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WTC1 911 hit: ISRAELI-&-US MILITARY CONNECTION strong in laser plane technology

More smoking (laser) guns, with clear fingerprints shared by the 9-11 beneficiaries. Read this article on the wire for more information:

WTC1 9-11 plane had BRIGHT FLASH before striking showing IT'S NOT COMMERCIAL JET [see images]
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2003/12/275927.shtml

Did the US government use the WTC1 hit as an experimental test of the laser plane technology?

"An Israeli super-efficient laser developed at Ben Gurion University has caught the eye of the U.S. security establishment. The development of a Chemical Oxygen-Iodine Laser. . ."
Israel Develops Chemical Super-Laser
22:58 Dec 30, '03 / 5 Tevet 5764


An Israeli super-efficient laser developed at Ben Gurion University has caught the eye of the U.S. security establishment. The development of a Chemical Oxygen-Iodine Laser is noted as one of the significant breakthroughs of 2003 by Aerospace America, the journal of the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics.

The journal lauds the chemical laser developed at BGU for opening up new and less expensive possibilities for the future use of chemical laser technology.

"Laser development is moving ahead in a number of countries, including the U.S. Russia, China, Japan and Germany," the head of the research team at BGU, Professor Zamik Rosenwaks explained to Israel21c.com, "however, in these countries, most of the lasers being developed are extremely large in size. Because the Israeli work is being done in a university laboratory, they have kept it small - and this limitation has become an advantage."

The Israeli laser, which one-ups existing technology and research in the U.S., is of particular note because of the large financial backing for competing projects across the globe. "The big powers are building big machines," said Rosenwaks, explaining why Israel had come out on top. The Israeli researchers' constraints turned into their "advantage" enabling them to easily study changes in their smaller version of the laser. "We can easily change components and do a lot of diagnostics, to really monitor how it behaves and so on. By that means, we have been able to devise a better, more efficient device," Rosenwaks said.

By efficiency, Rosenwaks explains that his team has been able to produce more laser power using a given amount of chemical reagents. The Israeli-developed laser uses nitrogen as a dilutent, instead of helium, which is usually used in chemical lasers. Nitrogen, Rosenwaks pointed out, is cheaper than helium in most countries.

Rosenwaks, who chairs the Chemical Physics department at Ben-Gurion, says he is aware of the many industries around the world carefully watching the department's research, preparing to put it to work for industrial and defense uses.

Industrial applications that have been discussed involve an alternative form of oil drilling, massive welding and cutting, and cutting through debris in the aftermath of a natural disaster. Defense applications, of particular interest to the U.S., involve airborne lasers for anti-missile weapons.

Israel21c.com reports that the U.S. military is developing a system in which Boeing jets would carry a mounted laser system and patrol territory from which there is a missile threat. Flying above 40,000 feet, the airplane would carry a monitoring system that would be able to detect when a missile was being put into the "boost phase" before launch. The hope is that the jets would then be able to use the laser to destroy the missile at an offensive stage rather than a defensive one.




Published: 22:50 December 30, 2003
Last Update: 22:58 December 30, 2003

 http://www.israelnationalnews.com/news.php3?id=55388

and, did the US government use the WTC1 hit as an experimental test of the laser plane technology:

WTC1 9-11 plane had BRIGHT FLASH before striking showing IT'S NOT COMMERCIAL JET
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2003/12/275927.shtml
Huh? 08.Jan.2004 21:58

Newton

What does this laser have to do with 9/11 ??

Double huh? 08.Jan.2004 22:13

Voice in the Wilderness

I think (given the last comments) that the author/poster is implying this new laser was tested on the WTC.

But, in answer to your question, I'm gonna go with, uh, nothing...

lost in Bush's wilderness, until you see images/videos of WTC1 hit 09.Jan.2004 00:29

helpful

check it out.

answer to Newton's "huh?" 09.Jan.2004 09:51

Merlin

this is easy! as to what the laser has to do with 9-11>>>this type of laser, and more especially, it's
beam...has been detected in some of the (pre-government/media whores sanctioned released)
film footage taken as the 2nd plane hit it's tower, and it appears to originate from the same level of
floors that the "suspected" terrorist hijacked plane crashed into. NOT only that, but underneath the
suspect plane, was detected an unsual pod that is NOT normally found on plane's of this category
and make>>>implication being>>>that it was afixed there by "others" to facilitate the new gee-whiz
technology that would guide this terrorist-hijacked plane along very precise trajectory needed to
bring it in to hit EXACTLY the area that was hit, with the laser beam simply the NAV-AID (of choice,
in this particular instance, naturally!) guiding it on it.

This technology...a much more simplified version..is simple, is available, and it has/is being used
by your government's USDOT/FAA for years to guide commercial airlines to high-volume/high-traffic airports under severe weather conditions, via the IFR (Instrument Flight Rules) assortment of various staged-levels of LOC (localizers), MM's (Middle Markers), IM's (Inner Markers), OM's (Outer Markers)
TM's (Threshold Markers), ILS-systems, GLIDE SLOPE (a precise electronically emitted signal for
precise slope guidance) and VOR (Very-high frequency omni-Range ...little round buildings w/funny looking phallic-looking object sticking up in the center) to bring the planes...thousands of times daily
...to land within 50-100 feet of exactly where it's suppose to on the center-line of the R/W and within
5-10 feet either way for nose gear riding the center-line till a successful stop...usually just exactly
where they've intented it to do!

This "technology" is nothing new...no mystery...no Merlin's Magic at all. And this was 25+ years ago
that I, myself, supervised the installations of these gee-whiz techno gadgets on behalf of your govern-
ment>>>most of the time, it was a "piece o' cake" work...nothing to it really.

The point in telling this little vignette from the past, is simply to point out the FACT>>>that this was
25+ years ago, and it was your regular commercial aviation technologically then available.......AND
it was well known then, that the military had far more sophisticated technology at their disposal....
SO...why would a 25+ year enhanced technological advancement--which surely has taken place---
bring about a simplistic "hug!" when it comes to questioning this report???????????????????

Contained elsewhere in this website's pages...back pages at that...are a good number of articles,
repostings, commentary threads, and the like that cover this entire subject in sufficient detail to so
better educate ANYONE, should they so desire such (rather than mere jerk-kneed response of "...
oh my God!...someone has raised ? about MY government, and I've got to defuse that..." and then
type away "huh?"-styled comments. Rather simple way of dealing with REALITY isn't it? If you're
truly interested in TRUTH, REALITY-as-is-is...then, why not do some research on back pages to
become better and more fully INFORMED!

Here's a secret>>>>it doesn't take a Magician to understand it either...just a willingness to see
TRUTH when it stares one back...but, one has gotta take off their veils first...it that SIMPLE!

just to clarify: Merlin talks WTC2 hit, article above is WTC1 hit 09.Jan.2004 12:11

original poster

The topic under discussion at the above link is only the 1st hit, WTC1. Merlin describes something about the 2nd hit, of WTC2, thanks. For anyone who wants to know about the hypotheses about the 2nd hit, or WTC2's hit, see this link instead:

WTC1 HIT INFORMATION:
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2004/01/278028.shtml
WTC1 9-11 plane had BRIGHT FLASH before striking showing IT'S NOT COMMERCIAL JET
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2003/12/275927.shtml

WTC2 HIT INFORMATION BELOW:

 http://www.rense.com/general41/spain.htm

and see:

 http://www.rense.com/Datapages/wtcobj.htm

one of the stories there is:

Spain - News Story On
Anomaly Under WTC2 Boeing
The Plane that Crashed Into The South Tower Of The
World Trade Center Shows Shapes Of Unknown Origin
By Eduardo Martín de Pozuelo
La Vanguardia - Spain
June 22, 2003
[Translated into English; original in Spanish below]
9-14-3

[EXCERPTED]

BARCELONA - One and a half years after 9/11 many questions remain as to the circumstances surrounding the attacks on the Twin Towers. One of these unknowns is the nature of certain forms or marks which can be seen on the fuselage of the plane which crashed into the south tower of the World Trade Center. "La Vanguardia" asked Boeing about these marks, who claimed they were unable to respond for reasons of national security and referred it to the independent commission which has been conducting an inquiry since 31 March into what happened.

In the frozen images of various film shots of the final run of United Airlines flight 175, there are three strange shapes discernible, which the aeronautical experts consulted find difficult to explain. They consist of two long shapes located underneath the fuselage, one towards the bow and the other towards the stern of the plane. There is a third, seemingly pyramidal in shape, on the underbelly, almost in the center of the plane. Boeing's department of commercial aviation, with headquarters in Seattle, examined the photographs for ten days and, having announced an explanation for the phenomenon, declined to make a statement on what it saw. Finally a spokesman stated that Boeing was unable to offer an opinion "for security reasons" and because it had not officially participated in the investigation of the attacks.

Various aeronautical engineers at official Spanish centers have found no clear explanation for the reflections or shapes which can be observed on the hijacked plane.

However, a contour-detection digital analysis of the stills, carried out at the Escola Universitària Politècnica de Mataró, concludes that the "objects discerned cannot be due to shadows caused by the angle of incidence of the sun upon the plane as they always appear as the same shape and size, although their luminosity varies." This result was reached having subjected the photographs to a digital image process "which would respond to changes in luminance" which can be seen with the naked eye and which, in principle, would make no sense, given that the fuselage of commercial airplanes is cylindrical and flat, according to the cited technical report.

The author, who has had extensive professional experience in digital image processing, artificial neuronal networks and biometry, says in the report that "the same treatment" was applied to each of the photographs "using three standard digital image processing algorithms", the technical data of which are detailed at length in the dossier. Having clarified that "the images studied are taken from different angles of observation", it establishes that the "objects detected present distinct luminosity as they are in relief" and adds that "this is the only possible explanation", finally pointing out that "the objects detected can be clearly distinguished from the landing gear."

The reconstruction of the events leading up to the horrific attack on the second tower show that preparations for the United Airlines flight UA-175 from Boston to Los Angeles were routine on the morning of 11 September 2001.

. . .

 http://www.unansweredquestions.net/timeline/2003/lavanguardia062203.html

 http://www.rense.com/general41/spain.htm


full list of articles about potential WTC2 anomaly on plane:

Strange Object In WTC
Plane Photos


WTC2 Boeing 'Pod' Dimensions Calculated
 http://www.rense.com/general41/ils.htm

12 Sequential Shots Of Plane Hitting WTC
[broken link]

More Evidence Of An Object On WTC2 Boeing?
 http://www.rense.com/general41/fus.htm

Did The Boeing Fuselage Produce The 'Object'?
 http://www.rense.com/general41/bo.htm

Boeing Fuselage Anomaly First Noted Year Ago [lower in the article, it talks of second plane anomaly at WTC2]
 http://www.serendipity.li/wot/aa11.htm

More Evidence
 http://www.rense.com/general41/moreev.htm

Video Reveals UnmistakableObject Underneath (Flash4+)
 http://www.rense.com/general41/inex.htm

Mystery Solved?
 http://www.rense.com/general41/solved.htm

AC Mechanic: Object Should Not Exist
 http://www.rense.com/general41/ac.htm

Boeing Fuselage Anomaly Should NOT Be There
 http://www.rense.com/general41/boeing.htm

Mystery 'Pod' On Bottom Of Second WTC Plane
 http://www.rense.com/general41/whatisit.htm

lasers 09.Jan.2004 13:23

heimdallr

Yes, but do they have sharks with lasers on their heads yet? Or maybe dolphins would be more insidious? Now that would be scary. Then the "Iraqi Resistance" might have to develop a laser-bearing donkey to close their laser gap with the Rockefellers and the world Zionist conspiracy. Has anyone told Pat Robertson about this?

yes, there are 'dolphins of war' 09.Jan.2004 13:34

web

 http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=dolphins+of+war

The universal declaration of human rights should include animal rights. Animals should be neutrals we all look up to during wars.

Triple "huh?" 09.Jan.2004 13:52

Voice in the Wilderness

I'm trying to get this straight... So because I don't happen to believe that a "laser" was used in the destruction of the world trade center (my chemistry/physics background says a really big plane loaded with fuel would do just as well, and is oh so much simpler) means I am "lost in Bush's wilderness?" Uh, OK.

Look Merlin - obviously we have laser guided planes, missles, bombs, etc. No argument here. But the point of the original post appears to be to suggest that a laser was used in an <offensive capacity>, not for guidance. Please read the post again. It says, speaking of the technology the poster implies was responsible:

"The hope is that the jets would then be able to use the laser to destroy the missile at an offensive stage rather than a defensive one. "

<No where> in the post does it speak of "guidance." And using a laser to paint a target is a far cry from using one to cause the type of destruction seen in New York City. Blowing up a missle - sure. Blowing up a building? Let's all say it - "Battlestar Galactica.".

And, by the way, none of this has anything to do with my politics - it's pure science, and my knowledge of such things. I am not a Bush "sheep," and whether or not I approve of Bush's (horrendous) stance on the enviroment, his (dangerous) foreign policies, or his (amoral) economics plans has no bearing on who destroyed the WTC, or how they did it. It's just that my rational, reasonably well educated mind tells me that the more plausible explanation is that there are people from without who hate this country for much the same reasons as those within, and that they didn't need the pResident's assistance to take us to task - the inadequacy of our own intelligence and the apathy of the "politicians" on both sides of the isle in Washington allowed them to accomplish this quite nicely.

How silly of me 09.Jan.2004 14:25

Newton

The plot grows more convoluted and overly complex everytime I come here. So now the planes were guided by laser? Or did the laser cause the fires? So the remote controlled military-planes-painted-to-look-like-airliners are no longer an adequate explanation for you folks? I suppose the lasers simply ignited the thermite or triggered the thousands of kilos of dynamite secretly rigged in the buildings. In any event, do you realize how many people must be involved in your conspiracy fantasy by now? It must number in the thousands -- good thing they can all keep a secret so well!

well, please provide your pure scientific analysis then 09.Jan.2004 14:55

?

quote:

"I'm trying to get this straight..."

--no, you are attempting to hijack the thread.

quote:
" So because I don't happen to believe. . ."

I leave the "believing" to you. I was offering evidence, then you, claiming to be mr. scientist, invents some philosphical argument without recourse to one fact that can be demonstrated and shared. If you are a scientist, the point is how you come up with another explanation for the video and images, instead of shut your eyes. That is the coverage here.

quote:
"It's just that my rational, reasonably well educated mind

--you really think a lot of yourself, right? based on what? You have offered nothing to this thread, except the grunt of 'huh' over and over, likely three times as the first two posts are so close to each other. Trust me if you are born in this country, you are not well educated at all, even if you went to college. Lower high school level stuff for the rest of the world is called "higher education" in America.

quote:
"tells me that the more plausible explanation

--plausible explanations, mr. prideful scientist that you think you are, are based on data and example--which you provide none.

quote:
"is that there are people from without who hate this country for much the same reasons as those within, and that they didn't need the pResident's assistance to take us to task - the inadequacy of our own intelligence and the apathy of the "politicians" on both sides of the isle in Washington allowed them to accomplish this quite nicely."

--Inadequacy of our own intelligence, eh? So you must be on the 9-11 commission, right? Since you claim to be a scientist, right? Or is that just more empty pride and bluster? This implies that you have read over all the intelligence, which you have not because much of it still being kept from the public. Forgive me, I'm attempting to show how you imply that you have been reading this off limits stuff, if you claim to be a scientist. Even Kean says 9-11 could have been avoided, and he has been looking into the data.

So you think you are rational? Well, perhaps there's hope for you. Willingly Ignorant, nonetheless. A brain is unable to think without information, and yours sounds like it is starving. So, mr. scientist, at last. What do you make of the multiple images? What you do is come back, after describing each one.

Though let me cut to the chase. What you are doing is creating a philosphical argument instead of a 'scientific' argument, and that is all I believe your feeble mind is capable of doing. Prove me wrong. There is nothing tangible you reference in your whole note. Let your senses absorb some information that tests your hypotheses, mr. scientist, instead of being afraid of it.

Once your are conscious of your original biases, write them out for us, then attempt to poke holes in your own theory. It is the only way to learn.

You have no evidence for your 'foreign terrorists theory' that you present. How did you come up with such an outlandish theory? You must have facts related to 9-11 about this right? Beware, troll, get them straight. I think you are nothing except bluster. I am waiting. Unless you address the issue next time, you lose, and I sadly upgrade your classification of willingly ignorant to irremediably stupid--because I will refuse to have anything else to do with you, mr. triple 'huh.'

What's the point? 09.Jan.2004 17:35

Larry

Let's assume, for the sake of argument, that there are lasers and a pod(s) on the belly of the planes. What are you proposing is the purpose of these devices? In other words, why is it necessary for these devices to exist in order for the planes to crash into the buildings, the fuel to ignite the contents of the buildings, the heat to weaken the steel, and the buildings to fall.

Who is the troll here? 09.Jan.2004 17:49

V.I.T.W

First of all, YOU (presumably) posted the article, so it is up to YOU to show facts, which YOU do not. You mention 9/11 in the title of your post, but the article itself has nothing <whatsover> to do with it, nor do you provide any proof that the "Israeli technology" (which I'm sure does exist - no argument there) actually played a part in that occurence.

The listed links on the later post (which I assume to be yours as well, but can't be sure since you don't seem to want to adopt a moniker for yourself and carry it through) are nothing more than pointers to a tabloid website. There is no way for me or anyone else to know that these video captures and still frames were not doctored, any more than you can know that they weren't. We could argue this pointlessly all day, unless you are with the FDNY and shot them yourself from atop your hook and ladder.

Now I will address the points you made, one by one:

First:

"You are attempting to hijack the thread."

- No, I am attempting to call to the carpet someone who I feel is espousing something I believe to be factually inaccurate, and something for which they have provided no factual basis other than tabloid journalism. This is what Portland Indymedia is all about.

Second:

"I leave the believing to you..."

- I base my beliefs on facts, not emotional reactions to one piece of evidence, like a video tape capture or still frame, which is VERY easily altered, and of which I have no verification from whence it came.. Show me facts beyond photos, and we'll talk.

Third:

"you really think alot of yourself, right?"

- No, actually if I thought "alot" of myself, I would have said "I think alot of myself." What I said is that I have a rational, <reasonably> well educated mind, which I stand by. I'm sure you do too, when you can keep yourself to reasoned argument and away from personal attacks.

Fourth:

"plausible explanations, mr. prideful scientist that you think you are, are based on data and example--which you provide none"

Hmmm.... Prideful scientist. If I was, in fact, such, I would undoubtedly make much more money than I do now, and would probably not have a proclivity toward anarchist leanings. I never said I was a scientist sir / ma'am - what I said was that my physics/chemistry background tells me it's very believable (there's that word you hate again) that the planes caused the towers to come down. My physics/chem background does not go beyond college, and is not extensive (I never said it was), but taht's the point - it doens't need to be to know that these planes could have caused these towers to come down.

As for facts, please see this link; It describes how the towers came down and it's from the Journal of Mineral, Metals, and Materials" website:

 http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/ 0112/Eagar/Eagar-0112.html

Of course we all know that the pResident has the "Journal of Mineral, Metals, and Materials" in his back pocket.

In closing, I leave you another quote, from one of your own links ( http://www.rense.com/general41/bo.htm). It is a quote from an "airframe powerplant mechanic." At least that's what he claims to be in your link, which I assume you verified or you wouldn't have referred to it. He states:

"A freind emailed me your picture of the 767-200 with what appears to be a object mounted there. I am a A&P/ IA that means I am Airframe Powerplant mechanic that has a Inspection Authorization from the FAA. What you are seeing is the wheel well area on the air craft possibly being pulled open by the violent bank into the building that is most likley what you are seeing I could go into detail on stresses etc. on airframes but I do not have a week to write this. All I can say is all it would take is the inboard door to lift a inch and you would get the optical illusion of a center-line mounted object. But you are right about there not being a center line mount but it's nothing to get concerned over unless you know these aircraft inside and out. A small thing can make any aircraft seem to have strange things mounted to them.
Thank you,
Dallas "

Thanks for the fun, but in the future try and refrain from personal attacks on intellect as it demeans your argument. I'm sure you are an intelligent, concerned person - and we really don't disagree deep down. We both know where the hate in the world is generated; we just don't agree on how (and at the hands of whom) it manifests itself.

You challenge me to open my eyes and see what's in front of me; I ask you to see what's in front of you and question it.

'Nite

oops... 09.Jan.2004 18:44

V.I.T.W.

Sorry - here's the correct link to the JOM article on the towers instead of their home page...

 http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/0112/Eagar/Eagar-0112.html

By the way "heimdallr," you got the link to the laser sharks/donkeys?

Preposterous 09.Jan.2004 19:08

Newton

Thank you, VITW, for the link to the JOM article. It's always refreshing to read analyses by thoughtful and educated people.

Question mark person wrote:
"Trust me if you are born in this country, you are not well educated at all, even if you went to college. Lower high school level stuff for the rest of the world is called "higher education" in America."

How absurd. Not educated, as compared to whom? The US has most of the finest universities in the world (kudos to IIT and Oxbridge). American-educated people have produced nearly all of the most significant scientific/engineering developments of our lifetimes-to-date. To name a few: recombinant DNA technology, PCR, DNA sequencers, personal computers, Internet/networking, this week's Mars landing.

It's clear you hate the US -- but stating preposterous statements as fact only makes you look foolish.

I don't know what brought down the towers 09.Jan.2004 20:55

1538C

But I do know it wasn't the planes. One of the better reads, I think, is here:

 http://www.serendipity.li/wot/mslp_i.htm
 http://www.serendipity.li/wot/mslp_ii.htm

The fire caused by the planes has never been proven to have sufficiently weakened the steel structure of the building. While I think controlled demolition is a lot more rational than a chemical laser, I think it's always good to be asking questions when too few people are.

sadly, it's true 09.Jan.2004 21:04

teacher

People in the United States, who are not stupid by any means, are surprisingly ignorant. This has been verified time and time again in studies asking basic questions to equivalent age groups in the US and in other countries. It was not so long ago that we learned that only 13% of people in the United States of ages 18-24 could find Iraq on a map and only 17% could find Afghanistan falling behind every European country and only barely edging out Mexico. And it's not just been geography but history, domestic and foreign policy, art, literature, and even basic science. But rather than claim all that understand this "hate America" it is much better to recognize the problem and work to solve it. Allowing ourselves to be ignorant to our ignorance serves to benefit no one.

it is clear 09.Jan.2004 21:11

cynic

"It's clear you hate the US"

You're right, Newton, "stating preposterous statements as fact" (love the repetition) does indeed only serve to make you look foolish. Thanks for taking the time to illustrate your point so nicely.

Basic science? 09.Jan.2004 22:17

Newton

"And it's not just been geography but history, domestic and foreign policy, art, literature, and even basic science."

I'd like to see your survey results for the topics you mention above. The 2003 Gaskell, Allum, & Stares survey -- asking the same questions as the EU's annual Eurobarometer survey -- shows that Americans have a better knowledge of science and genetic modification than Europeans.

(the "hating the US" comment had nothing to do with questionmark's statement about education)

Ok, one last thing... 09.Jan.2004 22:20

V.I.T.W

To teacher,

I do agree with you that while in the US we are not stupid (thanks Newton) by any means, we are often ignorant of the concerns of the rest of the world. Ignorant, or possibly indifferent is a better word, living in the bubble we do.

As to the mideast conflict, however, and it's relation to 911, I do have some knowledge. I've been to the middle east nearly a dozen times, and have witnessed the hatred between the two sides firsthand - and even from in between.

I will say this... in my opinion, this conflict will not be solved by talks, agreements, or treaties. It is thousands of years old, and as you state, we in America have no concept nor frame of reference for this type of ongoing, all-consuming vehemence.

Do I pretend to have an answer? No, if I did I would undoubtedly be elected King of All I Survey. But do I recognize the problem, and realize that it impacts the rest of the world to the extent that it harms innocents every waking day - from those in the WTC, to those in the West Bank? Yes, and at least dialogue like this gets everyone on both sides thinking...

on American ignorance~~by the new de Toqueville, Valdas Anelauskas 09.Jan.2004 23:14

another teacher

As most comments (sadly even mine) are lured away from the laser topic, I am unable to resist backing up 'teacher' on this. Check this out. A Mexican friend of mine says after reading it, and living in the US for some time, that even this book was "too easy on the U.S. and it was holding back."

Discovering America As It Is
by Valdas Anelauskas

Editorial Reviews

From the Publisher

This book sheds light on the use and abuse of unsuspecting foreign human rights activists by US officials, agencies and conservative groups as they seek to forward US foreign policy objectives through human rights complaints.

Anelauskas' revelations punch holes through the public policy platitudes surrounding the Republican Contract With America, and reveal in shocking terms the impact recent public policy has had upon the American body politic. Even more significant than present effects are the projections that are drawn from these "facts on the ground."

How does American capitalism treat its citizens, compared to capitalism in other countries in Europe and elsewhere? Anelauskas provides copious amounts of up-to-the -minute comparative documentation on indicators of social well being in health, education, housing, the environment, etc., not only concerning the U.S., but also concerning a range of European and other capitalist countries. His sources range from government statistics, mainstream newspapers and business publications, to studies by international organizations, highly reputed non-governmental organizations (NGOs), and institutes.


From the Back Cover

Discovering America As It Is raises serious questions not only concerning America's role as a leading model for development, but even as to its future competitiveness due to the deterioration in the well-being of the American people resulting from antisocial domestic and foreign policies.

"This is an extraordinary book, especially startling not because it is a diligently researched and scathing critique of contemporary America, but because it is written by a Soviet dissident who arrived here with great expectations and discovered a sobering reality. The scope of the book is breathtaking, a sweeping survey, factually precise and philosophically provocative , which deserves to be compared to de Tocqueville's 19th century classic. I hope it will be widely read." Howard Zinn, Professor Emeritus, Boston University, author of A People's History of the United States

"Anelauskas' examination of many dimensions of current and past realities of the United States is a veritable tour de force. He avoided the usual approach to deal with these dimensions as separate fragments, each with supposedly separate solutions, but traced them to their underlying common roots in the dynamics of the capitalist institutions and ideology of this society and its culture. Teachers and students of social sciences, history, and philosophy will find in this book a rich source for understanding the forces which shape the quality of our lives and human relations, at home and abroad." David G. Gil, Professor of Social Policy, Director, Center for Social Change, Heller Graduate School, Brandeis University

"Valdas Anelauskas' Discovering America As It Is illuminates the dark corners of U.S. history and current events, and draws all the right conclusions. If just one-in-ten lifelong Americans had ever bothered themselves to learn as much about their country as has this recent Lithuanian immigrant, the horrors he writes about would never have existed. This is must reading for the entire population." Ward Churchill, activist and author of "A Little Matter of Genocide: Holocaust and Denial in the Americas, 1492 to the Present."


About the Author
Valdas Anelauskas was born into a wealthy landowning family in Lithuania. His father fought in the Lithuanian resistance and spent 10 years -- longer than Soltsenitsyn --- in the Russian GUlag.. As a Lithuanian nationalist, Valdas Anelauskas was involved in the resistance movement for Lithuanian independence almost from birth. He was first arrested by the KGB at the age of 14, and later joined the broader dissident movement for human rights as an independent journalist in the anti-Soviet samizdat. He wrote for Radio Liberty/Radio Free Europe; some of his articles were also used by the London Times, Associated Press and others. In 1988, on the anniversary of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, he renounced his Soviet citizenship and was ejected from the Soviet Union soon after. Upon his arrival in the U.S. as a high profile political dissident, Anelauskas initially cooperated with several right wing organizations seeking the collapse of the Soviet Union, among them the notorious Anti-Bolshevik Bloc of Nations, the World Anti-Communist League, and others. He addressed the 17th annual Conservative Political Action Conference as a featured speaker, alongside Newt Gingrich, Jesse Helms, Eliot Abrams, Robert Bork and other leading conservative spokepersons. When he discovered the elitist nature and goals of American conservative organizations, his association with them terminated. Recalling his earlier activities with shame and chagrin, Anelauskas now regards himself as the naive victim of American propaganda, and of officials of its various agencies. and institutions, who sought to achieve, not human rights, but power, by the Soviet demise.As in his days as an anti-Soviet dissident, Valdas Anelauskas remains, to this day, a fearless seeker of truth and a staunch defender of all human rights -- not simply the civil and political rights which he sought for his native Lithuania, but the full gamut of international human rights, including socio-economic and cultural rights as well. He speaks and writes in four languages. He lives in Eugene, Oregon, and travels frequently in Europe.


Book Description
DISCOVERING AMERICA AS IT IS, is a monumental study of the devastating effect American-style capitalism has been having on the American people. It raises serious questiona leading model for development, but even as to its future capacity to compete due to the deterioration of its human capital resulting from anti-social domestic policies.

Anelauskas, a Lithuanian patriot and former anti-Soviet dissident, paints an extraordinary portrait of the America he discovered the America as it exists for most Americans. While it has been argued that capitalism in Russia failed because the Russians "didn't know how to do it," in the United States, the veritable beacon of world capitalism, capitalism doetwo-decades-long love affair with its free market gurus under Democrats and Republicans alike, gutted the body politic, leaving the American Dream of prosperity for the ordinary man little more than a charade the U.S. corporate, media and government elite successfully fronts to a credulous world.

Twelve highly-documented chapters on poverty, crime, health, education, homelessness, the deterioration of the family, income inequities and the replacement of welfare by workfare detail the public disarray which results from an unfettered system of great wealth where the rich determine the social priorities.

In thousands of citations, Anelauskas documents the precipitous plunge in living standards of American citizens, measured not only against the standards enjoyed by citizens in other capitalist countries in the industrialized world, but against their own past levels. Among the many searing results: in all categories that measure economic equity, citizens of all other industrialized countries generally fare better than do Americans.

This blistering reality is culled from innumerable researches by international organizations, domestic and international NGOs, independent U.S. think tanks, journalists, scholars, and even from American government sources, documented in over 80 pages of endnotes. While most critiques focus on one social sector or another, this multidimensional study brings them all together, and the impact is staggering. What this book enables us to grasp intellectually and emotionally is the predatory and wasteful operation of unbridled capitalism in its systemic dimensions, and the needless, preventable injury it wreaks upon millions. The linkages between government, wealth, poverty and policy, the conflicts between elite interest and collective well-being, clarify as we read.

Here are just a few of many mind-catching findings scattered liberally throughout the book: An American child has one chance in 432 of becoming a doctor -- but one chance in five of growing up illiterate. One in four Americans working full time does not earn enough to stay above the official poverty line. "Food insecure households" add up to over 34 million people. The notion that stock ownership is widespread in America is absolutely false -- the bottom 90 percent of Americans own 15.6 percent of stocks (including through mutual funds), while the bottom eighty percent onlyShape," elaborates the socio-military resources and paradigms which serve to entrench and extend American hegemony, as it seeks to deflect global efforts to institute the rule of international law, and to turn the world back to the rule of force. From the expropriation of Indian lands, and the exploitation of African labor, to a taste for empire which spread to the continental rim, then jumped across many waters in a hundred-year history of invasions all around the globe, culminating at last in the hegemonic military-economic grip on the world by what many in the Third World view as a Rogue Superpower -- from domestic colonialism to imperial America -- this is America as it is.

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A new de Toqueville, June 12, 2003
Reviewer: oakshaman (see more about me) from Sturgeon Bay, WI United States
Sometimes it takes an outsider to cut through the wishful thinking, and outright lies, and make you see your country as it truly is. That is why history departments still quote Alexis de Toqueville as an unbiased outside observer after all these years. I suspect that future historians may refer to this book in the same manner.

The author, a former anti-Soviet dissident, once saw the American political and corporate power structure as an ally and role model. Then, upon actually seeing the reality of the American capitalist system, first hand, and on it's own turf, he began to realise that it was just the "other end of the same stick" when compared to Soviet state capitalism. He saw it was the same old story, a small elite at the top benefitting from everything while spinning an illusion of lies. This massive volume shows the facts of the corporate/government/military monolith that has usurped the true Ameican Democracy.

Read this, sometimes it takes an intelligent outsider to show you how badly you have been fooled.


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Best of the Best, October 2, 2000
Reviewer: dkutzik from Philadelphia, PA USA
Anelauskas' book is a tour de force which could only have been written by a person brutally disillusioned with the candy-coated image of America as an ideal democracy. It is a must read for all seeking a serious critical examination of the fundamental institutions of American capitalism. Impassioned, yet dispassionately objective in its recounting of facts, it injects the reader with moral imperative to rethink the most basic assumptions of our political order. Not since Tocqeville has such an insightful outsider's inside view of America been written. I will use it in my courses and am recommending it to my friends.


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I need at least one MORE star., August 6, 2000
Reviewer: mausmiss1 (see more about me) from Frankfurt Deutschland
This is the best book to date on the subject of the "state of the nation". I highly recommend it to EVERYBODY. Twenty bucks well spent! Anelauskas steam rolls through the American political and social landscape meticulously covering every angle - backing it up with facts.


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Some Books Just Have To Be Read, November 6, 2003
Reviewer: potuspotus (see more about me) from New York, NY USA
And this is one. It doesn't matter what your political persuasion is, this book will open your eyes and make you think. Sometimes you need to see another point of view to help you understand your own.

This book was out of print until civil rights lawyer Michael O'Neill underwrote the second printing. Until then, it was impossible to find a used copy of this book anywhere. This is an important book, and I recommend you buy it now before it goes out of print again.


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As far as America-bashing goes, this one's not too bad, September 8, 2003
Reviewer: Andrius Uzkalnis (see more about me) from Reading, Berkshire, United Kingdom
Don't get me wrong: I disagree with Anelauskas on almost every count. We used to have long discussions with him over e-mail, and there are few people further apart than him and I in our thoughts and convictions. The closest things about Anelauskas and myself is that we're both Lithuanians.

I think, however, that in the crowded and ungrateful industry of bashing America this man is among the more skilled ones: definitely a better writer than the celebrated (but talentless) Michael Moore. Yes, in common with other militant left-wingers, Anelauskas rarely allows factual truth to stand in the way of his ideological convictions, but there are no shameless fabrications here or totally rabid ramblings that Moore often plunges into.

Anelauskas' research is impressive: he did dig deep to get all the facts and quotes together. This skill alone could elevate him to the rank of first-grade journalists; sadly, facts here are hand-picked only to support the ideas directed and shaped by ideology.

Anelauskas is candid: he does not conceal that his hatred of America is, in many cases, just sour grapes. He came to America with inflated expectations of a Soviet dissident and was let down. He now hates America with the same black-and-white passion with which he once hated the communist regime. Fair enough, but he never asks himself (and never responds when asked) - if America is so awfully bad, how come it does not have to build fences to keep people in, like Soviet Union had to do?

And if capitalism is so wrong and so bad for the people, how come you don't see queues of people trying to get to Cuba or North Korea? Valdas Anelauskas prefers not to answer this.

Then again, on the positive side - the man is a skilled writer and manages to keep his book readable and entertaining (not a bad achievement for a publication so full of figures and percentages).

It's probably one of the more enjoyable books which I managed to read back to back without agreeing with its author.


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Must Reading for Anyone Who Cares About this Nation, December 16, 2000
Reviewer: Samuel Freeman (see more about me) from Edinburg, Texas United States
Anelauskas does the American people a huge favor in writing this book. Had it been written by someone born in the U.S., the author would have been denounced as a subversive communist traitor and invited to move to Russia. But Anelauskas was born in Lithuania and grew up under Soviet imperialism. He knows the system well. Until coming to the U.S., he had few kind words for it, which earned him repeated arrest and, ultimately, exile to the U.S., where he took up with the likes of Newt Gingrinch and Phil Gramm. Being an intelligent and educated person, it did not take him long to see through the lies of the American right. In retrospect, he now sees there were some positive qualities to the USSR. The irony is not lost on him, and it is somewhat discomforting to me--having no love lost for the Soviet model--as he says some things were better, and certainly more humane, in the USSR than in the U.S. Yet, it is hard to argue he is not correct.

Discovering America As It Is systematically exposes the lies of the American right, Republicans AND Democrats alike. Some of Anelauskas' most scathing comments are reserved for Republican in Democrat drag, Bill Clinton, whom Anelauskas clearly demonstrates waged an even more merciless and devastating war against the least affluent 40% of the American population than did Reagan. Anyone who thinks a (Daddy George) Bush or Dole presidency would have been more harmful to the poor, or who thinks, somehow, Al Gore would be the "lesser of the evils" will have to reexamine their logic after reading Discovering America.

Anelauskas' work is meticulously documented from a myriad of sources--academic scholarship, poll data, census data, think tanks, studies by agencies of international organizations such as the United Nations, non-governmental organizaitons, government data from the U.S. and other nations, particularly other capitalist nations. The sheer volume of information, of sources, and the consistency of the data, truly, is astounding. During the recent presidential election, George Dubya raised the spectre of "class warfare" in response to (another Republican in Democrat drag) Al Gore's so-called "populist" nomination acceptance speech. The data Anelauskas presents makes it crystal clear there is a long running class war in the U.S.--a war of the most affluent 10% of the population against the other 90%. And the 10% are winning!, primarily because they control all of the major institutions of soceity; in partiuclar the political institutions, schools, media and churches.

Anyone who reads this book should recognize Alan Greenspan, Phil Gramm, Milton Friedman, and David Horowitz for the lying charlatans they are. Anyone who reads this book should realize the Democrat party is as much the party of the propertied class as the Republican party. And anyone who thinks the there is any worthiness to capitalism as an economic system, or who believes the propertied class is not waging unremitting class war against eveyone else should consider the words, not of Karl Marx, but of Abraham Lincoln: "These capitalists act harmoniously and in concert to fleece the people."

If I were to fault Anelauskas, it would be for implying America's "ultra-capitalism" is some perverse, grotesquely mutated version of an otherwise viable economic ideology. One need only read the originators of capitalist ideology--Malthus, Ricardo, Adam Smith--to see they fully understood what they were creating. They knew capitalism would be a tremendously productive economic system; but, as they followed the logic of the economic principles they were developing and articulating, they also realized it was a system which eventually reduces virtually the entire population of capitalist societies to starvation while all the wealth becomes vested in the hands of an ever shrinking elite. As they themselves predicted, capitalism is an economic system which ultimately destroys itself and takes everyone with it. It, quite literally, is the Titanic of economic systems; and its advocates preach it is unsinkable. Because the version of capitalism practiced in most European nations is not as pure, not as true to the principles of capitalist ideology as in the U.S., the inherently destructive consequences of the ideology are not as pronounced and as profound as in the U.S. The European nations may be "behind" us, but what is happening here will happen to them; it is inherent in the logic of capitalist ideology.

That fault notwithstanding, the book is superb. Only the blindest of readers will not be profoundly affected and disturbed.


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A way to get the truth about what we are surrounded by., June 16, 1999
Reviewer: An Amazon.com Customer

This is the source of information I use in real life. I recommend this book to those who have increased sensitivity to fallacy than the others, who are satisfied with Wall Street J, San Jose Mercury news or New York Times. This book is a must for those who want to look around at the society, life stile and people, who want to grow up kids with the awareness and capability to analyze the world and the truth.


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I had the pleasure of reading some of Valdas' other writings, May 26, 1999
Reviewer: An Amazon.com Customer

I must say that the man is indeed a controversial mind compared to other brilliant writers. His vieuw on the social systems worldwide is so profound & his ideas very well documented that this work will most certainly shake up the all American concience. Even as a Western European I often feel the blood boil in my vains, but at the end of each essay I mostly had to admit: "My goodness, he was right after all". The abstracts of his latest book - I found on his website- give you an impression of his talents. Thou his style reads easily, it does grabs you by the nuts & pulls you with both your feet back on the ground. Certainly not a book for socially anorexic citizens. His writings give a deep vieuw into the American heart & rip off the mask of a society in distress!


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what a thread we are weaving here this evening: clarifications 10.Jan.2004 00:55

original poster

Though I think there is nothing easier than reading, it seems that a lot of (hopefully unintentional and untroll-like) statements have grown onto my original article, obscuring it:

someone wrote, quote:
"While I think controlled demolition is a lot more rational than a chemical laser, I think it's always good to be asking questions when too few people are."

Thanks for the back-handed compliment, because asking questions about this odd flash and later, thanks to Merlin (who provides an interesting assessment I had yet to hear about the WTC2 plane pod, as potentially some sort of evidence of a homing technology to the WTC2, based on his experience in the past), he reminds me how great IMCs can be. Asking questions and sharing information and lines of inquiry was all I was attempting to do, to flesh out some of the details that have almost entirely been rubbed out of the US government's cover-up of these interesting details.

What is so interesting to me about these little nuances of WTC1's laser-like flash and WTC2's planes' odd looking pod (whatever they were), is that someone goes to the trouble of editing out the evidence. Regardless of what they are, one rule of thumb I tend to value highly is that intentional attempts at omission (or lots of troll comments) are a form of evidence and an evidence of someone being connected to this by a motive. I think it is evidence in itself that you may be onto something when you can find evidence that the details themselves are actively supressed by someone else or gather lots of troll comments, so trolls encourage me like a compass that I am pointing in interesting directions. It seems that the evidence is important enough for someone to hide (as in that missing flash at WTC1 on the 'misremembering 9-11' DVD & on the Guiliani 'documentary' propoganda that digitally edit it out as well)--see the original link in the original post. And what about Boeing going through 10 days of analysis on the pod on one of their planes, talking about it, then someone from above saying they are unable to make a statement in the name of "national security?" The human actions are what is interesting as much as the data.

However, to clarify:

1. No where did I suggest that this was an "either/or" sort of proposition between controlled demolitions and chemical lasers.

2. and moreover, no where did I suggest that buildings fell because of a chemical laser. Note that the buildings collapsing was simply a whole point I left unaddressed.

3. All I am talking about is the the strong hypothesis that what explains the flash may have been a laser plane of some sort, bundled into the 9-11 hits, as a 'proof of concept' demonstration or something by the US military; and second, if so, that the COIL would be a fine candidate for the WTC1 hit. Instead of THE candidate I say "a" candidate. That is all I am saying.

4. Method: I prefer to base what I write on external sharable evidence, cited as well as I can. Something in the tangible world for all to see and debate and hopefully spur on some more actual research. This includes human actions (and the fact that they make a statement or don't make a statement) as much as physical items.

5. The devil is in the details. The more details we know the better are our explanations of what really happened, and where Bush is capable of (mis)leading us on.

6. Getting involved in philsophical debates on plausability/implausability or rationality/irrationality are just name calling words, and a waste of time. It shows to me that someone is either a well paid troll or someone is tugging at an internal mental tether that blocks further thought along a certain line and would rather bark at you than talk about their mental block on analysis of what you have placed before them. I read somewhere that psychologists call this phenomena an 'emotional slide,' when some empirical topic under discussion can radically change a person's mental state, like entirely disconnecting a persons ability to use their mental faculties of analysis. Whenever it is mentioned they slide into emotional reaction instead of analysis. It is pretty easy to recognize these learned emotional slides on certain topics. Evidence of state terror against one's own people is one that many people have an emotional slide with. Well, Good night. Perhaps I'll make a shark-mounted laser image. That sounds interesting. ;-)

Imagination 10.Jan.2004 12:25

TheBunn

Maybe I'm just blind or something, but I don't see any flash in that picture. I see a low rez, shoddy picture, but that's about all I can make out.

little animated .gif FOLLOWED BY better quality VIDEO showing WTC1 laser hit 10.Jan.2004 19:54

original poster

The later video posted is clearer, at the same link. Second, there is the additional evidence of cover-up motive--that someone edited the flashes out! Guiliani by the way has sealed (illegally) all his NYC Mayoral documents. Guiliani hired German and British corporations to clean up the areas of the WTC site that had molten steel in the basement for weeks. I would love to see Guiliani get the electric chair for this cover-up. As I said above, Guiliani, Inc.'s video removed this flash from its (misleading) documentary. Edited it out! . Plus, the 'Misremembering 9-11' DVD of our dear corporate state edited it out--decided the proles shoudl stop looking into elitist laser planes and such stuff.

the link:

WTC1 9-11 plane had BRIGHT FLASH before striking showing IT'S NOT COMMERCIAL JET [see images]
 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2003/12/275927.shtml [go lower, to where you see other images of the WTCs on this page, It is past the first image. The later is a Quicktime movie image you can play over and over.]

A whole additional issue that has been discussed before is the pictures of the "demolition squibs" up and down WTC1, WTC2, and WTC7 which I have seen. How many people have seen the WTC7 collapse, all by itself, without a plane hit?! If you, scroll back over the 9-11 Investigation over several months (newswire link at the bottom of the page on that subsection) on the Portland IMC and you will find some great images of demolition squibs on the WTCs and the WTC7 demolition images/video.

Yea right 10.Jan.2004 20:59

Newton

"Guiliani hired German and British corporations to clean up the areas of the WTC site that had molten steel in the basement for weeks."

Yea right. The basement was 2500°F+ for weeks? What part of your conspiracy fantasy explains this phenomenon?

the molten steel? only a story from Tully, Inc., who cleaned it up, troll. 13.Jan.2004 14:18

9-11 watcher

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Peter Tully, president of Tully Construction of Flushing, N.Y., told AFP that he saw pools of "literally molten steel" at the World Trade Center.

Tully was contracted after the Sept. 11 tragedy to remove the debris from the site.

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Where have you been? Watching Faux News?

First, care to comment on the thread of this topic, troll? We're all ready for you!

Second, obviously you are NOT the Newton who knew about physics, only a scared little troll. And if you say it is jet fuel, I have a trap set for you! So go ahead!




NEW SEISMIC DATA REFUTES OFFICIAL EXPLANATION

Two unexplained "spikes" in the seismic record from Sept. 11 indicate huge bursts of energy shook the ground beneath the World Trade Center's twin towers immediately prior to the collapse.



Exclusive to American Free Press

By Christopher Bollyn



American Free Press has learned of pools of "molten steel" found at the base of the collapsed twin towers weeks after the collapse. Although the energy source for these incredibly hot areas has yet to be explained, New York seismometers recorded huge bursts of energy, which caused unexplained seismic "spikes" at the beginning of each collapse.

These spikes suggest that massive underground explosions may have literally knocked the towers off their foundations, causing them to collapse.

In the basements of the collapsed towers, where the 47 central support columns connected with the bedrock, hot spots of "literally molten steel" were discovered more than a month after the collapse. Such persistent and intense residual heat, 70 feet below the surface, in an oxygen starved environment, could explain how these crucial structural supports failed.

Peter Tully, president of Tully Construction of Flushing, N.Y., told AFP that he saw pools of "literally molten steel" at the World Trade Center.

Tully was contracted after the Sept. 11 tragedy to re move the debris from the site.

Tully called Mark Loizeaux, president of Controlled Demolition, Inc. (CDI) of Phoenix, Md., for consultation about removing the debris. CDI calls itself "the innovator and global leader in the controlled demolition and implosion of structures."

Loizeaux, who cleaned up the bombed Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City, arrived at the WTC site two days later and wrote the clean-up plan for the entire operation.

AFP asked Loizeaux about the report of molten steel on the site.

"Yes," he said, "hot spots of molten steel in the basements."

These incredibly hot areas were found "at the bottoms of the elevator shafts of the main towers, down seven [basement] levels," Loizeaux said.

The molten steel was found "three, four, and five weeks later, when the rubble was being removed," Loizeaux said. He said molten steel was also found at 7 WTC, which collapsed mysteriously in the late afternoon.

Construction steel has an extremely high melting point of about 2,800 degrees Fahrenheit.

Asked what could have caused such extreme heat, Tully said, "Think of the jet fuel."

Loizeaux told AFP that the steel-melting fires were fueled by "paper, carpet and other combustibles packed down the elevator shafts by the tower floors as they 'pancaked' into the basement."

However, some independent investigators dispute this claim, saying kerosene-based jet fuel, paper, or the other combustibles normally found in the towers, cannot generate the heat required to melt steel, especially in an oxygen-poor environment like a deep basement.

Eric Hufschmid, author of a book about the WTC collapse, Painful Questions,* told AFP that due to the lack of oxygen, paper and other combustibles packed down at the bottom of elevator shafts would probably be "a smoky smoldering pile."

Experts disagree that jet-fuel or paper could generate such heat.

This is impossible, they say, because the maximum temperature that can be reached by hydrocarbons like jet-fuel burning in air is 1,520 degrees F. Because the WTC fires were fuel rich, as evidenced by the thick black smoke, it is argued that they did not reach this upper limit.

The hottest spots at the surface of the rubble, where abundant oxygen was available, were much cooler than the molten steel found in the basements.

Five days after the collapse, on Sept. 16, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) used an Airborne Visible/Infrared Imaging Spectrometer (AVIRIS) to locate and measure the site's hot spots.

Dozens of hot spots were mapped, the hottest being in the east corner of the South Tower where a temperature of 1,377 degrees F was recorded.

This is, however, less than half as hot at the molten steel in the basement.

The foundations of the twin towers were 70 feet deep. At that level, 47 huge box columns, connected to the bedrock, supported the entire gravity load of the structures. The steel walls of these lower box columns were four inches thick.

Videos of the North Tower collapse show its communication mast falling first, indicating that the central support columns must have failed at the very beginning of the collapse. Loizeaux told AFP, "Everything went simultaneously."

"At 10:29 the entire top section of the North Tower had been severed from the base and began falling down," Hufschmid writes. "If the first event was the falling of a floor, how did that progress to the severing of hundreds of columns?"

Asked if the vertical support columns gave way before the connections between the floors and the columns, Ron Hamburger, a structural engineer with the FEMA assessment team said, "That's the $64,000 question."

Loizeaux said, "If I were to bring the towers down, I would put explosives in the basement to get the weight of the building to help collapse the structure."

SEISMIC 'SPIKES'

Seismographs at Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory in Palisades, N.Y., 21 miles north of the WTC, recorded strange seismic activity on Sept. 11 that has still not been explained.

While the aircraft crashes caused minimal earth shaking, significant earthquakes with unusual spikes occurred at the beginning of each collapse.

The Palisades seismic data recorded a 2.1 magnitude earthquake during the 10-second collapse of the South Tower at 9:59:04 and a 2.3 quake during the 8-second collapse of the North Tower at 10:28:31.

However, the Palisades seismic record shows that—as the collapses began—a huge seismic "spike" marked the moment the greatest energy went into the ground. The strongest jolts were all registered at the beginning of the collapses, well before the falling debris struck the Earth.

These unexplained "spikes" in the seismic data lend credence to the theory that massive explosions at the base of the towers caused the collapses.

A "sharp spike of short duration" is how seismologist Thorne Lay of University of California at Santa Cruz told AFP an underground nuclear explosion appears on a seismograph.

The two unexplained spikes are more than 20 times the amplitude of the other seismic waves associated with the collapses and occurred in the East-West seismic recording as the buildings began to fall.

Experts cannot explain why the seismic waves peaked before the towers actually hit the ground.

Asked about these spikes, seismologist Arthur Lerner-Lam, director of Columbia University's Center for Hazards and Risk Research told AFP, "This is an element of current research and discussion. It is still being investigated."

Lerner-Lam told AFP that a 10-fold increase in wave amplitude indicates a 100-fold increase in energy released. These "short-period surface waves," reflect "the interaction between the ground and the building foundation," according to a report from Columbia Earth Institute.

"The seismic effects of the collapses are comparable to the explosions at a gasoline tank farm near Newark on Jan. 7, 1983," the Palisades Seismology Group reported on Sept. 14, 2001.

One of the seismologists, Won-Young Kim, told AFP that the Palisades seismographs register daily underground explosions from a quarry 20 miles away.

These blasts are caused by 80,000 pounds of ammonium nitrate and cause local earthquakes between Magnitude 1 and 2. Kim said the 1993 truck-bomb at the WTC did not register on the seismographs because it was "not coupled" to the ground.

"Only a small fraction of the energy from the collapsing towers was converted into ground motion," Lerner-Lam said. "The ground shaking that resulted from the collapse of the towers was extremely small."

Last November, Lerner-Lam said: "During the collapse, most of the energy of the falling debris was absorbed by the towers and the neighboring structures, converting them into rubble and dust or causing other damage—but not causing significant ground shaking."

Evidently, the energy source that shook the ground beneath the towers was many times more powerful than the total potential energy released by the falling mass of the towers. The question is: What was that energy source?

While steel is often tested for evidence of explosions, despite numerous eyewitness reports of explosions in the towers, the engineers involved in the FEMA-sponsored building assessment did no such tests.

Dr. W. Gene Corley, who investigated for the government the cause of the fire at the Branch Davidian compound in Waco and the Oklahoma City bombing, headed the FEMA-sponsored engineering assessment of the WTC collapse.

Corley told AFP that while some tests had been done on the 80 pieces of steel saved from the site, he said he did not know about tests that show if an explosion had affected the steel.

"I am not a metallurgist," Corley said.

Much of the structural steel from the WTC was sold to Alan D. Ratner of Metal Management of Newark, N.J., and the New York-based company Hugo Neu Schnitzer East.

Ratner, who heads the New Jersey branch of the Chi ca go-based company, sold the WTC steel to overseas companies, reportedly selling more than 50,000 tons of steel to a Shanghai steel company known as Baosteel for $120 per ton. Ratner paid about $70 per ton for the steel.

Other shipments of steel from the WTC went to India and other Asian ports.

Ratner came to Metal Management after spending years with a metal trading firm known as SimsMetal based out of Sydney, Australia.



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[And the governmental conspiracy theory about 'jet fuel' fails to explain either the WTC7 collapse or the molten steel in WTC7 basements.]