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To Mike (The Troll)

Dear Mike:
I believed in Vietnam once, and I hated Hanoi Jane. Back then they pulled draft numbers according to the date of your birthday. It was like playing the lottery except you couldn't win, you could only lose. My number came up 258 so I didn't have to go. But I would have gone because my old man had fought the Japs in the Pacific Theater and he would have expected it of me. He said it was the right thing to do.

During that time they indoctrinated us in the schools and taught us to fear the communists by showing us propaganda films. We were taught that the world was made to two parts: one communist and the other free. In order to protect our freedom we had to fight and destroy the communists because they were evil. Well guess what? Over there the communists were saying the same thing about us.

Governments, including our own, lie.

Like animal life, governments evolve through natural selection towards greater power. Governments become master rather than servant: Totalitarian government controls by force. Democratic government controls thought. People think they are free but the government controls the information they are getting. The most effective way of doing this is to play on our emotions, particularly hate and fear.

Much of this is done through pictures. Pictures work well because we believe the things we see with our own eyes. But pictures can be composed and framed to produce a calculated effect. They seem to tell a story without words and the picture hits us at a gut level and stays in our mind.

The easiest way to control a democratic society is through fear of some real or invented enemy. People may be controlled much like sheep. In times of danger sheep will herd behind the ram for protection. This is a very old trick and has been used many times throughout history. The funny thing is that it always works because nobody ever figures it out until years later.

Turn off the TV and the radio for a couple of years. Read some history. Consider other points of view. Ask yourself how you would feel if you were an Iraqis or a Vietnamese. Look at the world not as an American, but as a human being.
Truer words................. 29.Apr.2003 10:26



T 29.Apr.2003 10:27



Don't Feed The Trolls 29.Apr.2003 11:38

GRINGO STARS gringo_stars@attbi.com

I know it's tempting to respond to the trolls' stupid comments, but next time you want to stoke a troll's ego by responding - DON'T. The attention is why they come here to Indy. Starve them out of attention and they will leave. I guess they don't get enough attention offline, so they come online to abuse the "dirty hippies" or whatever anachronistic stereotype they believe in. Ignore the trolls - it's precisely what they deserve.

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anachronistic stereotype 29.Apr.2003 12:21

Black flag

Hey Gringo, still trying to fool these stiffs by using these terms? Return your diploma to Les Schwab forthwith!

Mike Fails to Justify Treasonous Rant 29.Apr.2003 12:26

Patriot Act

From:  http://portland.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=62934&group=webcast

Some mental midget calling itself 'Mike (King of all Trolls)' states, "No International law should ever supercede a US law, sorry if you don’t agree but I’ve lived in other nations."

From Article. VI. of the US Constitution:

"This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding."

Now, I could understand that someone as poorly informed and twisted as Mike may be unaware of this fundamental guiding and binding principle of US law. However, if s/he is aware and does understand this crystal clear definition, then his/her statement might just qualify him/her as 'THE KING/QUEEN OF ALL TRAITORS'.

Since Mike seems open to living in other 'nations', perhaps he/she could still redeem themselves by teaming up with the past/present directors of the CIA & FBI, Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein, all the members of the Project for a New Amerikkkan Bush Administration Century (heil!), and move to Afghanistan or Iraq to provide SOME legal justification for the US attacks on those countries.

Mike 29.Apr.2003 12:49


While it is fun to point out your obvious tunnel vision when it comes to your "education", the area in which you so convincingly fail is humanity. You fail as a human being and may you be judged accordingly. Call me a "lefty panty liner" you chauvanistic ignoramous. It only proves my point. Humanity shouldn't be a matter of partisan debate, fool.

So, Mike the King of All Traitors 29.Apr.2003 13:27

Patriot Act

If you reject the US Constitution, which outlines the very
basis of US law, what is your basis for that sovereignty?
Laws are particularly important when things get difficult. If guiding principles (laws) were generally accepted in all
circumstances, they wouldn't be necessary. They are in
place to protect the rest of us from ignorant, traitorous
cowards, such as yourself, when things get rough.

I am certainly not afraid of international law reaching
down here to Portland and snatching me, since I am not
aware of being in violation of any international law.
You, on the other hand, have demonstrated your contempt
for the US constitution, and have conspired to propogate
and promote the policies of war criminals.

It is YOU that should be afraid, my fascist collaborator friend. We will go easy on you, if you turn yourself in
immediately. You are a disgrace to your country, and to
the conservatives that you claim to represent.

Mike- The Smell of Failure 29.Apr.2003 14:34

Patriot Act

Mike says, "No International law should ever supercede a US

The US Constitution says, "...all Treaties made, or which
shall be made, under the Authority of the United States,
shall be the supreme Law of the Land..."

Mike responds, "The King (of all traitors) NEVER rejects the

Mike has proven him/herself to be not only a traitor, but
a hopeless dullard; clearly better suited to the
"freerepublic" site, lacking the reasoning skills to debate
his/her weak position here. 'Is our children learning?'
Mike clearly shows the answer to be a definitive NO. It
is truly a wonder that Mike can muster enough brain power
to wipe his/her own ass.

Then again, what stinks?

Critiscm shields up! 29.Apr.2003 15:04


Critiscm shields up!
Critiscm shields up!

Big Ts with no space in between, /0I0\ 29.Apr.2003 19:20


Trolling is an art. whether or not people like or hate it is not the point. The reason to troll is to make people think.

Is that Jody B. ? 29.Apr.2003 19:26