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Portland Protest in Washington Post and NY Times

Even-handed account of protests in Washington Post and New York Times.. see link..........
also reuters top news 21.Aug.2003 15:17


Same article is being featured on the Reuters website in their "top news" section. Good to see some coverage of today's events! The quote they have from shrub is hillarious!

reuters link 21.Aug.2003 15:25

tax payer

Let's see, 500 donors (assuming his whole audience was donors) @ $2000 a person equals $1,000,000. That's more than enough to reimburse the city for security and still walk away with a profit. But I guess anything less stiffing the taxpayers with as much as possible isn't good enough for Bush. Profit over people as they say.

to me 21.Aug.2003 15:43


So tell me...what DID shurb say this time?

So far so good... 21.Aug.2003 15:43

Portland Ponderer

Well, that article sounds as fairly written as any for a major media outlet. Let's hope no idiot anarchists give the media reason to give the protests a verbal black eye.

Read the last line of the article 21.Aug.2003 15:50


It says that Bush will "shave a fundraiser" in Seattle tomorrow. Shave the donors!

I love typos.

shrub's statement 21.Aug.2003 15:55


This is what Reuters reported:

Bush told his audience of 500 that their financial contributions reflected "the depth of support here in Oregon" and urged backers to energize grass-roots support.

I guess he missed the depth of protesters outside....and grass roots support from a bunch of $2000 a plate paying corporate cronies...what do they know about grass roots....they'll have to ask their gardeners...

here[s the reuters article 21.Aug.2003 15:58


gotta be a member to get the times one.

Protesters Greet Bush in Northwest
Thu August 21, 2003 04:41 PM ET

By Randall Mikkelsen
PORTLAND, Ore. (Reuters) - About 2,000 protesters, some shouting "shame on Bush," met President Bush in the Pacific Northwest on Thursday as he sought to promote his environmental agenda and raise campaign money.

Outside a University of Portland arena where Bush spoke at a $1 million fundraiser for his re-election campaign, about 2,000 demonstrators waved signs that denounced the president's environmental and economic policies and the U.S. occupation of Iraq.

Riot police kept the crowds apart from the president and guarded intersections in the residential neighborhood Bush's motorcade passed.

At one neighborhood intersection dozens of protesters greeted the motorcade with their fingers raised in an obscene gesture, and a lawn sign along the way read, "This tree is anti-Bush."

Oregon's unemployment rate at 8.1 percent was the highest of any state in July but Bush's political team regards the state as competitive in the 2004 election.

Bush told his audience of 500 that their financial contributions reflected "the depth of support here in Oregon" and urged backers to energize grass-roots support.

In Portland last year, anti-war protesters clashed with police near Bush's hotel, in what was then one of the biggest demonstrations against his administration. Thursday's protests appeared non-violent.

Bush's fundraiser came before two days of events aimed at wooing the region's environmentally sensitive voters by highlighting the president's policies for preventing forest fires and protecting salmon habitat.

Later on Thursday Bush was to visit Oregon's Deschutes National Forest to promote what he told the fund-raising audience would be "a common sense policy," aimed at making it easier to thin trees and prevent the summer wildfires that often strike the western United States.

But two wildfires now raging in the area forced Bush to change his plans.

He had planned a walking tour of the area, but will now take a helicopter tour of forest areas affected by the fires.

Also, a key local activist, Toni Foster, president of a non-profit conservation group known as Friends of the Metolius, canceled plans to meet Bush so she could protect her home from the blazes, White House officials said.

Bush's forest plan would ease requirements for removing small underbrush and trees on 20 million acres of forest susceptible to wildfires.

Major blazes swept parts of Colorado, Arizona, Montana, Idaho, California, Oregon and Washington this summer, burning about 2.4 million acres.

The legislation passed the House of Representatives in May and the Senate is expected to take it up in the fall.

Opponents, including Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Joseph Lieberman, argue Bush's "Healthy Forest Initiative" will erode environmental checks and allow timber companies easier access to forests.

"Healthy Forests should be called the No Tree Left Behind plan," Lieberman said in a statement. "If the logging industry cut down a thousand trees in the forest, George Bush would deny they made a sound."

In Washington on Friday, Bush will visit Ice Harbor Lock and Dam on Lake Sacajawea and the Snake River to tout how the endangered Pacific salmon population is rebounding even as the dam's power plant continues to generate power for the area.

Activists, however, say the change in wild fish stocks is small and has little to do with the implementation of policies to help the salmon get around the dam on their spawning migrations up and down the Snake River.

Bush will also shave a fundraiser in Seattle on Friday.


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that better be some tasty food 21.Aug.2003 16:03


who are these people who pay $2000 a plate for dinner and dubya? is a list made available of donors? i'd to know their names so that i could avoid them. and their businesses. and their friends' businesses...

Boycott the Contributors 21.Aug.2003 17:04


The comment on boycotting the donors was a significant one. We need to find out who these people are so we can make the kind of protest they understand. We need to boycott their businesses.

MEDIA 21.Aug.2003 17:05

Alex Zeisberg guitarfreak2910@aol.com

I don't understand why we, but maybe just you, put so much attention into making the media go away when they show up at a protest but when they write a story your like oh cool lets post it. Like if everyone at the protest were nice to the people that work in the cooperate media then don't you think they would be more serious and help us. Like you make friends with them and they start to be nice and then will defend us in the battle against wrongful directors/editers. Especially if its a live feed because the editors are close by or on the scene. Like I did an interview with the Oregonian and I was really nice to them and when I told them about me being on I-5 they just wrote something in the lines of how I was brave to be 15 and go on I-5.
Lets try it atleast a few times. Be as nice to them as you can.

Just a thought I think you people should think about!!


Booga - Finding out WHO gave to Bush 21.Aug.2003 19:15


Booga, you said you would like to know who these donors are.

Easy.........at some point (probably at the end of the 3rd qtr fundraising period - oct 15th or so?)., you should be able to go to FEC.GOV and look up who donated what. You can search by a person's name......a geographical area......by candidate ..... by PAC...

We should ALL make use of the FEC site.

Problem is.....and this needs to be followed up on....... ALL of Howard Dean's donors' info was all uploaded and viewable as of the 2nd week of July (for the end of the 2nd qtr). But, interestingly enough, A LOT of republican candidates' stuff gets an error message "not uploaded to site yet" and refers you to general reports of dollar totals on another site. THEREBY CLOAKING REPUKE donors.

Even the friggin FEC is corrupt.

But like for 2000, there was a UofP donor who gave to Bush/Cheney......TWICE.....using different surnames. Which is illegal. (she didn't go over the legal amount though)

I am sure a BIG investigation could be accomplished on the FEC showing LOTS of republican problems with reporting donations.

Also, it is VERY interesting. You can search by PACs. So I did an exhaustive search of all monies since 1996 that the INTEL PAC had given. REPUKE donor all the way UNLESS there is an Intel campus in a state.......and that state has dem incumbent running......Intel keeps lining their pockets. But if a dem incumbent is not running.......Intel will always give to the new repuke - 100% of the time.

There is also opensecrets.com (or is it .org?)......there's a lot of donor info and graphs.

AND to see what industry has bought your rep or senator, you can always go to the new MIT site......called Open Government Information Awareness

Their Mission:

To empower citizens by providing a single, comprehensive, easy-to-use repository of information on individuals, organizations, and corporations related to the government of the United States of America.

To allow citizens to submit intelligence about government-related issues, while maintaining their anonymity. To allow members of the government a chance to participate in the process.


Start Boycotts Here 21.Aug.2003 22:15


Excellent Idea to find out who are the donors and to boycott their businesses. Even a small percentage of
a drop in business here in Portland's economy can do real damage to them.

Remember the whole Nike thing was started by eight people who decided to leaflet and picket Nike right here in Portland. A year later, Nike stock was going down and sales tanked worldwide.

Boycotts could be effective. Get them where it hurts most, as they love money more than anything else.

Donor information should be a matter of public record. I suspect City Liquidators and McCormick restaurants would be good places to start. Go for It!

scary 22.Aug.2003 00:35

Alex Zeisberg guitarfreak2910@aol.com

This seems like a good idea to boycott businesses but watch out. They might be small 'lower class' people and just really want to see Bush. I think come up with different ideas such as talk with them and get indy media to do a story about his campaign and go to the people and ask them to say there sorry and see if you could change there minds and if then they are still dicks then ATTACKKKKKKKKK!!! But like I wanted to go to that and here what he had to say even though i think he is a son of a bush! So if anyone wants more ideas from me feel free to e-mail me.

ponder this? 22.Aug.2003 08:01

blah of wa

Ponderer? I seriously doubt that you can think at all-let alone ponder. The protest was nothing but a blip. It's gone. Over. Too bad the rest of the crowd were not as courageous and radicalized as the anarchists. If there had been a riot-the only black eye would have been given to the president. If there were a riot wherever he appeared it would create attention...and give hope to people around the country and the world that Bush is unacceptable. Imagine. And shut the fuck up about anarchists. I'm sick to death of those like yourself

Good place to track donors 22.Aug.2003 09:49


I love the Portland indymedia site. It's so easy to read -- very user friendly.

Here's a good site for tracking donors to Bush. You can track by state.


This is a new site developed by Public Citizen.

Yes, blah, yes 22.Aug.2003 10:25


I have been to almost every rally/action in pdx in the past four years and have never wittnessed anarchists being violent. I have actually TALKED with anarchists (not just yelled at them on imc) and they are definately not stupid. Maybe if more people got off the fence and stood up for their beliefs like the anarchists I have talked to, the world would be a better place. Or maybe not. Either way ,complaining about who's the better activist is getting old.

Boycotting 22.Aug.2003 10:35



Thanks for the information, very helpful!