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Shrub: Like father, not like son

In his memoirs, "A World Transformed," written five years ago, George
Bush, the elder, wrote the following to explain why he didn't go after
Saddam Hussein at the end of the Gulf War:
"Trying to eliminate Saddam...would have incurred incalculable human and political costs. Apprehending him was probably impossible.... We would have been forced to occupy Baghdad and, in effect, rule Iraq.... there was no viable 'exit strategy' we could see, violating another of our principles. Furthermore, we had been consciously trying to set a pattern for handling aggression in the post-Cold War world. Going in and occupying Iraq, thus unilaterally exceeding the United Nations' mandate, would have destroyed the precedent of international response to aggression that we hoped to establish. Had we gone the invasion route, the United States could conceivably still be an occupying power in a bitterly hostile land."

Unbelievable! 14.Nov.2003 17:39

AgentOrange

What an imbecile we have ruling this land :?{

Edited and Out of Context 14.Nov.2003 17:54

skate

While close, this is slightly inaccurate and hence misleading. The actual verbiage in George senior's book paints a slightly different picture.

Check ...  http://www.snopes.com/politics/quotes/gulfwar.asp

Where is daddy now? 14.Nov.2003 18:58

sceptical

Are we to believe that QWB's father has nothing to do with the occupation of Iraq now? What are we to make of the fact he surrounded himself with daddy's old buddies (Rumsfeld, Cheney....gang)? THere is a reason for papa's being hidden.

Sorry I don't have the links, but 14.Nov.2003 19:57

anonymous

Sorry I don't have any links, but I have read numerous articles implying that Bush Sr. was against this Iraq war all along, and alarmed at the direction his son was taking. Brent Scowcroft is a closer crony of Bush Sr. than Rumsfeld or Cheney. Scowcroft wrote an article in the NYTimes I believe arguing against going to war with Iraq when Bush Jr. was busy warmongering. That was taken by analysts to be an indication of Bush Sr.'s disapproval. The speculation was that Bush Sr. could not come out and contradict his son directly, therefore his friend did it for him.

anonymous is right 14.Nov.2003 20:50

PHH

Daddy Bush was against the war and I can remember reading in a number of places where he advised Junior against it. It's hard to say who exactly is to blame, but I would bet you this: If Junior did not want the war it would have never happened.

PAPPY BUSH IS INVOLVED, wire transfers of Carlyle Corp to Blair: smoking gun 14.Nov.2003 21:30

me

This is nonsese to separate GHWB from GWB, when his father sponsored his whole career and still does. If you want to know to what extent Pappy Bush IS DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE for the Iraq War I suggest reading Skolnick's report on the Overthrow of the American Republic concerning the wire transfers of billions of dollars (illegally ) through Carlyle Corporation to Tony Blair to get him to back the war that he wanted.

"THE OVERTHROW OF THE AMERICAN REPUBLIC",
Part 28
by Sherman H. Skolnick 3/21/03


The Bush/Blair Bribery Affair

What turned out to be a messy situation, all started, at least in part, to unravel on January 16, 2003. Two events were on that day, one later widely reported, the other seldom mentioned. The space shuttle "Columbia" took off on that day, later crashing, February 1, 2003. It is dealt with elsewhere in this series. On the same day in January, what some prefer to call jointly the American CIA/Bush Crime Family, conducted a "black bag" job. They did a break-in and entry into the residence of Alan Greenspan, Commissar of the Federal Reserve, America's highly secretive PRIVATE central bank.

What all were they looking for? Among other things, they sought to retrieve, and keep from ever surfacing, a series of Federal Reserve wire transfer records, showing certain transactions done under the secret authorization code of Greenspan.

The dealings were several months previous. They show that George Herbert Walker Bush used the Carlyle Group to forward some sixteen Billion Dollars to British Prime Minister Tony Blair. Daddy Bush has been a senior paid consultant with Carlyle to, among others, the Bin Laden Group, the Saudi Family dominating several industries in Saudi and the Middle East, including construction. They are NOT actually on the outs with family member Osama, who they finance, also with members of the Saudi Royal Family, through a major bank in Saudi, and banks and financial entities worldwide, including the Dutch money laundry, Algemene Bank Nederland, now ABN-AMRO.

Here is the circuitous route the funds took

[1] The existence of the transactions, by themselves, sufficiently prove the prior planning jointly of White House occupant and resident George W. Bush financially bending Tony Blair. The upshot of it all, was to have Blair join with Dubya (said quickly Texas style) to seize eventually the Iraqi oilfields, for two purposes.

First, to use the oil treasure as collateral to underwrite the huge U.S. deficit, soon to be out-of-control. Thus laying the way for Dubya to push a huge tax cut for the one or two percent of Americans, the wealthiest in the U.S.

Second, to seek to prop up the Bank of England caught up on the wrong side of speculations in the Kuwaiti Dinar, a currency pegged to the so-called "U.S. Dollar", actually hot-air Federal Reserve Notes. And further, to seek to bail out the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, the Chicago Board Options Exchange, and LIFFE, the International Financial Futures and Options Exchange in London.

To understand the route of the bribe to Blair and the route, some background is necessary. [2] Starting in the late 1980s and up to 1991, the highly mysterious espionage money laundry, BCCI, Bank of Credit and Commerce International, was later implicated in a scheme to bribe more than 25 per cent of both houses of Congress. More than 28 U.S. Senators and more than 108 Congressmen.

The purpose of the scheme was to corruptly influence, by bribes or phantom transactions used as blackmail, to members of Congress who were chosen to help promote the interests of BCCI in opening numerous branches in the U.S. The lawmakers were invited to give speeches in Chicago, seldom reported in the press. While in the Windy City, they were paid their "honorarium" (lecture fees) and told they were getting as a bonus, an account with the exchanges there, the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, the Chicago Board of Trade, and the Chicago Board Options Exchange. Later, some congressmen were told their Chicago accounts had a loss, but through straddles (a technical device using losses on one side of the fence, and gains on the other), they had a huge gain in London. Some Congressmen directly or through trusted aides picked up the "bonus" in London while secretly videotaped. Other Congressmen did not do so, but through phantom records, were shown, nevertheless to have "picked up" the pay-offs, in other words, blackmail. LIFFE was instrumental in all this. Why? Because they operate electronically only, and retain no paper records. Hence, the difficulty for regulatory authorities and tax collectors to sniff out. Upon the apparent downfall of BCCI in 1991 (they continue under the name of a alter ego and successor), the Bank of England, supervising the smash up, for thirty days ONLY had the bribery list of Congress as a public record. As we told in a prior website story, a major news group refused to make public the story, and so it ended up with us. My exclusive details appeared in October, 1991, in the populist publication Spotlight, years later made defunct through a dirty court trick.

[3] Instrumental in the Bush/Blair Affair was Carlyle Group, having on its Board of Directors a previous Prime Minister of the United Kingdom. The funds for Blair went through the Chicago markets which have been heavily on the wrong side of Kuwaiti Dinar gambling, called derivatives, a sort of book-keeping hocus-pocus. They, together with the Bank of England, are leaning over the edge of the cliff in TRILLIONS of Dollars, enough to panic currency markets if completely divulged. Why was the Kuwaiti Dinar selected as part of the route to Blair? Because the currency, pegged to the Dollar, is considered more independent. In technical data, that means it has almost no limit features up or down, the "sky is the limit" betting.

The 16 Billion Dollars, in Kuwaiti Dinars, was to benefit Tony Blair through, among other places, accounts for him, in financial entities in the United Arab Emirates, a favorite money laundry site.

[4] What happened with the incriminating records in Greenspan's residence on January 16, 2003? Well, the "black bag" team did not get them. Why? His wife, Andrea Mitchell, senior Washington correspondent for NBC, had previous to that date moved the records to another location. The records are now in the possession of certain more independent-minded U.S. free lance journalists. A preliminary story about this, with just a few details, appeared exclusively in Canada, on a popular website linked to a Toronto radio program, Mojo Radio, "The Cloak and Dagger" Program, described as a "Talk Show for Spies". A few hours after they posted the preliminary details, their website was smashed by the "shadow government".

www.cloakanddagger.ca (ca stands for a website in Canada). In a conference call, a leading website technician stated to us he had a terrible time getting their website back operating, and that he does not know of another event as troubling as the wreckage of the Cloak and Dagger website, where show host Lenny Bloom posts items on their news forum together with advance listings of upcoming guests. I participated in putting the preliminary story together for Cloak and Dagger.


[5] The Russians with the help of Commissar Putin, formerly of the Soviet Secret Police, the KGB, have details of a phone conversation recently between Bush and Blair, about the preliminary story. Blair told Bush, "You have to take down those websites who have the documents". Bush responded, "We have a constitution", a statement that Bush could make without really believing the same. "Never mind all that, take down those websites! If they post the first of the fourteen wire transfer records, you may not find me still on Downing Street anymore."

The inside joke is that an Israeli firm, reportedly fronting for Israeli intelligence and somehow beholden to Moscow, got the U.S. contract to rewire the communications system of the White House, the FBI, and the American CIA. The firm apparently, through satellites, is able to clandestinely send, in real-time, the content of supposedly secure, secret communications of U.S. top officials.

[6] And what is the possible fall-out from the full disclosure of the Bush to Blair bribery? The possible wreckage of the Chicago markets together with LIFFE, for openers. And a successful attack on the British Pound Sterling because of disclosures that the Bank of England, having gambled away their assets on Kuwaiti Dinar Derivatives, along with those exchanges, is insolvent and cannot any longer support the Pound in world currency markets.

Further, Blair would be open to criminal bribery prosecution together with charges against Daddy Bush and Dubya, of treason, international bribery, racketeering, and sundry other federal criminal offenses.

Please note that starting three years ago, on our website, www.skolnicksreport.com, we posted a series "Greenspan Aids and Bribes Bush". Shown there are the 25 worldwide secret money laundry accounts of the Bush Crime Family, the proceeds of hundreds of billions of extortion loot, joint business deals with Saddam Hussein in the 1980s. Also, shown is the Bush Crime Family JOINT ACCOUNT with the Queen of England, at her PRIVATE bank, Coutts Bank London. In December 19, 2001, the London Financial Times reported that the Queen of England sent her top bank executive, Andrew Fisher, to be a top official of Carlyle Group. Bush/British Monarch account shows a transaction of ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS. The secret Federal Reserve wire transfer records, showing the secret authorization code of Alan Greenspan, are part of our website series.

So, will the latest secret Federal Reserve wire transfer records be posted? Wait and see.

[7] Furthermore, the Bush/Blair documents show that Tony Blair privately greatly profited from arranging shipments to North Korea to enhance their nuclear capability. In that regard, he privately benefited, as we mentioned in a previous part of this series, like Hillary Rodham Clinton, likewise implicated in privately profiting from shipments of nuclear items to North Korea. As to both Blair and Hillary, the shipments were reportedly made through Royal Jordanian Airlines. [As to Hillary and North Korea, we showed that document about a year ago on our Chicago public access Cable TV Program, "Broadsides"].

So, will the latest documents be posted? More coming. Stay tuned.






In the 1980s, Daddy Bush and Saddam Hussein were private business partners, sharing billions and billions of dollars from shaking down the weak, oil-soaked sheikdoms of the Gulf. The foreign bank records showing this became the subject of an p ublicized suit in the Federal Courts in Chicago. I was the only journalist attending the hearing and writing an exclusive story about it. [Visit our website story, "The Secrets of Timothy McVeigh".] This vast extortion horde became the secret subject of a U.S. Treasury Internal Affairs unit inquiry examining the 25 secret worldwide accounts of the Bush Crime Family, jointly held loot with Saddam Hussein. For example, the Bushies had a One Hundred Billion Dollar joint account with the Queen of England, at her private bank, Coutts Bank London.

These transactions were done with the aid of Federal Reserve Commissar Alan Greenspan, using his secret authorization code. The authenticated documents and the details are in our website series "Greenspan Aids and Bribes Bush".

Prior to the actual shooting "war" starting March 20, 2003, billions and billions of dollars of these Bush/Saddam extortion loot were transferred through the Royal Bank of Jordan in part to the Central Bank of Ira q. [The Kingdom of Jordan has been a recipient of huge funds for more than 40 years from the American CIA. The Royal Bank of Jordan is a form of reputed CIA proprietary. See our website story, "Overthrow", Kingdom of Jordan Link, part Part 25.]

 http://www.skolnicksreport.com/ootar33.html

Our website series, "Greenspan Aids and Bribes Bush", has attached documents showing the Bush Family, through their secret fronts, has a joint account with the Queen of England, through her private bank, Coutts Bank, London, where hundreds of billions of dollars from illicit trafficking are laundered.

 http://www.skolnicksreport.com


AND, THE QUEEN, CARLYLE, AND ENRON

George Bush the Younger is directly implicated in the dirty work of Enron. Their four thousand offshore "partnerships", kept off the books and more or less "secret", laundered the proceeds of illicit dealings---dope trafficking, gold smuggling, weapons shipments to "terrorists"----done by the Bush Crime Family. [For documented links to the Bush Family's 25 secret worldwide accounts, see our website series, "Greenspan Aids and Bribes Bush". Included there is the document, the Federal Reserve secret wire transfer, under the code of Fed Chief Greenspan, showing ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS laundered through the Bush Crime Family's joint account with the Queen of England at her private bank, Coutts Bank London. Recently, the Queen ordered a top official of her private bank to become an official of the Bush Family-linked Carlyle Group where Daddy Bush has been a paid consultant to the bin Laden Family, including Osama who is NOT on the outs with his family. "The Queen has a new bank manager, following the departure of Andrew Fisher, chief executive of Coutts, TO THE CARLYLE GROUP, the US private equity firm." Financial Times of London, December 19, 2001 (emphasis added.)




"THE OVERTHROW OF THE AMERICAN REPUBLIC",
Part 18
by Sherman H. Skolnick 10/8/02


SECRET TRANSCRIPTS EXPOSE BUSH

According to a major British newspaper, the Irish Republican Army, the IRA, has penetrated the American/British high government secrets.

In their internet website version, the London Telegraph, under a headline "Bush-Blair transcript 'seized by IRA spies' ", by Thomas Harding, Ireland correspondent, filed October 8, 2002, stated

"Secret documents obtained by an IRA spy network included transcripts of telephone conversations between Tony Blair and President Bush, security sources confirmed yesterday....The disclosure that terrorists gained access to confidential information is likely to provoke FURIOUS REACTION IN AMERICA. David Trimble, Northern Ireland's First Minister and leader of the Ulster Unionists, compared the republican espionage as '10 TIMES WORSE THAN WATERGATE', WHICH LED TO THE RESIGNATION OF PRESIDENT NIXON." (Emphasis added.)

The details between the lines and left out of the story, read like from an-edge-of-the-cliff spy novel. Various foreign journalists, working on the story, are aware their editors deleted revealing details reportedly contained in the secret transcripts and other documents purloined by the IRA.

Some background necessary to understand the nature of the happening..

The IRA are reportedly in a position, among other things, to blackmail certain concessions out of the London government, in respect to the long-standing Irish Catholic grievances against the British domination/occupation forces in Northern Ireland. The British contend, however, they need to be in Northern Ireland to prevent violence between the Unionists/Loyalists, that is the Orangemen the Irish Protestants, and the Irish Catholics.

Scholars of British/Irish history contend that the true rulers of Great Britain were the Royal House of Stuart, Catholics, of which Princess Diana was a direct descendent. The House of Windsor, the purported current monarchy, have been basically German and are perceived by some as usurpers and pretenders, not a genuine British monarchy. A profound understanding of this would help explain why some continue to firmly believe Diana was murdered by British Intelligence on orders of the House of Windsor.

On several of our television shows, we had experts who demonstrated documented studies showing the British Military, about 1840, conducted genocide against the Irish Catholics, falsely described by pro-British historians as merely "The Potato Famine". [On our website home page, click the red-marked portion for TV segments.] Such matters are rare, if ever, discussed on the American monopoly press which is heavily pro-British and anti-Irish.

The secret transcripts and other high-level documents grabbed by the IRA reportedly prove the following, according to those familiar with them

[1] In discussions with British Prime Minister Tony Blair, George W. Bush admits he is greatly troubled by suppressed documents of the American CIA proving there is no danger by Saddam Hussein and no basis for a pre-emptive military attack by the U.S. aided by the British on Iraq. Blair and Bush discuss the oil question. Namely, that in several years Saudi oil reserves will have passed their peak. On the other hand, Iraq has huge untapped oil reserves.

In the past, Texaco got a lot of their crude oil from Iraq. As a result of a bankruptcy situation caused by a monstrous court judgment against Texaco by Pennzoil, that Pennzoil has a great financial interest in Texaco. The Bush Family historically have been financially interwoven with the founders of Pennzoil. Texas state high court judges, beholden to the Bush Family, reportedly were corrupted to nail down the largest court judgment in U.S. history, eleven billion dollar verdict by Pennzoil against Texaco, causing Texaco to petition the bankruptcy court for protection. The U.S. Supreme Court, beholden to the Reagan/Bush Administration, refused to grant a remedy to Texaco.

[2] As apparently shown by the secret transcripts and other stolen documents, George W. Bush expressed his concern to Blair who agreed that Saddam Hussein, if left in power, and alive, is in a position to blackmail the Bush Family and the Queen of England.

In our website series, "Greenspan Aids and Bribes Bush", we attached documents of secret Federal Reserve wire transfer records, showing the Bush Family, through their investment front Martwell, have a joint account with the Queen of England at her private bank, Coutts Bank London. The documents show the secret authorization code of Alan Greenspan, Fed Chief. One of the documents, showing the secret password used, listed the ONE HUNDRED BILLION DOLLARS transaction, shared by the British Monarch and the Bush Family, stemming from a clandestine private partnership of Daddy Bush and Saddam Hussein. [Subject of an unpublicized federal court case. See our website story, "The Secrets of Timothy McVeigh".]

The Queen ordered a top official of her private bank to become an official of the Bush Crime Family-linked Carlyle Group where Daddy Bush has been a paid consultant to the bin Laden Family who are NOT on the outs with Osama bin Laden. "The Queen has a new bank manager, following the departure of Andrew Fisher, chief executive of Coutts, TO THE CARLYLE GROUP, the US private equity firm". Financial Times of London, December 19, 2001. (Emphasis added.)

The Bush/Blair discussions and related documents, referred to Daddy Bush, as former head of the American CIA, helping by arranging political murders, to put Saddam Hussein in as Iraqi strongman in the late 1970s.

Both George W. Bush and Tony Blair, according to the secret transcripts and related documents, are concerned that Saddam Hussein, as a living witness, can give personal direct testimony, as to the treason by Daddy Bush in setting Iraq against Iran, and Iran against Iraq, resulting in the huge bloodshed in the Iran-Iraq War, 1980-1988. Used against Iran by Iraq was poison gas from ingredients reportedly supplied by a unit of a French firm, American LaFarge, of which Daddy Bush was a substantial owner and Hillary Rodham Clinton was a Director. [Related document is on the website www.gulfwarvets.com] One of the purposes Daddy Bush fulfilled instigating the eight year conflict was to aid his pals, American/British financial interests, continue to control Persian Gulf Oil reserves and by bombings and fires, interfering with oil production in the gulf thus keeping up the price of oil.

[3] By their discussions, Bush/Blair show they understand that a full inquiry into the Iraq matter, will be detrimental, in that it would show that the Daddy Bush Administration, aided by the London government, supplied Saddam Hussein with chemical/biological weapons and elements toward a nuclear device, that were destroyed by the U.N. Inspection teams. [See documented study in the book "Spider's Web---The secret history of how the White House illegally armed Iraq", by Alan Friedman (journalist with the Financial Times of London), Bantam Books, 1993.]

Note Daddy Bush, because of the aborted assassination attempt on President Ronald Reagan, 1981; that Daddy Bush was actually acting as President for three terms, running the Presidency, 1981 to January 1993, in violation of the 22nd Amendment of the U.S. Constitution

[4] As shown by the secret transcripts and stolen records, George W. Bush shared with Tony Blair, Bush's complaint that the Israeli intelligence agency, The Mossad, was blackmailing Bush by letting it be known that The Mossad gave the White House, the American CIA, and the Justice Department specific advance warning that there would be the events of Black Tuesday, September 11, 2001. Blair tells Bush that Blair was likewise put in a position of prior knowledge but was forbidden to take action by certain business interests. Both Bush and Blair, according to the secret transcripts, cursed "The Jews" for interfering with the Bush/Blair agenda.

The secret transcripts and documents and the reference to the same in the London Telegraph opens up several strange turns in the situation. On the one hand, the London Telegraph has been known all the years as the Queen of England's newspaper. For a period of years their investigative reporter, Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, was stationed in the U.S. In his book he routinely refers to the newspaper as being tight with the Queen of England. "The Secret Life of Bill Clinton the unreported stories", Regnery Publishing, Inc., 1997.

British journalists familiar with the details of the secret transcripts and swiped documents show their editors/publishers have an excuse not to publish the details, whether in print, on the air, or on a website. It is called for short in British media slang, "D-Notice", a notice delivered to them from the London government having found out they are about to publish or go on the air with some highly troublesome details. The notice is a way of invoking the provisions of the British Official Secrets Act. Under that law, if the notice is violated or about to be violated, the London government can seize the printing machinery, electronic broadcasting or internet website facilities, offices, vehicles, and related items, to absolutely stop such stories from being made public.

Off the record, such journalists believe that on behalf of the Queen and her banking links to the Bush Family, that Prime Minister Tony Blair himself caused the leak of the story about IRA seizing the secret transcripts and documents of the Bush/Blair discussions, with the actual details not to be released. Blair is under extreme pressure from certain members of Parliament, labor union bosses, and business tycoons, demanding that he oppose the Bush plan to make a pre-emptive military attack on Iraq. A vote of no confidence in the British Parliament can cause a quick election and thus Blair moved out of Ten Downing Street shortly thereafter.

Blair also reportedly on behalf of the Queen and the London government, instigated the "D-Notice" to stop United Kingdom newspapers, radio, television, and websites, from circulating the actual details contained in the secret transcripts and documents of the Bush/Blair discussions. Also, the British Monarchy has been repeatedly threatened with financial cut-backs of the government subsidy to Buckingham Palace.

Although there is no Official Secrets Act in the U.S., the Bush White House nevertheless has threatened various reprisals against the monopoly press if they publish or otherwise circulate the details of the secret transcripts. Off the record American lap-dog reporters divide into two positions Some challenge the validity of the London Telegraph story about the IRA spy group having seized the secret transcripts and documents. Others more or less confirm they know the details but are not going to risk their jobs in an off year to even start working to add to the story

More coming.... Stay tuned..

Bison Boy 15.Nov.2003 16:45

Conspiracy

While I wouldn't be all that surprised to hear that the Bush administration bribed the Blair administration to support the war (or vice-versa), I'm having a little trouble swallowing one of the key "facts" alleged in the article by "me".

Alan Greenspan keeps the only copy of certain federal reserve wire transfer records in his *home*? This is not especially plausible. It is absurd from a security point of view, for *everyone* involved. It's the sort of thing you see in movies, not reality.

Not only that, it's hard to fathom why a massive secret bribe would be channeled through a single person; one with a history of independent thought and action in the face of presidential disapproval, one with vast credibility should he go public. It doesn't matter if you or I or other indymedia readers believe what Greenspan says, everyone else does. :) If he thought the economy would be served by going public about such a scheme he was involved in, he certainly would do so, president be damned, and come out of it a hero. If he went public, he wouldn't *need* records to crush Bush in the public eye. His word alone would be enough to launch a media shit-storm of epic scale and irresistable strength. He is The Man.

There are so many other, better routes for the administration to have made such a bribe as to make this story not credible in absence of hard evidence in my own hands.

Nice yarn, though. B+ for effort.

skepticism is fine, though at least cite facts 16.Nov.2003 16:12

me

[4] What happened with the incriminating records in Greenspan's residence on January 16, 2003? Well, the "black bag" team did not get them. Why? His wife, Andrea Mitchell, senior Washington correspondent for NBC, had previous to that date moved the records to another location. The records are now in the possession of certain more independent-minded U.S. free lance journalists. A preliminary story about this, with just a few details, appeared exclusively in Canada, on a popular website linked to a Toronto radio program, Mojo Radio, "The Cloak and Dagger" Program, described as a "Talk Show for Spies". A few hours after they posted the preliminary details, their website was smashed by the "shadow government".

www.cloakanddagger.ca (ca stands for a website in Canada). In a conference call, a leading website technician stated to us he had a terrible time getting their website back operating, and that he does not know of another event as troubling as the wreckage of the Cloak and Dagger website, where show host Lenny Bloom posts items on their news forum together with advance listings of upcoming guests. I participated in putting the preliminary story together for Cloak and Dagger.



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Plus, your idea that Greenspan would keep official duplicate copies of what were illegal transactions (??) is rather silly, if you think about it. However I am glad to note this oversight means you have yet to be poisoned to think like them, so cheers fellow comrade. ;-)

I do suggest to read all information about Greenspan at skolnick's website before being so judgemental and offhandish, which only makes you look like a troll.

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