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Diebold machines caught skimming votes in California

The California recall shows Diebold trying to affect the election outcome by moving votes from high ranked candidates to low ranked candidates.

Long-shot candidates do startlingly well in Tulare County


My friend in South Carolina writes:

I ran a number crunch of CA counties that use Diebold
machines to cast/count votes and found some weird
figures that show a skim of votes from top candidates
to people who were unlikely to affect the outcome. I
did my hand calculator work on the California election
results (from the secretary of state's site) when 96%
of precincts had reported. The website showed:

Counties using Diebold Touchscreens:
Alemeda, Plumas

Counties using Diebold Optiscan:
Fresno, Humboldt, Kern, Lassen, Marin, Placer, San
Joaquin, San Luis Obispo, Santa Barbara, Trinity,

There were a total of 1,403,375 votes cast in these
counties combined. The CA total was 7,842,630 at this
stage of the count. Thus 17.89% of all the state votes
were cast/counted on Diebold equipment.

I had earlier noticed some lower order candidates
(ones who couldn't affect the result) were getting
unusually large numbers of votes in Tulare county. I
decided to test to see if the these and other 'fringe'
candidates might be used to receive skimmed votes in
other Diebold counties.

I added all the votes cast/counted on Diebold
equipment for each candidate and expressed it as a
percentage of their total votes cast state wide. The
following table lists: Candidate name, votes counted
for them in Diebold counties, CA state total votes
counted for that candidate and what percentage of that
candidate's total votes were counted in Diebold

It looks like, as one might expect, at the top of the
list as if there is a slight variance from an even
state wide distribution. However many 'lower ticket'
candidates have vote totals that ONLY correlate with
the use of Diebold equipment! I have included some
names chosen at random from the result list that show
that not all lower order candidates were used to
receive skimmed votes. Note that Diebold's counties
are spread geographically over the whole of

I have checked background on the skewed result
candidates and they are not residents of the counties
where they got very high percentage results. In one
case, Palmieri, the candidate was surprised to hear
about Tulare county (I emailed him) and had not been
there nor had family or friends there. In fact, his
platform was "Don't vote for me." He described this
vote pattern as "strange."

State total 7,842,630.
Cast in Diebold counties 1,403,375
17.89% of the total votes cast.

Schwarzenegger 581,145 3,552,787 16.36%

Bustamante 447,008 2,379,740 18.78%

McLintock 186,923 979,234 19.08%

Camejo 39,199 207,270 18.9%

Huffington 7,498 42,131 17.79%

Ueberoth 3365 21378 15.74%

Flynt 2384 15010 15.88%

Coleman 1869 12443 15.02%

Simon 1351 7648 17.66%

Palmieri 2542 3717 68.3%

Louie 598 3198 18.7%

Kunzman 1957 2133 91.75%

Roscoe 325 1941 16.7%

Sprague 1026 1576 65.10%

Macaluso 592 1504 39.36%

Price 477 1011 47.18%

Quinn 220 433 50.8%

Martorana 165 420 39.28%

Gosse 60 419 14.3%

Based on the very unlikely distribution of votes for
some candidates (a meteor hit my car twice this week
sort of odds) a hand count of the affected counties to
compare with the machine reported count should be
done. This would show that the machines had been
tampered with to alter the results. As we already
know, it is not possible to audit touchscreen machines
because Diebold refuse to allow printing of a ballot
to be placed in a box as a back up for use in just
such an apparent tampering with votes.

For those who are unsure of figures:

California is huge and has a population similar to
many European nations. Lower order candidates had
little or no ability to spread any sort of message to
parts of the state beyond their own home and/or where
they have previously lived. One would expect some of
the 'fringe' candidates to do well in their home
county and then to have a very even distribution
across the rest of the state. That is not the case. In
Diebold counties (those who use machines made by
Diebold, a corporation that supports George Bush) the
results are skewed towards low scoring candidates by
unbelievably large amounts.

The probability of scoring twice the expected average
county % could charitably be construed as the upper
limit of the possible. Some candidates exceed that
figure in Diebold counties by a four or five fold
margin. If you have done statistics, you know that is
so far beyond what might be expected that you would
reject it as defective data. If it happened to one
candidate in this election, I would be surprised but
might accept it. There are a large number of
candidates who have this same systematic pattern of
receiving skimmed votes.

The California recall shows Diebold trying to affect
the election outcome by moving votes from high ranked
candidates to low ranked candidates.

By doing this, Diebold keep the total number of votes
cast constant but rob some candidate of their votes.
Before anyone makes this a partisan issue - it could
be a Republican victim next time.

homepage: homepage: http://www.markcrispinmiller.blogspot.com/2003_10_05_markcrispinmiller_archive.html#106566910423273462

since diebold is shutting down websites 11.Oct.2003 23:21


I thought it would be nice to provide some links to help people find information.

NOTE TO DIEBOLD: none of these links are to websites containing your precious memos that you don't want anyone to see. However, you should be very worried that many people, including myself, have downloaded those memos and are now sending them via email to everyone we know. Better safe than sorry if you know what I mean.


Very Good Work 12.Oct.2003 08:48


I have one other question.

Did Mr. Schwarzenegger do better in counties that used Diebold machines?

Did Cruz Bustamante do worse in counties that used Diebold machines?


The Black Box Voting Discussion Site on The CA Results 12.Oct.2003 12:48



This is worth taking a look at. There's a lot of info, but it gives an idea of the on the ground stuff - people's reports of walking in to a room where all the machines were and being unsupervised, being left alone with all sorts of paperwork, no one asking for ID from voters, being given wrong info, even poll workers posting info on here.

I stood outside a BART station of gave out fliers and people had NO CLUE of what is going on.

Response to "Me" 17.Oct.2003 19:12


It was actually the other way around. Schwarzenegger did worse in Diebold counties and Cruz did better.
This is from the report at the top:

1,403,375 17.89% of the total votes were cast in Diebold counties.

Schwarzenegger 581,145 3,552,787 16.36%
(worse than the average)

Bustamante 447,008 2,379,740 18.78%
(better than average)

But still, the numbers for those minor candidates are very sketchy and should be publicized/investigated. Something screwy is up with those machines...


Nope, it definitely is a partisan issue 21.Oct.2003 12:19


Mark said: "Before anyone makes this a partisan issue - it could be a Republican victim next time."

Nope. Not on a Diebold machine. The entire Diebold Board of Directors is staunchly Republican, and their CEO has done personal fundraising on behalf of Bush, Cheney, and other RNC candidates.