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Die In, need planning, volunteers etc THIS SUNDAY AT POWELLS 5pm

Middle America does not care about slain Iraqis, but they do claim to care about their own friends and family dying! Let's force them to see what Bush is doing to them.
Hundreds of folks needed to protest G. W. Bush's visit to Portland. We are protesting the war in Iraq in general, but also Bush's complete abandonment of the troops, the people or the U. S. A. and the world.

Middle America has proven to us that they just do not care about dead Iraqis, violated constitutions and a chief executive with a single digit IQ, but they do care (or at least think they care) about dead US troops. Fine, we can work with that.

We will dress in green clothing (camo is better) and duct tape the names of slain U.S. Soldiers to our chests, and stage a die-in at Bush's appearance. The news will show this graphic reminder to middle America that Bush is not just killing foreign people they will never meet, he is also killing their next door neighbors, friends and relatives. The troop names will be downloaded from the news wire the day of the protest. We estimate that around 280 troops will be dead in Iraq by the time Bush gets here, but it could be more and we may need many more bodies. Also, keep in mind that hundreds more troops are being crippled in Iraq as well.

True, our nation's losses are eclipsed by Iraq's, but we are trying to erode Bush's approval rating, and the people that approve of Bush simply do not care about Iraq's dead/crippled/violated citizens. They (claim to) care about ours though.

We need as many people (or manaquins, stuffed jumpsuits, whatever), we need as many green clothes (or white t-shirts that can be dyed olive green) and oreganizers. People from other activist organizations are encouraged to attend as well, we may be able to combine our die in with your march and wind up with twice as many people for both.

Military veterans (such as myself) are highly encouraged to attend! Even if you are not a regular activist, even if you are not even the protest type, we still need you!
which Powells? 14.Aug.2003 13:50


Which Powells and where?

support the troops? NO! 14.Aug.2003 16:17


instead of taping the names of us soldiers to our chests, why not the names of iraqi citizens who have been slaughtered in the name of 'foreign policy' and ignored in place of american troops? soldiers who have died due to the occupation are a small fraction compared to the masses of people who died and will continue to die until all forces pull out of the middle east.

Reply 14.Aug.2003 18:34

Bush Must Be Stopped

PP- Powell's main store, Burnside and 10th (sorry for the confusion).

Concrete- The reason we are using soldier's names and not Iraqi names is because Middle America does not care about Iraqi names. Sure, it's wrong of them and messed up, but which would you rather do; focus on the USA's lesser sacrifice, creating an uproar from Bush's core supporters and eventually make sure he does not get re-elected, thus saving potentially hundreds of thousands of lives, or be a morally correct five-second news blip that will be ignored by the people we are trying to reach, thus ensuring another four years of warfare?

Focus on the Iraqis and we will be morally right, feel good about ourselves, give each other high-fives after the protest, go home and watch Bush's approval rating shoot up another dozen points. And in a year and a half, he will get re-elected. Bush supporters do not care about Iraqis, we can complain all we want, post all the banners we want and scream and yell our heads off about dead Iraqis, and nobody that voted for Bush will bat an eyelid.

The alternative is to try to actually succeed. Erode Bush's core support- the trailer parks of America. Get the people that voted for this psycho to turn against him and we stand a chance. The world stands a chance.

No matter how horrible things are for Iraqis, Middle America does not care about them, but they do claim to care about U.S. soldiers. This die-in will call their bluff: they will either have to choose the troops (including whichever friends and family members they have in the military), or they will have to choose Bush.

We would like to have some people portraying dead Iraqis too, but we absolutely need people portraying dead U.S. troops or this will be a waste of effort. CNN will not give more than a few seconds of airtime, and Middle America will completely ignore the dead Iraqis just like they have been doing.

Who says we don't care? 16.Aug.2003 09:53

Voice of Middle Earth

In fact, we DO care about the people of Iraq. One of the reasons you may feel so hopeless about the world right now is that you believe the corporate media's lies about what we all really think and feel and believe. You feel like you're the only one who sees how wrong this all is, and that "middle america" is out there gnashing their teeth at you for being against this war. Not so. Some people are blind couch potatoes, but the vast majority of us DO see this.

I'm down with the die in idea, and I'll be there. But let's tape the names of US soldiers and Iraqi people to the corpses. We ARE middle america, middle earth. And we do see it. And we do care. Little by little, tactic by tactic, we will move this mountain off our backs.