished rhetoric most times being impossible to penetrate. Plug up your ears, do not listen to their mouth. TRACE THE MONEY. EXAMINE THEIR ACTS."

During the Anti-Viet Nam War movement period, I taught methods, quite successful but often not accepted by naive sorts, of identifying agents provocateurs. It is a French term defined as "A secret agent hired to penetrate some organization to incite trouble designed to make the organization or its its members incur punishment".

Methods I taught included tracing the money to them through CIA-linked Foundations. Little-known, such tax-exempt entities have to file publicly available federal tax forms.[It is a tedious task, however, following the money through various conduits, pass-throughs, and fronts. Scroll all the way down the website for a related story. www.skolnicksreport.com "A Short History of CIA Fronts".]

I was often misunderstood, condemned, or ignored by naive idealists. In Chicago was a peacenik group headed by a charming CIA operative with believeable rhetoric. Dressed as a bearded hippie, he worked tirelessly to incite the members to "action".

"Don't just sit there!" he exhorted his group. "Come on. Let's fire-bomb the ROTC Center!" [The military facility, Reserve Officers Training Corp.] As he led them into breaking windows and were getting set to torch the place, the peaceniks were directed right into confronting the National Guard, lined up, ready with fixed bayonets. Some of the peaceniks were bloodied and later, all were arrested, and the Peace group scattered and disbanded. The provocateur-leader? Just before the flash-point of the commotion, he had safely disappeared behind the military lines.
My repeated prior warnings to the group about their "leader" were ignored and I was bad-mouthed as someone who does not understand the "Peace Movement".

Naive, poorly-informed persons probably "bought" Ralph Nader's words. Provocateurs, to seem credible, say believeable things. So what? In a politically realistic world, they are just running their mouth. As a lawyer, Nader is not about to finger top-level judges, as we do, who are inherently corrupt as Banker-Judges. He will not really heckle the high court in Washington. He will say nothing about the British Royals and the Jesuits who for two hundred years of U.S. history, benefitted from and instigated the political assassination OF SEVEN U.S. PRESIDENTS who opposed British encroachment on U.S. financial and industrial development and opposed the Vatican itching to have a firm foothold in America. [Four Presidents murdered by gunfire from supposed "lone assassins", three by poisoning. See earlier parts of this series.]

[10] He would have you believe he is "Saint Ralph" which he is NOT.
Nader is a bagman for the trial lawyers' lobby. "Ralph Nader is a bargain for trial lawyers at $1,000 a Table", Wall Street Journal, 6/24/92.

He blocks releasing money records of organizations he runs, and for such violations is not bothered by the Justice Department. Such as his group Public Citizen., Inc. "Abuse of Trust: A Report on Ralph Nader's Network", by Dan Burt, Regnery Gateway publishers, Chicago, 1982.
.He amasses millions while playing the stock market regarding corporations he publicly attacks. Numerous details catalogued at www.realchange.org/nader.htm which details various sources of Nader's dirty business including his family members (some reportedly with the American CIA).
More coming. Stay tuned.

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Many of Mr. Skolnick's articles appear on his website www.skolnicksreport.com They are also posted and archived through MAIN PAGE, left-hand side of same COLUMNISTS Sherman Skolnick at www.rense.com The Middle-Finger News series and other of his articles and documents are posted on www.cloakanddagger.ca
He is co-host, with Lenny Bloom, on a program heard ON-LINE live and archived through www.cloakanddagger.ca Visit that website for schedule.
Published recently, the book, "Ahead of the Parade" by Sherman H. Skolnick, A Who's Who of Treason & High Crimes---Exclusive Details of Fraud & Corruption of the Monopoly Press, the Banks, the Bench and the Bar, & the Secret Political Police. Can be ordered U.S./Canada 1-800-861-7899.
Can also supposedly be ordered from amazon.com HOWEVER in recent times they have blockaded their own marketing and sales of this controversial book by DEMANDING twice the listed price.
Well, isn't that special? 23.Feb.2004 20:17

George Bender

I got as far as "Retired spooks aver that Nader is a CIA weirdo provocateur. He appears to be part of the gay underground media and government cult, that includes George W. Bush and U.S. Senator John Kerry." That's when I realized that this guy's wheels have come off.

Whoever posted this, you really need to get your brain in gear.

This is just more crap to try to discredit Nader. The Democrats must be getting really desperate.

This campaign isn't really about Nader anyway. He's not running to get elected, which is impossible. He's running to raise a critical issue -- the power of the corporations -- threaten the Democrats and force them to move left. That's what I want to, so I'll support him. It's great to see Nader on TV news. At least he gets out a few glorious sentences of truth before they switch to how much the Democrats hate him. And us.

The Nader campaign is about giving the American left a voice in politics. I'm tired of being ignored.


ummm! seems to be typical response of a 23.Feb.2004 20:28

Nader

die-hard! Nader has seen his setting sun, time to drop off beyond the horizon!

Politics is the art of compromise 23.Feb.2004 20:28

Mark Twang

I say vote for Nader, because he will be a better kind of morally corrupt.

Better the evil you know.

Interesting article... 23.Feb.2004 20:33

Tony Blair's dog

the only part that makes it a little suspicious is the part;

"In the year 2000 Presidential election, Ralph Nader, a spoiler, pulled 97 thousand votes in Florida while condemning the Democrats. As a disrupter, Nader made it possible and economical for GOP officials to purportedly heavily bribe South Florida DEMOCRAT officials, at a strategic moment, to stop the recount of Democrat ballots. Candidate Albert Gore, Jr., had won the popular vote nationwide by a 600,000 plurality. The Florida vote was crucial to the Electoral College vote system."


How is Nader to blame for "DEMOCRAT officials" being corrupt "at a strategic moment"?


The real art of being a great desinformant is being able to tell the truth enough times,
so that when the lie is served, it will be percieved as truth.

Skolnick has written so many interesting pieces about most of the corrupt
criminals in high places that he would have been targeted for assassination
a long time ago, had he been percieved as a threat by the criminals themselves.

Maybe it's time to read his stuff again....

And yes, Nader should be questioned about any "strange dealings"
that he might be/have been involved in.

Ask the right questions and his answers should tell if he's honest or not.

wow, They're Really SCRAPING THE BARREL 23.Feb.2004 20:44

when

the best they can come up with is one of Skolnick's more paranoid, rightist rants (notice all the crusty-oldstyle-conservative John Birch-esque Vietnam-era "anti-smelly-hippie let's-firebomb-the-ROTC" rhetoric which pops up here and in several other of Skolnick's pieces).

I agree with Sherman Skolnick and consider him quasi-reliable on certain stuff, but this one is a waste of his and your time.

Picking away at Ralph for what he earns annually on *lecture fees* . . . ??!?!? c'mon . . .

Skolnick is much better when concentrating on the real power elite and their multi-BILLION dollar shenanigans:

 http://www.skolnicksreport.com/ootar26.html
President Ronald Reagan . . . was implicated in the Iran-Contra situation. . . . funds secretly given to the Iranians were skimmed off to finance the counter-revolutionaries in Nicaragua, to evade the Boland Amendment, prohibiting the U.S. from financing the Contras as they were called.

At the time Daddy Bush, as Vice President, denied he knew anything about this. He said he was "out of the loop" and thus not told what was going on. Later facts brought out by the Independent Counsel showed otherwise. In later years, some Congressmen an d other insiders admitted that they thought about impeaching President Reagan but thought it would be a bad thing for the nation. Working on a report on the Iran-Contra mess was a commission headed by Senator John Tower (R. Texas). For short, it was cal led the Tower Commission. In 1991, when he was unfairly defamed in being rejected by the Daddy Bush Administration for Secretary of Defense, Tower began grumbling he was going to bring out some dirty secrets of the elder Bush then President. Convenient ly, Tower perished with his daughter in an apparent sabotaged plane crash in April, 1991. About the same time, Senator John Heinz (R., Penn.), heir to the Heinz Ketchup fortune was himself snuffed out when his airplane was hit fro! m below by a helicopter. Although some believed it was foul play, others contended the helicopter pilot, examining whether the Heinz plane could not lower the landing wheels, slammed into the plane. Others raised the sinister version that the whirlybir d pilot wanted somehow to commit "suicide". Heinz' widow married Senator John Kerry (D., Mass.), long connected to the American CIA. Senator Kerry in investigating the dope traffic through his subcommittee, conveniently covered up the role of the espion age agency money laundry, Bank of Credit and Commerce International, BCCI, that also financed the campaigns of a group of senators including Kerry.

NEW CHIEF OF SECRET POLITICAL POLICE
 http://www.skolnicksreport.com/spoliticalp.html

Please note. Senator Kerry is no sweet angel. He is an expert reputed blackmailer and cover up artist. He is married to the widow of the late U.S. Senator from Pennsylvania, John Heinz, heir to the ketchup and canned beans fortune. Heinz died in a sabotaged plane crash in 1991, just as he was planning to expose U.S. government complicity in several domestic and foreign political assassinations.

As to the infamous BCCI, Sen Kerry himself had a conflict of interest in that he headed a group of U.S. Senators who accepted campaign funds from the worldwide spy-money laundry-murder machine BCCI. Kerry's subcommittee refused to delve into the highly pertinent Chicago branch office of BCCI and their Chicago twin, a branch of Italy's largest bank, owned in part by the Vatican, Banca Nazionale Del Lavoro, BNL. [Suppressed BNL records as to the secret private partnership of the Elder Bush and Saddam Hussein were the subject of my exclusive story, in Spotlight, August 19, 1991, referred to earlier.]
 http://www.skolnicksreport.com/spoliticalp.html


I admire Skolnick very much, though he left some points out 23.Feb.2004 22:34

hmm

I suppose you can say that what I fail to comment on I have nothing to say about and would concur. Yes, he is rather rich. I fail to think that being rich makes you innately immoral. There is a contextual context to American politics--since only private funds form the campaigns (unlike other countries), it is a game of the very rich. Period.

I would add that he earned a degree from an Ivy League school, and presumably has spent his whole adult life working for the consumer interest--as nearly selflessly as Skolnick has providing a stinging rebuke of all that is hypocriticially false about American morality and its system of government.

Much of his 'fortune' presumably came from that millions of dollars court suit he brought against the makes of that "unsafe at any speed" car, the Corvair. The court suit was against General Motors and the federal cops, because they were illegally spyign on him, attempting to discredit the consumer awareness campaign. HEY, SOUND ANY DIFFERENT IN THE USA 30 YEARS LATER? He wins this court suit, and uses the millions to found.......

....Public Citizen, Inc., in the 1970s, a consumer lobbyist organization. This at the time, this was unheard of. It was a truly populist type of lobbying, bizarre because lobbying was typically how business groups gained the private ear of public officials. Nader's lobbying, even though it was still lobbying, becomes a force to be reckoned with. It sort of put Marx-type analysis on its head, instead of working for union/labor rights and perks, it was working on consumer's rights/perks.

some difficulties I have with Skolnick's narrative:

[1] About thirty five years ago, Ralph Nader had a group of purportedly "idealistic" young men and women. He dubbed them "Nader's Raiders". One part of that group in the Chicago area met occasionally at my house. In my own sly way, I quizzed them. Who are these folks crusading supposedly against the "Establishment"? All of them were young law students or beginning lawyers. But crucial to my understanding of them, they were moreover, I quietly discovered, the sons and daughters of the ultra rich.

>>>>>>>>WELL, yes....though LET US REMEMBER THE FRENCH REVOLUTION AND STATEMENTS ABOUT THE RIGHTS OF MAN WAS DONE BY ELITIST LAWYERS AS WELL! ;-) VIVE LA FRANCE. Sometimes a rich radical is far more powerful than a poor one.

I tried not to show my suspicion. Privately, I discovered directly that they simply wanted to correct some of the more blatant misdeeds of the Ruling Class, "the powers that be", the Establishment---in other words THEIR elders. That is control perpetuated by a play for time, continuing problems of the system to a generation or more hence, if ever remedied by drastic measures.

>>>>I would agree with that. Ralph does act in his belief in reforming the 'system' instead of overturning it, though its is a true switch in 2000: attempting to run candidacies in the public sense instead of work from behind the scenes, direclty attemping to break open the two party duopoly. Skolnink's insinuations are that he is an 'insider.' He certainly is in one sense, though far from the political sense. Remember, he was being thrown out of the debates; he was physically kept from buying a ticket to the Bush/Gore debates even as a private citizen, upon threat of arrest!). I would suggest is not the antics of someone on the 'political inside.' They are afraid of him, both Bush and Gore, because they know the huge level of animosity amongst general americans for the corporate political elites that are in the left and right. Nader, in tapping that, has a lot of power against them.

[2] Ralph Nader was good at planting phantasies. Such as, that he lived in a cold-water flat, paid almost nothing per month for it, and lived on a very reduced financial level. All of it complete rubbish. Very credible sources contended he had a friend who on occasion drove him around in their Rolls Royce. Nader lived secretly in luxury houses. See: "Me and Ralph: Is Nader Unsafe for America" by David Sanford, New Republic Books, 1976.

>>>This sounds like half-truth half-fantasy itself. Anyone with the time should ask for all FOIA information they can get on Ralph Nader, and I bet you would find a lot of FBI disinforamtion campaigns over the years....

[3] For thirty years and more, he has been an extremely high-paid visiting lecturer at the very universities identified as the center of the "war industry", as documented in the book "The Closed Corporation", by James Ridgeway, 1969 (those familiar with the subject, say little has changed since the book was first published). Ralph Nader was paid between fifteen thousand to thirty thousand dollars honoraria for each speech, which took up about ninety minutes of his time on the lecture platform. Nader received speaking fees over two hundred fifty thousand dollars annually, even in the 1970s.

>>>>I have little problem with this, if someone does, please tell me why. If people want to pay him for this, that's great.

By the year 2000, when he ran as a candidate for President on the Green Party third party ticket, his lecture income was about just short of a half a million dollars a year. As required by election regulations to be divulged.

>>>As I said, American politics is a rich persons game; it is inherently unfair and biased. Nader's well within the upper class, though class is hardly a definite predictor of values.

[4] Calling it the "Green Party" should be a dead giveaway of what they are about. Basically, their idea of the world, at least as I understand it from having in years past talked to Green Party officials, is that so-called "left-wingers", those truly devoted to workers' rights as against bosses, are the "Reds". That is union members, labor activists, and such, are immediately thought of as dreaded "Communists" whether they espouse anything like Marxism or not. In simple form, it is the "Greens", presumably "anti-Communists" versus "The Communists". I suspect some Green Party supporters will hollar me down on my analysis of the situation.

>>>>This makes me laugh. Skolnick is something like 85 years old, and it shows. Greens if anything are pro-labor, pro-regulation, though more localist in state powers. Personally, I wonder why Skolnick avoids the topic of how Wall Streeters DID help the Soviet Union, the "reds."

Nader busted the Union of his own low-paid workers. "Anti Labor Chapter Surfaces in Nader's Past", by Heather Szerlag, Pacifica Radio News, 10/31/2000. "Union Buster? THE NADER?" by Nick Mamatas, Greenwich Village Gazette, Vol.5, #44, 9/15/2000. "Editors Claim Firing by Nader Based on Unionizaion Attempt" by Peter Perl, Washington Post, 6/28/1984, page B 3. As to his group, Public Citizen,Inc., Nader refused to divulge their finances, although required by law. "Public Citizen's Non-Disclosure", Wall Street Journal, 3/17/1992, page A 14.

>>>>>I do remember that, and found it rather shameful.

[5] By the time of his mandatory disclosure as presidential candidate in the year 2000 campaign, Ralph Nader had about three million dollars in high-tech industry stock, primarily firms into war electronics for the Pentagon. Nader amassing money sources. Ralph Nader's official financial disclosure for year 2000. Open Secrets web site. "Inside Nader's Stock Portfolio" by Jake Tapper, Salon Magazine, 10/28/2000. "Mr. Nader's Conglomerate" (editorial), Wall Street Journal, 4/17/1980, page 26. "Ralph Nader, Inc.", Forbes Magazine, 9/17/1999, pages 119, 122. Nader amassed his fortune by speculating on the very stocks of corporations he condemned. "Abuse of Trust: A Report on Ralph Nader's Network", by Dan Burt, Regnery Gateway publishers, Chicago, 1982.

>>>>>Pot calling the kettle black?

[7] Nader, a lawyer, apparently never openly discusses the situation with THIRD PARTY candidates in America. They are obstructed from having equal ballot access by a thick forest of State laws. And the U.S. Supreme Court, traditionally made up of zillionaires on behalf of the Ruling Class, has repeatedly refused to strike down these obstructions.

>>>>Wait a minute. He brought the court suit against the whole two-party framework, right?


Does Nader ever comment on the arithmetic of American law? Notice. Canada has about thirty million population. And they have about three hundred representatives in their Lower House.
GET THIS. AMERICA, with about THREE HUNDRED MILLION POPULATION, has just 435 Representatives in the Lower House, and 100 Senators in the U.S. SENATE. Most every Representative and Senator is a lawyer and/or represents huge financial interests, not the ordinary person in their back-home district.

Among 535 that purport to represent Americans THERE IS CURRENTLY JUST ONE "INDEPENDENT", a great rarity to have even one. NOT A SINGLE THIRD PARTY CANDIDATE is generally permitted to sit in Congress.

>>>>>(Sigh.) How is this Nader's fault? I'm with Skolnick though. Personally I would like him to discuss the gerrymandered districts and the apportionment frameworks as well. Even in some speeches I have read by him, he was entirely wrong in 2000 in describing Instant Runoff Voting. It was like no one had ever briefed him about it? Later, he began to talk more of it. Nader though is more reformist than revolutionary.

The press-fakers, generally, if forced to depict a Third Party candidate, BUT NOT THEIR BOY RALPH NADER, usually describe them in a way that they are nuts, kooks, or numb-skulls with no platform or policies whatever and having no news or issue value whatever.

>>>>>THEIR BOY RALPH NADER?? WHA? IN 2000, RALPH WAS THE 'KUCINICH'--UNABLE TO GET ANY CORPORATE MEDIA AIRPLAY, unless they used him as a humorous aside.

In the year 2000 Presidential election, Ralph Nader, a spoiler,

>>>>not this spoiler nonsense once more. Even Skolnick in his eariler pieces of this series says something entirely different about Florida. Read Palast for Christ's sake on this. This is a very slippery slope of argument here? to blame Nader for what Bush did with his brother's state of Florida? and how Bush's campaign head was a state employee at the time (Katherine Harris) who had oversight of purging the voter roster of Florida to make it more Bush-friendly. Besides the vote was made meaningless. There is little connection wtih Nader here at all! Anyway, legally there should be no one in the White House, because the Supreme Court stopped the Vote count and decided on it (5 to 4) themselves. The 2000 election ended in a judicial coup instead of a presidency--a coup that gave us 9-11 ,and invasions of multiple countires for oil and an abrogation of the whole Bill of Rights.


It is no secret that Bush White House bagman and Rasputin, Karl Rove, is overjoyed that Ralph Nader has announced he is running on Third Party ticket for President. If not on the Green Party ticket, Nader may not even be on lesser state ballots, but no doubt will be shown on those necessary for the big fix favoring possibly Bush.

>>>>>>.If Nader was smart, he would run only in Bush heavy states. ;-) Greens appeal to bits of the right and the left. Split the right in Bush heavy states.

IS RALPH NADER AMERICA'S MOST PROTECTED AND CONCEALED "Agent Provocateur"? Using polished rhetoric to mislead those dumbed-down by the oil-soaked, spy-riddled American monopoly press? Retired spooks aver that Nader is a CIA weirdo provocateur. He appears to be part of the gay underground media and government cult, that includes George W. Bush and U.S. Senator John Kerry.

>>>>>Who knows, I wish I knew. All I have learned from American politics is that it is so occult and wacky that this may be possible. However, I'm worried about Skolnick. He has gotten rather loose and angry of late against homosexuals in general DIRECTLY, instead of simply exposing the connections of it as it relates to politcal corruption (which he stated very clearly how torn he was in originally writing with this tact in earlier episodes, and that was originally the only rationale for his concern over homosexuality--because it was connected with political corruption of the people he was talkinga bout, instead of the concern being about homosexuality itself.). Alas, perhaps the grand old man is finally getting a bit senile and rabid. I hope otherwise.


[Visit earlier parts of this series as well as my co-authored series The Middle-Finger News.]
For example, on Sunday, February 22, 2004, Nader appeared on the NBC Network program, with NBC owned by General Electric. Did Nader say anything against G.E.? He should have mentioned---but didn't--- that the Albert Gore family was instrumental in the perpetuation of the Tennessee Valley Authority, TVA, by which electricity in that State is almost free.

>>>>>>>>I'm really losing his argument here. Is he saying that this is bad?!

Further, the Gores were instrumental for the first and only time in U.S. history to get the top officials of the electric machinery monopoly, General Electric and Westinghouse, put in federal prison for anti-trust violations, fingered as they were by the TVA and the Gores, 1961.

Is Ralph Nader ready to adopt a motto against BIG OIL, BIG MEDIA, BIG ELECTRICITY?

>>>>>>>>.Er, he HAS. Skolnick is lost in the sound of his own rhetoric at this point.

And how about Nader's cronies in the war-mongering high-tech electronics industry, and he owns millions of dollars of their stocks? Does Nader ever raise questions about the political assassination of U.S. leaders, such as John F. Kennedy, and civil rights activists, such as Malcolm X and Dr. King? Of course not. Does Nader ever raise questions about the Queen of England getting huge U.S. cotton subsidies based on British Royalty having owned the Illinois Central Railroad, from Chicago to New Orleans, operating through farmlands in the South and owning vast tracts of land on either side of their tracks?

>>>>>.I love Skolnick when he mentions such things like this. ;-)

Does Nader ever raise questions about the Bush Crime Family being in a ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLAR joint account with Queen Elizabeth II, in her private bank, Coutts Bank London? And that Saddam Hussein, having been a private business partner of Daddy Bush, has a huge interest in that account as well?

>>>>>>>>If he ever did, he's probably be killed by said Bush crime family. Nader knows he is only running for visiblity sakes about the uselessness of the two party framework.

Naive, poorly-informed persons probably "bought" Ralph Nader's words. Provocateurs, to seem credible, say believeable things. So what? In a politically realistic world, they are just running their mouth. As a lawyer, Nader is not about to finger top-level judges, as we do, who are inherently corrupt as Banker-Judges. He will not really heckle the high court in Washington. He will say nothing about the British Royals and the Jesuits who for two hundred years of U.S. history, benefitted from and instigated the political assassination OF SEVEN U.S. PRESIDENTS who opposed British encroachment on U.S. financial and industrial development and opposed the Vatican itching to have a firm foothold in America. [Four Presidents murdered by gunfire from supposed "lone assassins", three by poisoning. See earlier parts of this series.]


[10] He would have you believe he is "Saint Ralph" which he is NOT.
Nader is a bagman for the trial lawyers' lobby. "Ralph Nader is a bargain for trial lawyers at $1,000 a Table", Wall Street Journal, 6/24/92.

He blocks releasing money records of organizations he runs, and for such violations is not bothered by the Justice Department. Such as his group Public Citizen., Inc. "Abuse of Trust: A Report on Ralph Nader's Network", by Dan Burt, Regnery Gateway publishers, Chicago, 1982.
.He amasses millions while playing the stock market regarding corporations he publicly attacks. Numerous details catalogued at www.realchange.org/nader.htm which details various sources of Nader's dirty business including his family members (some reportedly with the American CIA).
More coming. Stay tuned.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>I would certainly be curious to read more. As I said, American political elites have leaned well about dividing and conquering, instad of democratic appeals. And they have attempted to use the Greens for their purposes. Remember that the Republicans DID attempt, in the state of Arizona, try to 'hire' a Green candidate in the 2002 Congressional elections, so as to make it easier for a close predicted win by a Republican in that state to be a bit surer.

This is an evil country, ruled by evil people.

I still think Nader should run.

The American political system is a one party state. Any media play at all on Nader's part that can get a discussion about this is worthwhile.

He knows it is broken. Everyone knows its broken.

All this means is for everyone to have the courage to want something different.

As long as Nader is doing that, I will support his activities.