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Dick Cheney: Complete Liar or Too Stupid to be Vice-President?

How stupid does Cheney think we are? Apparently, pretty stupid. And maybe we are. Under any normal circumstances (not being ruled by a Republican one-party state), he should have been impeached -- and perhaps imprisoned -- a long time ago.
"Reconstituted nuclear weapons. You misspoke." "Yeah. I did misspeak."
BUZZFLASH REPORT Sunday September 14, 2003 at 11:38:16 PM

Either Cheney is a Complete Liar or is Too Stupid to be Vice-President Based on His September 14th "Meet the Press" Interview

September 15, 2003


How stupid does Cheney think we are? Apparently, pretty stupid. And maybe we are. Under any normal circumstances (not being ruled by a Republican one-party state), he should have been impeached -- and perhaps imprisoned -- a long time ago.

Here are Honest-to-God (rush) excerpts from the transcript of Dick Cheney on "Meet the Press," forwarded to us by a BuzzFlash reader:

MR. RUSSERT: The Washington Post asked the American people about Saddam Hussein, and this is what they said: 69 percent said he was involved in the September 11 attacks. Are you surprised by that?

VICE PRES. CHENEY: No. I think it's not surprising that people make that connection.

MR. RUSSERT: But is there a connection?

VICE PRES. CHENEY: We don't know.

MR. RUSSERT: Vanity Fair magazine reports that about 140 Saudis were allowed to leave the United States the day after the 11th, allowed to leave our airspace and were never investigated by the FBI and that departure was approved by high-level administration figures. Do you know anything about that?


MR. RUSSERT: Joe Lieberman, the senator from Connecticut, running for president, had this to say: "...what President Bush gave the American people on Sunday night was a price tag"—$87 billion—"not a plan. And we in Congress must demand a plan."

What is our plan for Iraq? How long will the 140,000 American soldiers be there? How many international troops will join them? And how much is this going to cost?

VICE PRES. CHENEY: Well, some of those questions are unknowable at present, Tim. With respect to the financing, the $87 billion we've asked for is—about 3/4 of that is to support our military and security operations. About 1/4 of it will go specifically to helping make the investments Bremer believes we need to make in order to get the Iraqis back and functioning on their own capability.

So how long will it take? I don't know.

MR. RUSSERT: In terms of costs, Mr. Vice President, there are suggestions again—it was a misjudgment by the administration or even misleading. "Lawrence Lindsey, head of the White House's National Economic Council, projected the 'upper bound' of war costs at $100 billion to $200 billion."

We've already spent $160 billion after this $87 billion is spent. The Pentagon predicted $50 billion: "The administration's top budget official [Mitch Daniels] estimated that the cost of a war with Iraq could be in the range of $50 billion to $60 billion...he said...that earlier estimates of $100 billion to $200 billion in Iraq war costs by Lawrence Lindsey, Mr. Bush's former chief economic adviser, were too high."

And Paul Wolfowitz, the deputy secretary of Defense, went before Congress and said this: "We're dealing with a country that can really finance its own reconstruction, and relatively soon. The oil revenues of that country could bring between $50 and $100 billion over the course of the next two or three years." It looked like the administration has truly misjudged the cost of this operation.

VICE PRES. CHENEY: No, I didn't see a one-point estimate there that you could say that this is the administration's estimate. We didn't know.

VICE PRES. CHENEY: No, I didn't see a one-point estimate there that you could say that this is the administration's estimate. We didn't know. And if you ask Secretary Rumsfeld, for example—I can remember from his briefings, he said repeatedly he didn't know. And when you and I talked about it, I couldn't put a dollar figure on it.

MR. RUSSERT: But Daniels did say $50 billion.

VICE PRES. CHENEY: Well, that might have been, but I don't know what his basis was for making that judgment.

There are funds frozen, Iraqi assets in various places in...

MR. RUSSERT: How much is all that?

VICE PRES. CHENEY: I don't have a final dollar figure. We don't know who will...

MR. RUSSERT: Why is there no bidding?

VICE PRES. CHENEY: I have no idea. ..... I don't know any of the details of the contract because I deliberately stayed away from any information on that, but Halliburton is a fine company.

MR. RUSSERT: Reconstituted nuclear weapons. You misspoke.

VICE PRES. CHENEY: Yeah. I did misspeak.

MR. RUSSERT: Now, Ambassador Joe Wilson, a year before that, was sent over by the CIA because you raised the question about uranium from Africa. He says he came back from Niger and said that, in fact, he could not find any documentation that, in fact, Niger had sent uranium to Iraq or engaged in that activity and reported it back to the proper channels. Were you briefed on his findings in February, March of 2002?

VICE PRES. CHENEY: No. I don't know Joe Wilson. ..... One of the questions I asked at that particular time about this, I said, "What do we know about this?" They take the question. He came back within a day or two and said, "This is all we know. There's a lot we don't know," end of statement. And Joe Wilson—I don't know who sent Joe Wilson. He never submitted a report that I ever saw when he came back.

And we have to just add just one more illustrative claim of Mr. Cheney:

Same on biological weapons—we believe he'd developed the capacity to go mobile with his BW production capability because, again, in reaction to what we had done to him in '91. We had intelligence reporting before the war that there were at least seven of these mobile labs that he had gone out and acquired. We've, since the war, found two of them. They're in our possession today, mobile biological facilities that can be used to produce anthrax or smallpox or whatever else you wanted to use during the course of developing the capacity for an attack.

That Cheney would, once again, make the now totally disproven and discredited claim that U.S. forces seized mobile biological weapons vans is so fraudulent and brazenly dishonest, it's almost laughable. It's the kind of "in your face" repeated lie that you only dare to utter when you know that you can run over anyone in your way.

With an independent investigation, Cheney testifying under oath, and the release of his papers, Dick would be out of office faster than you can say "Chickenhawk Dick."

(For "Meet the Press" transcript, see:  http://www.msnbc.com/news/966470.asp )


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cheney must be executed 15.Sep.2003 08:12

cheney must be executed

cheney must be executed

he's not stupid 15.Sep.2003 09:14


Never underestimate your opponent.
the man is many things --- but he is not stupid
stupid would be easier to handle.
the man is scary.

Cheney: We will find Iraq's WMD 15.Sep.2003 12:19


First Published 2003-09-15, Last Updated 2003-09-15 11:26:38

Cheney: We will find Iraq's WMD

US Vice President says there is growing evidence of relationship between Iraq and al-Qaeda during past decade.

WASHINGTON - US Vice President Dick Cheney said Sunday that he has "no doubt" that ousted Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein was engaged in developing weapons of mass destruction and that more evidence of the programs will be found.

"If you go back and look at what we've found to date there's no doubt in my mind that Saddam Hussein had these capabilities," Cheney said in an interview with NBC television's Meet the Press.

"This wasn't an idea cooked up overnight by a handful of people either in the administration or in the CIA," he said in a reference to allegations that the Bush administration may have overstated the evidence to justify the case for war in Iraq.

"The whole notion that somehow there's nothing to the notion that Saddam Hussein had (weapons of mass destruction) or developed WMD strikes me as fallacious, it's not valid," Cheney said.

"On chemical weapons my guess is it's buried inside his civilian infrastructure, that's not an unusual place to put it."

Cheney said a team led by David Kay, a former UN arms inspector currently in Iraq hunting for evidence of Saddam's weapons programs, would find proof of Iraqi efforts to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons.

"In the final analysis we will find that the Iraqis did have a robust program.

"I'm not willing at all at this point to buy the proposition that somehow Saddam Hussein was innocent and he had no WMD and some guy out at the CIA, because I called him, cooked up a report saying he did.

"That's crazy. That makes no sense. It bears no resemblance to reality."

Cheney also said there was growing evidence of a "relationship between Iraq and al-Qaeda" during the past decade.

Asked, however, if there was a direct connection between Saddam's regime and the September 11 attacks on New York City and Washington, Cheney replied: "We don't know."

"We learn more and more that there was a relationship between Iraq and al-Qaeda that stretched back through most of the decade of the '90s," he said.

"That it involved training, for example, on biological weapons and chemical weapons, that al-Qaeda sent personnel to Baghdad to get trained on the systems. It involved the Iraqis providing bomb-making expertise and advice to the al-Qaeda organization."

Cheney was also asked about Saudi cooperation in the "war on terror" and said it had improved.

"We have had, especially since the attacks of Riyadh in May of this year, from the Saudi government great support and cooperation in going after terrorists, especially al-Qaeda," he said.

"I think the Saudis came to realize, as a result of the attacks of last May, that they were as much of a target as we are ... that there have been private individuals in Saudi Arabia that provided significant financial support and assistance, that there are facilitators and operators working inside Saudi Arabia to support the al-Qaeda network."

We will find that the Iraqis did have a robust program
We will find that the Iraqis did have a robust program

whatever you say dick. suuuurrre... 15.Sep.2003 13:16

this thing here

compare and contrast what that man who dares to stand near an american flag says on "meet the press to lie to them", and the story below.

Report on Iraq WMD shelved as no evidence found by US-UK team
London, Sunday, September 14, 2003

After failing to get any evidence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, the US and Britain have decided to delay indefinitely the publication of a full report on the controversial issue, media reported today.

Efforts by the Iraq Survey Group, an Anglo-American team of 1,400 scientists, military and intelligence experts, to scour Iraq for the past four months to uncover evidence of chemical or biological weapons have so far ended in failure, 'The Sunday Times' claimed in its report.

It had been expected that a progress report would be published tomorrow but MPs on the British Parliament's security and intelligence committee have been told that even this has been delayed and no new date set.

British defence intelligence sources have confirmed that the final report, which is to be submitted by David Kay, the survey group's leader, to George Tenet, head of the CIA, had been delayed and may not necessarily even be published, the paper said.

In July, Kay suggested on US television that he had seen enough evidence to convince himself that ousted Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein had had a programme to produce weapons of mass destruction.

He expected to find "strong" evidence of missile delivery systems and "probably" evidence of biological weapons.

But last week British officials said they believed Kay had been "kite-flying" and that no hard evidence had been uncovered.

The hunt for weapons is seen in London and Washington as a vital step in convincing an increasingly sceptical public that the war was justified.