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Community Action Forum on post- 9/11 civil liberties TONITE!

Community Action Forum
Monday, June 30 @ 7:00 PM

First Unitarian Church
1011 SW 12th Avenue

In conjunction with an alliance of other organizations, the Portland Bill of Rights Defense Committee will be holding a public forum on post-9/11 civil liberties. Learn how the USA PATRIOT Act changes legal rights, hear testimony on how this Act (and other rules and policies) is affecting the life in America, learn what others are doing across the country, become informed on what you can do, and take action.
Participants in the panel discussion to include: Retired FBI Special Agent Charles Mathews III; David Fidanque of the ACLU of Oregon; Shahriar Ahmed, president of the Bilal Mosque Association; Multnomah County Sheriff Bernie Giusto; and Hope Marston, co-organizer of the Lane County Bill of Rights Defense Committee. Panel discussion to be followed by a question period, both panelist-to-panelist and from the audience. Both segments will be mdoerated courtesy of the League of Women Voters. Following the panel and questions, there will be a meet-and-greet reception, with tables and activites from the sponsoring organizations. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><> Weekly Open Meeting Thursdays @ 7:00 PM Red & Black Cafe SE 22nd and Division As part of our increased outreach campaign, we will now be hosting open meetings every Thursday evening. All are welcome to attend for questions, answers, discussion, and suggestions.

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Why so many cops at a "community action" forum? 30.Jun.2003 15:17

I was thinking about going, but...

Former head of the FBI, and the Sheriff??


I know folks think it's important to have balance, but there really is no such thing. Not in the media, not in government, and not in "community action forums".

I, for one, will not be attending this thing. I don't need to hear from these folks about why they think they need to strip away all of our civil liberties.

I do hope that the other panelists take them to task. Although I have little faith in the ACLU on this stuff. The last time I heard an ACLU person speak on the Patriot Act, they were incredibly dissapointing. I think folks from the NLG have a much better analysis on this stuff.

Maybe this is part of the increasing comraderie between the cops and activists who receive awards from them.

The FBI in dillusional or in denial! 01.Jul.2003 07:58


I attended this forum last night and was shocked at what I heard.

There was a (1 month retired) 33 year vet of the Portland FBI who laughed at the question from one of the audience members about FBI surveillance of local activist groups and he laughingly said "We don't care about those people, we just don't care!"

I shouted out, "Then why do you inflitrate our groups and take pictures of everyone" and several other people chimed in with "Yeah, why is that true if you don't care about our groups!"
Of course he sat down and refused to respond.

The Multnomah county sheriff then sidestepped the reality of another question by claiming that the Sheriff's office does not share information with the FBI that is not "criminally related" information. But of course he failed to mention that in order to be considered "criminally related information", all one would have to do is to participate in civil disobediance to be put in a category that allows the sheriff office to share information with the FBI.

Bottom line, they talked to us like we are stupid and like we don't know that our groups have been infiltrated.
It pissed me off big time!

july 1 meeting opposing UPA 02.Jul.2003 08:00

michael slocum m-and-mslocum

if people are concerned about the lack of rights and liberties, fearful of government invovlment in there lives, THEN DO SOMETHING!!! contact your local Bill of Rights Defense Group and help them by sending a message to local, state and THE govenment that fighting terror or a war should in no way mean that WE THE PEOPLE should give up
michael slocum
gaston. oregon