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Now It Really Gets Weird: 9-11 Footage Shot by Israeli Spies Turns Up on al-Qaeda Website

The tape also contains what U.S. counterterror experts say may be never-before-broadcast video of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on New York's World Trade Center shot from across the East River in Brooklyn. The FBI says it is familiar with the video, which was provided by a friendly bystander.

By: Justin Raimondo

I shivered, a little, as I watched Lisa Meyers' report on NBC the other night:

"New and threatening messages have been received from Al Qaeda. There's a videotape aimed at American and Saudi Arabian rulers and another that includes what appears to be well-produced footage of the 9/11 attacks - raising still other questions."

This new 9/11 footage sure does raise a lot of other questions, first and foremost: who shot the video? It was posted on what is described as "a known Al-Qaeda website" last Wednesday, although it was taken down after a few days. Aside from the usual militaristic gymnastics by jihadi commandos, Meyers reports:

"The tape also contains what U.S. counterterror experts say may be never-before-broadcast video of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on New York's World Trade Center shot from across the East River in Brooklyn. The FBI says it is familiar with the video, which was provided by a friendly bystander. But that raises the question - how did a tape that was not widely circulated end up on a known Al Qaeda site?"

It's sinister to contemplate. Video believed to have been in U.S. government hands somehow pops up on a website alleged to be an Al Qaeda mouthpiece, and U.S. government officials hold it up as a reason to cower in fear before the threat of another major terrorist attack on American soil. Meanwhile, the President avers that Iraq is the central arena in his "war on terrorism," and his supporters claim that we're battling them in the streets of Baghdad so we don't have to fight them in the streets of Boise - or whatever alliterative cliche first comes to mind.

The idea that Al Qaeda had additional agents in the area, who knew the attack was coming, would certainly explain the unflinching steadiness of the camera's eye as it recorded the terror of that moment. But instead of inventing additional elements and players, it's always best to stick with what we already know. So who else just happened to be videotaping the World Trade Center attack that day?

Hours after the terrorist struck, five people were arrested in New Jersey as they taped the WTC from their vantage point across the Hudson River in New Jersey. A witness identified only as "Maria" by ABC News said she saw:

"Three young men kneeling on the roof of a white van in the parking lot of her apartment building. 'They seemed to be taking a movie,' Maria said. The men were taking video or photos of themselves with the World Trade Center burning in the background, she said.

"What struck Maria were the expressions on the men's faces. 'They were like happy, you know ... They didn't look shocked to me. I thought it was very strange,' she said."

Even stranger - it turned out the five were Israelis. When law enforcement swooped down on this crew, they found them in possession of $4,700 in cash, box cutters, and multiple foreign passports. Police dogs reacted as if the presence of explosives was indicated, and, as the Bergen County Record reported:

"Sources close to the investigation said they found other evidence linking the men to the bombing plot. 'There are maps of the city in the car with certain places highlighted,' the source said. 'It looked like they're hooked in with this. It looked like they knew what was going to happen when they were at Liberty State Park.'"

These guys were held for three months, much of the time in solitary confinement, and extensively interrogated. One refused to take a lie detector test for weeks, and then failed it. All five had been in the employ of Urban Moving Systems, of Weehawken, New Jersey, the company name on their van's registration.

Police raided the Urban Moving Systems warehouse 48 hours later, and carted away a lot of computer hard drives and other materials. The owner, one Dominik Suter, fled to Israel the next day. A few months later, Suter's name turned up on a list of terrorist suspects circulated by the FBI to European financial institutions.

The apprehended Israelis claimed that they were merely "documenting" the day's events: police confiscated their photographic equipment, and whatever film they had taken. The new film shows the World Trade Center burning from the Brooklyn side of the East River, while the Urban Movers were filming from the vantage point of Liberty State Park, across the Hudson River in New Jersey. But whomever had foreknowledge of the attack on the World Trade Center could have taken that film - and Al Qaeda operatives are not the only possible suspects.

I have written at length about the five arrested Israelis in my new book, The Terror Enigma: 9/11 and the Israeli Connection, and I commend the attention of my readers to this modest little volume if they want to know more. I bring this up, not merely to plug my book, but to point out that we can't begin to understand the strange expropriation of this previously unknown footage outside the context provided by The Terror Enigma.

As I prove in my book, Al Qaeda did not carry out its plans for a major terrorist attack entirely undetected. The Israelis were hot on the trail of the 9/11 hijackers, and must have had some foreknowledge of what happened that fateful day.

Did they shoot the footage we are just now seeing, or was an Al Qaeda film team at the ready the moment the twin towers were hit? Readers of The Terror Enigma will understand how and why the former scenario is just as likely the latter.

As to how, in that case, the video passed into the hands of Al Qaeda's propagandists - it wouldn't be the first time the fruits of Israeli spying operations in the U.S. fell into the hands of America's enemies.

In any case, how this new 9/11 footage, previously known only to the FBI and a "friendly bystander," wound up in Al Qaeda's possession - or in the hands of a website claiming to represent them - is a mystery that the U.S. government seems quite uninterested in unraveling.


Dec. 4 New and threatening messages have been received from al-Qaida. There's a videotape aimed at American and Saudia Arabian rulers and another that includes what appears to be well-produced footage of the 9/11 attacks raising still other questions.

THE MENACING new al-Qaida video obtained by NBC News features a new look a terror cell that claims to be training inside Saudi Arabia mugs for the camera with most faces blurred to conceal identities.
Their attire and weapons look like a professional assault team and they appear to be practicing an entry drill consistent with tactics used in bombings this year in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, where small teams of shooters breach security to get car bombs in place.
It's apparently the latest propaganda piece from al-Qaida, with dire warnings for the West and the Saudi royal family.
Terrorism analyst Ben Venzke, who supplies material to U.S. law enforcement, downloaded the material from a known al-Qaida Web site: "It's significant that al-Qaida is training terrorists within Saudi Arabia because it would appear they are preparing for a continued campaign of regular strikes both against the Saudi regime and Western interests," Venzke said.
The only man who is identifiable is Abdel Al-Otaibe, killed by Saudi security forces only days before the November bombings in Riyadh. "I strongly encourage young Muslims to join the jihad for Allah's sake, to protect our land and to drive Christians and Jews out of Muslim countries," Al-Otaibe said on the tape.
The tape appears to be real, because it was posted late Wednesday night on a known al-Qaida Web site produced by a company that has made other bin Laden tapes.
The tape also contains what U.S. counterterror experts say may be never-before-broadcast video of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on New York's World Trade Center shot from across the East River in Brooklyn. The FBI says it is familiar with the video, which was provided by a friendly bystander.
But that raises the question how did a tape that was not widely circulated end up on a known al-Qaida site?
Experts emphasize that these videos serve many purposes. "The release of the tapes clearly has a way of globalizing others to carry out suicide operations," said terrorism expert and NBC News consultant Steve Emerson.
U.S. officials said Thursday they are anxious to study this latest message from al-Qaida, which was posted only hours after the State Department issued still another warning about possible terror attacks against Americans in Riyadh.

Lisa Myers is NBC News' senior investigative correspondent.


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Fair Warning 10.Dec.2003 11:03

boo hoo

Republican Justin Raimondo of antiwar.com is throwing tantrums over his drivel being posted here. Apparently he doesn't write for "commies" and those who don't respect property rights.

So is this "new" video available yet -- anyone have a link? 10.Dec.2003 14:54

Where is the video shoot by the Jews.

So is this "new" video available yet -- anyone have a link?

memory hole is trying to get the video 10.Dec.2003 15:58

suki sapperstein

memory hole is trying to get the video... maybe check their website


boo-hoo for justin raimondo.

msnbc link 10.Dec.2003 20:30


does anyone know why the msnbc link dosent seem to play the video? ive been trrying in vain to watch it, and it dosent seem to work.

i dont really watch TV, so i would nice to see it online.

any help would be appreciated.......

dept. of propaganda 10.Dec.2003 21:47


the department of homeland security probably called up their man over at MSNBC and had the video scrubbed. all in a day's wark, ya know.

The al-CIAda movie!! What did it show? 12.Dec.2003 06:42


Being from another country, and not an avid tv viewer, I didn't see the video gathered from the cutting room floor over there at the spooks' works and shown on national screens to TERRIFY y'all. - - Did it show planes'n'stuff hitting WTC with fireworks and (later on) demolitions? - - Whatever they showed, it would have to be trying to plug holes in their stupid Official Legend. - - So I'd quite like to see what they're nervous about.


Comment on the Justin Raimondo bash comment. 13.Jan.2004 19:31


Given the fact that many IndyMedia outlets allow themselves to be used by Zionist smear mongers (as we've seen in the attacks against the website  http://www.stop-fascism.org ), I don't blame Justin for not wanting his material published on IndyMedia.

maybee it was "chemical ali" 13.Jan.2004 20:52


What in the world would cause, a 4" THICK piece of backbone centerpiece weapons grade 6 super steel as per building code (WTC) combined with the overuse of asbestos and backed up by sprinkler systems and documented reports by firefighters that we have this fire under control , to come tumbling down?
CONtaigious building collapses mysteriously right next to WTC towers one and two on the same day and they were not hit by planes or falling debris???????????????????????

I don't even think the hogtied media belives the cover story?

The Secret of WTC 13.Jan.2004 21:34

Civil Engineering Guru

truthseeker, didn't you know that WTC were made from plywood? No wonder, they collapsed into PIECES.

new footage of wtc attacks 13.Jan.2004 21:52


this movie can be downloaded from www.intellnet.org/media/index.html
right click where it says "intellnet hosted" and save target as. This movie is three parts, part 1,2,3

Not strange when you know who 'Al-Qaeda' is 13.Jan.2004 21:59


Al- Qaeda is CIA-MOSSAD.

Who is Tim Osman anyway? Ask Jeeves, he knows!

And check out the Al-Qaeda information at whatreallyhappened.com and Libertythink.com too.
Eye opening.

Another possibility of the source of the video 13.Jan.2004 22:09

Ed Lewis elewis@shighway.com

Bush stated on two different occasions that he watched the first plane hit the towers. He was in Florida watching closed circuit TV before entering the classroom. The only source for him to watch the first craft hit could NOT have been on regular TV since no TV station had it on film. Therefore, the source was either the CIA or some organization controlled by or in cahoots with the CIA.

It could have been al Qaeda but only if al Qaeda is as many suspect - a creation of the CIA or some other black op of the US Government. It could even have been the Israelis, but I think only if the Israelis were working hand in hand with the US Government. Otherwise, Bush could never have seen the first craft hit.

not far fetched 14.Jan.2004 00:54

little red corvette

this is not conspiracy, its the truth. there is no mysterious chain of events. everything happens on a natural way.

It's old footage 14.Jan.2004 00:57


This is not new footage. The 'expert' lied about that.

On thememoryhole site it's claimed it's used in the Nova documentary Why the Towers Fell

The same footage is used also in documentary: Wtc - How The Twin Towers Collapsed, by Darlow Smithson productions for Channel 4/The Learning Channel, 2001

Download the video from Emule, as I did, and check for your self.

Idiots Idiots or the give me more Faux News method. 14.Jan.2004 01:40


Where do these crazies (like the poster above), get their conspiracy theories??!?
Oh, pardon me, they get them from television.

I cannot think for myself Goulash (excellent for the Gulag):

1 part Faux news
1 part unnamed, high-level government source
1 part heavily redacted government report
1 part manufactured evidence
8 parts social pressure

Inject repeatedly and slather with low interest rates. Scare daily.

Serve time.

Is this the video? 14.Jan.2004 02:45


I think I have seen this 'new' video, which if I recall correctly, I found a couple of months after 911 posted on a website that had links and collections of related videos, both official news clips and private citizen clips. On the soundtrack it sounds like a man and a woman who are clearly shocked when the 2nd plane hits the tower from the left side. The clip starts in a slow zoom out from the towers to a very wide shot showing the billowing smoke, but then he quickly zooms in just after the second plane's impact. They both make lots of comments like "what the f**k was that" and "they're f**kin' bombin' it." I never saw this clip on TV, and have tried to attach a copy to this message. If this is the video in question, I don't think there is anything sinister about it turning up on any another website, since it was easily available on the internet many months ago.
WTC Clip
WTC Clip

Israelis not behind video 14.Jan.2004 08:58

Atty. John J. Loftus

I am the author of several books on terrorism and anti-Israel smears. Johnloftus.org.

Mossad did try most strenuously to warn US intell from august to september that an attack was coming soon. They did not know where or precisely when. Yes, they were following some known terrorist supporters to try and find out more. No, they did not take the videotape. Yes, there has been a concerted efforts by Arab extremists to blame Israel instead of Al Qaeda for 9/11.

Is this the video? -Nah 14.Jan.2004 09:30


278356.wmv is not the 'new' footage.. shot from more or less the same direction, but from a greater distance. The 'new' footage is shot from underneath the bridge that is visible in 278356.wmv from above.

I've attached three clips. The clip from the Channel 4 documentary(file 2), is a clipped version of parts of the other file 1.

1) footage from thememoryhole
2) clip from Wtc - How The Twin Towers Collapsed 2001
3) clip of alleged Al Qaeda tape, from alleged Al Qaeda site
alleged new footage
alleged new footage
clip from Wtc - How The Twin Towers Collapsed
clip from Wtc - How The Twin Towers Collapsed
clip from alleged Al Qaeda tape
clip from alleged Al Qaeda tape

To Truth 14.Jan.2004 09:44


Al-Qaeda cannot be MOSSAD/CIA.

It's more plausible that MOSSAD were not "following" the hijackers moves, but planning them. Or maybe, they acted as Al-Qaeda operatives, fooled the hijackers into thinking they were also Al-Qaeda (and possibly funded them), and then abandoned them when 9-11 happened.

The CIA had nothing to do with it since MOSSAD works independently of any US secret service organisation. They are not from the same country, so their national security policies (as well as foreign operations) are drastically different. What really strikes me as suspicious is that the owner of the moving company flew to Israel immediately (a MOSSAD agent too?) after being investigated. Hmmmmmm.

Disinformation and deceipt is the name of the game in the secret service. You should read some books on KGB tactics during the Cold War. Interesting stuff.

Re: Bushwacked 14.Jan.2004 10:54


"Where do these crazies (like the poster above), get their conspiracy theories??!?
Oh, pardon me, they get them from television. "

Don't you think you have to know what you actually disagree with, before starting a rant?
For your information I don't think 'Wtc - How The Twin Towers Collapsed' is really convincing, and it sure doesn't hurt to download it, and watch it. Their consulted scientists should have mentioned the WTC7 collapse at least. I only say that documentary contains the alleged 'new' footage and was produced in 2001. Hopsickers's video M. Atta & the Venice Flying Circus also features the 'new' footage. I don't know when that was produced, but Hopsicker had acces to that footage at that time. It seems that the footage is used in so many productions that it must be very clear where it came from. It was offered to all production companies, and it wasn't Osama on a flying carpet distributing the tape and cashing in on it.

You want conspiracy? Check this (crappy) translation of an old Dutch article about the web of fraud Rudi Dekkers was involved in before fleeing to the US after he got convicted. He even stole $35.000 (70.000 DFL) from an amateur soccerclub!
 link to www.worldlingo.com

original:  http://oud.refdag.nl/bui/011004bui09.html
translate webpages dutch to english here:  http://www.worldlingo.com/products_services/worldlingo_translator.html

Note: Ruud Dekkers is the official name of Dutchman Rudi Dekkers, he changed it for obvious reasons..

Wow --- it's amazing how weed will make you think you're a genius 16.Feb.2004 09:30

diego savino

CIA behind Bin Laden...
Mossad behind WTC attacks...
LBJ killed JFK...

"Wake up and smell the media cover-up, man!"

It it consistantly amazing how, with no evidence, stoner-conspiracy theorists are so quick to blame their own govt, military and leaders for every conceivable world calamity.

put down the bong and answer me this... if you can't keep secret the fact that you cheated on your girlfriend last week at that party when only 2 people knew about it, how is the gov't supposed to keep quiet operation involving hundred of people?

And many be the reason why the mainstream media isn't showing us the WTC attacks over and over again is because they know every time they show them the American public support for attack just about any Arab nation jumps by about 10%!

Ever check out televisionarchive.org --- they were showing the footage for about a year until it became clear to them that people were watching it to get hyped for taking out Iraq and of course we can't have that, so they took it down.

It was supposed to be a "public resource" --- until they started seeing a lot of AOL users (read Joe Public) logging on to the site, then it's off the air. Becuase god forbid that the American public get the idea that there is a Pan-Islamic conspiracy headed by AQ and GI involving multiple governments, NGO and terror networks.

But then again, that's just zionist war-mongering propaganda.

So all you heads who hate the country you live in because the government does what is necc. to protect the flow of cheap oil that Western civ. is built on --- all you US haters... put down the bong and pick up a bomb.

Strap a suicide vest and do your part.


note to Diego Savino 05.Jun.2007 16:47


Hey Diego Savino,

"How are they supposed to have kept it secret..."

Here's your answer you moron: If YOU had been part of a conspiracy to, say, ambush an armored car, kill its crew and steal the money, would YOU go around telling people things that would end up with you indicted for murder, grand larceny etc.?? Especially if you were financially much better off for keeping the secret, versus ruining your life by exposing it?? Then how much more so if you were part of the 9/11 plot?? Do you even think about things before you type them?

But here's something for you to answer:
How is it even remotely possible for 110-story skyscrapers to not "collapse" but DISINTEGRATE as seen on video footage, straight down the path of most resistance, at freefall rate?? Meaning the uppermost few floors are falling THROUGH the remainder of the building as quickly, meaning as effortlessly, as falling through AIR? Any ideas?? Is there any way in the world for the majority of a building, a solid, to offer NO MORE RESISTANCE THAN AIR to something falling into and through it? Without explosives involved I mean? If you say "yes", I have a little experiment for you: Try walking through your solid front door without opening it first, then try it with the door open so you have to pass through nothing but air. Tell me which takes more time. Tell me which is possible. Douchebag.

Figure that one out and then we can discuss the hundred other "discrepancies" in the official fairy tale of 9/11, like how guys who can't fly a Piper Cub to save their asses could somehow fly Boeing 757s and 767s like experts, Hani Hanjour even supposedly making an amazing corkscrew turn to zoom in just a few feet above the ground to hit the Pentagon on the side with the fewest amount of military personnel in it, the side farthest away from Rumsfeld and the top brass, the side that was under renovation at the time and had just before been structurally reinforced to help prevent a fire there from spreading; we can then talk about how the "hijackers" got into cockpits that are by law LOCKED FROM THE INSIDE, somehow before the pilots were able to punch in the four digit code that signals a hijacking is underway; we can talk about the little matter of the "cell phone calls" featuring prominently in the legend of "flight 93" were IMPOSSIBLE in 2001 from above 8,000 feet, let alone the 35,000 feet the official myth has them at; we can talk about how the debris fields of "flight 93" being miles apart show that it disintegrated in midair; we can talk about WTC # 7 building, hit by no airplanes, still managed to implode itself later on that awful day, looking like a textbook controlled demolition complete with two parallel rows of squibs going up the face of the building an instant before "collapse"; we can talk about the record amount of "put" orders placed on the stock of United Airlines, American Airlines, and Morgan Stanley-Dean Witter in the week before 9/11 which made a fortune for SOMEBODY; we can talk about the Pentagon announcing the day before 9/11 that it can't account for $2.3 trillion, picking the best possible day to announce it so that it would be swamped by 9/11 news the following day and forgotten; or any of the other many, many MANY pieces of evidence that make it painfully obvious that 9/11 was a false flag operation. Who benefits you stupid asshole? Who benefits?