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Chavez, just another corrupt dictator?

For all of the blind support that Chavez gets, this announcement is more than a little troubling and suspicious, given the recent events. For a country that is in dire economic situation, this rings phony...
Chavez hikes army pay

Chavez is counting on the military for support
Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has ordered a hefty pay rise for the armed forces in an apparent bid to shore up support for himself.
A former paratrooper, Chavez announced the hike at a time when his political opponents are campaigning for a referendum to vote him out of office.
"I have decided that from 1 January, 2004 onward, the salary of all professional members of the armed forces will be increased by 30%," the Venezuelan president said in a broadcast on state television on Sunday.
The pay hike decision assumes significance, particularly since Chavez survived a brief coup last year.

Loyal Troops
Some rebel generals and admirals had briefly toppled Chavez in April, 2002, before loyal troops reinstated him as the president.
The left-wing Chavez describes the military as a strategic pillar of Venezuela's "revolution."
"United, the soldiers and the people are invincible," he said.
Chavez also called on the military to be vigilant against attempted "subversion" by his political opponents.

man, you're getting news from Aljazeera? 13.Oct.2003 08:20


I wouldn't expect Aljazeera to look at Chavez any differently than the 700 Club. Naturally, Bible thumpers and Koran thumpers can agree on one thing; the current class structure benefits them by keeping the rich, rich and the poor, poor.

I'm no fan of Chavez, because he's just another statist, but I'll side with him against sky-god preachin' reactionaries any day of the week.

Chavez Rocks 13.Oct.2003 09:42

Blind Fool

It is peculiar how many radical activists do not support Chavez. He just gave 2.5 million acres to the landless, the poorest of the poor. More land for the people it was originally taken away from is planned. This guy is the real deal. He is doing the things the anti-authoritarians and anarchists dream about but never get anywhere close to doing.

The army is busy building bridges, and hospitals and schools. The people who the army has historically repressed are beginning to trust that a military civic relationship can be positive. Venezuela is perhaps the best example of an honest democracy in the world today, and may be one of the best hopes for humanity to oppose corporate domination.

Chavez is not a statist. He is a poor person of color who is in the position to help the poor, and is risking his own life to oppose the white grip on power (and thus the U.S.) in order to do so. He is actually building something good.

Chavez is smart 13.Oct.2003 13:10


If your country and your administration were being assailed by big business, oil interests, and the CIA, and if you had actually been temporarily deposed in a coup until members of your armed forces refused to cooperate with the new government, thus returning you to power, you would be a fool not to give a raise to your armed forces.

Regardless of whether it is necessarily the best decision economically speaking, this is a whole other playing field that Chavez is dealing with. He has learned from the mistakes of the past that have resulted in US-backed military coups in other Latin American countries, he is up against an utterly biased right-wing press that ensures that few people get a clear picture of what is really going on in his country, he's facing the opposition of business and oil interests that have the power to paralyze the economy if they want to. And he has an extensive plan for social and political change and empowerment in Venezuela.

Unfortunately, he is being forced to take steps to simply ensure the stability of his administration as it is attacked and blasphemed from all sides. He should be commended for his success in this area, for his struggle has not been an easy one.

Let's hope Venezuela does not join the list of other nations in Latin America where US-backed coups had tragic, horrific results that left thousands dead and whose repercussions continue to be felt today. El Salvador, Nicaragua, Chile, Guatemala, Argentina....

My heart bleeds for the children of Bolivar 13.Oct.2003 17:29

Jonathan simon_bolivar_el_liberator@yahoo.com

I do strongly suggest Chavez to read a book titled "Use your brain for a change", but I am not sure if he ever did finish his schooling and can actually read and fully comprehend at the same time. Remember that requires a multi-tasking capability for ones mind.

From what is coming out from Venezuela it is surly attempts of a desperate man who is not able in using diplomacy and intelligence to run a country's affairs internally or externally. What can I say? When you don't have intellect you better have a good grip of your whip to run a slave farm, and for that you need the military support ...

Go and read your history on all the dictators, and their styles. Nothing has been changed ever since and he is not an exception to it too.

My heart goes to Venezuela and the children of Simon Bolivar who were once liberated. I want to see a revolution there and soon.


When dictatorship is a fact, revolution becomes a right.
Victor Hugo

Not enough info 13.Oct.2003 23:29

en este pinche país

How many people who speak about Chavez have actually heard his words? How people have listened to the voices of his countrymen? Chavez is an anomoly in that he's the leader of a large democracy who is totally at odds with the goals of the nation's neo-liberal thinking elites. These same neoliberal ricos exist throughout Latin American and keep their money in U.S. banks and employ servants from the lower classes in their homes. He is still in danger from the same forces that tried to oust him in the first place because he won't be bought off as easy the neoliberal elites thought, and he refuses to tow their line. I wish I could say the same for Lula. But, like Venezuela, there's a virtual blackout of news from Brazil, and - cuantos falan portugues?

Jonathan, more substance please, less BS ad hominem 14.Oct.2003 01:28


Jonathan, please explain how Chavez is a "slave master."

Also, please explain precisely why Chavez is supposedly unintelligent and dictatorial. Evidence points to the contrary. I would like to know exactly what crimes Chavez has committed against Venezuelans, Jonathan.

Frankly, IndyMedia deserves much better trolls than you, Jonathan. You insult the IMC with your shoddy troll-work.

I totally agree with you Gringo 14.Oct.2003 10:38


Chavez is awesome!!! I can only dream of having that type of leader. Someone who is out for the working people and the poor. Jonathan, maybe you should pick up a book once in a while, or speak to a Venezuelan and see what they think of Chavez. The only people who don't like Chavez are the rich, which obviously is the tiny minority. My motto is any leader that the U.S. is against, I am for. Its always the brutal dictators that our fascist government supports. It always has been and always will be.

** Its so funny how you can spot out the ignorance and plain stupidity of these cointelpro--pig- trolls.

Love your reasoning !!! 14.Oct.2003 18:15

Jonathan simon_bolivar_el_liberator@yahoo.com

At least you are honest stating your wonderful way of reasoning. If you think about it that is very accommodating to the usage of your brain. Just see who America doesn't like and just admire and go for it. Your level of intellect is just something.

You are neither intelligent nor American, but honest. I respect that. Between me and you we make one nice American with two votes I say. That's cool...

Jonathan -

Lessons from China ... An article worth reading ( In Spanish) 15.Oct.2003 15:55

Jonathan simon_bolivar_el_liberator@yahoo.com

El domingo, en el Aló presidente, a Hugo Chávez notificó públicamente al Ministro de Educación Superior , Héctor Navarro, sobre una aparente "desviación revolucionaria" de un profesor de un Instituto Universitario situado en la Península de Paraguaná , quien habría cometido el delito de "lesa patria" por no mencionar a la República de Venezuela por su nombre entero, según la Constitución vigente, es decir: República Bolivariana de Venezuela. Y además, en esa misma intervención pública, le ordenó al ministro tomar medidas , que incluso podrían ser hasta militares, contra ese "vil traidor".

Este género de actuaciones nos trae a la mente la revolución cultural china. A tal efecto refresquemos algunas ideas de esa desventurada experiencia originada por el difunto Mao Ze Dong. La llamada gran revolución cultural proletaria fue la expresión de un ataque dirigido por Mao contra la jerarquía del partido comunista chino y contra las desviaciones que, según el pensamiento del líder carismático, estaban ocurriendo en China. El objetivo era iniciar un proceso mediante el cual se reformaría para siempre al hombre en China. Para lograrlo Mao consideró que era indispensable fomentar el culto a la personalidad. Única manera, de acabar con toda resistencia tanto en el partido como en la sociedad. En alguna medida, como bien lo señala Alain Peyrefitte en su extraordinario libro: "Cuando China despertará", el pensamiento de Mao se convirtió en una auténtica bomba atómica espiritual. Con todo lo que ello implicó en destrucción de vida, valores y conocimientos. Para lograr el objetivo de crear un hombre nuevo era indispensable proceder sistemáticamente a un lavado de cerebro de todos los habitantes de China, por las buenas o por las malas. Para así erradicar definitivamente todas las expresiones corrompidas del pensamiento histórico y substituirlo por las nuevas ideas basadas en la iluminación constante del Gran Timonel.

Mao utilizaba dos máximas como principio rector para estimular a sus fieles : " El poder político reside en la punta del cañón" y " sólo los fusiles nos permitirán reformar al mundo". Además como bien lo expresa en una de las citas del libro rojo: " Hacer la revolución no es ofrecer un banquete, ni escribir una obra, ni pintar un cuadro o hacer un bordado. No puede ser tan elegante, tan tranquila y delicada, tan apacible, amable, cortés, moderada y magnánima. Una revolución es una insurrección. Es un acto de violencia mediante el cual una clase derroca a otra." Para lograr ese objetivo, por lo tanto, hay que forzar constantemente al hombre a su reeducación, y eso se hace desde la cuna hasta la muerte. Constantemente se recuerda el principio de que para ser un buen ciudadano hay que ser primero un buen soldado de la revolución. Por eso, en ese trágico episodio de la historia de China, los hijos denunciaban a los padres cuando éstos consideraban que la actitud de ellos no era lo suficientemente " revolucionaria" y no se diga de los pobres maestros, sistemáticamente humillados por sus alumnos, quienes les recordaban que el único conocimiento relevante en la República Popular China eran las citas del Presidente Mao contenidas en el pequeño libro rojo.

Estamos convencidos que en Venezuela esto no ocurrirá. Sin embargo, no podemos dejar de sentir algún escalofrío, cuando el Presidente de la República acusa por televisión e imparte órdenes a sus subalternos para que el autor del presunto delito de omisión bolivariana, sea despedido, humillado y tal vez agredido. Lo más grave es, que al igual que en la revolución cultural, se utilice la denuncia de un apasionado estudiante "revolucionario" como prueba cierta de que se ha cometido un delito por el simple hecho de que el " buen revolucionario" se ha sentido ofendido por las palabras expresadas por un profesor con base al " hasta ahora " sagrado principio de la libertad de cátedra y de expresión. Malos tiempos nos augura la prédica y la práctica de la intolerancia.

source? 15.Oct.2003 17:41


Do you know of any other sources that reference this supposed call by Chavez to punish the university professor, other than this article? What was the exact statement? I can't find any
reference to this anywhere but this article.

thank Jonathan for the link 16.Oct.2003 00:58


I checked it out, it's an anti-Chavez joint, which most mass media (read upper class-owned) in Venezuela are today. The country is quite polarized. There is probably an important context missing if indeed Chavez pronounced such verbage. I'd like to hear the rest of the story of that Profe'.

No evidence of corruption or dictatorship 16.Oct.2003 13:19


I don't get it. Why is it corrupt or dictatorial to increase military pay? He's the democratically elected president of the state. He has survived at least two coup attempts. It is smart to try to enhance the loyalty of the military to the democratically elected civilian leadership of the country.

FOR CRIST SAKE 31.Oct.2004 22:00


All I have to mention is...

If chavez is so good so cool. The panacea among all things...

Why is he pushing people from the ones he likes???
Is not people decesion to vote freely for the ones they likes

Chavez is the richiest man in all venezuela even richer than cisneros, DOn`t tell me HE IS NOT...... HE PAID GUTIERREZ FOR HIS ELECTION A LOT OF MONEY see maracaivo and you will see the biggest pciture ever made in venezuela If you put in that way chavez has lot of money to spend...