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Powells Strike Question

What happened at the other stores? Hawthorne, Airport, Internet?
Can somebody post what happened at the other stores? Hawthorne, Airport, Internet?
outside stores... 13.Nov.2003 22:19

I.L.W.U. local 5 worker

i do know for sure that the beaverton store was 100%
the cookbook store was 100%
shipping department was 100%
trucking was 100%
computer support was 100%
the last count we had at the end of the strike for the burnside store was that out of 200+ employees, 6 crossed our picket line to scab.
i'm not sure what the numbers were for hawthorne...
anyone else know?

They didnt.... 13.Nov.2003 23:48

Scabs Rule!

....cross a "picket line" to be scabs, they went to work, to make money and be happy. This whole ILWU union is a joke...YOU ARE NOT DOCK WORKERS if you work at Powells!!!! Michael Powell is the best guy around!!! I think he needs to break the union!

riiiight 14.Nov.2003 00:26

real person

The unions are evil! We should go back to the way things were before unions!

hehe, sorry but you have your head up your ass.

the unions (and the left) won us the 40 hour week in 1886

it's about time, don't you think, to win the 30 hour week? Effective immediately, with no reduction in pay.

Big fat hint to thick-headed asshats: ease the pressure by giving in to the 30 hour week (make conditions somewhat more bearable) or face revolt

personally i'd bet on the latter

Overdue 14.Nov.2003 06:41

Sick Worker

YES it's fucking time for the 30 hour workweek. It's time for a lot more than that. 40 hours a week doing something you don't want to do, kept away from your family, obligated to pay someone else to raise your own children so you can keep grinding that wheel? Is this really what you want, scab? This is slavery. We are held in bondage to a system that gives us us very little in return except riot cops in the street to convince us of the errors of our ways if we try to fight it. And a little secret: Even THEY don't really like what they do.

Ask yourself why, out of a 7 day week, why do we spend 5 of those days working for the master, and only 2 with our own families? Why? Why do we keep getting up, day after day after day, earlier than we want to be getting up, doing worthless things just so someone else can make a buck off us?

No, scabs don't rule. Scabs are ruled by their masters, and they help the masters rule us all. Scabs sell themselves and all of us out every time they step across that line. Next time you enjoy the weekend, or go home at the end of an 8 hour shift, you can thank workers who refused to sell-out, not scabs. People actually died to bring us an 8 hour day rather than the 16 or 20 hour day. They had to die because someone like "scabs rule" sold them out. If everyone had stood in solidarity, if there had been no scabs, then it would have come much sooner, with far less bloodshed.

Learn from that. This time, we must stand together.

We'd all rather be able to do the things we want to do, be home with our families, experience what it's like to be humans rather than cogs in a big wheel. So why not stand together in solidarity and take these things back?!

For every person who crosses a picket line for the lame ass reason that, "I don't have it that good, why should you?" I'll show you one more co-opted dumbass who makes it easy for the masters to exploit us the way they do. Pull your head out and say, "If you get more, it raises the bar and I will also get more. If I stand with you when you demand fair wages and non-exploitive working hours, then I know you will stand with me when I also demand those things."

what an absolute pile of manure 14.Nov.2003 12:18

worker

Who on Earth do you think owes you a living? If you want to work 20 hours a week, you are free to do so. You will be paid for 20 hours, not 40 hours. In case you haven't noticed, it costs money to run a business. Ask anyone who owns one. They pay rent, expenses, salaries, workers comp, insurance. and all the rest, and what is left over is what they have to live on -- the evil "profit" that idiots like you seem to think is wrong. NO one owes you anything. If you want to work three days a week, then get a job that pays well enough for you to do so. AND STOP WHINING

easy answer 14.Nov.2003 12:39

answer guy

"Who on Earth do you think owes you a living?"

How about those who have gotten ridiculously wealthy from the efforts of their workers? In the last decade if worker pay increase had kept pace with CEO pay increases minimum wage would be over $25 an hour. That is the question for all of you: is it fair for people to be exploited by their bosses? Is it fair that CEO's should be receiving record bonuses and salaries during an economic downturn? Shouldn't we support the Income Equity Act and other efforts to provide incentive to the executives of a company to improve the pay and benefits of their workers? I would say yes. And if you disagree my first question to you would be where do you work and how much do you get paid?

This is getting ridiculous. 14.Nov.2003 15:11

Portland Visitor

First let me say that this is a lovely city and I'm happy to be visiting from NYC. I was just scanning the net from my hotel when I came across this site. I felt like responding to this post as I just had this arguement the other day with a co-worker.

For Sick worker

"We'd all rather be able to do the things we want to do, be home with our families, experience what it's like to be humans rather than cogs in a big wheel."

No kidding. Ever think of opening your own business? If you don't like working for the man, then BE THE MAN!

"Ask yourself why, out of a 7 day week, why do we spend 5 of those days working for the master, and only 2 with our own families? Why? Why do we keep getting up, day after day after day, earlier than we want to be getting up, doing worthless things just so someone else can make a buck off us?"

We do it to pay the bills, keep a roof over our heads and feed our families. And maybe, just maybe to shove a bit aside so our children can have a better chance than we did. And yes, to sometimes take the occasional vacation (by the way, had a great time in this city, you have a lot to be proud of)

What makes you think the world owes you anything except gravity and oxygen? I work as a medical staff coordinator and make about 70 K a year and it took me YEARS to get where I am today. No one gave me a break, No union ever stood up for me!

I worked for everything I have today. And yes, it involved sacrifice, dedication and no small amount of commitment. And now, thanks to good planning, I have a nice house, which I own outright and car (not an SUV), my son's college is paid for and I have a healthy retirement plan.

I'm all for a 30 hour week. If I could get everything done I need to in that time that is. Most of the time I still take work home on the weekends.

For answer guy

"Is it fair for people to be exploited by their bosses? Is it fair that CEO's should be receiving record bonuses and salaries during an economic downturn?"

No, but then again a good CEO will re-channel his/her profit back into the company in the form of capital expenditures. Also has it ever occurred to you that many CEO's and corporate senior officer have been with companies for years, working their way up the ladder to get where they are today?

95% can't be wrong... 14.Nov.2003 16:50

I.L.W.U. local 5 worker

hawthorne store was also 100%

essentially, 95% of powell's employees called out on a u.l.p. strike.

BE THE MAN... 14.Nov.2003 22:54

Feel the man... You are a Zen (Middle Class) Master

THE ZEN MIDDLE CLASS THINKING MASTER, PHILOSOPHY FOR YUPPIES. haha that should be my next book. fuck it' ill make a buck by sellin the idea to Howard Zinn- or will I?

Yeah, that should be taught to all the chilldren. If you cant beat the man BE THE MAN! Great! Way to take tips from Jerry Rubin. I too belive that we should all at some point in our life put aside all our petty grievences about salvery and genocide, and inequalety, i mean really who cares... doesent all that rebelious crap go away when we turn 20?
NYC DUDE SAYS:

"...We do it to pay the bills, keep a roof over our heads and feed our families. And maybe, just maybe to shove a bit aside so our children can have a better chance than we did."
What a wonderfull White-washed way of middle class thinking. yes. PAY THE BILLS, be a home owner, and feed the whole FAM-DAMN-ILY! whooopy~!
and... no dude, its called POWELLS! he dint have to work up much of a ladder did he?

FUCK the STRIKE!
KILL YOUR BOSS!

to "worker" and "portland visitor" and everyone like you 15.Nov.2003 08:49

REAL worker

Who owes the worker a living? Pull your head out of your co-opted yuppy ass. The worker EARNS a living. It's not necessary to work 40 hours a week to make a living. That's only necessary because pirhanas at the top of the chain want to make a (HUGE) living off our backs. There wouldn't be enough profit for their mcmansions in Lake Oswego and their vacations in the Greek isles and their shiny new disposable cars if we didn't work extra hard, extra long so they don't have to.

If you don't understand the economics of this, "worker," then you have a lot of self-education to accomplish. This isn't about beleagured bosses just trying to make ends meet while meeting all their financial obligations and taking the little chunk left over after all the workers have been fairly compensated. This is a whole system built of the exploitation of the worker to pay for the excesses of the capitalist. Go forth and learn.

Portland visitor, another hopelessly co-opted grunt, answers "sick worker" by saying:

>We do it to pay the bills, keep a roof over our heads and feed our families. And maybe, just maybe to shove a >bit aside so our children can have a better chance than we did. And yes, to sometimes take the occasional >vacation (by the way, had a great time in this city, you have a lot to be proud of)

You've illustrated the point. This system keeps us in bondage. In pre-industrialized cultures, people could/can keep a roof over their heads and feed their families for themselves. And they do it with far less labor than 40 hours a week. If you believe otherwise, you believe a myth that has been thoroughly discredited by anthropologists. The surplus labor we provide is what the capitalists feed on. The low wages that make this much work necessary? That's how they keep us coming back to punch the clock.

In addition, Portland visitor, you said, "No one gave me a break, No union ever stood up for me! I worked for everything I have today." Again, you are hopelessly ignorant of history. No one ever gave you a break? No union stood up for you? Bullshit. People died to bring you the convenience of the weekend. The 8 hour day. The minimum wage. Make more than the minimum wage? You can still thank those who fought to raise the bar. When the minimum wage goes up, everyone's wages go up. Alas, the giant profit margins of the exploitive capitalist class go down, and that's why they fight so hard to keep the bread off our tables. A win for any of us is a win for all of us. Every time a union succeeds in benefitting the worker, all workers gain a victory. And that even includes clueless stuffed shirts like yourself.

until the strick is over 15.Nov.2003 19:16

shop elsewhere

The workers at Mother Kali's Books in Eugene formed a union w/ the IWW this past spring. The Board of Directors of the non-profit did voluntarily recognize the staff . This 30 year old "feminist institution" needs your support!

Backing Powells workers! 29.Nov.2003 20:35

todd in tokyo

Just wanted to let you all know that, as a new-ish Powells internet customer, I've just sent an email to them telling them that I will not do business with Powells again until the strikers' demands are met. Hopefully, when they see that they are losing customers from Japan and other parts of the world, they'll start to think about what the strike is costing them.

The people on this thread that think that workers should only have the choice of accepting what the boss is offering, no matter how bad of a deal it is, or quitting, need to get slapped around by the Invisible Hand until some sense is knocked into them.

I hope the strike ends soon and successfully for the people who keep Powells going - the workers! It's not unreasonable to take action when your employer tries to take away twice as much money from your paycheques for the same health benefits you fought for. It's unreasonable to expect you to sit back and take it.

Organizing raises the bar. Support Powells workers 15.Dec.2003 19:00

Nancy

To the 'Portland Visitor" first:
Standards in the health care/hospital industry in NYC are high. Many workers have pensions, competitive wages, and training to move to higher paying positions. The reason they have all of those things is precisely because of unions. Health care workers won the right to have a union at all, because of the struggles of hospital workers in NYC through the 1950's and 1960's. It is overwhelmingly union.
People working the same job in parts of the country where health care workers are not unionized, often times lack medical benfits for their families ( prob. pay a hundreds a month to cover themselves), have no secure retirement, and make sometimes up to half what union and non-union workers make in NYC.
Why? If enough workers stand together and fight within an industry, region and corporation standards can be raised.
So, in short, though you say no 'union ever stood up for you' , you owe a lot to workers that have stood up and fought to form a union and raise standards. You should thank em.

second:
Yup, Powell's is an local store. That's great. That's exactly why Michael Powell should be paying out health benefits. The company can afford it. In the fight to take on corporate giants, we should be supporting the alternative. The alternative is NOT a wealthy boss living in portland, sending all his workers onto OHP on the rest of the state's dime.
That might as well be Walmart (except the big boss is here and not somewhere in the midwest)
We should be pushing to raise the standard here , not reproduce our own local version of Walmart. Powell's worker's can raise the standard for folks working in big chain bookstore that have no benefits. They need our help to do it. We should support em. We're all at risk of losing health care coverage, or of never winning it.