Child Predator Posts here

How do you know he posts here or even "frequents these boards"?

 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2003/10/273965.shtml

 http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2003/07/268438.shtml

I think you would have been much better off choosing a different title for this article. A person who may have posted twice (since nothing stops a person from posting using someone else's name and email) does not indicate that the person "frequents these boards". And likewise, the implication that this person posts regularly with only 2 posts to support that claim seems disingenuous to me. If you are really interested in information about this individual a different phrasing would have probably helped your cause. I do hope that you are sincere and notify the proper authorities to deal with this information. This doesn't seem to be the appropriate place.

If you read the links, you'll see that he is not shy about providing all the information you could want. Also, it is important to clarify that I am not looking for more information on this person, rather I wanted to keep others informed. I was at the home where Jeff Cameron planned his rendezvous with a 12 year old child. I do not know Jeff nor have I conversed with him other than to discuss his intentions with the 12 year old child. Instead of answering to the charges, he ran away. I am neither the admin for www.Perverted-Justice.com or an employee. I am only a concerned citizen who lives in the Portland area.

Hyperbole?? Possibly. But the point is that he is known here and others on this site know him and have conversed with him.
Is this the approriate venue to post this information? Absolutely. I'd take out billboard on the side of the Rose Garden to warn everyone about a potential pedophile/child molestor.

I can appreciate one's reticence to perpetuate some vindictive lie. Please refer to the evidence at hand and judge for yourselves.

Instead of shooting the messenger, how's about you just take the info for what it's worth. Who cares if he posted here once or a hundred times? If you have kids, know that this guy is out there looking for them online, trying to meet up with them in order to have sex with them. If this means nothing to you, then let it go; it's no skin off your nose. For those who have children in the area, though, it's a heads up about what can and does happen online.

Thanks for posting that information, Aces Wired.

Even the Bushs could post here that's what open means

I don't see how offering constructive criticism is "shooting the messenger." Please don't look for hostility and antagonism where there is none. I have nothing against this information but I see very clearly how the message could be communicated more effectively.

BTW, here's another posting but I think this is the last of them:  http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2003/11/275522.shtml

I find it interesting that this individual is very supportive of the police. It reminds me of the republican fund-raiser that was found guilty of producing child pornography ( http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2003/04/62073.shtml). I guess this says something about those who fetishize power, control, and authority (assuming that the person posting here was indeed the same person in the chat rooms, and that they are actually the person whose identity is being portrayed which seems doubtful given the linked information above). As the site says, "However, one must remember, we're profiling an IM name. Whether or not the owner of that IM name engages in that conversation, someone with access to that IM name is."

I would like to point out that there are four listings at qwestdex for Jeff or Jefferey Cameron in the state of Oregon. This means that there are probably that many or more who are unlisted. The person who posts here at indymedia under the name "Jeff Cameron" may simply have the bad luck of sharing a name with the guy who tried to hook up with a 12 year old. You have no way of knowing that that isn't the case, and so your assertions that the person who posts here under that name is a child predator border on libel. There are four listings at qwestdex for Jeff or Jefferey Cameron in the state of Oregon. This means that there are probably that many or more who are unlisted.

I saw the criticism, but not the construction. I don't get it...a guy (or girl) posts an alert about a potential pervert and he's called a liar. You, yourself found another post by the guy in question...hell, and that email is easy enough to look up inst it?? I don't believe everything I read, but I'm also willing to check out the info before calling a person a liar. I would prefer to err on the side of caution if I ever met this character. That's just me...maybe "Curious" would let a potential pedophile babysit HIS kids.

It's like debate 101 in here. Pasta Boy should read more closely for the many ways I suggested this mesage could be better presented and also notice the distinct lack of anyone being called, or even implied to be, a liar. Anyone is free to be as cautious as they want but if all we're talking about is anonymous internet postings I wouldn't put too much stake into it (though you can feel free to turn down anyone with this name for a babysitting job and that wouldn't bother me a bit). Although I do have a pretty good idea now. I'm going to pretend to be a pedophile and give out the names, phone numbers, and addresses of people I don't like. So long as you get one of these self-styled "internet vigilantes" and not the FBI you're set. I can see the headlines now as portland police officers are repeatedly caught trying to have solicit sex from 12 year old children.

I would agree except I have proof that we have the right Jeff Cameron. He provided his work number email addy, home addy, home phone number and picture to the person he thought was a 12 year old girl. Then he showed up at the house..looking exactly like the picture he submitted...he is Own3d. He says he's Jeff Cameron, he provides proof that he IS Jeff Cameron, and he provides a picture saying "hey this is me..Jeff Cameron" And then he shows up at his target's house looking exactly like his picture and saying "Hi, I'm Jeff Cameron". What more proof do you need??

Personally, I did my duty here..you can take it or leave it. But I can 100% guarantee that I have the right person, and that this person DID attempt to have sex with a child. If Jeff would like to file a libel suit, please...by all means..we can walk down to the police station together with a copy of his chatlog and photo and the 4 whitnesses who saw him show up at the house he planned to meet a child at.

"hyperbole suggests this is disingenuous"

Hyperbole = exageration.

Disingenuous = untruthfull.

You called him a liar.

English. Since you are attempting to use it, perhaps you could learn the meaning of what you are trying to say, hmmm?

Aces Wired apparently did a search for the name on google and came up with this site and the 2 stories he mentioned above and decided to inform people that a person that had posted here a couple of times had been involved with their operation. He probably has no idea how many posts there are to this site and probably did not mean any ill-will by implying that this person "frequented this board" when in reality this individual seems to have rarely shown up and posted on a very select set of stories with a very similar set of responses. Thanks to Aces Wired and curious for posting the links so that we can make up our minds. Since this individual was tied to the Jessica Williams murder perhaps the police that so like to actively monitor this site will take note (if this isn't old information to them).

I tried to go to the site perverted justice but I got a message saying site not found. Did you key it in wrong? Please check the site yourself and see if this is true.

Try this:  http://www.perverted-justice.com/

Try this one: www.perverted-justice.com

The specific link is
 http://www.perverted-justice.com/index.php?archive=jc_omsi_ussblueback_edu

Now Aces Wired may not read this site and probably has no idea how often people try to discredit the readers and contributors here. He clearly feels that this is important information and so chose to use terms to get people's attention despite them not necessarily being accurate. But the phrasing did not lead me to see this as accurate so I suggested ways in which the message could be clarified. Posting 3 times does not indicate "a frequent poster" on a site with tens or hundreds of thousands of posts and so adjusting the language might help lend credibility to the information. Or, as I said, "hyperbole suggests this is disingenuous" which is not the same as "using hyperbole proves that this is disingenuous." Avoiding unnecessary exaggeration helps ones argument and lends credibility to the information presented.

However, I'm feeling like a frequent poster to this thread so I'll be quiet now. I'm glad this dialog was helpful at eliciting more information and details.

And the link in the article has a space that shouldn't be there. Remove the space and it should work.

I agree with you curious. It could have been worded differently.

But now that the facts are out, what do people want to do? I don't know if Indymedia is the place to deal with this but the website had some interesting observations on what not to do.

Like under no circumstances should you call this guy between midnight and 6 am looking for hot ass. Under no circumstances should you and a group of friends flier the neighborhood with his picture and his stats.

If you decide you can obey this advise or you can chose to disagree. It is up to you.

To Aunt Sam: Yes, the web URL is "keyed in wrong". They accidentally put a space in the url. They typed "www. Perverted-Justice.com", when it should be "www.Perverted-Justice.com" (also, as far as I've ever seen it is not necessary to capitalize the "P" and the "J", as URLs are not case sensitive. geeks: feel free to correct me if I'm wrong).

To Aces Wired: I take that back, now that I have done some research. What I meant was that the guy who posts here might not be the same Jeff Cameron that was featured on perverted justice, however after researching the site, I see that the person who has commented here used the same email address as the guy featured in the article (he also puts the word OMSI in the author name field), which DOES seem to establish a connection.

To skeptics: Please visit the www.perverted-justice.com site and read the article about jeff cameron (http://www.perverted-justice.com/index.php?archive=jc_omsi_ussblueback_edu), then read his last comment here on PIMC (http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2003/10/273965.shtml), and then read the perverted justice FAQ in its entirety before making your final opinion. I myself usually tend to be very argumentative, and one of my character flaws is that it's hard for me to backtrack and admit when I'm wrong, but I must say that I now am inclined to believe the original poster's accusations in this case.

Anyone can post under any name.

This fact is used by rightwingers to defame and libel leftists.

It is also used by Zionists against Anti-Zionists.

I would recommend suspending judgment.

So what's the angle for the "defamer" in this case? What's in it for him?

Seriously, fair-mindedness is noble and admirable, but Jeefy has done everything possible to make sure we know this is the same guy. Do what you want with that information, but cut the namby-pamby hand wringing, wouldja?

This Jeff Cameron is the same Jeff Cameron, which you'd know if you'd bothered to READ the previous posts to yours.

I was reading through alot of information on perverted-justice.com since there have been several sites that appear to be watchdogs of the watchdogs and one site in particular has been investigating perverted-justice.com for over a year. That site is called  http://www.corrupted-justice.com (I am hoping that I typed it correctly).

It appears that the owner of perverted-justice.com had a contributor named Satine, who was only 16 years old when the owner of perverted-justice.com had her going into chat rooms, having hardcore sexual chats with men in their 20s and 30s (and sometimes even older), and even watching them masturbate on webcam, in order to "bust" them for posting on his website. From what this site has said, that information has been confirmed and passed onto law enforcement. They have also confirmed that a possible contributor at perverted-justice.com named Erika was 15 when she became friends with Xavier Von Erck (The owner of perverted-justice.com) and was helping out while she too was a minor.

It should be further noted, that the members of the site who found this information (and alot of other evidence of illegal activities and wrong doing going on at perverted-justice.com) was hacked by the owner of perverted-justice.com three times, and before they were hacked, Xavier Von Erck, from Portland Oregon, had emailed their server posing as the owner of that site, basically had stolen the identity of the corrupted-justice.com website, and claimed to have lost his passwords so they would reset them and let Xavier in. They have also found evidence of identity theft against another one of their members, and the people at perverted-justice.com found their information and harassed them to the point that the FBI had to get involved. The FBI are actively looking into perverted-justice.com at this point, from what my sources at that site have been able to tell me.

Now, what you will see is after this gets posted, I will be accused of being someone from the corrupted-justice.com site, by those supporters of perverted-justice.com and I will be accused of everything from being a former "bust" to being a pedophile and child rapist. (That is what they have accused everyone who has vocally spoken out against them, including a well known and well respected civil rights defense attorney).

I am here to make sure the truth gets out, and am NOT actively involved in www.corrupted-justice.com nor am I a former bust.

Those from Portland Oregon need to watch out because it seems the one who is exploiting minors in your area is the owner of perverted-justice.com. Satine was a 16 year old child when Xavier was virtually pimping her out in cyberspace in order to boost the number of "Busts" he had on his site.

I am just a truth seeker who wants to make sure that the truth is heard, and you should check out  http://www.corrupted-justice.com because they actually post evidence to back up what they say, and it is evidence which is verifiable through online searches, and headers, and other information which comes from sites not associated with them. So it is evidence which is not biased.

Thank you for taking the time to read this and for caring enough to ensure the truth gets out.

TruthSeeker

One website who has been investigating the illegal tactics of perverted-justice.com for over a year has found incriminating evidence against the owner of perverted-justice.com Xavier Von Erck (I will not give his real name).

New evidence uncovered, and subsequently turned over to the Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI) and to Oregon authorities, shows, and proves that the owner of perverted-justice.com has not only corrupted the morals of several minors at his site, but that he has exploited at least one minor.

Satine, a "PeeJ" contributor, who uses the line "Mrs. Von Erck", was only 16 years old when Xavier and the (at that time) co-owner Frank Fencepost was having her have hardcore sexual chats with men in their 20's and 30's, and even possibly having her watch these men masturbate on webcam in order to post it on the front page of perverted-justice.com. She was a 16 year old child when she did her first "bust".

Further, there is evidence collected from the perverted-justice.com forums which indicates there are many more minors (Erika was 15 when she became online friends with Xavier and 16 when she started to help out at PeeJ), Crowgirl09 is a 14 year old. Geris was 13 and involved in a "sex" thread on the PeeJ forums in which they were discussing the taste of semen. There are many more minors involved on the PeeJ forums.

Further, evidence has come out, and has been turned over to the above mentioned authorities that proves that Xavier Von Erck himself stole someone's identity and contacted their server host (it was a server that hosts a website called www.corrupted-justice.com) claiming that he was this other person, so he could get them to reset the passwords for the corrupted-justice.com website.

On top of that, server logs indicate that Xavier Von Erck and those from perverted-justice.com were responsible for three successful hackings of the corrupted-justice.com website, and another website called AVSO.

Now, if you think this behavior is acceptable, then by all means, pat them on the back. But that behavior is criminal and like the front of the www.corrupted-justice.com website states, "Two Wrongs Do Not Make A Right".

The chats these alleged perverts have are illegal and I do not condone nor support them. I think each one of them should be turned over to law enforcement and if found guilty in a court of law, be sentenced according to the laws. Each one of them-- not one here and there, but all of them. Those who prey on or exploit minors should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Even when they exploit a 16 year old who uses the online name Satine.

But to hack, perpetrate identity theft (several cases of that), harass, exploit minors, and everything else, that does not justify catching a "wannabe pervert". The ends do not justify the means.

The truth about the REAL perverted-justice.com are emerging, and the authorities now know about it. I just felt those who Aces Wired was trying to snowball here should be told the truth, not their "cleaned up version" of it.

Was there a "Child Predator" posting here? We will never know, since perverted-justice.com failed to contact authorities and have it investigated. And if the person they are alleging was actually a child predator, your children are no safer now than they were before, because that alleged child predator is still roaming your forums, and your streets.

PJ had predicted last year to get 12 conviction for 2005.

Quote:

The two most recent brings our conviction totals to 14 since June of 2004. We're awaiting word on two other cases that were supposed to go into the sentencing phase in May, so that number should rise even higher.

Source:  http://www.perverted-justice.com/index.php?updates=recent

See the convictions:  http://www.perverted-justice.com

Police contact PJ for assistance.

Quote:

On Feb. 1, Madruga contacted volunteers who run the controversial Web site Perverted-Justice.com, and chat with would-be child molesters online and over the phone to expose them.

"A lot of agencies view them as a vigilante group," Madruga said. "But there's a lot that use them as a tool because they have a lot of resources that smaller agencies like us don't have."

Source:  http://www.gilroydispatch.com/news/contentview.asp?c=157815

(Madruga is Gilroy police Detective Mitch Madruga)


In addition, two other child predators have pleaded guilty to offenses related to chats with perverted-justice contributors.

And finally - A lawyer who thought he was above the law, and a child predator to boot turned down a plea bargain. Well a search warrant not only turned up the original conversation with what he thought was a child - but several other chats with suspected children also. Ah hell - here read about it yourself:

 http://news.cincypost.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050518/NEWS01/505180351

The battle is far from over. As long as predators lurk online looking for children to have sex with, PJ and other will be watching.

Philip W

PhilipW,
I have to ask you this, though- why does the last "conviction" count? The "bust" threatened Xavier and also a contributor of perverted-justice.com and was convicted of the threat-- he did not get convicted of the illegal chat he had, due to those from perverted-justice.com not being trained law enforcement and not collecting proper evidence. How does that count as a conviction and "taking a wannabe pedophile" off of the streets, and protecting children?

Further, would you care to explain to the people reading this forum, why it was acceptable for Xavier, the owner of perverted-justice.com to use REAL minors (Satine who was 16 for her first chat and Demetrious who was either 15 or 16) to have cyber sex and watch men in their 30s masturbate on webcam, so Xavier could put it on his website? Why is that acceptable? Why is it acceptable for a guy to be a "pervert" if he solicits a minor online, but Xavier is NOT a pervert for exploiting a minor online? Making a 16 year old girl watch a man masturbate to completion on webcam, so it can be posted on the perverted-justice.com website on January 1, 2002, is exploitation of a minor, FURTHER, by Xavier not reporting those busts to law enforcement, he literally helped a felon (since having syber sex and hooking up with an actual minor online is a felony crime) get "embarassed" enough to change his screen name and just use a different screen name to prey on more children online.

I am sure the people here feel that is as wrong as what the busts do. Wouldn't you agree, PhilipW? I am sure you would agree, since you, as a moderator of perverted-justice.com supposedly want to protect children.

Now, let's look at the actual conviction rate, and see how great it TRULY is:
Number of busts posted currently on perverted-justice.com: 664
Number of busts removed due to Frank Fencepost being fired: 62
Number of busts removed a few years after posting due to non
phone verification, so they were not certain it was accurate: 181
Number of busts removed from this explaination:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Perverted-Justice.com/Archive_2
"Apollo also said when they moved from the oldest version of the site to the domain name database, that there was a loss of about 100 very old busts which were never properly re-archived. He told me the official number is the number you will find in the site, 592 (there is a little counter on the front page which is automatically updated), but adding all those numbers up, you can get considerably more counting these old files no longer on the site (possibly over 900)."
about 100.

So, add
664 (current number on their site)
181 (removed due to not verifying accurately)
100 (approximate number that were not properly re-archived so lost)
62 (removed when contributor Frank Fencepost was kicked out for his psychotic behavior against one of the phone verifiers)

and the grand total of busts at the perverted-justice.com website is:

1,007 busts, and only about 15 convictions??? So they stopped 15 out of 1,007 predators?? NOT A GOOD TRACK RECORD, and all of those convictions were for OTHER Offenses (such as child porn, parole violations on previous sentances for other crimes)or the busts pleading guilty to prevent their families from going through the embarassment. NOT ONE SINGLE CONVICTION ON THE CHAT LOGS HOLDING UP IN A COURT OF LAW.

I would have to say that for perverted-justice.com to be seen as not a big joke in the portland area, especially since Xavier Von Erck (not his real name, but his anonymous/coward name), owner of perverted-justice.com, lives in Portland, I would say they had better start doing the RIGHT thing, and turning EVERY bust, past and present, over to law enforcement.

I am sure you would agree with me, PhilipW, since you really DO want to protect children, right??

(now watch, people-- this may get good-- they will try a smear campaign against me, like they do every single person who speaks out against them).

And within a week I intend on posting news articles in which REAL LAW ENFORCEMENT condemn what perverted-justice.com does, and speaks out against perverted-justice.com for being illegitimate and being just downright foolish.

Please examine the evidence at:
 http://www.corrupted-justice.net/?archive=28
and the pictures at:
 http://www.corrupted-justice.net/?archive=29

You will understand why this so-called "Real Activist" is against perverted-justice.com

Real Activist, aka Matt Carpenter, aka Charles Canfield, admits molesting children.

For proof, go here

 http://www.corrupted-justice.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=948&start=0

To see photos of this sick man, go here

 http://www.corrupted-justice.net/?archive=29

I dont care what libel you post against me, the issues still remains--
Back in 2002 and 2003 perverted-justice.com USED ACTUAL MINORS to go into chat rooms to have cyber sex chats with adult males and in at least one case to watch an adult male masturbate so they could post it on the perverted-justice.com website. That is, by law, child exploitation.

Further, the issue of law breaking at perverted-justice.com such as phone harassment of those who speak out against them, and hmmm.. cyberstalking.. Let's see what Florida states is cyberstalking:
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Florida

H479 passed; approved by Governor Jeb Bush on 5/21/03; effective 10/01/2003
Relating to the offense of stalking

Offense of Stalking; defines term "cyberstalk" to mean communication by means of electronic mail or electronic communication which causes substantial emotional distress & does not serve legitimate purpose; includes within offenses of stalking & aggravated stalking willful, malicious, & repeated cyberstalking of another person; provides penalties, etc. Amends 784.048; reenacts 775.084(1)(d), 790.065(2)(c), 921.0022(3)(f),(g), 960.001(1)(b).
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and go here:
 http://www.haltabuse.org/resources/laws/federal.shtml
To see exactly what cyberstalking laws apply for your state.

Yes, what they are doing by libeling me, and engaging in character assasination, does not matter.

The issue still is, and will continue to be, that perverted-justice.com engages in illegal activities (stalking/cyberstalking, harassment, threats, intimidation) and has engaged in serious crimes such as the exploitation of minors in order to boost their attention.

So, libel me all you want to-- the issue still remains-- perverted-justice.com is dangerous and sweeps their own truths under the carpet.

Hold those who claim to be protecting YOUR children accountable for their own misdeeds.

Perverted-justice.com did not exist until late 2003.
You can read all about the "minors at PJ" lie right here:
 http://www.corrupted-justice.net/?archive=27

Nice try, matty.

So are you denying those photographs are you? Obviously, proof says otherwise.
Also, Sir, from a legal standpoint, it's not libel when we are using YOUR OWN WORDS.
Explain yourself, pederast.

What proof do you have that PJ used minors?

Can you document this in any substancial way?

My goodness realactivist/extraccount/Matty -out trolling again... every where there is an article about Perverted-Justice.com your right there spewing your crap and doing your best in hiding the facts that Perverted-Justice.com is helping LE to get Real-Convictions!

And you're also trying your very best to side-step and hide from your very own words, words that you had hand written yourself years ago on the news-groups, and they then were archived (even though many times you asked the people you were sending the posts to, not to copy and repost them... but they did, didn't they...) and they are all out there for the world to find and read...

Yep, All your dirty little secrets that you thought were never going to be read except by those in the pedo-abuse-news-groups. Now, all people has to do is just do a little group-google search... They're your own typed words coming back to haunt you, you wrote them... and also, you wrote them way before there ever was a perverted-justice.com or a corrupted-justice.net Thank God I'd never heard of you back then, and now you are out trolling the net for anything written about perverted-justice.com - why is it you do that?

What you wrote about back then in those news-groups is what people at PeeJ are fighting against..

So don't try and convince people otherwise. And why don't you stop with the trolling the net and posting all your garbage trying to discredit a site that is working with the Police, a site that is responsible in helping LE in getting Convictions too... A site that is trying hard to stop Pedophiles and men that would say and do anything to have sex with children... Why is it again, you hate the site as much as you do?

So Matty - realactivist, lilboyblue, extraccount, or whatever online identity it is that you are using today, why not just stop the Perverted-justice.com article trolling, it's almost like you're a PeeJ stalker...


I'm very proud to be a member of Perverted-Justice and try and help in what little way that I can in what they're trying to do over there, making the web a safer place for children from those that will do them harm... ~granny

I'm reading what I found at Google groups when I entered lilboyblue damn it's even worse than what you see on the pervertedjustice bust chats. here's one-  link to groups-beta.google.com

and this is from the same person who is posting here complaining about pervertedjustice.com? he molested a baby?