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A different "another world" is possible

The only other world possible today is a socialist world, in the original sense of the word of course, as a system of common ownership and democratic control of productive resources, not the travesties that passed for socialism in the 20th century.
A different "another world" is possible

Socialists have always known that another world is possible. The world doesn't have to be capitalist. If, on the other hand, capitalism remains, then a world other than we've got now - with global problems of inequality, wars and environmental destruction - is not possible. The only other world possible today is a socialist world, in the original sense of the word of course, as a system of common ownership and democratic control of productive resources, not the travesties that passed for socialism in the 20th century.


Many in the alternative-world movement are prepared to call themselves "anti-capitalists", but only a few are prepared to argue for a world society of common ownership and democratic control with production directly to meet human needs without passing through money and the market. Most are literally what they say they are - anti-capitalists, i.e. opposed to the actions of capitalist corporations, and the governments that protect them and promote their interests, rather than against capitalism as a total, global system.

They are engaged in a never-ending, uphill struggle to try to contain and restrain capitalist corporations and governments from pursuing profits without regard for the consequences. Some of their less radical colleagues - those running the Non-Governmental Organisations - have made a virtue of necessity and see this as their institutionalised role within capitalism, warning those responsible for running it of the long-term dangers for the system of allowing policies to be dictated by short-term profit considerations. They are not really anti-capitalist at all, just advocates of a "regulated" capitalism. It's a message capitalist governments are prepared to listen to and even welcome (which is why they subside some NGOs, which are therefore not as "non-governmental" as all that). The administrators of capitalism are not as stupid as some of its "free-market" ideologues.

These are the same people who see the solution to the world's problems as "fair trade" and who danced in the hall at the failure of the recent WTO talks in Cancun. If further proof was required that they stand for an "alternative capitalism" rather than an "alternative to capitalism" this is it. Trade - as the exchange of goods for money (an exchange of ownership title as opposed to the physical transfer of products from one part of the world to another that will of course continue in socialism) - is a key feature of capitalism which is in fact a system of universal buying and selling, i.e. trading, on a world scale. "Fair" trade is a capitalist concept according to which producers, or rather producer-countries, would get the full value of what they sell instead of less than this due to more powerful countries distorting the market in their own favour.

Disputes such as took place in Cancun are essentially an argument amongst capitalist countries, with the less powerful trying to regulate the world market so that it does operate to the undue - in capitalist terms - benefit of the big boys. In this internal squabble amongst capitalist states, the NGOs take the side of the underdogs and offer this as "another world".

The unequal distribution of the benefits of production is indeed, to continue with their language for a moment, "unfair" and "unjust". In a sense, socialists start from the same premise as them that every human being, just because they are human beings, should be able to enjoy a life free from material deprivation and insecurity no matter where they live in the world. But we don't agree that this can be achieved by a regulated capitalism which would put all capitalist states on an equal footing so far as realising the surplus value created by their workers is concerned. This might benefit - enrich - the capitalists of India, Brazil, China and Indonesia and put more money into the pockets of the rulers of African states, but it would not eliminate inequality between humans in the distribution of material goods.

Even in countries such as the United States and those of Western Europe which benefit from current world trading arrangements, there is still inequality: there is still a wealthy property-owning class whose income as rent, interest and profit gives them a privileged consumption and the rest of us, while nowhere near as worse off as those in the shanty towns and villages of Africa, India and Latin America, still suffer from problems of material insecurity. In any event, the division in the world is not between all the people living in North America and Western Europe and those living in the rest of the world. There are plenty of rich people - some of them filthy rich - living in the so-called Third World.

The only way to ensure that every single human being on the planet has an equal chance to enjoy a life free from material deprivation is a world where all the resources of the planet have become the common heritage of all humanity. On this basis, these can be used to provide enough for all, without conflict (between ruling classes) over access to key raw materials and without plundering the Earth's resources or polluting the biosphere. We are not claiming that this would be an easy task - there will be problems of co-ordination and co-operation to solve, not to speak of having to clear up the mess left by the profit system - but it is technologically possible as well as socially desirable.

Yes, another world is possible but it has to be a non-capitalist - a socialist - world.

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Peter 01.Nov.2003 19:02

Human Nature Disagrees

The whole problem with socialism is that human nature, going back through thousands of years of human history, disagrees with socailim. It simply does not, nor will it ever work in a world with populations in the billions and growing every day. Human nature drives man to always want something more than he has. The majority of people want what one's neighbor has and oneself does not. Capitalism is a system that allows this. If I want something, lets say a new widget. I have to work to earn the widget. I do not deserve the widget, for the mere fact that I was born and breath air I must work for it. Once I have the widget it is my property and no one elses. I earned it. I challenge anyone to name a modern society with a large population base in which socialism has ever worked. Socialism removes the drive to better one's self above ones neighbor. If I work very hard, and my neighbor does nothing, yet in the end we both recieve the same amount of material compensation, what is the drive for a society to better itself. Socialism as attempted in Russia, China and elsewhere drives down the masses as a whole into a false sence of equality, while one or two men with the political and socio-economic drive wind up with all the power while the average person remains powerless to stop it.

Socialism while beautiful in a utopian society, simply cannot work while every man earth has a distint nature, freedom of thought and will. In order for socialism to work no man can have a free will to do as he chooses, his will must only be used for the betterment of society, not that of bettering himself. This can never be achieved without the use of an authoritave central goverment and brutal repression of an individuals freedoms, which is how socialist ideas evolved into the authoritave dictatorships we now observe. Democracy cannot co-exist with socialism. In democracy serveral men must be chosen by vote to provide leadership and authority over society as a whole. How can a socialistic society allow the power of governing a populace be in the hands of a few indivudals, who by definition of their positions are now above the simple masses. These elected people no longer are equal to the rest of society, instead they now have power over society. Socialism states that all should be equal, so how can we elect people to positions of power as in a democracy and retain the "equality" of a socilistic state. With populations of anymore than a a few hundred individuals this is not possible. Thus capitalism is the only true way to achieve the highest standard of living for the largest percentage of people in a large population of individuals with the ability and right to excersice their free will anc conscience. History and current world conditions attest to this.

Cheers,

Peter

Disagrees with "Human Nature Disagrees" 01.Nov.2003 19:55

World Socialists wsppdx@yahoo.com

Is socialism against human nature?

How often do we hear it said "It's only human nature?" And mostly about an anti-social piece of behaviour, as if it couldn't be avoided? Curiously, it is not often said about the best things that people can do. On hearing that someone has risked their life to save another, for some reason we are not inclined to say "Yes, it's human nature."

Mostly, the idea of "human nature " is a reflection of a divisive society that is incapable of creating a decent life for all its members. This failure is then rationalised as a pessimistic view that all people (mainly other people) are inherently selfish, greedy, and lazy. This view has been used as an objection to socialism, in which all the bad examples of human behaviour under capitalism are called upon to say that a society based on equality and voluntary co-operation is impossible.
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Not genetically programmed

This prejudice is also reinforced by arguments which assert that our behaviour and our relationships result from the way we are biologically or genetically programmed. These focus on competition, leadership, possessiveness, aggression, social and sexual inequality and an alleged drive to be territorial but, again, all these are behaviour patterns that reflect capitalism.

The arrival of capitalism is a relatively recent phenomenon within human history, ninety per cent of which has been spent living as hunter gatherers, in small tribes moving from place to place. This ended with the rise of settled agriculture about ten thousand years ago and a variety of different forms of social organisation have followed across different parts of the world. If our social arrangements were determined by our biology then this diversity of human behaviour, relationships and culture would never have arisen.

The real scientific evidence shows humans are able to adapt to cope with the challenges presented by the natural and social environments within which they have had to live. Evidence from the now completed human genome project supports the view of the adaptability of human beings. Dr Craig Venter, President and chief scientific officer of Celera Geonomics (the private firm that wants to patent genes for profit and thus not someone to be suspected of anti-capitalist or pro-socialist leanings) declared in the official press release issued by the journal Science which published his firms results in its 16 February issue:

"There are many surprises from this first look at our genetic code that have important implications for humanity. Since the June 26, 2000 announcement our understanding of the human genome has changed in the most fundamental ways. The small number of genes - 30,000 instead of 140,000 - supported the notion that we are not hard-wired . We now know that the notion that one gene leads to one protein and perhaps one disease is false. One gene leads to many different products and those products-proteins- can change dramatically after they are produced. We know that regions of the genome that are not genes may be the key to the complexity we see in humans. We now know the environment acting on these biological steps may be key in makin us what we are. Likewise the remarkably small number of genetic variations that occur in genes again suggest a significant role for environmental influences in developing each of our uniqueness."
Toolmaking, language and thought

While human beings' genetic nature leaves much scope for variation in behaviour, there are certain features that we all share and distinguish us from other species. These include the ability to walk upright, binocular colour vision, hands with opposable thumbs, organs capable of speech, and the ability to think conceptually. These physical features have led to the versatility of the human species as embodied in their labour as well as social behaviour such as the accumulation of shared experience that can be passed down through the generations. The development of tools, from the flint-working technique during the paleolithic period to the computers and space vehicles of today is central to understanding human history.

It may have been that this toolmaking tradition played a key part in the development of human consciousness. The tools made by early human kind objectified the existence of the tool makers and in contemplating this they become conscious of their own existence. This reflection of their own lives in their own creations may have led to a heightened self awareness and an ability to think in an expanded timeframe of past, present and future. Language could then develop from basic references to material objects to higher levels of abstract thought which expressed a developing, more complex vision of their world. It was possibly then that humanity created ideas and culture, becoming less instinctive and more decision-making. Through this dynamic interaction between human characteristics and the environment which was essentially the labour process, humankind not only altered their conditions of life, they changed themselves. What this required was not an invariable set of behaviour patterns programmed by genetic coding but adaptability.
Predisposed for co-operation

But none of this would have been possible without co-operation. Whilst we may not say that co-operation is programmed through our genes, it is certainly predisposed by our physical make-up. The view that co-operation was essential to the survival and development of human society has recently been supported by the work of the anthropologist Andrew Whiten. He argues that egalitarianism, sharing and lack of domination were the most prominent features in hunter-gatherer societies. (For more about the work of Andrew Whiten see Hunting, Gathering and Co-operating)

By co-operating with others through a division of labour we greatly increase what can be produced for our mutual benefit. Besides these material benefits, co-operation enables us to develop as individuals. Our individuality grows and finds its expression in relation to others and this would be impossible in social isolation. In this process of individual growth we draw not only on personal relationships, we draw on society in general and even on the lives of those who lived in the past.

Co-operation is sometimes said to be impossible because there is an inherent conflict between self-interest and the interests of others. In fact, the reverse is true. The interests of the individual are best realised when people are working together.


Found good article on web 01.Nov.2003 21:33

Peter

Socialism vs. Capitalism: Which is the Moral System?
On Principle, Vol. 1, No. 3
Autumn 1993

by: C. Bradley Thompson


Throughout history there have been two basic forms of social organization: collectivism and individualism. In the twentieth-century collectivism has taken many forms: socialism, fascism,
nazism, welfare-statism and communism are its more notable variations. The only social system commensurate with individualism is laissez-faire capitalism.

The extraordinary level of material prosperity achieved by the capitalist system over the course of the last two-hundred years is a matter of historical record. But very few people are willing to defend capitalism as morally uplifting.

It is fashionable among college professors, journalists, and politicians these days to sneer at the free-enterprise system. They tell us that capitalism is base, callous, exploitative, dehumanizing, alienating, and ultimately enslaving.

The intellectuals' mantra runs something like this: In theory socialism is the morally superior social system despite its dismal record of failure in the real world. Capitalism, by contrast, is a morally
bankrupt system despite the extraordinary prosperity it has created. In other words, capitalism at best, can only be defended on pragmatic grounds. We tolerate it because it works.

Under socialism a ruling class of intellectuals, bureaucrats and social planners decide what people want or what is good for society and then use the coercive power of the State to regulate, tax, and redistribute the wealth of those who work for a living. In other words, socialism is a form of legalized theft.

The morality of socialism can be summed-up in two words: envy and self-sacrifice. Envy is the desire to not only possess another's wealth but also the desire to see another's wealth lowered to the level of one's own. Socialism's teaching on self-sacrifice was nicely summarized by two of its greatest defenders, Hermann Goering and Bennito Mussolini. The highest principle of Nazism (National Socialism), said Goering, is: "Common good comes before private good." Fascism, said
Mussolini, is "a life in which the individual, through the sacrifice of his own private interestsŠrealizes that completely spiritual existence in which his value as a man lies."

Socialism is the social system which institutionalizes envy and self-sacrifice: It is the social system which uses compulsion and the organized violence of the State to expropriate wealth from the producer class for its redistribution to the parasitical class.

Despite the intellectuals' psychotic hatred of capitalism, it is the only moral and just social system.

Capitalism is the only moral system because it requires human beings to deal with one another as traders--that is, as free moral agents trading and selling goods and services on the basis of mutual consent.

Capitalism is the only just system because the sole criterion that determines the value of thing exchanged is the free, voluntary, universal judgement of the consumer. Coercion and fraud are anathema to the free-market system.

It is both moral and just because the degree to which man rises or falls in society is determined by the degree to which he uses his mind. Capitalism is the only social system that rewards merit, ability and achievement, regardless of one's birth or station in life.

Yes, there are winners and losers in capitalism. The winners are those who are honest, industrious, thoughtful, prudent, frugal, responsible, disciplined, and efficient. The losers are those who are shiftless, lazy, imprudent, extravagant, negligent, impractical, and inefficient. [What about the role of luck­being in the right place at the right time or the wrong place at the wrong time? R. R. Pope}

Capitalism is the only social system that rewards virtue and punishes vice. This applies to both the business executive and the carpenter, the lawyer and the factory worker.

But how does the entrepreneurial mind work? Have you ever wondered about the mental processes of the men and women who invented penicillin, the internal combustion engine, the airplane, the radio, the electric light, canned food, air conditioning, washing machines, dishwashers, computers, etc.?

What are the characteristics of the entrepreneur? The entrepreneur is that man or woman with unlimited drive, initiative, insight, energy, daring creativity, optimism and ingenuity. The entrepreneur is the man who sees in every field a potential garden, in every seed an apple. Wealth starts with ideas in people's heads.

The entrepreneur is therefore above all else a man of the mind. The entrepreneur is the man who is constantly thinking of new ways to improve the material or spiritual lives of the greatest number of people.

And what are the social and political conditions which encourage or inhibit the entrepreneurial mind? The free-enterprise system is not possible without the sanctity of private property, the freedom of contract, free trade and the rule of law.

But the one thing that the entrepreneur values over all others is freedom--the freedom to experiment, invent and produce. The one thing that the entrepreneur dreads is government intervention. Government taxation and regulation are the means by which social planners punish and restrict the man or woman of ideas.

Welfare, regulations, taxes, tariffs, minimum-wage laws are all immoral because they use the coercive power of the state to organize human choice and action; they're immoral because they inhibit or deny the freedom to choose how we live our lives; they're immoral because they deny our right to live as autonomous moral agents; and they're immoral because they deny our
essential humanity. If you think this is hyperbole, stop paying your taxes for a year or two and see what happens.

The requirements for success in a free society demand that ordinary citizens order their lives in accordance with certain virtues--namely, rationality, independence, industriousness, prudence,
frugality, etc. In a free capitalist society individuals must choose for themselves how they will order their lives and the values they will pursue. Under socialism, most of life's decisions
are made for you.

Both socialism and capitalism have incentive programs. Under socialism there are built-in incentives to shirk responsibility. There is no reason to work harder than anyone else becuase the rewards are shared and therefore minimal to the hard-working individual; indeed, the incentive is to work less than others because the immediate loss is shared and therefore minimal to the
slacker.

Under capitalism, the incentive is to work harder because each producer will receive the total value of his production--the rewards are not shared. Simply put: socialism rewards sloth and penalizes hard work while capitalism rewards hard work and penalizes sloth.

According to socialist doctrine, there is a limited amount of wealth in the world that must be divided equally between all citizens. One person's gain under such a system is another's loss.

According to the capitalist teaching, wealth has an unlimited growth potential and the fruits of one's labor should be retained in whole by the producer. But unlike socialism, one person's gain is everybody's gain in the capitalist system. Wealth is distributed unequally but the ship of wealth rises for everyone.

Sadly, America is no longer a capitalist nation. We live under what is more properly called a mixed economy--that is, an economic system that permits private property, but only at the discretion of government planners. A little bit of capitalism and a little bit of socialism.

When government redistributes wealth through taxation, when it attempts to control and regulate business production and trade, who are the winners and losers? Under this kind of economy the winners and losers are reversed: the winners are those who scream the loudest for a handout and the losers are those quiet citizens who work hard and pay their taxes.

As a consequence of our sixty-year experiment with a mixed economy and the welfare state, America has created two new classes of citizens. The first is a debased class of dependents whose means of survival is contingent upon the forced expropriation of wealth from working citizens by a professional class of government social planners. The forgotten man and woman in all of this is the quiet, hardworking, law-abiding, taxpaying citizen who minds his or her own business but is forced to work for the government and their serfs.

The return of capitalism will not happen until there is a moral revolution in this country. We must rediscover and then teach our young the virtues associated with being free and independent citizens. Then and only then, will there be social justice in America.

C. Bradley Thompson is Assistant Professor of Political Science at Ashland University and Coordinator of Publications and Special Programs at the John M. Ashbrook Center for Public
Affairs

An OK piece 01.Nov.2003 22:46

World Socialist Party- Portland wsppdx@yahoo.com

I think that that's a pretty accurate piece, given the provisos:

1) That what has passed for "socialism" and "communism" were always forms of state-capialism. This has been the World Socialist Movement's belief since 1904. We pointed these problems out in regards to the Leninist USSR, in 1917.

2) That we have held, since our inception in 1904, that socialism would entail a radical change in the social-relations. In plain english, that means that socialism will entail a change in work, etc. Building upon the work of William Morris, Paul Lefarge, etc, only the WSM has kept the origonal Marxist concepts of the abolishent of employment, doing away with commodity production, etc which are the basis of the soviet/fascist/corporate factory-soceities.

Please read up on what you are critiquing. But were always happy to debate.


the proof is plain for all to see. 02.Nov.2003 10:53

this thing here

name a purely and exclusively socialist utopia now in existence on the face of the earth.

name a purely and exclusively capitalist utopia now in existence on the face of the earth.

hmm, what's taking you so long?


frankly, i think that's trying to tell us something about workable economics and human nature...

False dilemma 02.Nov.2003 16:13

Bill

Capitalism is a way of organizing an economy.

Socialism is a way of organizing ownership.

A state, or a society, can be both capitalist and socialist.

((A state is a way of organizing power.))

Peter is full of shit 02.Nov.2003 16:32

Bill

Most humans naturally help those in their extended families, and those (even outside their species) who are helpless or hurt.

Between one and ten percent of humans (depending on who is counting) seek to take advantage of the hurt and the helpless.

The impulse to help is so strong that it extends even to dangerous enemies, once they are harmless, and especially if they are hurt.


The Bush Gang puts almost all of its efforts into persuading us that certain peoples are immediately dangerous and will attempt to repay our help with harm.


A liar honestly does not believe anyone can tell the truth.

A greed-driven wretch honestly does not believe anyone can help others. It scares the shit out of him. Charity makes him believe he is the victim of an elaborate plot beyond his comprehension.

He needs to trick us into believing we too are alone and scared.