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Starbucks to open store in SE Portland?

According to an anonymous inside source, Seattle-based coffee-behemoth Starbucks is planning to start work on a store in the Seven Corners district of Southeast Portland on March 1. If this is true, it means that Urban Works Real Estate, a local property management company and the siter for Starbucks in Portland, lied to the Hosford-Abernathy Neighborhood Association last year when it said that a Starbucks would not be built at the particular location, SE Division at 21st. Urban Works manages many properties around the city, and if this anonymous allegation is true, then other neighborhood associations would do well to hold Urban Works' feet to the fire when it makes promises about other projects.

"If Urban Works wants to have a good name in this town," said a worker at a local eating establishment, "they'll back out of this deal, and fast."

Currently standing empty (and indeed open to the air) on the property is the old Ladd's Meat building, where controversy under Urban Works' watch has already occured: the gutting of the structure in August was sloppily executed -- as reported here on indymedia -- possibly to the endangerment of local residents. Fiber glass and other detritus blew all over the street, and on-site workers had no protection against the dust and fumes clouding the air during the process.

If the community organizes to oppose this Starbucks, it won't just be the wild-eyed radicals in the neighborhood who will be involved. Many of the surrounding business owners want Seven Corners to be a concentration of small, locally-owned stores, not corporate chains. Some have already cooperated together to improve the area, through the Village Building Convergence's "7 Corners Localization Initiative". This area of Portland has more real community than most neighborhoods in the United States, and if keeping Starbucks out becomes a priority, Starbucks won't be moving in.

"Starbucks is a big foe," said a customer at a cafe in the area. "But Urban Works isn't. This is a winnable battle."

Even if this Starbucks allegation is false, or if the chain makes the wise decision not to move in, the future of this location is still in question. Urban Works is asking for over twice the amount per square foot than is being charged for other properties in the vicinity, which puts the space out of the reach of most non-chain stores. This is a spot to watch over the next few months.

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More about Starbucks:

Let's fight this if it's true! 13.Jan.2004 10:11

jbk

I live in the Brooklyn neighborhood but will lend a hand to any organized fight against Starbucks moving into this area of town. Post the info here and you'll have friends joining you from south of Powell.

Info 13.Jan.2004 10:35

jbk

Info I found on developer's website...http://www.urbanworksrealestate.com/listings/se/images/20thDivisionSitePlanLg.gif

http://www.urbanworksrealestate.com/listings/se/images/20thDivisionSitePlanLg.gif



From: http://www.urbanworksrealestate.com/tenant_rep/starbucks.htm

We are proud to be the exclusive representative for Starbucks in the Oregon/SW Washington market. Since 1992 we have helped locate and negotiate more than 90 retail stores. It is through a deep understanding Starbucks real estate needs and our market that we have become one of their most successful and long-term real estate representatives.

We are currently seeking sites for Starbucks in Oregon and SW Washington. If you have a retail location you think would make a good site for Starbucks, please review the following guidelines carefully for consideration:

* Must be located on a high traffic area (foot and/or vehicle)
* Corner or end-cap retail storefront
* Easy access from roadways, lighted intersection
* Ideally, parking available
* Drive-thru locations will be considered immediately
* 1,200 - 1,500 Sq. Ft. retail suite

Also see: http://www.urbanworksrealestate.com/listings/se/20th_and_division.htm for PDF on the project with marketing info, and you'll see the location meets all of their own guidelines for a Starbucks location...

they are not welcome 13.Jan.2004 12:28

java jojo

i live near that propsed starbucks site.
we already have established coffee shops and small cafe businesses in that area. we need to let starbucks know that they are not wanted. hawthorne pushed out macdonalds and we can push out starbucks.

Urban Works are bad neighbors and liars 13.Jan.2004 12:43

Ladd Meats Neighbor

The issues as I see them:

1) Urban Works lied to the neighborhood association when they told them there would be no Starbucks at the Ladd Meats property. This fact should be sent in a letter to all the neighborhood associations, warning them that Urban Works is quite happy to screw over the neighborhoods to get their way.

Urban Work's name should be crap in this city.

2) Urban Works also repeatedly violated building codes in their demolition of the Ladd Meats building, they spread fibreglass insulation for blocks and when called on it they told the neighbors to shut up and get out. There are witnesses and photographs of this.

A local landlord also called the Building Inspectors because demolition was being done a couple weeks ago in violation of health and safety codes, no water was used to keep down dust, etc. Was a asbestos survey done? This should be on record with the city Buildings Dept.

After that, I witnessed a Sunday demolition of the inside celings (where any asbesos would be), the workers appeared to all day laborers and wore no masks. Again no water used to keep dust, etc down.

Anti Starbucks 13.Jan.2004 13:03

Pro Sam Bucks

Maybe this is a good time to remind everyone of the on going legal fight between Starbucks and Sam Bucks of Astoria. Sam Bucks has owned and operatered a small coffee shop in downtown Astoria for several years. Along comes Starbucks and opens up shop in town and is now insisting Sam Bucks changes the name of her store because it is too similar to their name. Mind you her name really is Sam Bucks. Well okay perhaps it is Samamtha Bucks. I go into her shop every time I am in Astoria and the small hometown feel the friendliness the trust and the atmoshpere is unlike anything you would ever encounter at Starbucks. In fact when I was there just a few weeks ago the woman working the counter alone had to run down the street to deliver coffee. She asked me if I was going to be there for awhile and when I said yes she merely drew closed a small gate across the counter area and left me there to inform the customers that she would be back shortly. I was amazed at her trust considering she did not know me. The world needs more Sam Bucks and fewer Starbucks. Which would you prefer in your neighborhood? By the way I have boycotted Starbucks ever since I learned of this frivolous lawsuit and invite others to join me. It is important to contact the corporate headquaters and let them know why you refuse to give them your business.

Yeah, umm, me too 13.Jan.2004 16:22

James

"By the way I have boycotted Starbucks ever since I learned of this frivolous lawsuit and invite others to join me. "

Yeah. Me too. I've been boycotting Starbucks ever since I tasted their coffee learned of that frivolous lawsuit. Yeah, the, ah, lawsuit. That's why they don't get my business.

Starbucks is a disgrace to Women 13.Jan.2004 18:17

.

ever notice that the the lady in the starbucks logo has her legs up in the air...????

down with starbucks

The Buck Stops on Hawthorne 13.Jan.2004 20:15

Stargazer

There is already a Hawthorne St. Starbucks located almost directly north of the proposed location on Division. It certainly doesn't meet the criteria of easy parking or being located near a light, but people in the area want a Starbucks fix, it's not as though they have to drive very far to get it.

due cafe, no dopio! 13.Jan.2004 21:22

coffeepeasant coffeepeasant@yahoo.com

If codes have been violated what legal outlets can be pursued by the public against such projects? Let em move in, its business not personal. Individualize your battle, come on relax, join the dark side.

Urban Works is Starbucks' Exclusive Real Estate Agency 14.Jan.2004 01:53

jason

this is from the urban works website. if you see an urban works sign in your neighborhood, a starbucks is not far behind.

 http://www.urbanworksrealestate.com/tenant_rep/starbucks.htm

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We are proud to be the exclusive representative for Starbucks in the Oregon/SW Washington market. Since 1992 we have helped locate and negotiate more than 90 retail stores. It is through a deep understanding Starbucks real estate needs and our market that we have become one of their most successful and long-term real estate representatives.

We are currently seeking sites for Starbucks in Oregon and SW Washington. If you have a retail location you think would make a good site for Starbucks, please review the following guidelines carefully for consideration:

* Must be located on a high traffic area (foot and/or vehicle)
* Corner or end-cap retail storefront
* Easy access from roadways, lighted intersection
* Ideally, parking available
* Drive-thru locations will be considered immediately
* 1,200 - 1,500 Sq. Ft. retail suite

To submit a site for consideration, please send or email us as much of the following information as possible:

* Photographs ( or renderings if under development/construction)
* Site/building plan Information about surrounding businesses
* Area demographics and/or neighborhood information

??? 14.Jan.2004 18:40

Sushi sadf

What the hell? Starbucks is making anouther store? Why? I walk downtown and see a starbucks everyblock of portland/ This is screwed.

Organizing against Starbucks 14.Jan.2004 19:42

jason sundown@riseup.net

As a resident of SE Portland, I am opposed to a Starbucks being located in a neighborhood that is a stellar example of community-owned business. For every dollar you spend in a chain store, 60 to 70 cents leaves the community. But in a 'mom-and-pop' type business, only six to ten cents leaves the community. Also, should Portland experience an economic downturn and, say, a Starbucks branch becomes unprofitable, the branch would simply be shut down. A local proprietor, on the other hand, would be more likely to stick it out and thus not exacerbate any economic downturn by closing shop. Given these and the many other advantages of a strong local economy, I'm surprised that local businesses aren't encouraged more through municipal law.

In the city of Arcata, CA, the city council passed an ordinance banning "pattern restaurants" in their downtown. My understanding is that they allowed current fast food chains to remain and put a cap on the number of chain restaurants. If Portland developed a similar law, we would save time and headaches running around putting out the fires (McDonald's trying to edge it's way onto Hawthorne comes to mind).

Regardless, those of us who oppose a Starbucks moving into our neighborhood would be wise to move fast if they plan on moving in this spring. I'll be attending the neighborhood association's (HAND) January meeting to voice my concerns and I encourage others to do the same.

Hosford-Abernethy Neighborhood Development Association
January meeting ---- 1/15/04 (Thursday) 7:00 PM at
St. Phillip Neri Church
2408 SE 16th Ave

HAND's website also has contact info for Board members at
 http://www.southeastuplift.org/hosfordassoc.htm

Urban Works 14.Jan.2004 22:33

one who knows

Urban Works never met with HAND, and never made any assurances about the presence or absence of a Starbucks at 20th & Div. However, the owner, Peter Perrin, did meet with HAND and did say that he was not considering a Starbucks at that location. I understand also that he gave similar assurances to the Division Clinton Business Association on two different occasions.

It seems to me that it is the owner who misled folks, not Urban Works, alough Urban Works clearly were the ones who signed up Starbucks.

urban works less than honest 18.Jan.2004 13:15

another one who knows

a 7 corners business owner called urban works about 6 months ago and asked if a starbucks would go in, and was led to believe that the answer was no. he was not the only one who got this impression through various meetings attended by either peter perrin (the owner) or some rep of urban works.

urban works knows it's walking into a lion's den and wanted to keep it as quiet as possible. now, thanks to indymedia, they've been exposed. and we're gonna STOP 'em!!!

Remember Seattle 19.Jan.2004 22:22

:~)


multnomah village neighborhood resident also opposed to Starbucks 23.Jan.2004 22:55

BCS bscott@voicemeansbiz.com

You are so right, Portland IndyMedia:
It won't be just the wild-eyed radicals in the neighborhood who will be involved in fighting Starbuckification in Seven Corners. I am neither a wild-eyed radical nor a Seven Corners resident, but count me in to join the fight.


Don't be hypocrites 31.Jan.2004 07:26

cthulhu

I'm posting this after seeing yesterday's (Jan. 30th) rather feeble and hypocritical protest outside of the proposed Starbucks location at 20th and Division. Let's talk about hypocrisy:

Picket signs reading "support local business". A block away, the fledgling (and very good) restaurant Nourishment has gone out of business due to lack of support from the neighborhood.

Just a few months ago, New Seasons Market was the target of choice in the Seven Corners neighborhood. A locally owned business, yet news of the imminent store at the location of the derelict Red Apple Market space sent some folks into such a rage that they created an anti-New Seasons market website (I won't bother listing it in this posting, but if you're poking around Portland Indymedia's website, I'm sure you'll find voluminous references to it) that bordered on libelous.

For the record, I should state that I am not a Starbucks customer or supporter. As the company has grown, its quality has plummeted, and it has changed its business scheme to market saturation. Coffee that is roasted locally is fresher, and the Division area has a vibrant, mostly locally owned collection of coffee places serving up local coffee. But I should also point out that Starbucks takes meticulous care in the upkeep of each store's appearance and the appearance/cleanliness of the local area. I work near a Starbucks, and while I choose not to patronize them, I am pleased that the area surrounding the location is always clean/ Some would call it sterile, but then again, some would also say that the cultivated shabbiness of another prominent coffee spot near Seven Corners is an eyesore. Additionally, with more than 150 locations in the Portland Metro Area, Starbucks is a significant employer.

What everybody needs to realize is that, whether renter, homeowner, or local businessperson, we all live in a CITY. Cities grow and change--when they cease to do so, they fester and die. Here in Portland, we are grateful for landmark urban planning such as the Urban Growth Boundary, yet some of us put up quite a fuss when we are faced with a changing landscape of urban density.

In the end, the only thing we can do against corporate culture is vote with our wallets. Don't want Starbucks? Don't patronize them.

Cthulhu

SE supports its local businesses 09.Feb.2004 17:58

Division St neighbor

Don't be hypocrites 31.Jan.2004 07:26
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cthulhu
I'm posting this after seeing yesterday's (Jan. 30th) rather feeble and hypocritical protest outside of the proposed Starbucks location at 20th and Division. Let's talk about hypocrisy:
Picket signs reading "support local business". A block away, the fledgling (and very good) restaurant Nourishment has gone out of business due to lack of support from the neighborhood.
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The reason Nourishment closed, as explained to me by their owner/chef (who's gone on to Imbibe on Hawethorne) is because the owner of the building no longer wanted to be financially involved. Ramona first ran a very successful food cart/van on the lot of Mirador. When the previous restaurant closed, she was invited by the landlord to move in and he would help with costs, since this wasn't something she'd planned for and was a huge leap.
The restaurant was very very successful, as a neighbor I saw it start out its first week and quickly become packed at dinnertime and weekends. When it closed, it was far from "fledgling".
But the landlord wanted to go back to being just a landlord. Given how well the place was going, I'm sure with more time she could've bought out his partnership. But she wasn't given that choice.

I wouldn't be suprised if the landlord, seeing how much Urban Works could charge and that New Seasons was moving in, realized he could charge more per sq foot too.

While you claim not to be a Starbucks fan, you didn't share what local SE businesses you support while pointing the finger of hypocracy.