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reposting of Judith Moriarty's article of 12-16-03
 NoahsHouse@adelphia.net
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WHO'S WATCHING THE WATCHERS?
From Judith Moriarty
 NoahsHouse@adelphia.net
12-16-3

No one could quite remember when it happened? Some pointed to the lies of past wars; others to assassinations, Waco, Ruby Ridge, Kent State, the Bonus March, TV programming, school shootings, Oklahoma, the Towers imploding. But they were all wrong.

It wasn't really any one event, but the systematic cumulative layer upon layer that built a Frankenstein people. Doped up, dumbed down, designer zombies. Apathy, passivity, greed, indifference, indolence, bias, rage, intolerance, compliance, and fear were insidiously and consistently; shouted, drummed, conditioned and programmed into this new global plantation people identified as "human resources".

Some of the elders recalled small-town living and streets a bustle of townsfolk meeting and shopping. They spoke of neighbors gathered on front porches while children played hide and seek in the gathering darkness. Church picnics, the yearly carnival, fireflies, splashing puddles of summer rains. There were lots of birds and butterflies then and fields of wildflowers and scented forests.

Clothes danced on clotheslines in summer's glee; with children busy building race cars, forts, or playing ball. The sick neighbor was quickly tended to, the grieving widow comforted. They remembered the laughter of children at play, and real grandmas in flowered dresses with aprons baking up cookies. Cars all looked different and you could tell a Chrysler from a Ford a block away. Men and boys worked on and rebuilt motors in driveways. That ended with generic computer cars that nobody could fix, purposed to send men indoors.

If there were keys to lock up one's house they were long ago misplaced. There was the corner drug store, the stationary store, the five and ten, the men's shop, the dairy queen, pizza shop, shoe stores and little restaurants. Parades had all the folks out, with families on blankets down by the river to watch the fireworks. Nothing fancy mind you. Just ordinary folks living ordinary lives, joying in their communities and one another. The real American dream if anyone should ask.

It didn't happen all at once so nobody really noticed. Oh, some did, but they were quickly marginalized and labeled. People learned, or rather were conditioned, to keep their thoughts and opinions to themselves. One didn't want to be thought odd and then there were the neighbors, the minister and one's job to think about. Others had political aspirations, deals, and contracts to consider. Everyone had a good excuse.

A dread came over the land but everyone pretended it didn't exist. The President was shot and that seemed to mark the end of any further leadership that the people believed in. Bang-bang-bang; anyone seen as a voice, with charisma, with passion was shot. Oh, there was the silly stories, of this lone madman or that, doing the dirty deeds. People didn't believe, but they didn't want to talk about it for fear they'd be labeled "other". Words were put out through the media of conspiratorial nuts, suspicious crazies etc., and that was that.

And then the dope came and came and came. It filled the ghettos, city streets and small-town America. People started killing and gangs formed. Families were shattered, and more and more jails were built, and specialty police emerged in scary uniforms. They made a big ta do of crashing down doors in drug busts. Never in rich gated estates, but in tenements and poor towns. Lots of times, they got the wrong apartments or trailer, but since they weren't raiding posh resorts or wealthy enclaves there wasn't much reporting or actions taken.

After awhile people became desensitized. Every night on the news, it was a body, a shooting, crying, screaming, bombs dropping shredding foreign people; and then pretty soon people just went on eating supper, waiting for the sports reports or weather. The Vietnam War ended and they built another memorial for people to go and touch a name. The men who survived were poisoned, or emotionally paralyzed, and went to live under bridges or in parks. The Secretary of Defense, Robert McNamara, remarked years later, when writing a book, that it (Vietnam) was all a mistake. He never went under any bridges and told the guys living with rats that he was sorry that their lives were stolen and their buddies dead. Why should he care, he, the President of the World Bank and all, he was warm and well fed not poisoned with deformed children.

And then the downtowns across the land all emptied. One by one the mills, foundries, and factories closed. No more downtown shopping, with sidewalks cracked and store windows boarded and empty. Big mega-stores and malls filled the nation. Malls, everywhere, covered over the fields of flowers, the clay mines and the waterfalls. Strangers shopped in these fortress mazes with a glazed intensity, plastic credit cards in hand, delaying payment to another time. It was all so convenient. No longer neighbors, but strangers told to shop no matter the crisis.

No one, except a few of the elders remembered when there were no cameras on highways, downtown streets, places of work and in every store. Soundproof barriers (or so they said) were built along stretches of thruways, and concrete barriers stood at the edges of the most obscure roads. People shook their heads, but nobody questioned. After all, the authorities had everything in hand. More prisons were built and casinos. More malls and generic fast food junk restaurants, drive through, so you need never speak to a neighbor, just plastic food in plastic booths for plastic people.

Small town drug-hardware and five and ten stores went out of business. Lots and lots of cheap plastic junk from China now filled mega stores. Strangers pushed and shoved, for the newest marked down gadget, that TV told them they just had to have, or the newest novelty toy. Nobody cared that the junk broke in a week or two or three. Nobody asked or cared that this trash was put together in slave labor shops, where people worked seven days a week-twelve hours a day for pennies an hour. They didn't care because they didn't have to care and besides there wasn't time.

The elders told of how family doctors once came with their black bags to their homes, and delivered a baby or tended to an illness. You could afford the needed medicine or a hospital stay. And then that all disappeared, except for the very wealthy, and the politicians, who made sure the laws and care they were voting into place, for the "human resources", wouldn't affect them. And then doctors were no longer doctors but technocrats. A drone worker far away, in a cubicle with a computer in front of them, would tell the doctor (with a dozen years education) that so and so wasn't eligible for any specialty tests or operation. So people died, but they died quietly out of sight, from medical neglect and greed. And the men who were once known as doctors never said a word. They just obeyed like everybody else.

The elders in the schools were gotten rid of, and new change agents put in. No more teaching went on, but something called social engineering replaced the creativity and enthusiasm that learning once had. Children were programmed to study for tests not to read, write, and discover. Those who were more free-spirited, inquisitive, rambunctious (as children will be) were prescribed drugs to bring them into line. The handicapped and special needs children, were put into regular classrooms, which resulted in nobody receiving the special attentions that were required to reach their highest potential. But to say anything had you "marked" as intolerant and a trouble-maker. Private schools, had the rich and protected ones, not having to endure such nonsense. These few received moneyed educations, the very best, so that they too, would one day inherit the positions and money of their fathers.

Lots of new words came into being. Really meaningless, but who knew, they sounded important. Public-Private Partnerships (you pay they play), consensus (a predetermined decision) win-win (lose-lose for you), due diligence (busy nothingness), Regional (local government dismantled), Privatization (profits over people), micro-managing (don't question authorities' decisions), etc.

Trade Agreements, Summits, the World Bank, the International Monetary Fund, the World Trade Organization, and armies of lobbyists saw to the corporatization of the people's business, with the Congress and Senate, really just props, with lots of perks but little power. They pretty much turned all the work and decisions they were responsible for, over to the Executive Branch and corporate honchos, which left them free to hold senseless hearings, meaningless votes, and fact finding missions (vacations) abroad. They voted themselves yearly raises, lucrative pensions, and health care. That's about it. Oh, at election time, they showed up to have scut work done and tell people they cared.

One day the clouds disappeared, and planes flew back and forth smearing the sky with chemical trails, that soon turned turquoise sunshine days into dusty murkiness. Nobody looked up, they just kept shuffling to the malls, the casinos, to vacation, and to work. The few who did, were quickly put in the category of "others" and that was that. Nobody wanted ever to be called an "other". No matter who you asked, nobody, no official nor any politician, could tell you why the sun was gone? They too were afraid and just shrugged. There used to be lots of birds and bees but they disappeared, or were found dead, with some disease or maybe the stuff smeared in the sky killed them? Nobody knew? Frogs were found grotesquely deformed but that was quickly hushed up and people were told not to eat the fish because of mercury.

NAFTA, the WTO, the IMF, GATT, and Trade Summits, saw our nation dismantled, brick by brick and town by town. It was a race to the bottom in setting up this new global plantation, which saw the few at the top, cleaning up in the newest industries of terrorism, war, waste, and the plundering and privatizing of the world's resources, even the water. Still people went shopping, to the video stores and pretended everything would fix itself. Imagine. Even the taking of the water kept everybody silent!

The oil and gas people, took over the oceans to drill and despoil, so that ended the fishing industry. They made up lies about fish stocks being depleted and who could argue with them? The corporate advisors had written all the rules for the new plantation. Family farms went under, not able to compete with mega-corporate farms. Trade deals saw poison fruits and vegetables shipped in, and that wiped out all the hard work of protecting our nations food/meat supplies. Why there were so many books of laws and rules, that nobody, especially the politicians knew what was what? They just voted in the middle of the night the way the lobbyists told them to.

Since there were no jobs, you had a choice of going to prison or off to war. The exceptions were the money-people's children. They still went to Ivy League colleges (nobody else could afford), off to Europe, for that well-rounded life and spring break. Prisons were built everywhere. More prisons than schools. Those who weren't locked up for non-violent offenses, watched the ones who were, for poor wages. Everybody beat everybody else up to keep them in line. Corporate America moved a lot of their jobs into the prisons, because it was much cheaper having slave labor and no benefits or salaries to pay. Other jobs were taken by the special guest visas that the lobbyists had the politicians vote on. The corporate lobbyists, also made it convenient for the ones making all the money, to have off-shore tax free accounts and special subsidies to ship all the jobs in America, off to places that paid the least and had no messy environmental standards. Everybody talked about special treaties protecting the environment but that was a lie since the Third World countries were conveniently exempted.

Nobody knew what to do so they did nothing. They just waited but they didn't know what for? More and more laws were made. Searches at airports (not for the elite or politicians) had people conditioned and programmed to obey. This was kind of silly, seeing all these educated people, made subservient and shuffling to people with GEDs who were paid minimum wage. Meantime planes were packed with cargo that nobody checked so it never was about security but about obedience to the rules. On Sept 11-01 the towers, one other building, and the Pentagon all imploded or had things crashing into them. They said some Arab men trained on crop dusters did this fancy maneuvering of giant planes. No skyscraper buildings had ever imploded from fire before this, and nobody seemed to think it was wrong that all the steel from this "crime scene" was shipped to China? Anyway, after that all Americans became Arabs, because that was the newest group targeted to fear. Everyone became suspect, Arab or not. Who watched the watchers nobody knew? Everybody just followed orders, all the way down the line, and searched their neighbors, demanded triple ID, put them on lists, or if they protested anywhere; gassed them, hit them with clubs, shocked them with stun guns or arrested them. Everyone just "followed orders" but nobody really knew the identity of the Wizard behind the curtain issuing these orders? Some of the ones dressed in helmets, with shields and fancy equipment, enjoyed their new jobs of beating people. Now they were important, and they were the boss. This is very important when you've always been a nobody or bullied. Power, even beating people up power, is like an aphrodisiac. Everybody felt depressed, sad, frustrated and powerless. They couldn't exactly tell you why, just that they knew everything was changed and ruined forever. No more grandmas in aprons, downtown streets filled with neighbors, no more factory whistle or friendly peace officers. No more college education for the auto worker's boy, or the home that people always dreamed of owning. The global plantation owners wanted the whole earth for themselves and so they took it. They wanted all people as slaves working and working till they dropped dead. It really wasn't about money, but a perverse power, that made some men quite mad. The people felt frightened, because they knew in their hearts that the inmates were in charge and they had the keys. Nobody said this out loud of course. Yikes, then you would be called "other", and told to move out of the country if you didn't like things they way they were. Of course, there was no other country to move to, since it was a global plantation, but most people were still very dumb (kept deliberately so), on the real business of the power brokers of the world. Why, heck, everyone still thought there were two parties to choose from and that a new President would save them all. They really did.

People became mean-spirited, suspicious, or just disappeared into their cocoon lives. Streets were silent and echoing at night. People lived their lives vicariously through the movies or as voyeurs watching from a distance. But then something magical began to happen. No one knew from whence the song came or the light? It wasn't just the one song or the one act of love, but the cumulative acts, that took place daily throughout the world.

It wasn't a heroic act or great speech. Great happenings never are. It was that one last song on a back country road, that a man sang- thinking it was just another lonely yodel. It was the meal served in a city soup kitchen, the elderly woman who bathed her paralyzed husband, the women with their protest signs against polluting a community, the social worker moving a widow, the bird on a faucet given as a gift. It was the lighted candle in a darkened church, the woman who saved a whale, the man who laid down his gun and said, "I will not kill another." And then one day--the final act of unselfish love dispelled the darkness and made it light. No act however removed, however small, is unimportant and unheard. Yours may be the one act today, that brings the love and peace that wipes away every tear and makes a fearful people strong again. You are the most important person in the world today. Your act may be the one.

Once upon a time, come with me I'll take you there. Once upon a time, so many stories we can share. And who knows what we'll find?

Once upon a time.

Proud to be an 'other'. 22.May.2006 08:00

Helen L. Crowe, UU ahcorvus2@aol.com

I still remember the days of yore when families and neighbors and home town shops and get togethers were our way of life. We knew all the merchants, and the grocer would take the items we wanted off the shelf, and write the amount on the paper bag, add it up and we'd pay the bill, have a chat with others in the store, and walk home. We'd go to the butcher and choose a cut of meat, have it wrapped in a piece of waxed paper and mother would roast or fry it, and the whole family would dine together every night. Papa would go to the mill or factory where work started at 7:00am. Many lived close enough so they could go home for lunch with Mama and then go back to work. There were very few rolling stones. Most workers remained in the same company all their working lives and when age forced them to stop working, they were awarded with a gold watch and good wishes. Having a college graduate in a family was a miracle. Many young ladies went to Normal School to become teachers, and those who aspired to become nurses went to the nursing school of the local hospital. Factories took the young men under their wings and offered them apprenticeships. They became the foremen and toolmakers and worked up to becoming engineers. Of course we suffered through the depression after the crash in 1929, and there were no programs to provide compensation. For the young men there was the Civilian Conservation Corps that gave them shelter, clothing, and a new way of life in the great outdoors, planting trees, making trails, and fighting forest fires as well as having $25. of their $30. compensation sent back home to their needy families. The National Recovery Act stimulated business, and of course the coming war in Europe was a factor in bringing us out of the depression too. Then December 7, 1941 was another turning point in all our lives. We had perils facing us in the Orient and in Europe and the Mideast. Our whole way of life was changed. The young volunteered or were drafted into the military, and the women went into the shops and factories. Instead of automobiles being built, tanks and airplanes and ships were the needed products. War bonds and war stamps instead of lotteries were the best investments, and gasoline was rationed, cooking fat was returned to the market, and many other foods were rationed, and there were always long lines of customers waiting to buy food, but hardships were accepted without people complaining. In fact there was a comradeship among everyone. In so many front windows hung a Gold Star placed there by a mother who had lost her son. The returning veterans were greeted with joy and appreciation, and those who chose could further their education at the expense of the government, and also buy a home with a lower mortgage rate, and the Veterans Administration took good care of those who had been injured. There were 'others' way back then, starting with the election of FDR. I can remember when I was able to vote for the first time in 1944, I was so excited that I was at the polls the minute they opened. I so admired Eleanor Roosevelt, and she was the first person I wrote to who was in government. Then I wrote to Harry S. Truman many times, and would end my letters saying that I didn't expect an answer, because I knew how busy he was. He didn't answer my letters, but my letters were referred to the department where the subject of my letter was about, and I would receive an answer from them! I always sent him a birthday card! Then I worked diligently for Adlai Stevenson and Estes Kefauver. I always wonder what our world would be like if Adlai had won. It took Ike's final address to be able to say something nice about his administration! I never could understand why we turned our backs on Castro and Cuba. And now I cannot understand why we are so fearful of communism and socialism while these South American countries are trying to improve the life style of their people. After the questionable events of Sept. 11, 2001 I'm still an 'other'. In 2002 a group of us would stand on the corner protesting even the thoughts of going into Iraq. All that year through heat and snow we protested, and then in 2003 our protests were against War with Iraq. And now some of our signs also say War with Iran, NO. We 'others' are against any warfare, and we will continue to do our best to change the direction of our country. With great trepidation we face 2008 and wonder what direction the next generation will be herded into when we read all the hateful thoughts being expressed by supposedly good Americans on the blogs. Our most important act is to find leaders who are not self serving but only are concerned with making life on earth heavenly for every person.

My Canadian Father 21.Mar.2007 12:56

Cary G Dean cgd@lycosmax.co.uk

Yes I remember well those days, my father was born in north battleford saskatewan in 1915, when he came to England after WW2 and married my mum he bought his first house here in 1953 he put the key in the door and did'nt take it out untill he sold it 7 years later, and in all that time both of our neighbours were robbed, he used to say that it was the best way to stop someone because if the key was in the door someone must be in, I was just talking to my mother who I'm looking after she's 87 this year if I could build a Time machine what year she would like to go back and live and she said the 1920's because she remembered how happy she was when she was a 7 year old and how everthing seemed more at ease, any way my dad has been gone now 20 years but his Idea's have stayed with us, I don't have the key in the front door, but our back door is never closed I don't know but just maybe the same Guardian angel my dad had is still with us.

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Past memories are displayed on one's personally coloured neural net 21.Mar.2007 15:42

Klaus Kaczor kkzor@shaw.ca

The article "once upon a time....it was asked...." by Judith Moriarty is certainly effective invoking feelings of paradise lost. I enjoy reading everyone of her great articles, often she can make me cry.
The problem I have is the failure to recognize and then paint with warm fuzzy colours, some of the early root causes of our presnt day predicament.

"Cars all looked different and you could tell a Chrysler from a Ford a block away. Men and boys worked on and rebuilt motors in driveways. That ended with generic computer cars that nobody could fix, purposed to send men indoors."

One of the major contributors to American Prosperity, and paradoxically its demise, is the worship of the automobile. Besides the direct link to fueling the hollow American Consumerism/materialism Dream, cars contribute to social isolation, crime, polution, many deaths and injuries, as well as global warming, dependence on foreign oil, and such other oxilleray effects.

"And then the dope came and came and came. It filled the ghettos, city streets and small-town America. People started killing and gangs formed. Families were shattered, and more and more jails were built, and specialty police emerged in scary uniforms."

The dope is not the cause of your problems. The Prohibition laws were initiated in order to opppress certain racial groups. Today most of the problems with substances are directly attributable to prohibition and society's insistance to let racist junk laws stand. Those apple-pie-baking Christians, Judith mentions, still want to oppress others by denying them their freedom of choice. This is a direct cause of Americans dumbing down to a level much below their great grandparents who understood how to stop the crime associated with prohibition.

"More prisons were built and casinos. More malls and generic fast food junk restaurants, drive through, so you need never speak to a neighbor, just plastic food in plastic booths for plastic people."

This is the direct result of people dumbing down through their choices. If you see my article " Do humans have a political gene? " near the end I state the average figures for "turnout" in your Presidential elections, kept since 1960, has declined 10%. I have through genetic principals linked declining "turnout" to a genetic drift of your population to lower intelligence.

1960 is the exact time TV began to invade your culture in a serious mannner. Along with it came mass marketing and corporate exponential expansion. Americans bought into this media invasion into their homes hook, line and millstone.

Nothing was ever as rosie in reality as it may appear upon reflection after some time has passed. Usually the relationship is linked by the span of time involved, the longer time elapsed, the rosier the painting.

All of this navel gazing is nice, but unless you are willing to climb back on a bicycle, cook your own food, and turn off the TV, like I have done, all the heart wrenching prose, the demonstrations against governments aren't going to accomplish anything.

The only way out of our problems is for everyone on the planet to personally become part of the solution. You can't demand the luxury of having your criminals able to do drive by shootings, and your children go to corner store for chips and pop in your Hummer, while expecting to extricate yourself from the global mess your addictions have caused.

These conditions have been allowed to fester by your inability as a society to face them. Your society has caused the peoples of the entire planet to suffer from your immature actions. The forcing of the oppressive war on drugs down everyones throats globally and a wave of global corporate American Imperialism were supported by the American taxpayers.

That is why intelligent societies around the world choose their leaders more carefully. It really does matter in the long run whether your are lead by morons, industrial/military mercenaries, or imperialist thinking dictators.

There might be no conventional way out now, other than armed revolution.

The otherside has sure been preparing. First stripping your rights, next through the excuse of prohibition, bolstering the numbers of law-enforcement officers at their disposal and final the mental cowing of a population through media control.

Good luck if you try this one. But I don't think you guys have the stamina that the Iraqui people have.

A year before your military invaded Iraq, I stood with a mirror silently on your border in an attempt to get Americans to "reflect more deeply on their present course of action" to no avail (7 sundays Noon to One.) Your greatly talented lefty writers were conjouring up a reactionary political storm against those war mongers, also to no avail. If you had joined me, perhaps also the world, maybe we could have changed something before the momentum got out of control. As it is all of these forums are reactionary, not proactive, and do nothing to actually change anything. A well to shout down, so that any revolutionary passion might be dissipated.

Only a personal commitment to actual hard change by the masses will accomplish anything. The masses are busy watching TV and can't read. A violent revolution will lead to dictatorship and only a change of the oppressive guard.

What to do?
That is the question.

What To Do? 21.Mar.2007 23:14

Klaus Kaczor kkzor@shaw.ca

To understand what to do, we must try to find the exact cause of the problem. To get a solid grip on our present day multifaceted societies and the challenges facing humanity, we must understand the Ape the has just stepped down from the trees in terms of geological time. We are genetically the same creature that started to form into ever larger troops one hundred thousand years ago. There is no difference now to our base nature.




We are still genetically programmed by nature for her purposes, as she designed us. The institutions and societies that surround us have evolved from our genetic expression. The institution of religion, preceded territorial government and in many ways is a much stronger bond uniting a tribe than nationalism. It still overrides most national governments. As France has shown us, it is not easy to rationally contravene religion's power.




Today's most powerful governments are the most violent internationally. This power comes from their troop of primates' taxes. And it goes back to an aggressive human primate nature which we haven't yet learn to subjugate to reason. We still admire the deadly violent alpha primate like Rambo in our core. It is sexy to our females of breeding age to have these figures to yearn for. Other males try to emulate them. Just watch a movie or walk through the hood. It's all about male dominance to attract breeding females. This is all rolled up in our Hollywood visions, neighbourhood lawlessness, the size of one's automobile. It is the premise of the American Dream. Power flows from (rich) alpha male dominance.



There must be an acknowledgment of our genetic base predicament, and that there are really no political solutions. Sadly, I believe that the democracy that we have today is not the answer. That is why I asked the question at the end of my article "Do humans have a political gene?," "Perhaps Plato was right?




We need a new form of government that evolves to a present understanding of our human dilemma. A few weeks ago, on a program called, The Current www.cbc.ca, a Chinese intellectual was interviewed as to his understanding of where China with 1.6 billion people must go to survive in the future. His solution, given in perfect North American English, was to have one elected house, with one house chosen for their resumes, including their non political partisanship. These two houses of parliament would not be equal but the house using reason would prevail.




I have read a long time ago in Nevil Shute's book, "In Her Majesty's Service," about a weighted vote system. He envisioned an electorate that was not equal, but had more say depending on each individual's contribution to society. The more a person had invested in society the more of a vote they would get. Parenthood, high school, university, entrepreneurs who provided employment, anyone whose contribution was noted by society, all these and more ways to give more weight to a vital person's vote, were Shute's vision.




I would add my own tweak, by instituting direct democracy for all. There is no reason in today's technical society, that citizens should give up their right to have a say on every issue if they wish. Perhaps a major part of the problem is that democracy has not kept up with advances. What is in place today was conceived when communications across a wide territory kept everyone to electing a representative. Those days, I like to refer to as the days of the birch bark canoe in Canada. Today we could have a dial-in computerized voting centre to tabulate the people's will instantly, from their telephones, on every issue.




There needs to be an elected representative to argue the points and represent his constituents, but why do they have to be the sole wielders of the power? Wouldn't lobbyist become redundant? Also there must be safeguards put in place, such as a threshold number of voters participating before their elected representative's vote is superseded. This must range in the 2/3 % of the eligible voters participating to make sure the rational centre is involved.




If a person is drawn to be elected in such a system, their votes should be posted before the final voting time. This would be a true symbol of leadership to try to lead the electorate in his direction through rational dialogue, rather than underhanded politics. Politically polarized backroom powerhogs would not be drawn to such a system to begin with.




Even if the citizens seldom use their power, the fact that they own it to wield will encourage participation of the rational centre more often. It will draw leaders that cater to solutions which come from rational deduction. I call this system TADD "Technology Assisted Direct Democracy." This democratic lower house combined with a non political upper house, hired for a finite period for their non partisan expertise, might be a solution.




I, like Plato, think that we humans must be protected from our own base nature and lead by a strongly intelligent leader. The likes of GWB, who talks military tough (for a coward) must become a thing of the past. Someone like Al Gore who calls to common human goals, must be in our future. We have arrived at this fantastic state of techno advancement by the bootstraps of genius, why would we trust the future to those whose intellect is mired in 2000 year old religious writings. We need to embrace change, think outside the box, not be mired in more conflict of left and right.

Religion is a state within a state 22.Mar.2007 02:00

Klaus Kaczor kkzor@shaw.ca

We should make "changing state" our Religion

At least that has been true since the time when religion ruled totally. I believe that in all major religions, at least the ones I know, there is a statement similar to this one, "If there be a conflict between the laws of man and the laws of God, a true believer must follow the laws of God." To me it is ridiculous to try stopping would-be terrorists at the borders, while allowing internal groups to assert themselves above the laws of the land. The definition of terrorism--I mean the real kind, where people fly planes into buildings--hinges on the thinking of certain groups who feel that their ideology is above the laws of the land. These usually fundamentalist groups believe that they can use any means to try to prevail, because it is the will of their God.

The only fair and safe way to allow religions to operate, is to have them all accept the dominance of the state. This must be done in a non discriminatory manner, allowing each individual to express their beliefs in any personal fashion they wish. Yet on a political level, no religious leaders should be allowed to concentrate their congregation's votes to harness them to their ideology. That is directly subverting the freedom of choice of each individual's vote.

Conversely, to protect a population from the vagaries of political thought and guarantee everyone's right's to believe whatever they wish equally, we must pass a law to disallow Religious rhetoric in a public/ political venue. No political discussion during religious venues, no religious discussion during political venues, is a fair way to disengage from centuries of strife. Religion should never play role in governing a free society and neither should society dictate an individual's beliefs. We live in a finite world with flesh, blood, matter and energy. The spiritual, which is very real to the majority of people, has to touch each human individually and not be rolled up in governments driven by and driving religious politics.

As a free thinking human, who actually knows (not believes) that something besides what we can touch exists, reflected in many beautiful personal experiences, it truly pains me to hear people barely capable of rational thought, telling me I have to believe their creed to be saved. From what do I have to be saved? Save yourselves. I can't understand a nation of such pious believer perpetrating such horror, for such perverse reasons. A nation so cowardly, that it is afraid to be honest with itself and look in the mirror. Rather you would blame everyone else, while tormenting the world with your destructive, greedy dignity denying, policies.

A call to a new religious stand!

How much would it take to get a few Americans, the brave ones only, to get off their beer stained couches and stand silently on the Can/US border nearest them, silently shinning light into your land? You would be surprised how powerful that feels personally. The hour of silence alone is a spiritual time to reflect more "deeply" on your personal course of action. Their are many Canadians that would join you and soon as the summer comes the world could be invited to join us. I remember the summer of love. What we need now is the summer of "The stand." The warm weather is scheduled soon.

This might be the first paradigm shift directly caused by the first true free press in history, the Internet!

We might be able to roust right wing power, give impetus to general evolution thought the world by changing the paradigm shift from "suicide bombing" to "demonstration tourism."

Think of the power of this media to call forth impromptu raves and gatherings of a trivial nature. Reflect on the world's frustrated desire to get in GWB's face. Imagine of the revolutionary, personally powerful act of standing on the threshold of the mightiest warrior nation on the planet and shining a laser beam of light from our star into its dark heart. The human race is ripe to be harnessed on such a powerful mission. There are more than enough Canadians and Americans living near our 4000 mile long border. Plenty of room for the planet. Almost as if that were the real reason for it. Utube can be harnessed. All that is required is for the a critical mass of students from close universities, mothers from border towns, environmentalists who desire to have change. All are welcome and safe to demonstrate in Canada.

If we can get most of the lefty writers to encourage participation for a summer starting date, invite anyone for anytime the sun is shining, to stand, logging it with pictures demonstrators can upload themselves onto a dedicated website which will document "The Stand for Reason 2007?" Let's try out the networking possibilities with this new media and really make this puppy work for us. Bring your children, your lover, email your friends and relatives. If millions come this summer, change will happen, guaranteed.

The long border between the USA and Canada may have been created for an ethical stand like this, which will unite and give momentum to the human progressives for a while. Perhaps just in time to affect a change or two for the better. In the big picture this changing of the guards might only be a swing of the homeostatic pendulum, which over time cancels the left's and right's extremes. Maybe it is nature's way of progress, an ebb and flow.

ownership 26.Mar.2007 10:38

Lynn Molson lynnskis2@earthlink.net

Greed, complacency, and non-involvement have lead us blindly down this path. I too remember the days where we were united in a strong belief that we were good, God was good, and we beleived in our families, and trusted our leaders to make the right decisions. I too remember questioning why they made certain decisions, but trusted that reason would prevail, and a correction surely would be made. But greed, power, and selfish motives have prevailed within our business and world leaders. It is time that we, as individuals, demand standards based on high principles---and start with ourselves and our communities. Our planet is finite, our time here limited. We each individually can make a difference with our opinions, actions, and votes; the way we conduct our lives, the choices we individually make. Change starts as a committee of one, and an expectation that we each make a difference. Each of us have the responsibility to take consistant steps, however small, to make a difference. And to think of what is to be, if we don't.

once upon a time... 01.Apr.2007 16:49

plaintuff@msn.com plaintuff@msn.com

Shasta County CA. everyone made the parade. All us kids helped with
the community barbque; I marched with the 6th grade band. My mom
was on the women's ball team. Dad a fireman. All that. Them grandmaws
kin cook!

But I keep growing up, 6 kids later; life is better than ever.

The intensified BRAINWASHING of our kids seen in our schools, to adopt behaviors suited for optimum performance aka production line workers,
or, warriors.

Not much choice for most after a run though public schools these days,
a short stint in college or a war, then 50 years building as directed.

Trust me. Many People have urged our public serpents to utilize sound
plans directed the the OPPOSITE training in our public schools, including
myself. What other action or thought could an American consider?

Freedom. Not hard to understand. Like God.

Yes, some of US try our best. With the net it appears aboot to pay off!

My this last decade it HAS become "terrifyiing" though, eh?

The rule of law is really yet QUITE available too... end this tyranny,
powered by God it appears to me.

Respectfully submitted,


marilyn N.Calif.