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Patriot Act II Now Law

Apparently it slipped under the radar...
 http://www.thenewamerican.com/tna/2004/01-12-2004/insider/patriotact.htm

Stealth Implementation of "PATRIOT ACT II"


Lost amid the tumult surrounding Saddam Hussein's December 14 capture was enactment of a measure radically extending federal counter-terrorism powers. Most of the details of H.R. 2417, the Intelligence Authorization Act for fiscal year 2004 "are secret, including the total cost of the programs, which are estimated to be about $40 billion," noted an AP story. That amount is "slightly more than Bush had requested." The measure's publicized portions include new FBI powers "to demand financial records from casinos, car dealerships, and other businesses," as well as several pilot programs permitting data exchanges between agencies.


Representative Ron Paul (R-Texas) opposed the measure, insisting that it "should outrage every single American citizen." "It appears we are witnessing a stealth enactment of the enormously unpopular 'PATRIOT II' legislation that was first leaked several months ago," stated Rep. Paul in a November 20 speech on the House floor. "These expanded police powers will enable the FBI to demand transaction records from businesses ... without the approval or knowledge of a judge or grand jury. This was written into the bill at the 11th hour over the objections of members of the Senate Judiciary Committee, which would normally have jurisdiction over the FBI."


"I also have concerns about the rest of the bill," continued Rep. Paul. "One of the few things we do know about this final version is that we are authorizing even more than the president has requested for the intelligence community.... Despite the tens of billions we spend on these myriad intelligence agencies, it is impossible to ignore the failure of our federal intelligence community to detect and prevent the September 11 attacks."

jeff 31.Dec.2003 10:19

proofreader

Hey jeff,

look into this a little more and you'll see that only a few sections of the "Patriot Act II" had been made law so far. There are MANY provisions of the PAII which are NOT law (yet) such as the ability to strip citizens who may be guilty of terrorism of thier citizenship etc

please be careful when you make such sensationalist statements like "Patriot II now law"

it's a scary, fascist plot to be sure, but not technically acurate.

Organize! 31.Dec.2003 11:59

Peace Seeker

Things will only get worse until we learn to PARTICIPATE in community, media, and government. Inform, Reform, Educate, Resonate! Don't Mourn, Organize!

try again 31.Dec.2003 12:12

Uplift

Thomas.LoC.gov sux0rs..

Do a search for "intelligence act 2004" and as of 12/31 you'll get 28 results.

Here's one:

H.R.2555
Department of Homeland Security Appropriations Act, 2004 (Enrolled as Agreed to or Passed by Both House and Senate)

Beginning
TITLE I--DEPARTMENTAL MANAGEMENT AND OPERATIONS
Office of the Secretary and Executive Management
Office of the Under Secretary for Management
Department-Wide Technology Investments
Office of Inspector General
TITLE II--SECURITY, ENFORCEMENT, AND INVESTIGATIONS
Office of the Under Secretary for Border and Transportation Security
UNITED STATES VISITOR AND IMMIGRANT STATUS INDICATOR TECHNOLOGY
Customs and Border Protection
Immigration and Customs Enforcement
FEDERAL AIR MARSHALS
FEDERAL PROTECTIVE SERVICE
(TRANSFER OF FUNDS)
AUTOMATION MODERNIZATION
AIR AND MARINE INTERDICTION, OPERATIONS, MAINTENANCE, AND PROCUREMENT
CONSTRUCTION
Transportation Security Administration
AVIATION SECURITY
MARITIME AND LAND SECURITY
INTELLIGENCE
RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT
ADMINISTRATION
United States Coast Guard
(INCLUDING RESCISSION OF FUNDS)
ENVIRONMENTAL COMPLIANCE AND RESTORATION
RESERVE TRAINING
ACQUISITION, CONSTRUCTION, AND IMPROVEMENTS
ALTERATION OF BRIDGES
RESEARCH, DEVELOPMENT, TEST, AND EVALUATION
RETIRED PAY
United States Secret Service
TITLE III--PREPAREDNESS AND RECOVERY
Office for Domestic Preparedness
STATE AND LOCAL PROGRAMS
FIREFIGHTER ASSISTANCE GRANTS
Counterterrorism Fund
Emergency Preparedness and Response
OFFICE OF THE UNDER SECRETARY FOR EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS AND RESPONSE
PREPAREDNESS, MITIGATION, RESPONSE, AND RECOVERY
ADMINISTRATIVE AND REGIONAL OPERATIONS
OPERATING EXPENSES
(RESCISSION OF FUNDS)
PUBLIC HEALTH PROGRAMS
BIODEFENSE COUNTERMEASURES
RADIOLOGICAL EMERGENCY PREPAREDNESS PROGRAM
DISASTER RELIEF
DISASTER ASSISTANCE DIRECT LOAN PROGRAM ACCOUNT
NATIONAL PRE-DISASTER MITIGATION FUND
FLOOD MAP MODERNIZATION FUND
NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE FUND
NATIONAL FLOOD MITIGATION FUND
(INCLUDING TRANSFER OF FUNDS)
EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT PERFORMANCE GRANTS
EMERGENCY FOOD AND SHELTER
CERRO GRANDE FIRE CLAIMS
TITLE IV--RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT, TRAINING, ASSESSMENTS, AND SERVICES
Citizenship and Immigration Services
Federal Law Enforcement Training Center
SALARIES AND EXPENSES
ACQUISITION, CONSTRUCTION, IMPROVEMENTS, AND RELATED EXPENSES
Information Analysis and Infrastructure Protection
ASSESSMENTS AND EVALUATIONS
Science and Technology
MANAGEMENT AND ADMINISTRATION
RESEARCH, DEVELOPMENT, ACQUISITION, AND OPERATIONS
TITLE V--GENERAL PROVISIONS
(INCLUDING TRANSFERS OF FUNDS)

Assistance 31.Dec.2003 13:51

friend of X

X's posted URL was the one for her/his session, which timed out, and can't be used again.
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Try this:

Start with the home page: < http://thomas.loc.gov>

On the home page, type "hr 2417" in the "bill number" dialogue box, then click "search".

That will return:
"There are 6 versions of Bill Number H.R.2417 for the 108th Congress
1 . Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2004 (Introduced in House)[H.R.2417.IH]
2 . Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2004 (Reported in House)[H.R.2417.RH]
3 . Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2004 (Engrossed as Agreed to or Passed by House)[H.R.2417.EH]
4 . Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2004 (Placed on Calendar in Senate)[H.R.2417.PCS]
5 . Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2004 (Engrossed Amendment as Agreed to by Senate)[H.R.2417.EAS]
6 . Intelligence Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2004 (Enrolled as Agreed to or Passed by Both House and Senate)[H.R.2417.ENR]"

Clicking on no. 6. link: "H.R.2417.ENR" brings up the bill in its final form.

Assistance Repair 31.Dec.2003 14:29

friend of X

clean URL for earlier post:

 http://thomas.loc.gov/

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I'm having difficulty in tying this HR 2714 (which appears to be a routine appropriations and admin housekeeping bill for the spooks, secret police and muscle) and the PATRIOT II that got leaked earlier in the year and caused Trashcraft to dissemble and deny. I haven't slogged through the whole HR 2714 yet, which might have some nasty riders embedded but doesn't appear, so far, to be what the leaked PATRIOT II proposes.

anybody?


PATRIOT II Hyperbole Alert 31.Dec.2003 15:05

friend of X

I'm getting the impression that the sources for the lead article for this thread--taken as posted in good faith BY JEFF-- tend to be from conservative/libertarian sites--notably based on the somewhat demagogic floor speech of a Republican member of the House when HR 2714 was being debated.

PATRIOT II (the leaked "confidential" version of last Spring) doesn't bear any resemblance to HR 2714 (with my earlier caveat that there might be some pieces glued in as riders in HR 2714)--certainly HR 2714 doesn't graphically delineate all of the specific search, surveillance, detention and oppression actions to be yielded to the secret police and spooks openly described in P II.

Here is one source for the P II document:  http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/lewis.html

Apologies that the document is available only in PDF at this site--a 120 page download that takes some time even by DSL.

Maybe someone has an HTML source.

In any case, I'm skeptical that the title of this thread ("Patriot Act II Now Law") is warrented.

This is not to say that the threat isn't real, or that P II might come in as bits and pieces.