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Largest Arctic Ice Shelf Breaks Up, Scientists Say

A reuters story today reported on the bust up the Ellesmere Island ice sheet
According to a Reuters story, "The largest ice shelf in the Arctic, a solid feature for 3,000 years, has broken up." The Ward Hunt Ice Shelf broke into two pieces, and a local fresh water lake poured into the ocean after "all of the fresh water poured out of the 20 mile long Disraeli Fjord." Being scientists, they used careful language and introduced caveats : "Local warming of the climate is to blame, they said -- adding that they did not have the evidence needed to link the melting ice to the steady, planet-wide climate change known as global warming."

Recently someone posted an article under the title 'Baked Alaska' that described retreating ice in Northern Alaska. In this report the evidence was anecdotal (stories told by native residents of the area, tales of polar bear drownings when pack ice broke up and the bears could not reach shore, with other bears unable to get out onto the ice and instead spending their time rummaging through the town's garbage. Robins, using that uncanny sense they possess, have moved into Northern Alaska for the first time to nest, having somehow determined that it is safe to do so.)

According to the report over the last 100 years over 90 per cent of the Ellesmere ice cap has disappeared. A similar pattern of 'regional warming' is taking place in Antartica, and the warming in the North Atlantic is also responsible for the 'regional' pattern of increasing monsoons over the Sahara region since the late 90s (which in turn was responsible for pushing desert air into Europe this summer leading to the heat wave).

According to the article " Records indicate an increase of four-tenths of a degree centigrade every 10 years since 1967. The average July temperature has been 1.3 degrees Celsius or 34 degrees F -- just above the freezing point -- since 1967." Changes in climate also affect ocean currents and salinity and the warmer temperatures leave the weakened ice vulnerable to these forces.

Other reports have indicated that snow cover in general, as monitored by satellites, has decreased by 10 per cent since 1986. I would suppose that when you have regional climate change in the north, and then this extends south to reduce the area of snow cover in such places as the Northern United States, and then you have regional warming and break up in the ice of Antartica, and regional climate change in Northern Africa and Europe, the regional changes seem to be taking place globally.

I just mention this since scientists introduce caveats. They do this because it is science, and in science they would need to write a paper and provide charts and graphs and so on which can withstand scrutiny by their peers, and so they tend to be conservative. Many times they speak in terms of probability, and given the complexity of climate, they can also speak of uncertainties due to the effect of climate change. When the Bush administration ditched the Kyoto accord one of the reasons given is that scientists used the word 'uncertain' about a hundred times in the IPCC 2001 report. That 'regional warming' is taking place at both poles of the globe is not 'uncertain' and where the uncertainty lies in what the effects of our gamble with climate change will be. However the word 'uncertain' is misused to give people the impression that 'global warming' is 'uncertain' when actually only its potential effects are difficult to predict (making climate change a big gamble).

homepage: homepage: http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml;jsessionid=CCF1J2LOQP4X0CRBAEKSFFA?type=scienceNews&storyID=3488424

when Florida goes under 23.Sep.2003 08:58

Sheepdog

IIn the next 100 years, we will fondy remember such things as the everglades and Miami vice.

a certainty 23.Sep.2003 10:26

brent

a certainty just occured to me
don't buy any beach front property
and forget about buying that island for get aways

You know if you visit some of those really right wing sites they have a narrative about bush's rejectionof Kyoto
because the IPCC 2001 report was loaded with caveats concerning the potential effects of climate change
this left the door open to Bush to reject the report on the grounds that the word 'uncertain' was used over a hundred times

The right wing narrative I have found states that 'Given the uncertainty that global warming actually exists, the President wisely choose the prudent course of not demanding costly and expensive measures that when there was no evidence that they were required'

Now given that the report was not saying the global warming was 'uncertain', only that no one knows what the new climate of the world will be like (well, except for that bit about not owning property on a beach) the corrected narrative should read like this - 'Given that no one knows whether or not the United States might turn into a desert, or perhaps half desert and half swamp, due to the uncertainty as to the effects of climate change the President choose to take a potentially costly gamble and just see what happens later..."

have a nice day

large collection of articles 23.Sep.2003 10:37

brent

on the main indy media site you can read a large collection of articles which are compared side by side
what is interesting is how heavily edited some of the reports are...you will notice how the report quoted above debunks 'global warming' and then you can compare it to this version

Last year, the 3,250-square-km Larsen B Ice Shelf on the Antarctic Peninsula shattered over a period of a month into thousands of icebergs.

The peninsula is one of the three fastest-warming regions on Earth - temperatures have gone up 2.5 degrees in 50 years.

Global change

Mueller, Vincent, and Jeffries say their calculations suggest changes of a similar nature have been taking place in the Ellesmere Island area.

A century ago, the entire northern coast of the island was reported to be fringed with a continuous ice shelf. About 90% of that ice area had been lost by 1982, the scientists say.

The precise timing of the break-up of the remnant Ward Hunt Ice Shelf may have been influenced by freeze-thaw cycles, wind, and tides, they tell GRL.

Other factors may include changes in Arctic Ocean temperature, salinity, and flow patterns, they add.

"Computer models show quite convincingly that global climate change would be manifested first and amplified in the polar regions and in particular in the Arctic," Dr Jeffries said

"Our observations at Ward Hunt Ice Shelf fit in with a broader picture of Arctic change which fits in with our understanding of how the Arctic climate would respond to global change."

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Ecological Holocaust - Is Alaska Melting? 23.Sep.2003 13:08

Ed Hunt, editor of Tidepool.org

Published on Tuesday, June 12, 2001 in the Christian Science Monitor

We can deny that we've created global warming single-handedly. We can say this is a natural fluctuation in the earth's climate. We can follow the example of tobacco executives and Exxon Corporation and deny the obvious - deny what our own research tells us.

What we cannot deny is that we are in a period of significant climate change. We cannot deny that the damage is already being done. Three years ago, science writer William K. Stevens called what is happening in Alaska an "ecological holocaust" - a term both fitting and ironic, given that when the Holocaust of World War II was occurring, so many tried to look the other way.

As in the Second World War, the world's great nations are preparing - uniting - to fight a battle that the US has yet to join. Perhaps this nation will prove itself a leader in the end. I have little doubt we will soon join the fight. We can't deny it any longer. Something is happening.

It's About Time 23.Sep.2003 13:11

Exxon Guy

It's about gaddamn time. Do you people how expensive it is to build pipelines through the Arctic Tundra of the US, Russia and Canada? With the ice gone we can finally get our Supertankers through the Arctic Ocean and open a great Energy trading system between Russia and the America. The only problems I can see is a lack of hiding places for Nuclear Attack Subs when the ice melts.

Cheers.

I believe it's too late. 26.Sep.2003 19:59

Aaron bikephoto@aol.com

Many here have said that we must do something soon in order to do something about climate change. I believe that the damage has already been done, and continues to be done every day. I don't believe climate change is a theory, I believe that it is a reality. Climate records are being set all over the world. The most powerful hurricane, the highest recorded temporature, the dryest year, the wettest year, etc.
For those who are continuing to live 'life according to Bush' I have no pitty for your descendents who must suffer their selfishness. For those of us who are conserving I very much fear for our wellbeing as the greedy will soon turn to violence against us.

Will the axis shift? 24.Nov.2004 11:25

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Does anybody know where I can get some recent information about the effect of the melting of the artic and anartic on the earth's axis?

Melty melty... 05.Oct.2005 05:11

Roman Totale XVIII michael.smith@thenbs.com

I hope all of this climate change shit kicks in soon.
I'm expecting my house to be near a beach by the time I retire!!

Artic Ice Shelf Is Not Canadian 31.Dec.2006 08:04

Soet

The ice shelf is not Canadian and is not a land claim from where it came.

It's the Artic, not Canadian soil or ice.

Actic Ice Shelf 03.Jan.2007 08:45

Filly

Hey Soet
The ice shelf was located at Ellesmere Island, which is in the Canadian territory of Nunavut. It is the most northerly of the Canadian Arctic islands.