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Internet Stalkers

This list below is what I found in moving around the WEb seeking information from news services out side this country.
This is a short list of activity by Government Servers attempting peep inside my computer while surfing the internet over a period of two months.
- 20.Sep.2003 23:20

Metal Pancreas

What do you mean by "activity" here? Did these servers try to somehow scour your computer for information? This is coming from someone that uses computers pretty frequently, but doesn't know much about the security side of things. I know that these numbers are URLs in numerical form, but what do they mean in this context? I randomly entered one in and got the Washington Post website. I guess what I'm wondering is what you are implying and what your average anti-establishment joes can do to protect themselves from snoopers.

??? 21.Sep.2003 01:12


Also Counterpunch, Greg Palast's home page at The Observer, ThoughtPolice.org, and Google. The only one I found that was government related was some guy's home page who was a software engineer working on government projects in Maryland.

Hmmmmm? 21.Sep.2003 01:51

josef schneider

What you have here is a long list of IP (Internet Protocol) addresses. These are the literal addresses that computers use to send their information packets to each other across the net. We usually don't deal with these when we're using the net. Humans have a hard time remembering numbers (especially a string of four base-8 numbers, which are what these are), so we use the familiar alpha-numeric addresses that you see in your URL (Uniform Resource Locator) or web-address bar in your browser. We type in something like http://portland.indymedia.org and send it out to our Internet Service Provider's (ISP's) servers. They have DNS (Domain Name Server) computers that contain huge look-up tables. They look up the human-readable URL to find its corresponding numeric IP address, translate it for the other servers on the net, and pass it on in the right direction.

There are web sites that offer Reverse DNS, they'll do the translation in the other direction. Give them an IP address and they'll tell you what URL corresponds to it. You can find Reverse DNS servers using a search engine. So, I put a three of the IP addresses that you've posted here into the reverse DNS server at http://remote.12dt.com/rns/ they came back with the following URLs:


The first is an ISP in Westlake Village, California; the second is some guy named Jeremy Howard who lives in Melbourne, Australia; the third belongs to Akamai Technologies, a company that many other companies contract with to provide distributed downloading and caching services so that their own servers don't get overloaded. I didn't look up any more.

So? You need to provide more information.

What makes you think that anyone from these addresses is attempting to break into your computer? Did your firewall program log these IP addresses as attempting to intrude on your computer?

If you have reason to believe that they were trying to crack your computer, what makes you think that they are with the US government and not private crackers attempting compromise your box for their own reasons?

Keep in mind here that any computer on the internet for any length of time will experience multiple intrusion attempts every day. Crackers (people who try to intrude on other peoples' computers, not "hackers" who are merely people who are good programmers) or "Script Kiddies" (young folk who don't have real computer skills, but just use cracking scripts other people have written and posted to the net) are continually rattling the metaphorical doorknobs of random computers on the net to find one that would be easy to break into. If you have intrusion attempts, it is most likely from them.

It's not that I don't think that various arms of the government are spying on peoples' Internet use, I know they are. Attorney General John Ashcroft, among others, openly admits it. But they don't need to break into your computer to do it.

The FBI (or local Joint Terrorism Task Force) can get a warrant from a judge in a Foreign Intelligence Service Act (FISA) court with little to no probable cause (thanks to the USA PATRIOT Act), and the proceedings are secret. They then show up at your ISP to install a "Carnivore" device ? if there isn't already one there. Carnivore is a computer that will sit on a net connection and log all traffic on its huge hard drives. Periodically, agents drop by to replace the hard drive with new ones, and take the full ones back to the office to mine for data. Again, thanks to the PATRIOT Act, it is illegal for your ISP to even tell you that you are the subject of an investigation.

Without more information I don't know what to think about your list of IP addresses. But if you want more information about protecting your privacy on the internet in general, or FISA, the PATRIOT Act, or Carnivore in particular. I the web sites of the Electronic Privacy Information Center (EPIC) or the Electronic Frontier Foundation are excellent places to start.

Cookies? 21.Sep.2003 08:36


I'm no expert but it might be that you need to clear out your cookes. The variety and types of servers would lead me to believe that you have visited a number of those sites and did not have your browsers security setting raise to a level that would deny most cookies. Also, because of lax internet security on your part (no offense intended, most people are oblivious as to how to keep unwanted files downloaded to their harddrive) you almost certainly have contracted a number of data miners and reg key suppliments that are feeding information to servers that collect them on behalf of advertising companies and other "research" groups.

 http://www.guidscope.com - software that will block most cookies and banner ads
Ad-aware - a program designed to look for and destroy data miners and reg key suppliments. Available through tucows and download.com.

Also, you might want to surf some of the underground sites (There's no fucking way I'm listing any here in public- do some detailed looking through sites that may not want to be found) and try to get ahold of a good IP blocker and maybe even a free (or figure out how to fanagle a free) proxy.

Oh, and if you've ever logged on to any government website then, yes, the government does have a covert spy bug on your hard drive that may or may not be detectable.

Information is the gold of the future.


duh 21.Sep.2003 09:18


Search results for: -- --

AT&T WorldNet Services ATT (NET-12-0-0-0-1) -
THE WASHINGTON POST THE-WASH26-146 (NET-12-129-146-0-1) -

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2003-09-20 19:15
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.


Oh noes, the gubment is posing as the washington post!

nice 21.Sep.2003 13:42


"Oh, and if you've ever logged on to any government website then, yes, the government does have a covert spy bug on your hard drive that may or may not be detectable"


This is comedy gold.