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Answers to questions listed on this site concerning USAVHSSC. Iam the Commander for USAVHSSC.
I can be contacted at 360-882-7106. We are a support unit for any Federal, State, City, County agency that would request help in a time of need. We are a national Command made of up of ex military, retired military, ex police officers, ex federal officers, teachers, Doctors, Nurses, Former Generals and many more. We stay in the communities where we establish units. We do background checks on our personnel. We don't try and take over any agencies we work with, we just suppor when asked . We have a vast back ground of experiance in the units and are trained thru the FEMA, Certs Etc to stay up todate and strive to be professional as possible. We have had the FBI at our meeting in Portland, OR. We have been checked out many times to see who, what and where we are. We encourage any Federal or local agency to come to our meetings and talk with us. We open all meetings with the pledge of alligence and prayer .. We base our structure on a military type bases for the discipline and the way it operates as to how positions are set up.
WE ARE NOT A MILITIA AND WE DO NOT PROMOTE GUNS AND NONE OF OUR PERSONNEL CARRY GUNS. This is against our rules. We support our Democratic form of Goverment. You may call Special Agent Lori Gregory at the Portland FBI office, she has been to our metting and gave a class to us. Hope this helped with some of your questions. My question to you is why not call or contact people before you make such remarks as you did with us with out any knowledge of the subject you talk about. Thank you.

homepage: homepage: http://usavhssc.org
phone: phone: 360-882-7106
address: address: USAVHSSC, PMB164, 16505A, SE 1st St, Vancouver, WA 98684


well now!...that may be all well and fine, but how do we know you're 07.Jan.2004 00:59

not rightwing paramilitary nutters?

yes indeed, I read your statement above...but, am left wondering how do we know that you're not a
rightwing paramiliary nutters group? Just cause ya say you're not? Don't forget that Hitler's Brown
Shirts initially denied they were what they were, denied being gun-toting loonies, denied having an
nefarious agenda...as this is the modus operandus of these sorts...by defination and practice! In
a community such as Portland that has been rocked with serious police "troubles" committed by
seriously troubled men these past few years is NOT one that will take some unknown Commander
at his word. Hell, how do we know it's not Captain Midnight or Commander DooLittle that's the
one signing off as you?

Seriously, with ex-police out killing next-door neighbor's much loved cats, with suspended-cops
that killed young mother in questionable circumstances, with ex-cops jailed for battery/assault
outta jail now, with an assortment of retired-cops that are alcoholic's/mentally disturbed enough to
have gotten out on Medical/Disablity reasons, and those WE THE PEOPLE know nothing about....ALL
out there and seemingly abled to lash-up with your little organization with relative ease (as it's a "blue
brotherhood" doing all the background checking do remember) surely you're NOT that dimwitted as
to think some of us out here wouldn't be questioning, wondering, and asking WHAT IN HELL is all
this about?

You need to realize that while the mainstream media quickly sweeps all these reports of errand and
troubled cops under the rug, it not so with a lot of us out here...we remember, as we're not dazed out
by the unending bullshit propaganda tossed our way by what pretends to be news media, as it seeks
to distort, propagandize, misrepresent, and obfusicate the truth in furtherance of a well-recognized
rightwing nutters agenda by assortment of gun-nutters, funda-religiloonies, super patriots, and just
plain old non-specified crazies that are jumping atop the Biggest Elephant in the circus and hoping
to ride his Big Ass to whatever Heaven he'll carry 'em as they travel down Route 666 to get there!

The problem with such, if indeed it is the case, is that there are a good many (probably the majority)
of us out here that don't want to go to that heaven, don't want to travel down that route, don't want to
ride that elephant, nor want to continue watching the circus performance. We're fucking tired of it,
and are wanting something less juvenile and craving something more sophisticated...rather than a
mere circus with a "ringmaster" running the show of few "stars in the ring", we've got in mind some-
thing along the lines of a symphony orchestra in which everyone plays their own instrument (they are
...themselves!) in coordinated manner with the rest of the community to make angelic music that
is more community enhancing than watching elephant shit all about the circus and peon handler's
running around with shovels cleaning up the mess. No! we're not wanting that at all...and anyone
trying by hookney or crookney to force us to it, against our better wishes, judgement, desires...is,
at the least, worthy of our suspecions and WILL have them till sufficient proof otherwise is given!
Elsewise, we'll resist their "assistance" when they come offering it...as it might not be what we're
wanting, needing, or thinking is to be given us!

Thank you for your posting, and we do look forward to your further communications to set us right
as to any misunderstandings that may have arisen, or any sterotyped images that may be had,
which indeed, in fact, may not be warrented. The ball is now knocked back into your court......

PS: surely you've read enough history to know that Hitler's Brown Shirts were primarily recruited
from exactly same class, grouping, and social ordered types of people you've described as are
members in your organization...the FACT that such is had, is indeed a matter of concern to me,
and to others likewise. Surely, you recognize that FACT?

lest anyone is deluded about homegrown American "crazies" out there... 07.Jan.2004 17:38

read this reposting

reposting

January 7, 2004 E-mail story Print
Texas Arms Cache Yields Chilling Signs of Domestic Terror Plot
Arms cache in Texas leads to convictions but few answers. Critics fault focus on foreign threats.
By Scott Gold, Times Staff Writer

HOUSTON One evening two winters ago, a man in Staten Island, N.Y., absent-mindedly flipped through his mail. Inside one envelope was a stack of fake documents, including United Nations and Defense Department identification cards, and a note: "We would hate to have this fall into the wrong hands."

It had. The package, intended for a member of a self-styled militia in New Jersey, had been delivered to the wrong address.

From that lucky break, federal officials believe they may have uncovered one of the most audacious domestic terrorism plots since the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing that killed 168 people. Starting with a single piece of mail, investigators discovered an enormous cache of weapons in Noonday, in East Texas, including the makings of a sophisticated sodium cyanide bomb capable of killing thousands of people.

Three people William Krar, a small-time arms dealer with connections to white supremacists; Krar's common-law wife, Judith L. Bruey; and Edward S. Feltus, the man who was supposed to have received the forged documents pleaded guilty in the case in November. They are being held in a Tyler, Texas, detention facility and are scheduled to appear before a federal judge for sentencing next month.

But what is typically the end of a criminal case may be only the beginning in this one. Some government investigators believe other conspirators may be on the loose. And they readily acknowledge that they have no idea what the stash of weapons was for though they have tantalizing and alarming clues of a "covert operation or plan," according to an FBI affidavit.

"What was Krar going to do with this stuff? That's what we want to know and we don't know," said Brit Featherston, an assistant U.S. attorney and the federal government's anti-terrorism coordinator in the eastern district of Texas. "There is no legitimate reason to have this stuff. The bottom line is that it only had one purpose, and that was to kill people. And it's very troubling that we have yet to figure it out."

Krar, 62, who lived in the piney woods of Noonday, a tiny community about 100 miles southeast of Dallas, pleaded guilty to possession of a chemical weapon and faces a possible sentence of life in prison, Featherston said.

Bruey, 54, pleaded guilty to conspiracy to possess illegal weapons and faces a maximum sentence of five years in prison, Featherston said.

Feltus, 56, of New Jersey, has pleaded guilty to aiding and abetting the transportation of false identification documents and faces a maximum sentence of 15 years in prison, Featherston said.

According to the FBI affidavit, Feltus has told investigators that he is a member of a group called the New Jersey Militia, which, according to its website, believes the federal government has grown too powerful and says it is "ready, as a last resort, to come to our nation's defense against all enemies, foreign or domestic."

It is unclear whether Krar or Bruey had any involvement with the organization. Neither representatives of the New Jersey Militia nor attorneys representing Feltus and Bruey could be reached for comment.

Tonda L. Curry, a Tyler attorney, represents Krar, who appears to have made much of his living, investigators say, by manufacturing trigger parts for .223-caliber Bushmaster rifles.

Krar, Curry acknowledged, is an "eccentric" who broke the law by possessing weapons he was not licensed to own, including fully automatic guns.

He has not cooperated with investigators, and Curry would not reveal any details of her conversations with Krar regarding motives for possessing the weapons. She said, however, that she had "never seen anything that indicates there was any kind of terrorism plot or any intent to use these things against the American people or the government in any way."

"He was not the type who kept these things at ready access. They were miles from his home in a storage facility," Curry said. "His home was not a bunker, an arsenal, whatever you want to call it, where he was ready to attack. These things were stored as collectibles."

The case began to unfold in January 2002, when the package was mistakenly delivered to Staten Island. Investigators traced it to a mailing and business center near Tyler, then to Krar and Bruey, who lived together in Noonday.

With Bruey's permission, they searched a storage facility the couple had rented. The firepower inside shocked law enforcement officers.

Investigators found nearly 500,000 rounds of ammunition, 65 pipe bombs and briefcases that could be detonated by remote control.

Most distressing, they said, was the discovery of 800 grams of almost pure sodium cyanide material that can only be acquired legally for specific agricultural or military projects.

The sodium cyanide was found inside an ammunition canister, next to hydrochloric, nitric and acetic acids and formulas for making bombs. If acid were mixed with the sodium cyanide, an analysis showed, it would create a bomb powerful enough to kill everyone inside a 30,000-square-foot facility, investigators said.

Also discovered were anti-Semitic, antiblack and antigovernment books and pamphlets, according to the FBI's affidavit.

The affidavit included documents recovered from a rental car Krar was driving in Tennessee when he was pulled over by a state trooper in January 2003 for a minor traffic violation. Inside the car, according to the affidavit, the trooper found many weapons, including two handguns, 16 knives, a stun gun and a smoke grenade.

The documents were titled "trip" and "procedure," and appeared to list rendezvous points in cities across the nation. They also listed what appeared to be code phrases; some investigators say they believe the phrases could be used to indicate a level of awareness of law enforcement officials or others.

" 'Tornadoes are expected in our area' things very hot; lay low or change your travel plans," one document said. " 'Major thunder storms are predicted' they are looking pretty hard; be cautious."

The clues, wrote FBI Special Agent Bart B. LaRocca in the affidavit, suggested an "involved criminal scheme which could potentially include plans for future civil unrest and/or violent civil disorder against the United States government."

Revelations, however, that many questions remain unanswered in the case have made it the target of the new, post-Sept. 11 politics of terrorism.

Critics of the Bush administration say federal officials and the mainstream media are suffering from tunnel vision that they are so focused on international threats that they have failed to give sufficient attention to threats at home.

At most, the critics say, increased attention to this case could have brought more answers. At the least, they say, if the defendants in this case had been people with foreign backgrounds or Muslims, U.S. Atty. Gen. John Ashcroft himself would have announced the arrests and the guilty pleas.

Instead, details of the case were revealed in a half-page press release sent to local media. Officials say the case was at one point included in President Bush's daily security briefings, but it remains virtually unknown outside East Texas even though, critics point out, it represents an instance in which federal authorities discovered a weapon of mass destruction.

Much of the criticism has come on Internet Web logs, known as "blogs." People who operate the websites, or "bloggers," have seized on the Krar case and what they perceive as the inattention it received from the Bush administration and major media.

The fault, critics say, lies not with law enforcement officers, whom they believe prevented a deadly plot from developing. Instead, they say, the fault lies with an administration that adheres too closely to a script.

"If anyone wanted evidence that the 'war on terror' is primarily a political marketing campaign in which war itself is mostly a device for garnering support they need look no further than the startling non-response to domestic terrorism by the Bush Administration," one blog, called Orcinus, said recently. The blog, which uses a killer whale as its mascot and targets the nexus of politics, culture and journalism, is written and compiled by David Neiwert, a Seattle resident and former journalist.

Robert Jensen, an associate professor in the School of Journalism at the University of Texas in Austin and director of the College of Communication's honors program, agrees with the criticism. He says that the Bush administration, to promote its efforts overseas, "needs a public that is afraid and sees these wars as justified."

"The primary justification is a fear of people 'out there' who want to come here and get us," he said. "Arrests of foreigners are very effective arrests to publicize. It has a political function. Domestic terrorism may be, in some ways, more of a threat. But there is no reason to publicize it. It doesn't have any political benefit."

Federal officials disagreed with the contention that their international investigation into terrorism had distracted them from domestic threats.

"Certainly, our international anti-terrorism efforts are clearly the No. 1 priority," said Mary Beth Buchanan, the Pittsburgh-based U.S. attorney for the western district of Pennsylvania and the chairwoman of a committee of federal prosecutors that advises Ashcroft. "But domestic terrorism is also a part of that. As we've increased our efforts to find the sources of international terrorism, we are also stepping up our efforts in the area of domestic terrorism as well."

Mark Corallo, a spokesman for the Justice Department, said the observations about the Krar case are overly cynical.

"We don't spend a lot of time thinking about how we announce our activities," he said. "We base all our decisions on the facts and the law and we pursue all violations ... vigorously."

Copyright 2004 Los Angeles Times

Are you a part of ... 24.Dec.2005 17:22

Falcon_871

Are you guys a part of the United States National Defense Force Support Command (Sep)? This sounds like the same thing and I was just wondering. Thanks.