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What Kind Of Man Would Do Such A Thing?

Sent to me by a CCon. friend today
What Kind Of Man Would Do Such A Thing?
 At Walter Reed Medical Center in Washington DC recently the Sergeant
Major of the Army, Jack Tilley, was with a group of people visiting the
wounded soldiers. He saw a Special Forces soldier who had lost his right
hand and suffered severe wounds of his face and side of his body. The
Sergeant Major of the Army wanted to honor him and show him respect without
offending, but what can you say or do in such a situation that will encourage
and uplift?
How do you shake the right hand of a soldier who has none?
There was a man in that group of visitors who had his wife with him
to visit the wounded. He seemed to knew exactly what to do. This man
reverently took the soldiers stump of a hand in both of his hands, knelt at the
bedside and prayed for him. When he finished the prayer, he stood up, bent
over the soldier and kissed him on the head and told him that he loved him.
A powerful expression of love and Christ-like example, for one of
our wounded heroes.
What kind of a man would do such a thing?
The wounded man's Commander-in-Chief, George W. Bush; President of
the U.S.A.
This story was told by the Sergeant Major of the Army, at a Soldiers'
Breakfast held at Red Arsenal, AL, and recorded by Chaplain James Henderson, stationed there.
Pass it on... the press won't.
What about ... 01.Jan.2004 15:32


What about the troops that get their ass shot off. Do they get a kiss there also?

here's one... 01.Jan.2004 15:44

this thing here

what kind of man would lie to an entire country about a threat that did not exist, launch a war in which many thousands were killed and thousands more injured and maimed, and visit veterans hospitals and beg forgiveness, not in christ like fashion, but in the pitiful, desperate, pleading fashion of a cowardly, manipulative, evil man hoping that god will spare him for his lies and the destruction, pain and grief they have caused? nearly elected president george w. bush II. pass it on... because the press won't.

more Karl Rove handiwork? 01.Jan.2004 15:47


Pass it on... the press won't, you say, as you admit it was in the military press?

Seems that Bush presumably only did this for the press. Certainly you know that his Methodist Church in Texas has disowned him for being a hypocrite? Lap it up fascist trolls! How popular is Bush? only 29% of the American public thought he was admirable in a recent poll. More transparent hypocrites like Condoleeza Rice only got 4%.

One of my favorite Bush quotes (which I paraphrase) is: "You can fool some of the people all of the time. And those are the ones you have to concentrate on."

Your whole country is being sold down the river by this unconstitutional police state and by a 9-11 terrorist event that the U.S. military and the Bush Administration allowed and planned. Besides Bush is NOT president. He is the outcome of a judicial coup that stopped the vote count in Florida. This was followed up by the self-hit of 9-11. His brother Jeb Bush was instrumental in loading all the Huffman Aviation documents into that C130 plane to DC after 9-11, to cover up that 9-11 was an inside government job. And here you are desperate to ingratiate yourself with the people who enslave you? You are literally attached to your delusions in a serious way, a prisoner attached to the jailers!

Get a grip:


interesting... 01.Jan.2004 15:48


there are two possible reasons why no one in the press has reported this...

1.) it didn't happen, and instead it's a "fish story" that gets embellished and circulated.... the press got burned pretty badly already, in the case of Private Jessica Lynch.

2) at the time it happened there were countless other stories of greater news value that overshadowed it in the eyes of editors.

In my opinion, until the president shows his face at a GI's funeral to show public sympathy for a family's loss, the rest is simple political grandstanding.

god needs satan to make himself look good 01.Jan.2004 15:54


you know what would mean more than that? how about the christ like man not sending these guys off to be mutilated in the first place? how about not slashing veterans benefits? how about less superficial PR stunts and more actual compasion? what kind of man would happily send people to this kind of fate and have the nerve to do this shit, like it's for there own good? Many christians would swollow this story up as proof of the thief in chief's moral standard, but they should consider the facts not the hype.... then again that would be to much to ask from a conservative christian

What Kind Of Man Would Do Such A Thing? 01.Jan.2004 16:10

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What Kind Of Man Would Do Such A Thing?

By the infomation you have provided I would say a mass murder kind of man. May the Lord Jesus Christ look with forgiveness on your sinners soul for printing such a shameful piece. God forgive you, I can't may you die a painful death for insulting our brave troops this way.

Amateur Hour 01.Jan.2004 16:26


More than one kind of man would do such a thing.

But this particular kind of man is a shallow, cruel, twisted, liar and war criminal.

Even that one would "do such a thing."

Hello, Reader's Digest 01.Jan.2004 16:40


>> There was a man in that group of visitors who had his wife with him to visit the wounded.

What a steaming heap of no-brow spam horseshit.

This little anecdote is told in your standard Wilford Brimley-hawking-oatmeal faux parable mass mailing Norman Rockwell-speak.

"There was a man."


Uh, you mean, like Clint Eastwood as the Man With No Name or maybe Jesus? It sounds so... epic. Sort of like Toshiro Mifune wandering into a dusty old town and cleaning up the riffraff.

"In that group of visitors."

Makes it sound like "the man" was just strolling through the hospital with some well-wishers. What this charming little piece of propaganda doesn't mention is that "the visitors" consists of "the man's" security personnel (because LOTS of people want to kill the man), a hand-picked assortment of media representatives who will record every worthwhile photo op and gesture of "the man." Further, "the visitors" have carefully screened "the wounded" to make sure "the man" is only getting photographed praying over a certain type of Jessica Lynch-esque soldier, preferably blond, one who clearly shares "the man's" political and religious views (as opposed to one of the unapproved wounded who might shout at "the man" for praying over him after he cynically placed the soldier into a lethal situation for the enrichment of "the man's" "friends" and by the way, The Man, WHERE ARE MY MOTHERFUCKING ARMS?! But that wouldn't make a very readable spam mailer for the kinder-theists.)

This kind of simple-minded Little Golden Book world view is precisely why our cartoon president spends trillions and thousands of lives trying to cram the rest of the planet into his ABC After School Special interpretation of world affairs.

This piece of shit posting is funny on this site. And sad.

Not so funny when our government makes that kind of treacle government policy.

Still sad though.

Why would such a man tell such a story 01.Jan.2004 17:01

Catalina Eddie

This is from the US Army website. Might the man have a reason for spreading the story?

"As Sergeant Major of the Army, Tilley serves as the Army Chief of Staff's personal advisor on all enlisted-related matters, particularly in areas affecting soldier training and quality of life. The SMA devotes the majority of his time to traveling throughout the Army observing training, and talking to soldiers and their families. He sits on a wide variety of councils and boards that make decisions affecting enlisted soldiers and their families and is routinely invited to testify before Congress.

SMA Tilley was born in Vancouver, Washington, on Dec. 3, 1948. He entered the Army in November 1966 and attended basic training at Fort Lewis, Washington, and advanced individual training at Fort Knox, Kentucky. Following tours in Vietnam and Fort Benning, Georgia, SMA Tilley left the Army for two years before enlisting again in September 1971.

SMA Tilley has demonstrated his personal commitment to the Army and his soldiers as he advanced to positions of higher responsibility. He has held a variety of important positions culminating in his current assignment as the Sergeant Major of the Army. He previously held the senior enlisted position as Command Sergeant Major of the United States Central Command, MacDill Air Force Base, Florida. Other assignments he held as Command Sergeant Major were 1st Battalion, 10th Cavalry, Fort Knox, 194th Armor Brigade, 1st Armored Division, Bad Kreuznach, Germany and United States Army Space and Missile Defense Command, Arlington, Virginia"

'Just tryin' t'add a little perspective...

This is my favorite part 01.Jan.2004 17:02


>> Pass it on... the press won't.

I did a search on Google for "Bush visits wounded."

And got 52,000 hits.

Then I added "walter reed" and the number dropped to a "mere" 7,900.

And I note right off the bat that these publications specifically are covering the very same visit to Walter Reed that this piece of spam posting claims is not reported by the press. Here are some of the press organizations who did not cover this very special, very secret episode in the "Continuing Adventures of The Man Who Fights for Good."

Washington Post
Guardian UK
Seattle PI
AP Wire
Fox News
Dallas New
Minneapolis Star Tribune
Buffalo News
St. Petersburg Times
CBS News
USA Today
Sacramento Bee
Jefferson City News Tribune
New York Jewish Times
NY Post
Chicago Tribune

And that's just what I found in the first five pages.

Not only was it covered in the press. It is covered in every major news publication and every minor publication. On television, in print, online.



It must be really hard being "the man" because hardly anybody ever hears about the times when he prays over limbless soldiers.

Like he does every day.

When he's not fighting evil.

From the back of his magic talking dragon which Jesus gave him as a reward for being so dang pure.

God bless "the man."

And he needs all of the support from god he can get, because his people curse him as a liar and a thief.

snopes 01.Jan.2004 17:12


Snopes.com has further info about this story.

before we get carried away with this tale, let's consider 01.Jan.2004 17:17


this is merely a "report" and it's alledged to be told by the Sargent Major of the Army, and we all
know that his main function is bolstering the morale of the troops...the enlisted men, and he is
allowed to use any trick in his book...even outright lying. This is nothing to these people...whaz
a lie to evoke a tear when they can lie to kill thousands? A lie is a lie whether it kills you or it is
able to make you bawl like a baby because it's stroked your emotions!. So, repeat after me...a
lie is a lie...no matter what is behind it! Frankly, this sure sounds to me like a crafted-tale told
by Herr Rove and his gang of liars meant to evoke the emotions of the sheepeople to keep 'em
razzled-dazzled so they'll not come out of their trance...least of all, long enough to start asking

Now, the kicker>>>>had this been a FACT, then it would have been filmed and then been shown
on mainstream media...ad infinum/ad nauseum...as it would be used to refute the fact that Bush
won't attend funerals or show meaningful respect to the dead soldier's, and be the PR trump of
the year....IF it really indeed happened! Didn't happen folk's...I checked my crystal ball...it sees
nothing of the sort. End of story! (PS: in the highly unlikely off-chance that they did film "some-
thing" to be shown to bolster their lying...do remember Bush held a "plastic turkey" when he was
in Baghdad at Thanksgiven...so, who is to say the poor fellow he'd be shown kissing, if it does in-
deed take place that they hoist out a film after this dissection of their bullshit story...that he is not
a Steven Speilberg "type" android that looks human-like? such is certainly possible, and with the
these type of liars, isn't it????)

Debunk debunk 01.Jan.2004 17:34


Google on "How do you shake the right hand of a soldier who has none?", a quote from this posting and you will find innumerable hits. The most telling is from snopes --  http://www.snopes.com/politics/bush/injured.asp

This is crap boys and girls, nothing more than junk PSYOPS. Not worth the paper it's printed on...

But on the other hand that's the internet for you.

Campaign 01.Jan.2004 18:07

Eins Zwei

>"This is crap boys and girls, nothing more than junk PSYOPS. Not worth the paper it's printed on...
But on the other hand that's the internet for you."

And clever re-election campaigning.

clearly an embellishment 01.Jan.2004 18:46


so the story was embellished from a simple God Bless you to prayer on the knees...
I think ,
a Christ like man would not have sent the soldier to fight his war
a Christ like man would not have started a war
a Christ like man would have gone into battle himself to save someone else who was being sent
a decent/moral man would have been ashamed of what he had caused, knelt down and begged for forgiveness ---and then gone out and stopped the killing.
a campaigning morally bankrupt man would have kissed the soldier as he might kiss a baby --- always aware of where the media was and who would report his story to his advantage... yuck.

Aw, come on, people, it's a 01.Jan.2004 22:47


nice, inspiring story, about a christly man, who tried to comfort the wounded. We need more stories like this in this world of war and fiscal disaster. Oh wait, Bush caused the war that created the wounded, and tanked the economy. Never mind.

What kind of man would do THIS? 02.Jan.2004 00:47


Alan Jermaine Lewis is one of many servicepeople who was disfigured in Iraq
Alan Jermaine Lewis is one of many servicepeople who was disfigured in Iraq

What sort of "man"? 02.Jan.2004 08:24

Abudullah MacTavish

There are some famous pictures of Hitler patting small children on the head, hugging admiring young women, playing with dogs, all with a warm smile on his face. Millions of Germans fell for that crap. Apparently millions of Americans are just as gullible.

other famous kisses 02.Jan.2004 11:40

Elton John

There have been similar kisses that were immortalized in history. Let us not forget the kiss of Judas and Caiaphas.

fascist agitprop 02.Jan.2004 11:50

Elton John

We are starting to understand with greater and greater clarity the nature of the fascist agitprop used by this regime. As with all such techniques, they are designed entirely to shortcircuit rational thought and never amount to more than an image, a videotaped ritual, a spectacle, anything to bypass discussion and informed consent. This is why a man like John Ashcroft can refuse to meet with any print journalists, even docile corporate ones. The print medium leaves too much to chance -- it's too slow and doesn't so overwhelm and break down discursive thought processes as does a barrage of images and soundbites. These people want to scientifically control the messages they send to the public, and the corporate broadcast media willingly and eagerly aid them in the process. Make no mistake about it, this stuff is right out of Goebbels's cookbook (who was himself a student of American corporate PR experts, by the way).

RESUME 02.Jan.2004 14:33

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George W. Bush

The White House,USA


I was arrested in Kennebunkport, Maine in 1976 for driving under the
influence of alcohol. I pled guilty, paid a fine, and had my driver's
license suspended for 30 days.
My Texas driving record has been "lost" and is not available.

I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL. I refused to take a
drug test or answer any questions about my drug use. By joining the
Texas Air National Guard, I was able to avoid combat duty in Vietnam.

I graduated from Yale University. I was a cheerleader.

I ran for U.S. Congress and lost.
I began my career in the oil business in Midland, Texas in 1975. I
bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas. The company
went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.
I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took
land using taxpayer money. With the help of my father and our right-wing
friends in the oil industry (including Enron CEO Ken Lay), I was elected
Governor of Texas.

I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and oil companies, making
Texas the most polluted state in the Union. During my tenure, Houston
replaced Los Angeles as the most smog-ridden city in America.
I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to the tune of billions in
borrowed money.
I set the record for the most executions by any Governor in American
With the help of my brother, the Governor of Florida, and my father's
appointments to the Supreme Court, I became President after losing by
over 500,000 votes.

I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing cost of over one
billion dollars per week.

I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the U.S. Treasury. I
shattered the record for the largest annual deficit in U.S. history. I
set an economic record for most private bankruptcies filed in any
12-month period.

I set the all-time record for the biggest drop in the history of the
U.S. stock market.

I am the first president in U.S. history to enter office with a criminal

I set the the all-time record for most days on vacation in any one year
period. After taking-off the entire month of August, I presided over the
worst security failure in U.S.history.

I am supporting development of a nuclear "Tactical Bunker Buster," a

In my State Of The Union Address, I lied about our reasons for attacking
Iraq, then blamed the lies on our British friends.

I set the record for most campaign fund-raising trips by a U.S.

In my first year in office over 2-million Americans lost their jobs and
that trend continues every month. I set the all-time record for most
foreclosures in a 12-month period.

I appointed more convicted criminals to administration than any
president in U.S. history.

I set the record for least amount of press conferences than any
president since the advent of television.

I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S. history and refused
to intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was revealed.

I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S. history.

I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and support a cut in
duty benefits for active duty troops and their families -- in war time.

I have set the all-time record for most people worldwide to
simultaneously protest me in public venues (15 million people)
shattering the record for protest against any person in the history of

I've broken more international treaties than any president in U.S.

I'm proud that the members of my cabinet are the richest of any
administration in U.S. history. My "poorest millionaire," Condoleeza
Rice, has a Chevron oil tanker named after her.

I am the first president in U.S. history to order an unprovoked,
pre-emptive attack and the military occupation of a sovereign nation. I
did so against the will of the United Nations, the majority of U.S.
citizens, and the world community.

I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the largest bureaucracy in
the history of the United States government.

I am the first president in U.S. history to have the United Nations
remove the U.S. from the Human Rights Commission. I withdrew the U.S.
from the World Court of Law. I refused to allow inspectors access to
U.S. prisoners of war" detainees and thereby have refused to abide by
the Geneva Convention.

I am the first president in history to refuse United Nations election
inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election).

I am the all-time U.S. and world record-holder for receiving the most
corporate campaign donations. My largest lifetime campaign contributor,
and one of my best friends, Kenneth Lay, presided over the largest
corporate bankruptcy fraud in U.S. history. My political party used the
Enron private jets and corporate attorneys to assure my success with the
U.S. Supreme Court during my election decision. I have protected my
friends at Enron and Halliburton against investigation or prosecution.
More time and money was spent investigating the Monica Lewinsky affair
than has been spent investigating one of the biggest corporate ripoffs
in history.

I garnered the most sympathy for the U.S. after the World Trade Center
attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the most hated country
in the world, the largest failure of diplomacy in world history. I am
first president in history to have a majority of Europeans (71%) view my
presidency as the biggest threat to world peace and security. I changed
the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals to be awarded government
contracts. I have so far failed to fulfill my pledge to bring Osama Bin
Laden and Saddam Hussein to justice.

All records of my tenure as Governor of Texas are now in my father's
library, sealed, and unavailable for public view.
All records of SEC investigations into my insider trading and my
bankrupt companies are sealed in secrecy and unavailable for public
All records or minutes from meetings that I, or my Vice-President,
attended regarding public energy policy are sealed in secrecy and
unavailable for public review.

Please consider my experience when voting in 2004

Send this to every voter you know.

I knew it! 02.Jan.2004 22:42


"Christ-like example"

Bush is actually Jesus! Halleluja!

Just too humble to admit it in person, I guess.

you asked what kind of man...well, one who'd have 'em put in 03.Jan.2004 23:08

TRANSFER TUBES rather than coffins



DISINFOPEDIA - In order to continue to sell an increasingly unpopular Iraqi
invasion to the American people, President George W. Bush's administration
sweeps the messy parts of war - the grieving families, the flag-draped
coffins, the soldiers who have lost limbs - into a far corner of the
nation's attic. But today's military doesn't even use the words 'body bags'
- a term in common usage during the Vietnam War, when 58,000 Americans died.
... During the 1991 Persian Gulf War, the Pentagon began calling them 'human
remains pouches' and it now refers to them as transfer tubes."

HUH? 05.Jan.2004 06:31

D. DCGolightly@ecoisp.com

"A powerful expression of love and Christ-like example, for one of our wounded heroes. "

Love? Christ-like example? OMG, you should quit with the reality-altering drugs before what's left of your brain turns to mush, you gone-to-Disneyland-in-the-head-and-never-coming-back untreatable mental patient!
Look closely at the
Look closely at the "Christ-like" expression

to DCGolightly 26.May.2005 01:13


how's about we google that line of yours.."..disneyland in the head..." it sounds familiar