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Voting for DRAFT in Senate and Congress SOON !!!

The bill is ominously titled the "Universal National Service Act of 2003." This means that the vote will ocure prior to the new year.

Indeed, it's true- the House and Senate will soon be voting on bills to re-institute the military draft, in the United States.

For your reference, the Bills are:

In the House: H.R. 163  http://www.congress.gov/cgi-bin/bdq...3:@@@L&summ2=m&

In the Senate: S.89  http://www.congress.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:SN00089:

The bill is ominously titled the "Universal National Service Act of 2003." This means that the vote will come within the next few weeks- prior to the new year. I have heard, through reliable news sources, that, while many pundits are poo-poohing the legislation, and the possibility of it's passage, the US government has ALREADY BEGUN HIRING PEOPLE TO STAFF THE DRAFT BOARDS.

Those in the higher levels of power seem to be pretty sure that the draft is coming back.

If that happens, our daughters as well as sons "between the ages of 18 and 26" will be "subject to induction." The "President" will "determine the number of persons" to be chosen for "the uniformed services" according to the military needs of the time. In light of the world's rising peacekeeping demands, those needs could grow fast.

So- I URGE everyone- WRITE TO YOUR MEMBER OF CONGRESS, and DEMAND that they not allow this insidious bill to become law- too much is at stake.


Link to full article below, as article was re-edited by Kim

Substantiation, please 19.Nov.2003 09:53

chicken little

These bills are almost a year old. Is there anything other than a forum on Russia's Pravda to substantiate a vote is due soon?

just an observation or two 19.Nov.2003 10:32

news junkie

I think the original poster has good reason to be concerned about this bill being brought before the end of the year. Even if a vote is not imminent the fact that bills have been introduced in both the house and the senate is cause for great concern.

After reading the text I noticed two things...

service is for 2 years for both men and women; and
there is no exception or deferment for college students

The biggest question all of us should be asking ourselves it: Why is this bill on the table now?

another thing 19.Nov.2003 10:40

news junkie

These bills are not so much bills that permit or prepare for a draft. They actually require two years of mandatory service to the US government for people between 18 and 26.

On the surface it is similar to the required military service in Israel but to me it is really more like Hitler Youth since there is no reason for conscription in the US and a case could be made that military service in Israel is needed.

DRAFT corrections and MORE 19.Nov.2003 11:04


CORRECTION: yes, you are correct, This bill is currently being reviewed by the Senate Armed Services Committee until January 2004 and is believed that it will be brought to a vote sometime soon thereafter.

AND the fact is that the bloody bills exist, and all sorts of stuff is being put into place to make them a reality, way before they ever go to congress.

actual bill included at end of this email.
$28 Million to get DRAFT READY BY JUNE 15, 2005!!

Edited on Sat Nov-15-03 02:03 PM by Dems Will Win
Oh, so there are "no plans" to re-instate the draft? No, there are just EXERCISES and $28 million extra to get the whole Selective Service ready and open for business by June 15, 2005!!

Read this official budget carefully and you will see that Bush is gearing up the draft--there is no longer any doubt about it. Selective Service must report to Bush on March 31, 2005, that the system is ready for activation within 75 days. So on June 15, 2005, expect the announcement that the first draft lottery since Vietnam will be held for 20 year-olds.

Here is where the DU rubber hits the road, my friends. This is a DU EXCLUSIVE as far as I know, so please read this one carefully and let me know what we are going to do about it. To put this all into context, the SSS has lain basically dormant for decades and now in the 2004 budget, Bush has added $28 million to get the whole thing ready to fly in 2005. The 4 performance goals below basically make the system ready for activation.



This FY 2004 APP identifies the activities and strategies that will take place during the
fiscal year to achieve Agency goals and objectives. It also identifies relevant performance
measurement target goals to be achieved. The performance goals for FY 2004 are:

1. Develop an Area Office Prototype Exercise that will test the Health
Care Personnel Delivery System (HCPDS) work flows and support

2. Redefine Agency infrastructure based on a Quinquennial Workload

3. Prepare and conduct an Area Office Prototype Exercise which tests
the activation process from SSS Lottery input to the issuance of the
first Armed Forces Examination Orders.

4. Ensure 90% of people tested are capable of implementing activation

5. Ensure that 95% of the predefined readiness objectives are attained
and validated during an Area Office Prototype Exercise.

6. Train 90% of assigned State Directors (SDs) and Reserve Force
Officers (RFOs) on HCPDS and Timed-Phased Response (TPR)
functions and responsibilities.

7. Attain a 92% or greater compliance rate for men 18 through 25 years

8. Attain and appoint Registrars in 85% of the Nation's high schools.

9. Obtain 75% of all registrations electronically.

10. Maintain an average systems change request implementation time of
39 days.

11. Maintain a functional proponent and customer satisfaction level of

12. Have a telephone call completion rate of 93% or higher.

13. Answer correspondence in less than 10 days.

14. Train 90% of assigned SDs and RFOs on Alternative Service plans
and procedures.


An annual report providing the results of the implementation of these performance
measures will be submitted by March 31, 2005. This report will address attained versus
planned levels of performance, explain unattained target levels, and identify where and
how strategies, performance goals, and performance indicators should be changed to
ensure that the SSS reaches its strategic and annual goals and objectives.



edited to correct 2003 to 2005.

link to article, with trail of investigative information:



"Few of us can easily surrender our belief that society must somehow make sense. The thought that the state has lost its mind is intolerable, and so the evidence has to be internally denied." - Arthur Miller
Please read this. It could be one of the most important essays you have ever read:
If you have a brother of age, a son, a husband, a daughter, a wife, a family member, person you love; If you give a damn about the military machine taking our children -- or if you DID or did NOT live through the Viet Nam War. Read it if your husband is a vet, your dad is a vet, your mom is a vet, you spouse is a vet, your family member, dear friend, loved one, child ... Do not think it can't happen here. It will it did and they are already making the plans for you.

primer on draft resistance
by David Wiggins

SEE LINK FOR FULL ARTICLE:  http://www.duckdaotsu.org/resist.html

this was proposed by anti-war Democrats in Protest 19.Nov.2003 12:56

for historical clarity

I am NOT cool with their strategy, but these were proposed by anti-war Democrats. The reason there is no college deferment was so the upper class couldn't hide their kids in school.

Maybe it's a good idea 18.Feb.2004 08:14

yeahright givemewind@excite.com

Germany has a service requirement for all young men. I think it's for ten months. But you didn't see them jumping on Bush's bandwagon. Maybe, just maybe, if the wannabe bluebloods in this country had something to lose in these imperial forays, i.e. a family a family member, we might see some different outcomes.

My son's over there right now. I'd be a lot more convinced of Bush's sincerity if his daughters were over there too. Waddya think?